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12:00 AM
also it means that they won't accidentally dial 000 through muscle memory if they're a foreigner for example
although how they would have that as muscle memory is not clear
 
In Aus we have 000, in England it's 999.
 
@PhiNotPi But what if it's nowhere near optimal (i.e. what if you could have used glider gates instead of the massive metacell gates?)
 
@ASCII-only doesn't matter?
 
Yeah I guess
But really the current way might be like posting in Java vs CJam
 
12:28 AM
why was this accepted ಠ_ಠ
 
Wait so I just need to golf my library for that?
 
yup lol
 
Why am I always eating when challenges come ಠ_ಠ
 
@ASCII-only cQuents is inherently slow, I'm storing so much useless crap
 
12:40 AM
wait is there a new challenge?
 
@StepHen like what
 
@ASCII-only Like every previous item in the sequence
 
also damnit Charcoal runs less than halfway to 128KiB
 
and I think with multiple lines every previous item in every other sequence too
 
@StepHen -1 :| very bad idea tbh i was surprised Charcoal was faster even though it had so much overhead haha
 
12:41 AM
@ASCII-only nah it's not supposed to be fast, it's supposed to generate sequences, and sometimes sequences want to have arbitrary length lookback (I haven't implemented it yet though)
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

MD XFThe answer to life, the universe, and every question code-golf string Your challenge is to write the smartest program of all time. We'll call this program Doug. Since Doug is so smart, he can give the correct answer to every valid question he's asked. However, he's also smart enough to know whe...

 
@NewSandboxedPosts we need a tag for 42
 
... ಠ_ಠ
 
@totallyhuman I tried to make one and it got removed :(
 
12:49 AM
XD
 
@totallyhuman We really don't.
 
I'm only half joking :P
 
> only half
 
dammit
 
12:51 AM
Technically, we need to have a lot of tags based on the amount of questions sharing the topic
 
Yep
I really want a but I'm the only one
 
We just use ಠ_ಠ
 
What is for then?
 
I mean there is only one possible true quine challenge I think (output exact source code)
 
12:52 AM
is for valid quines, is for not valid quines that are close
 
@HyperNeutrino Also radiation hardened and softened quines
 
ah ok
 
I think we have too many tags already. Particularly we have a bunch of language tags that are only attached to a question.
 
@ASCII-only that's still a variant though
 
Like for radiation-hardened quines, for code point quines
 
12:53 AM
@WheatWizard to be fair, all language tags are useless
 
Like do we really need
 
@PhiNotPi You're kidding. When do you think it will be done?
 
@totallyhuman I don't think is useless
 
wait wth is that a thing
 
is not useless though?
 
12:54 AM
@WheatWizard That's just cause the restriction on the source code is interesting
 
I like how half of the answers are ASCII-only's and the other half are Neil's here
 
@MDXF I think that tags that language tags that have at least one non- question are probably useful. But I don't see the point in ones that are only attached to a tips question.
 
That's true
 
@HyperNeutrino yes because we're the only two that know it well (i guess?) although it looks like more people have been learning it lately which is great
 
lol that is true
Poll: Should I make Ceres postfix or anyfix?
Probably anyfix because postfix is guaranteed to work with anyfix
 
12:58 AM
How does anyfix work?
 
It doesn't
:P
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
ಠ ͜ ಠ
 
there is a stack and a list of commands, and if a command is encountered and there are not enough items on the stack, it will store the command, and once there are enough elements on the stack for any of the commands, it will run the first command that can be run on the stack
 
Oh cool
 
1:02 AM
anyway gtg for now o/
 
Omnifix is the only fix for me.
 
today I learned a new word
Adjective: antepenultimate (not comparable)
  1. Two before the last, i.e., the one immediately before the penultimate, in a series.
Noun: antepenultimate (plural antepenultimates)
  1. Two before the last in a series. e.g. (..., antepenultimate, penultimate, ultimate)
  2. The syllable that comes two before the last in a word.
  3. The words animal, citizen, comedy, dangerous, obvious, and antepenultimate are stressed on the antepenultimate.
 
