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10:00 PM
@flawr lol
@MagicOctopusUrn The old man the boat as in "Those who are old are manning the boat"
 
@MagicOctopusUrn Reminds me of this: youtube.com/watch?v=lSx4DGBstYA
 
@HyperNeutrino Wow I'm ******* stupid.
 
lol
> Billet does not end like ballet
 
@flawr I want to click, but I've been rickrolled too many times to trust YouTube links here
 
well neither of those words were english to begin with (I think?)
 
10:01 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing you can only get spacex-rolled or boat-rolled here
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing not a rickroll
 
Wtf is a billet?
 
a ticket (french)
 
@MagicOctopusUrn ticket in French
ninja'd
 
10:02 PM
God I love google: late Middle English (originally denoting a short written document): from Anglo-Norman French billette, diminutive of bille (see bill1). The verb is recorded in the late 16th century, and the noun sense ‘a written order requiring a householder to lodge the bearer, usually a soldier,’ from the mid 17th century; hence the current meaning.
 
@flawr lol I wonder why
that must absolutely mean people are devouring them
 
Also, my phone tried to auto complete that to "French ninja".
 
not that they are never ordered
 
etymology: <word> is an awesome command.
 
@Riker haha, really cool :D </pun>
 
10:03 PM
yep
I noticed :p
 
Fart used to be feorting in old-English.
 
@Riker I think there just aren't any approved large scale productions yet.
 
ah
 
@MagicOctopusUrn brb, making a language where that is the only command
 
Has someone done a well-defined HTML to Markdown challenge?
@cairdcoinheringaahing What, fart? A fart challenge sounds... odd..
TL;DR when the input is "fart" execute the command. If not, don't, no computers required.
 
10:08 PM
@MagicOctopusUrn ಠ_ಠ read what message the reply points to
 
@HyperNeutrino it was a bad joke.
 
-1
A: Prove if $n^2$ is even, then $n$ is even

Kenny LauDefinitions $x\text{ is even} := \exists y[y+y=x]$ (Denote as $E(x)$) $x\text{ is odd} := \exists y[S(y+y)=x]$ (Denote as $O(x)$) Axioms $\forall x[S(x) \ne 0]$ $\forall x \forall y[S(x)=S(y) \implies x=y]$ $\forall x[x+0=x]$ $\forall x \forall y[x+S(y)=S(x+y)]$ $[\varphi(0) \land [\forall ...

my most controversial answer
+2/-3
 
that's overkill
have my upvote just because overkill
 
10:11 PM
thanks lol
 
I'm not going to try to interpret it though :P
 
Wow a really nice school emailed me. W&L
Said I can use common app to apply
 
@HyperNeutrino how's your group theory
 
No interest in going but still cool
 
haven't been working on that particular problem for a while since I started looking through lin algebra again before we start with the professor
 
10:13 PM
Do you guys goto school ever... or like, just code-golf during school?
 
@HyperNeutrino have you worked at other abstract algebra problems?
 
and because school
 
@MagicOctopusUrn school starts in a week
 
@LeakyNun I don't think so?
 
@MagicOctopusUrn Wtf is school
 
10:14 PM
Ahhhhhh... right, summer lost all it's meaning for me when I started taking college summer classes...
 
I have been in school for a month
 
@MagicOctopusUrn well I have time during my spare in block 2 and during lunch lol. but yes I do go to school and you'll notice I say "gtg history o/" a fair amount because I code-golf from 7:55 to 8:15 before school technically starts
 
over a month actually
 
> it's
 
I can tell those college classes paid off
 
10:15 PM
@HyperNeutrino I used to play friggen Euchre before school. I wish stackexchange was a thing when I was younger.
 
OH GOD, I AM OLD.
 
@LeakyNun haha take my upvote :D
 
I said "when I was younger"... It's all over for me ._.
 
@flawr thanks :)
 
10:15 PM
@MagicOctopusUrn good bye
 
@MagicOctopusUrn How old? :)
 
@LeakyNun doesn't induction work for that proof O_O?
 
@flawr This would be time 5
 
@MagicOctopusUrn yes, I used it for every part
(A5)
 
@LeakyNun just read the question, lemme look at the answer now.
@LeakyNun jesus, why did you prove the axioms out too?
 
