The Nineteenth Byte

@SnivyDroid I didn't know either, but I still somehow made SOGL. Though I wouldn't say it's interpreted nicely (it's written horribly, actually), but it works :p

Zacharý

@SnivyDroid look at BrainFlak

Riker

10:11 PM

you must do "a".repeat(10)

why the heck

SnivyDroid

I wrote a little bit of a

Wait

It cut off rip

DJMcMayhem

@Riker false

SnivyDroid

I wrote a little bit of an ALPHA interpreter to get prints and strings working

DJMcMayhem

@Zacharý Ruby

Riker

@DJMcMayhem oh, what? huh

SnivyDroid

10:12 PM

It kept duplicating K when parsing a string

DJMcMayhem

But it's been done in a ton of different languages too

SnivyDroid

I was using bools to tell the program what it was parsing

It was just ugly

Riker

can I take input as a string

DJMcMayhem

(Notably C and Haskell)

Zacharý

@SnivyDroid that's the reason MY is designed to be entirely command based...I don't know how to parts

dzaima

10:13 PM

Canvas cant compete in DJs cmc because it doesn't have quoted strings yet :/

Riker

nvm

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Sure (mostly cause V can't differentiate)

SnivyDroid

I drew up a parse tree but I realized that there were so many IF cases I dont know where to start

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Would this be good for main?

Riker

feels like a dupe imo

SnivyDroid

10:14 PM

First I thought I just needed to tell the program to check between 3 states

No

I needed 10

._.

dzaima

@SnivyDroid I have no idea what a parse tree is, so you're further than me :p

Riker

oh, maybe not

all I can find is output the same length as code, 2x length, etc.

SnivyDroid

Well its more of an interpret tree

Full of IF statements

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Yeah, this is slightly harder

Riker

sandbox it for a bit (24 hours) for dupes

but yeah then go fo rit

you can do the socratic badge

SnivyDroid

10:15 PM

Like "Is this program in a string state"

Riker

i know it

:D

SnivyDroid

Just bleh

DJMcMayhem

Lol

It's taken long enough

I think I just need 3 more

Riker

?

Zacharý

Yeah, you're much further in knowledge of parsing then I am, why are you wanting to make an esoteric language with that knowledge? Just have together a solution

SnivyDroid

10:16 PM

Well I thought what I could do is just

Check for letters and states

DJMcMayhem

Title: Output a program whose output is N times the length of the code

That's not confusing at all

SnivyDroid

and add a string for that command

Zacharý

@SnivyDroid ah, you're having a bunch of States and using those to interpret

SnivyDroid

But that is not viable

The states I was thinkning I needed to set up was variable, string, or command

flawr

@Riker nope, enver heard of either

Riker

10:18 PM

figured, both are american iirc

SnivyDroid

But I actually needed variable name, variable value. string, integer, command, basic arguements, advanced arguements, andcode blocks

Riker

pretty good shows, black mirror is newish and tz is from like the 1960s

Zacharý

I think I know how you can do it: transpilation.

SnivyDroid

Also what are .rb files

Zacharý

Ruby

SnivyDroid

10:18 PM

oh

Zacharý

Brain Flak is in Ruby, whoever said it was Python was wrong.

SnivyDroid

welp I gtg

bye

Heeby Jeeby Man

I mean I did make an inplementation in python, but it's really bad

Zacharý

@SnivyDroid ABCDDCBA => A(B(C(D()))), and then check for a few states.

@HeebyJeebyMan *implementation

DJMcMayhem

For a while, I thought @SnivyDroid was @HeebyJeebyMan Because of the strange name and Avatar lol

4

Zacharý

10:21 PM

That'd be a bit ... Conn-sniv-ing.

betseg

@flawr @Riker reddit.com/r/tiltshift new fav sub (saw it on trending subs)

Riker

@betseg wow

that's insanely cool

New Main Posts

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Q: Get Two from One

As we saw in this question complex logical statements can be expressed in terms of the simple connectives of generalized Minesweeper. However Generalized minesweeper still has redundancies. In order to avoid these redundancies we define a new game called "Generalized-1 Minesweeper". Generalize...

Dennis

@Poke @Riker The deadline was extended by a week.

Riker

ah missed that

Pavel

10:44 PM

So, it closes tommorow.

Esolanging Fruit

@Christopher What about [,]?

Anonymous

I guess xnor's answer is just going to win KCS by default. Maybe next year we should consider potential nominations before using categories.

Heeby Jeeby Man

KCS?

Dennis

Kansas City Shuffle

Heeby Jeeby Man

Oh yeah, that's the one where we had the same category twice under different names

Destructible Lemon

10:55 PM

@DJMcMayhem you remember that time i asked if I could use your handwriting for a font? I was thinking about maybe using it in a game thing i was going to make, but i kind of wanted pretty much all the stuff in the game to be free, so i was wondering if you actually cared about the copyright on that.