Noun: preantepenultimate (plural preantepenultimates)
  1. (chiefly phonetics, obsolete, rare) preantepenult
Adjective: preantepenultimate (not comparable)
  1. (chiefly phonetics and biology) Three before the end; fourth to last.
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A: Usage of "second/third/fourth ... last"

MetaEdThe 4th is next to last or last but one (penultimate).The 3rd is second from (or to) last or last but two (antepenultimate).The 2nd, is third from (or to) last or last but three. According to Google Ngram Viewer there are some occurrences of preantepenultimate in the corpus.As for dialect, you wi...

 
CMC: Whats the longest English word that contains every vowel exactly once. (lets say y is not a vowel)
 
1:06 AM
euioa
 
> longest
 
@orlp longest
 
euphoria is a first guess
oh longest
 
@orlp also apparently it's EUNOIA
PHRAGELLIORHYNCHUS is the longest with them in alphabetical order apparently
 
PERTURBATIONS was the longest I could think of myself.
 
1:08 AM
phrerstphorstphurstpharstphisch
 
nonunderstandingly apparently
cat words.txt | grep "^[^a]*a[^a]*$" | grep "^[^e]*e[^e]*$" | grep "^[^i]*i[^i*]*$" | grep "^[^o]*o[^o]*$" | grep "^[^u]*u[^u]*$" | grep "^[^-]*$" | grep ".............."
using this
 
Adjective: propreantepenultimate (not comparable)
  1. (rare) Of, on, pertaining to, or that is the last syllable but four / fifth syllable from last (of a word or other utterance).
  2. The word minimalism is stressed on its propreantepenultimate syllable.
  3. 1825, Samuel Oliver, A General, Critical Grammar of the Inglish Language, pages 269⁽¹⁾ and 270⁽²⁾
  4. ⁽¹⁾ In its minute divisions, accent is ultimate, penultimate, antepenultimate, preantepenultimate, propreantepenultimate.
  5. ⁽²⁾ The propreantepenultimate accent is the accent on the last syllable but four.
 
someone make a challenge
where you infinitely chain these
 
Oh
I thought there is one
idk
 
1:21 AM
Why are wiki oneboxes so big ಠ_ಠ Why SE
 
Because wikipedia is so big
 
Pretty though, 10/10 onebox.
 
Oh wait. Does the chat onebox support any wiki-powered sites? like wiktionary?
 
Seems to for me.
 
Doesn't work for wikitravel, unfortunatly.
 
1:31 AM
(and esolangs which is wikimedia based)
Verb: unbeseem (third-person singular simple present unbeseems, present participle unbeseeming, simple past and past participle unbeseemed)
  1. (obsolete, transitive) To be unseemly or unsuitable for.
  2. 1594, Richard Hooker, “The First Booke. Concerning Lawes, and Their Severall Kindes in Generall.”, in Of the Lavvs of Ecclesiasticall Politie. Eyght Bookes, London: Printed at London by Iohn Windet, dwelling at the signe of the Crosse Keyes neere Powles Wharffe, and are there to be soulde, OCLC 11061228; republished as Of the Lawes of Ecclesiastical Politie: Eight Bookes, London: Printed by Wil
  3. Law Rationall therefore, which men commonly vſe to call the Law of Nature, meaning thereby the Law which humane Nature knoweth it ſelfe in reaſon vniuerſally bound vnto, which alſo for that cauſe may be termed moſt fitly the law of Reaſon: this Law, I ſay, comprehendeth al thoſe things which men by the light of their naturall...
..oh
That was big
and it was wiktionary
Any way to shove a gui into oneboxes?
 