10:18 PM
lol
 
@LeakyNun my professor in college would've literally taken off points for "doing rework".
@LeakyNun then again he was a spacioushole.
 
@MagicOctopusUrn the axioms I listed are really the Peano axioms
 
@LeakyNun What does the * in A6 mean?
 
commutative etc are not axioms
@H.PWiz multiplication
 
@LeakyNun x*0=x ?
 
10:19 PM
Well imma go learn unity bye o/
 
@LeakyNun yeah, but you can reference proofs without having to manually write them out.
 
@MagicOctopusUrn I was doing an experiment: to prove it using intuitionistic logic
@H.PWiz fixed
 
@LeakyNun haha, seeing how angry people get when you tell them the unfiltered answers ;)?
@LeakyNun lemme go get 15 rep on this board to +1 you...
That was a fun read, I miss needing math in real life.
 
practical people are like "ew overkill -1" and we're like ":D :D :D so overkill +1"
 
lol
accurate
 
10:21 PM
Halp gparted says that it can't resize the partition when I try to resize the EFI system partition
 
Yeah, practical people run the "educational" world though, which ****ing sucks.
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ lol
 
@LeakyNun do they use LaTeX?
 
@MagicOctopusUrn yes
good luck formatting natural deduction in latex
 
@LeakyNun I've found another home.
 
10:22 PM
congratulations
 
@LeakyNun I wrote this "requirements system" for my company that uses latex to let actuarials input equations directly into a production system. It's buggy, but really does work better than them like "I guess this is right".
 
:O
 
And check partition also crashes D:
 
@TuxCopter did you turn it on and off again?
 
I broke the EFI partition it'so not gonna boot
 
10:25 PM
@LeakyNun the biggest stipulation was that they only needed [product, sum, fractions, and like 12 other things]. Then I infer that any non-numerical non-syntactical element is a variable. Then I have my web-ui show fields for each 'variable' element so that when they inpu tthe variable elemetns the equation actually executes.
Was a really neat idea, got my promotion from it.
Honestly "execute simple LaTeX" would be an AMAZING challenge, if anyone wants to steal that.
 
Lmao gparted just crash when I try to start it
 
What's the Linux equivalent of the Windows INCLUDE environmental variable?
 
@TuxCopter did you try running cd / and rm -rf *?
@TuxCopter (kidding, of course).
EFI partitions are weird, I ended up just formatting my drive last time I tried to write a dual boot drive and installing windows instead...
 
Yo
 
@Scrooble dooble doo.
 
10:29 PM
Well I'my going to reboot and just hope that it works
 
@Scrooble Is your avatar a MotG monster?
 
Hi @Scrooble
Ooh it boots
No idea why gparted is freaking out tho
 
@MagicOctopusUrn It is indeed!
The 15/15 is a bit over-the-top even in my deck, bit I keep it for the flashiness.
 
@Scrooble jesus, it looks like a 15/15... I use white/black and my record is a score of (Me-77HP Opponent-0HP)
My friend hated me after that one... "Kill me already! OMG!", "Dude, I would If I didn't just have random healing cards in my hand."
I have a magic deck without monsters that is designed to make the game extend as long as possible.
But that one wasn't that.
Whats the name of the card?
 
Fun testing with my bot going on here:
 
10:34 PM
Worldspine Wurm
 

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
 
According to Wikipedia the maximum volume size of FAT32 is 16TiB
So no idea why gparted doesn't want to my EFI SYSTEM partition to 512MiB
 
@Scrooble only $7? Pshhhh... it's powerful but not RARE.
 
My deck generates unbelievable amounts of mana (I generally dump my entire library to the 'field turn 4), so I can hardcast it with ease.
 
@TuxCopter are you using an SSD? I've had problems with a sector on an HDD (spinner) not being able to read correctly, making me unable to partition things like I wanted.
 
10:36 PM
Pretty good value for GGG8
 
@MagicOctopusUrn Nope, HDD
 
@TuxCopter then it literally could be anything from hard-ware to software, especially if you're re-purposing an old HDD.
 