DJMcMayhem

@DestructibleLemon If you thought my crappy handwriting was worth putting in a game, I'd be honored lol

No, I don't care about copyright

Destructible Lemon

I feel like the tone on that message isn't what i intended. the point is i think it would be nice if you did that but i also don't mind if you didn't

so uh...

will it be public domain or creative commons

i think i might have been unclear :P

DJMcMayhem

@DestructibleLemon I'm not sure what you mean, but I honestly don't care about copyright. I don't think it's good enough quality to be worth copywriting anyway

@DestructibleLemon Uhhh, ELI5?

Destructible Lemon

public domain: you relinquish all claim over the material and no-one has to credit you at all, basically the only no-no with this is taking the verbatim material and pretending you made it yourself

creative commons: people credit you, can use the thing, and optionally have to share the thing they made out of it as you have shared it

i have a bit of an issue with the non-commercial cc licenses though

creativecommons.org/share-your-work

DJMcMayhem

Let's go with public domain then. I wouldn't mind credit, but I don't want anything using it to be forced into a particular license

Destructible Lemon

11:04 PM

I sort of made a particularly low effort font that i was thinking about making public domain, but i mean your font is handwriting and sort of something you use a lot and possibly higher effort so maybe worth more consideration

dj, you misunderstand

only some cc licenses do that

DJMcMayhem

Oh.

Destructible Lemon

you can pick allow to be shared unconditionally or with the condition of sharing alike

thanks for being a pal btw

DJMcMayhem

Haha, np

@DestructibleLemon let's go with creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0

Btw, could I get a copy of the .otf?

Destructible Lemon

ok so

I actually don't know how to make fonts good

I was just planning on using the image file and copying from it

If i ever end up finishing the game to a playable state i will tell you

DJMcMayhem

Sounds good :)

What's it gonna be about?

Destructible Lemon

11:09 PM

thx

uh, basically, everything is cylinders because they're simply to draw and collision detect

the plot is minimal

sorta like scribblenauts plot: not really any plot

alright, i guess i might as well post my letters that i put almost no effort into

I also feel like it might be a good idea to put the license somewhere a little bit more official tbh. basically just something more static

^ this is public domain now!

betseg

thought i shouldnt have spoiled in the message but i think i might be too late already

what are the last 2 characters

Destructible Lemon

backwards R and backwards E

for character

Conor O'Brien

@LuisMendo who cares? Hate seeing that crappy Jelly code everywhere. — Link 50 mins ago

Destructible Lemon

link pls

Conor O'Brien

that is a link

;D

betseg

11:15 PM

@DestructibleLemon Я ∃ ?

Destructible Lemon

@ConorO'Brien not sure if you missed the joke or if i missed one

Conor O'Brien

@DestructibleLemon I didn't, I just countered with a literal interpretation instead of the obligatory photo

Destructible Lemon

@betseg I was thinking there would be a probability of characters being replaced with those backwards ones

betseg

oh nice

@betseg "What's the hardest bug you've debugged?"

Destructible Lemon

@DJMcMayhem can you move the message where you say go with public domain to trash so nobody gets confused i guess

Zacharý

11:19 PM

@betseg Ya, there exists a solution.

betseg

Destructible Lemon

@betseg what were you spoiling? scribblenauts plot?

betseg

i was spoiling where the bug came from, which is explained towards the end of the story

totallyhuman

;#

SnivyDroid

So im back

So what I can do and just parse whatever im doing into A(B(C(D())))

But what about states?

I will need to pass args

I need to define variables

Thats the main issue

And what about complex functions like loops

There are too many if's

You cannot print for loops

In alpha you can

I guess build a more reasonable "Map" of the code, then let another parser do the dirty work of turning it into python code

Like

1: ['loop', [arga, argb]]

Christopher

11:34 PM

@EsolangingFruit just pretetnd the , doesn't exist :|

@DJMcMayhem dude i love your handwriting

SnivyDroid

its all confusing

and bleh

Christopher

en.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/7ued1f/…

I feel like a lot of us would have good answers :P

@SnivyDroid try one large message, TNB is not supposed to be a brain-feed

SnivyDroid

???

Christopher

We're here to have discussions, not to listen to someone's stream of consciousness.

I would advise you read this

SnivyDroid

sorry

Destructible Lemon

11:41 PM

I sometimes do that to :P

Christopher

It is all good

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher Wait, has mine even been posted yet?

Christopher

@DestructibleLemon didn't you get a 1 month chat ban and I get a 1 week one last time?

@DJMcMayhem I thought that was your handwritting above O_O

Destructible Lemon

@Christopher i think that was something else

@Christopher that was my font

which by the way is public domain now yes

Christopher

@DestructibleLemon well we were not thinking :P

@DestructibleLemon <3 art

betseg

11:43 PM

@DestructibleLemon needs more ligatures

Christopher

@Mego wait, HOW did you ever get your wife to agree to getting companion cubes on your rings???!

Anonymous

@Christopher Because she's also a nerd and also loves Portal

Christopher

@Mego Where did you find her? Heaven? Dreamland?

(i hit enter before finishing my joke :P)

Anonymous

College

Christopher

It was a joke :P but cool

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11:55 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Unicode reversible programs The goal is to make a program that includes unicode control characters that when executed as-is generates a OEIS sequence, and when copied as its rendered and executed, returns a different sequence. This is will be code-golf so the answer with less bytes wins.

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