@ATaco You still have Team Spirit Script? ಠ_ಠ
Also I somehow failed to write an interpreter in anyfix even though it's not even hard ಠ_ಠ
 
Anyone here host their own email
I don't want to seed out $120 to google for email
 
Umm
What?
 
google charges $120/year for 2 acounts
 
Oh
Okay
Use another email system
or a temporary one
 
1:39 AM
I have 3 accounts though
or do you mean GSuite addresses?
 
@Nobody definitely haven't tried that 10/10 good idea
@HyperNeutrino yea
 
oh ok
 
?
 
wait nvm
 
oh I just realized why the anyfix in ceres isn't working well
because the arguments are pushed to the stack so the argument defaults to 0 so + 1 2 adds the 1 to the 0 lol
anyway gtg for now o/
 
1:45 AM
@HyperNeutrino That and EmojiButton. Gotta Represent what I'm selling bruh
 
@HyperNeutrino I still do.
@Mego I don't know, whenever I fix a bug in one of my programs, the number of bugs seems to remain the same.
 
@ATaco So RProgN 2 also doesn't look like it does too hot with large numbers
Like 2^32 isn't calculated properly and gives 4294967300 instead of 4294967296
Like 7-8 digits of accuracy on exponentiation
 
Anonymous
@Phoenix You're doing better than most. "99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs. Take one down, patch it around, 158 little bugs in the code."
5
 
@ArnoldPalmer Ah, the pow function doesn't have enough accuracy.
 
@ATaco Is that a thing that is resolvable?
 
2:01 AM
Should be, but I'm going to try to find a way to make it correctly scalable.
 
Why is a terminal called a TTY? "Terminal" doesn't seem to contain the letter Y.
 
Sounds good man. I'm doing the fermatness question and the only ways I see doing it are either exponentiation or logarithms. I have a "working" solution, but it breaks for numbers larger than 7-8 digits
 
Pewpewpew
Bye
 
"though 'tty' is sometimes used to refer to the Unix terminals, as an acronym for 'teletype'"
 
Huh
 
2:04 AM
The more you know
Found that on the PuTTY wiki page
 
But what does the Pu stand for?
 
plutonium?
 
According to the page, it means nothing lol
My guess is TTY significantly predated PuTTY, and they just tacked on the Pu since it made a real word
 
TTY is pretty ancient.
 
There must be some reason it was chosen over, e.g., FaTTy, sPoTTY, or SHiTTY.
 
2:06 AM
well
I mean the last one seems pretty simple
 
At least one of those is obviously not a candidate
 
is PuTTY... malleable?
 
1
Q: Is it a good 2048 board

DirtyDevThis is my first question here, so any suggestions in the comments would be appreciated! Thanks ;) Introduction One very common strategy for the 2048 game is never ever swiping down. This positions all the big numbers at the top, and the lower ones in the bottom. So, if you apply this strategy ...

 
and ductile
 
2:06 AM
No.
 
PuTTY is customizable
 
But it's often used for SHells.
 
PuTTY's an SSH client.
 
And a Telnet client
 
I probably should avoid FGITW'ing 10 languages on this challenge
I'll stop at 3 :P
 
2:13 AM
Please do
 
People have expressed annoyance at a user answering 5 times on a challenge in 5 minutes so I'll try to not be that annoying :P Besides, I don't even know any more languages that can do this easily...
 
2:25 AM
suppose a language writes each character of it's source code to it's data; does this count as "reading the source" for a quine?
 
Not by the literal definition, but I'd expect downvotes.
 
would a 2048 or similar tag be of use? we have a fair number of 2048 challenges - is there a name for that general type of game? shuffle-games or something like that? Also 15-game
 
@ConorO'Brien doesn't seem interesting
 
I'm ask because the language I'm design has it's source code and data be basically the same thing
@StepHen 15 game is not terribly similar to 2048
 
@ConorO'Brien no, a tag for the genre
 
2:30 AM
wait actually which 15 game are you talking about
 
Anonymous
12
Q: Does using SMBF count as a cheating quine?