My computer is 6 month old
 
hi is anyone willing to test my (primitive) reminder bot
 
@TuxCopter wait why are you not just making a windows boot USB?
@TuxCopter go buy a 32 GB flash drive and put your bootsec on that.
 
10:38 PM
@MagicOctopusUrn but I don't want to boot on windows
 
I have 3 USB bootsecs, 1 windows 10, 1 windows vista (don't ask why) and 1 ubuntu.
Horridly slow on occasion, but not the worst option by far.
Super cheap.
Used to run a virus removal and CSE tutoring service in college ._. those things made me $$$ lol.
 
10:55 PM
@LeakyNun I'm sure this has to be easier to prove than that.
 
@ATaco from the axioms?
 
I don't know much about mathematical theory, so I wouldn't know we're to start, but it's relatively easy to prove practically.
 
well the accepted answer is easy enough
!p->!q<=>q->p
 
That even goes through the mess of "Prove that every number is either even or not even"...
 
so if n=2z+1 then n^2=4z^2+4z+1=2(2z^2+2z)+1 which is odd
@ATaco sigh that's true
 
10:59 PM
But, "Even" is just divisibility by 2, which is a binary case. It's either divisible by 2, or it isn't.
 
proof pls
 
@ATaco establishing that the division algorithm is unique would give you a way longer proof
2 mins ago, by ATaco
I don't know much about mathematical theory, so I wouldn't know we're to start, but it's relatively easy to prove practically.
> practically
 
I mean, being "even", is divisibility by 2 (a prime), as such, it's prime factors must contain 2. Multiplication can be described as concatenation of prime factors (I have no idea how one would prove this), as such, the prime factors of a×b must atleast contain all the prime factors of a. So if a is even, then a's prime factors contains 2, then a×a's prime factors contains 2, therefore a×a must be even.
 
wait what's the original question
 
There's obvious many cases in that that would be "Yes, but can you prove that", but that's beyond me.
Prove that if x is even, x^2 is even.
 
11:02 PM
actually it's the other way around
you stated the converse (?) which is easy; an even number times any number is even lol
(lol Leaky's overkill answer has gone from -1 to 4)
 
Oh, that's probably why I was tripped up.
 
mhm :P
 
so, I sorta had an idea for a koth
again
 
@ATaco This is 10000% easy
 
11:05 PM
also @LeakyNun what is modus tollens again? I can't remember; this was from like 3 years ago
 
$n = 2x, n^2 = 4x^2$; QED
 
@ASCII-only yeah just any even number times another number is even therefore QED
 
Well I'm glad it was infact hard.
 
the koth starts by auctioning a bunch of cards off, and bots buy up the cards, and then can do trades and stuff. then after that the bots play ccg type games with their collected cards
 
@ASCII-only or that too
 
11:06 PM
@ATaco It's not
10
A: Prove if $n^2$ is even, then $n$ is even

Sean RobersonTo prove $P \implies Q$ you can prove $\sim Q \implies \sim P$ - not $Q$ implies not $P$. This is called contraposition. Both statements are equivalent. Here's how we prove the contrapositive. Let $n = 2j +1$. Squaring gives $n^2 = 4j^2 + 4j + 1 = 2(2j^2 + 2j) +1$. Hence $n^2$ is odd. This is e...

 
No, Prove that if x^2 is even, x is even is hard.
 
Nope
 
no
just look at the accepted answer
 
Proofs look like Esoteric Languages to me.
 
hi if I want an upvote for my chat bot for it to be able to work am I allowed to ask in here or is that system abuse
@ATaco what if they actually are??? o_O :P
 
11:08 PM
@HyperNeutrino nah
 
@DestructibleLemon nah as in... __?
 
My first thought was "Is there a Charcoal Answer"?
 
@HyperNeutrino "not q implies not p", then "p implies q"
 
ah ok
wait why is that not allowed in that form of logic (forget the name rip)
also IIRC wasn't there another modus something?
 
11:11 PM
@ATaco using the fundamental theorem of arithmetic is of course more difficult...
 
anyway gtg for a bit brb o/
 
@HyperNeutrino modus ponens
@HyperNeutrino intuitionistic logic is basically classical logic minus law of the excluded middle
where you cannot say "p is true or not p is true" or "not not p implies p"
 
KSP taught me more about orbital mechanics than my Year 12 physics class ever did.
 