MegoThere has been some debate about whether or not using Self-Modifying Brainfuck counts as a "cheating quine": Write a Metaquine Golf you a quine for great good! About SMBF: The program's source code is located on the tape, to the left of the intial tape pointer position Modifying the program'...

 
@ConorO'Brien the 15 shuffling tiles in a square
 
@Mego so, if my language does that implicitly, but I clear that result, then generate the quine, it's ok?
 
Anonymous
Man I've been wanting to write a challenge about puzzle boxes for a while. It's crazy that they haven't been solved in the general case.
 
they haven't? o_O the regular 15 is pretty simple
 
Anonymous
2:31 AM
@ConorO'Brien I would think so, but that would be very close to the line, so you'd have a lot of convincing to do to other people.
 
@Mego puzzle boxes? that's it
can I make that tag?
 
@Mego ok, thanks
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien oeis.org/A087725
 
@Mego I do not remember writing an answer to that ._.
 
It was almost 1.5 years ago... xD
 
Anonymous
2:34 AM
The 15-puzzle isn't terribly complicated, and A* with taxicab for heuristics is a good way to solve it, but for higher dimensions (like 5x5, aka a 24-puzzle), the upper bound of moves isn't known.
 
Anonymous
With 4x4, it's not too unreasonable to just enumerate every possible board configuration and find an upper limit that way. With 5x5, that crosses into the realm of unreasonable.
 
once we get quantum computers that will be easy xD
 
but there's such an easy algorithm to salve 4x4...
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien Solving them isn't the hard part. Finding the upper limit of moves needed to solve one is.
 
Anonymous
2:38 AM
At present, all we know about 5x5 boards is that the upper limit is in [152, 208]
 
are we talking about a scrambled board? (distance to solved state)
 
@ConorO'Brien least to solve any board
 
Anonymous
In my entirely empirical experience, 80-100 moves for a 5x5 is pretty common
 
lol I finally made my language's anyfix work
 
2:42 AM
ooh
 
The SMBF quine is just [.>] right..?
 
Anonymous
@ATaco [<]>[.>]
 
[<.]
 
Anonymous
The source is to the left of the pointer
 
Wait yeah the one Mego had
 
Anonymous
2:44 AM
@totallyhuman Is it RTL? I thought it was LTR.
 
Wait yeah the one Mego has
@Mego ye mine is wrong
 
\o/ Ceres can now do things
 
Anonymous
Actually it should be <[<]>[.>]
 
SMBF wraps when it gets to the end, no?
 
2:46 AM
@Mego no that's smbf
 
Still longer than the RProgN2 quine :P
 
Anonymous
@DestructibleLemon Oh you...
 
« . ` 5 bytes :p
 
(you said Actually)
 
@HyperNeutrino "Welcome to the club"
 
Anonymous
2:47 AM
I've been bamboozled
 
@ATaco I thought it was
1
1
 
That's no-longer considered valid.
Due to it being literal only.
 
@Phoenix we don't talk about that anymore
 
1
«\
Works for 4 bytes though.
(And yes, it's expandable)
 
Is every rprogn program a quine ಠ_ಠ
 
2:49 AM
Not at all, it's just got a large variety of quines with varying levels of compactness.
 
Top 3
 
I was editing sorry
 
@StepHen Did you use the tag-edit functionality?
 
yes
it still bumps
 
oh hm
 
2:50 AM
I just did ~4 and then I'll do another batch later I guess
 
it never seems to do that when I edit it
then again I always edit the top question for whatever reason ಠ_ಠ
 
Hey @HyperNeutrino
 
Just the person I was looking for
 
?
I have to go in like 2 minutes lol
 
2:52 AM
Do you know how OEIS sequence A000236 works
aka the next one in the OEIS question
 
nope
but why would you need me for that?
 
Because you're good at math
and got the last hard OEIS
 
oh um
that was mostly Leaky giving me enough information for me to suddenly realize what to do
lol
Dennis is a mathematician. I'm a student going into grade 10. Maybe he might know more about it? xD
anyway I gtg now o/
 
Half the people here are good at math though so you should find somebody
Bye
 
Wait game of life Tetris is close to completion
 
2:55 AM
@HusnainRaza relatively
 
CMC: Given a string, reverse it by chunks of increasing size. Example: "0123456789" -> "6789345120"", or "abbcccdddd" -> "ddddcccbba". If the input string doesn't even divide into chunks, whatever is left over on the end of the string is considered its own chunk.
 
Who's working on it
 

 The Quest for Tetris

For discussing this: goo.gl/kuCiRF | VarLife: goo.gl/StrPLC |...
OK hope I didn't mess front page up too much...
 
3:29 AM
3 Byte RProgN2 Quine. \n«Ø
 
3:47 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

hBy2PyFinding My Favorite Times code-golf date I really like times that follow certain patterns. In particular, I like times where all the numbers are the same, or all of the numbers increase sequentially. Further, I viscerally hate when people put letters in my times, so all of that AM/PM nonsense i...

 
Any JavaScript wizards here?
 
@MDXF Trying to convert online interpreters into TIO interpreters eh?
 
Yep :P
 
4:03 AM
@MDXF yes
Well I'm not a wizard, Conor is the only JS wizard
 
Okay... how difficult would it be for you (or Conor) to get this interpreter to work offline (via node shell)?
 
@MDXF also seriously IMO is way better to port to python (did that to shtriped and lost it)
@MDXF by the end of the day if I get enough computer time, not at one RN so you'll have to wait quite a while
 
@ASCII-only Cool. Thanks, and no problem if it would take too long, I mean to learn JS eventually anyway
 
Anonymous
@ASCII-only Seriously is already written in Python
 
I can speak JS apparently.
I'm not sure when that happened.
 
4:08 AM
@Mego oh crap I wasted so much time
 
@Mego Seriously??? (:P)
 
@MDXF nah it's fine I'm just not sure how long I'll be able to use a computer today haha
 
Anonymous
@ASCII-only You were trying to port a language to the language it is written in?
 
@Mego no I was trying to port Charcoal to Charcoal
 
Anonymous
I am incredibly confused. What is this conversation even about?
 
4:12 AM
@Mego oops sorry I didn't mean to say I was going to port seriously the language, I meant porting the JS Lang to python
 
and this is what happens when you name your languages common words
 
Anonymous
Porting JS to Python would be frustrating and not rewarding
 
Yes, but a language implemented in JS to python is really easy
 
Anonymous
Oh I see what you mean
 
Does Dennis have any nicknames? Like how Jon Skeet is the Chuck Norris of Programming, is Dennis the Chuck Norris of Code Golf?
 
4:24 AM
Dennis is the Dennis of Code Golf.
Jon Skeet is the Dennis of SO
 
Heh
 
@MDXF Some people say Dennis is God.
 
@Phoenix Hm, wouldn't really surprise me
 
@ATaco no Jon Skeet cannot be compared to Dennis, Jon Skeet is terrible
 
I wouldn't go that far.
 
4:27 AM
@ASCII-only Ehh... 964k rep vs 150k rep. not terrible. But considering PPCG has been around like a third as long as SO has...
 
Well ok but his reputation precedes him a little too much, like how he gets a ton of upvotes in Java answers he gets wrong
@MDXF and Dennis joined way later than that
 
@ASCII-only Yeah, there are like fifty SO meta posts asking if there's a way to anonymous-ify answers, since people are more inclined to accept a lame answer from a high-rep user than a great answer from a new user
 
I found out that's not the case on World Building, and I am very pleased.
 
I think it's only really the case for SO
 
Yes because SO is the trash of SE
 
4:29 AM
Because everyone is on SO
 
I can't call SO trash, I use it too much.
 