@LeakyNun I'm not sure what law of the excluded middle is...
 
11:19 PM
oops wrong selection
 
@HyperNeutrino either P or not P
 
Just to confirm P is either true or not true, correct?
 
$ sudo xclip -o > /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/clipboard
zsh: permission denied: /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/clipboard
why can't i do that in sudo???
 
That is, if a is not b and c is not b then a is c?
 
11:21 PM
@TuxCopter do sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/clipboard
 
the file doesn't exists
 
And I'm trying to > it so if anything I would need write access
 
@ATaco huh what? 1 is not 2 and 3 is not 2 so 1 is 3?
 
but I'm sudo
 
11:22 PM
whoops I misread your command I'm dumb
 
@HyperNeutrino I'm referring to in terms of these Axioms
(I need a better AutoCorrect AHK script)
 
The script corrected "Makes" into "Maches" because I must have 'started typing' from after the m, so it corrected "Akes" into "Aches"
 
@ATaco why is this one box necessary, really
@ATaco BAD REQUEST
 
That link contained ,, who ever did that is evil.
 
The PPCG XStore folder is an absolute mess.
 
11:31 PM
is there a reason for the file names to unscramble or is that just to waste my time
 
pls r00d stop
 
haha I forgot about that folder in there that I made
 
@HyperNeutrino It looks cool.
 
@ATaco ಠ_ಠ
 
11:31 PM
@ATaco speed it up at least
also I think I might make that garfield remix soon
 
Fun fact, the filenames are sorted alphabetically, but the alphabet is also run though the xor.
 
why would you do that
 
It's just a result of the fact that the files are stored with their xor'd names in the system.
 
why would you do that
 
Anonymity™
 
11:35 PM
no
 
The only way one could work out the filenames is if they had the key (Or if they did like, some basic cryptography I guess, xor isn't that secure)
 
well I'll be making xstorefield
soon
 
Also, I've increased the speed of the animation.
 
also uploading for me takes too long lol
I'm currently uploading a 2.5 GiB file to xstore
 
Why tho
That's the result of my provider's bandwidth being terrible.
 
11:38 PM
@ATaco oh rip
 
@HyperNeutrino why?
 
test how it works with somewhat large files
yeah I gave up because it's slowing down chat and so it's not worth it lol
 
It took a fair bit of work to make it work with large files.
 
I have 13.67 Mbps down and 0.52 Mbps up lol
also 13 ms Ping
 
I have 1.5 up/down
 
11:40 PM
I have 100Mbs down and 24Mbs up at home, but sadly I'm at work.
 
@LeakyNun I decided to read through your entire proof after realizing that I do actually understand it, just to get familiar with formal logic a bit more / to review :P
also what is $S(x)$
also lowercase phi
and weird trident thing
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ wat why so low
 
@ASCII-only Middle of nowhere
It costs a bunch too
We may be getting a different provider (if we lucky) and get 20 up/down (we could pay for 150 up down XD)
 
Wait, 1.5Mbps is low?
 
Can someone explain the notation for this? math.stackexchange.com/q/2439649/457091
 
11:50 PM
I'm getting 500kbps
 
If I interpret it correctly, I know the answer to this
Specifically this
 
The Australian NBN has been the best thing to happen to my internet since we switched from dialup.
 
(I will always love seeing a-ta.co links)
 
11:53 PM
Oh, Weekly contact game.
 
Does this just mean "union of all $(a,\frac{2b}{\pi}tan^{-1}(n))$ for all $n\in\mathbb{Z}$"?
 
Well I'm sure this is a bug.
 
rip
oh well I'm going to assume my notation is correct :P
 
@AdmBorkBork RProgN, 6 bytes ~]L1T/
 
how did you even find a CMC so far back
oh wait
userscript dammit the answer was literally right in front of me
 
11:58 PM
;)
@cairdcoinheringaahing Lua, 25 bytes print(("%x"):format(...))
So many userscripts, so beautiful.
 
wondering what the first CMC ever was lol
idk how I'd live life without tacoscripts+se
[;) :P]
 
This is the oldest on record.
 
k thx
 

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