@ATaco you only use the good .001%
 
SO forces people to use socks to ask questions because people are too strict, but not script enough in the places it's necessary
 
Is there a challenge for radiation weak quines? That is quines where changing any byte makes it print its new source code?
 
There is.
32
Q: Radiation softened quine

CalculatorFelineIt's simple: Make a proper quine where if you remove any character, it's still a quine. The difference between this and a radiation hardened quine is that if your program is AB, in a radiation hardened quine A would output AB, but here, A would output A. Code golf, all standard rules, standard ...

Not change, but still same premise.
 
4:50 AM
CMC: output all numbers of the form 0 < 3n+2 <= k for input k. (Obfuscated version in ruby!)
 
@ConorO'Brien k=>foreach(var i in Enumerable.Range(i,k))if((i-2)%3==0)yield return i;
Dammit, accidentally put i as the first parameter to Range
Should be 1
 
@ConorO'Brien lambda k:range(2,k,3) might work in Python
 
Anonymous
5:08 AM
@ASCII-only Needs to be k+1
 
@ConorO'Brien Jelly, 6 bytes: R×3’fR
@ConorO'Brien Jelly, 3 bytes: Ḋm3
 
5:26 AM
RProgN2, 6 Bytes. 2\3#p;
 
0
Q: Are OPPCGMCS questions allowed on meta?

MendeleevAs the title says, are questions about the PPCG Minecraft server allowed on the meta site?

 
6:22 AM
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Oliver NiI just want the browser! code-golf browser In the beginning there was NCSA Mosaic, and Mosaic called itself NCSA_Mosaic/2.0 (Windows 3.1), and Mosaic displayed pictures along with text, and there was much rejoicing. 15 years later... And then Google built Chrome, and Chrome used Webkit,...

 
6:49 AM
@Mego I think this is the case for Charcoal but it's written in Python :/
 
7:01 AM
the second one is shorter @NewSandboxedPosts
 
7:19 AM
@Dennis Add support for Crystal?
Wait NVM
 
hmm how do i generate all combinations of numbers (with duplicates) from 1 to n, with at least one instance of n
 
Ummm... is there a way to get the row and column of the cursor in the command line?
 
@Qwerp-Derp depends on the language, generally anything with curses api/bare-terminal access then yes
 
Crystal?
 
@Qwerp-Derp doesn't look like there is
 
7:32 AM
@ASCII-only It's possible in Python, because of the Curses library
 
@Qwerp-Derp Yeah
 
Is the curses library written in C or Python?
If it's written in C then I can make a binding
 
@Qwerp-Derp C
ok I cheated way too much
https://tio.run/##tVdLc9s2EL7rV8A8RORQpqlHO60V2ZPxpem07iHt9CBzMiAFSbApkAEpR46t3@7uAqT4VlR3qoPIWez7210s7@kjTQLJ4/RcRAv2@hqylPDko0jJjCy3Ikh5JMxHGlrkuUfgJ1m6lYKc8eSW3poxlQkDZsVhTXv7Xk8pELwinwvTMF5Tn@GZQf1gwZarNb9/CDciir/IJN0@ft09fTOmivmRSk79kCXA/UyMa@OSuGSvz6JtGm@Vmow5ltFK0g1Q5p6mLCNJTOUMEN0pPN6TETxsO/emwnWPXAMSwiP30gmZWKXrKZy9JyE8qqL440tigv4ZyFqFw/Ncw/ze85T1ihALE9bO7KTRX3HM5A1NmGl5JV8ah06wpvIGIPuQmq5VGNj39H@GhNyKMhABCOQxIEhmJhmyHZP6dFqGWedZky4ugjWj6edkzSA3XAgm/2Q7BOHXT3/cOkkquVjx5ZN5CM1yJItDGjDz4s54eX7ZX6z4ACAr0weadicq1EtNvSRGUVTKx65gFNApkxRPkiLnRV0gt5PEIQStrLVVicY/k
@MDXF took like 5 minutes lol i'll port to Python later for the CLI (busy failing to do orlp's challenge), but you should be able to get Dennis to put that on TIO
 
7:59 AM
1
Q: Happy Birthday, let's have some cake!

Ian H.It's my friend's birthday soon and since he is a programmer and ASCII art lover, I thought I'd make him some ASCII cake! Sadly, I keep forgetting his current age, so I would like to have a program for my ASCII oven, that bakes a cake with a specified number of candles, so I don't have to do it m...

 
8:18 AM
@LuisMendo It is an own language, but influenced by latin german and italian see here. (Actually there is one official version, but nobody spdaks that, as it is with swiss german, swiss french and ticinese. The swiss manage to butcher every la guage
)
@Qwerp-Derp Judging by the name, curses must have been written inC++.
 
8:30 AM
ok I'm a little bit confused here. the leading answer on this question seems to contradict the consensus on this question
1
Q: is an entirely cooperative koth on topic?

Destructible LemonI'm planning a challenge, in which players submit a bot (one per player), as in a koth. however, none of the submitted bots play against each other, instead they play against an npc force of alien things. The goal is for the team to survive as long as possible. that is, there is no scoring betwee...

 
@DestructibleLemon The old question was about having two teams, like Red vs Blue - Pixel Team Battlebots, so there is a concept of a winner, just not an individual person but a whole team. The new question has no distinction at all. The community seemed willing to accept the old question at the time, presumably because it's a very different approach but still has an objective winning criterion
 
8:45 AM
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

void get_cursor_pos(int* x, int* y) {
    *x = 0;
    *y = 0;
    printf("\033[6n");
    scanf("\033[%d;%dR", y, x);
}

int main() {
    int x, y;
    get_cursor_pos(&x, &y);
    printf("%d, %d\n", x, y);
}
Why won't the scanf work? I have to manually press ENTER in order to get the results
 
@Qwerp-Derp what is \033?
 
@flawr Oh, I didn't know about that labriem
 
\e
So basically the ESCAPE char
 
well of course you need to press enter
that's how you give the input to the program
 
@LeakyNun ?
 
8:47 AM
@flawr *language
 
@DestructibleLemon I still like the idea of somewhere in between the two. A random selection of the players are picked to play a game, and they all get the same score at the end. Over many games those who are better at helping the others reach a high score will be themselves scored higher. That way it's purely cooperative (no other team to compete against) but there is still an incentive to keep trying to make your bot more cooperative/supportive
 
\033[6n sends bytes directly to STDIN, in the form of \033[n;m with no newline
I want to retrieve that
But it won't let me retrieve it until I press ENTER
 
@trichoplax I think that is the way to go with this challenge, or score each player with number of kills + time survived or something like that.
 
I think the trick is finding a game where cooperation is non trivial to achieve but allows higher scores than individual attempts
 
@LeakyNun ? Are you still on?
 
8:51 AM
Wait... Are mod names coloured blue in SE chat?
 
They are
 
@trichoplax Thanks :D
 
:)
It applies to all chat mods though - not just PPCG mods. So for example I can only moderate on CG, not any other sites, but being a mod on any SE site makes that person a mod for all of SE chat too
 
@trichoplax I noticed (your name was blue)
CMC: Given a String consisting of lowercase / uppercase (your choice) ASCII, maps them to their alphabet indexes (0-/1-indexed)
 
How do some people receive votes as soon as they answer a challenge? The last one I saw was answered 20 seconds ago and was already +1
 
8:56 AM
@Qwerp-Derp yes
 
ABCD -> 0, 1, 2, 3 (uppercase and 0-indexed)
@TheLethalCoder Jeny_mathy's answer on my challenge?
 
@Mr.Xcoder 3 bytes in Pyth
 
@TheLethalCoder I upvoted it because I was online and liked the answer.
@LeakyNun working on it
@LeakyNun mxG (not tested), I suppose?
 
@Mr.Xcoder nice
 

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