The Nineteenth Byte

Step Hen

5:00 PM

@Adám Why do we need mods if we have computers like Dennis?

totallyhuman

oh great now i'm out-golfed by cjam

Erik the Outgolfer

tied

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer What's the policy on questions that need to be closed? Fix them first, and then close?

Erik the Outgolfer

you don't aim to close you aim to fix

you only close if you can't easily fix or it takes time or something like that

Step Hen

@EriktheOutgolfer So it's a poorly written dupe, then what? :P

totallyhuman

5:01 PM

meanwhile jelly is sitting at the top with half the amount of bytes o0

Erik the Outgolfer

@StepHen then it's a dupe that's unfixable

Step Hen

@totallyhuman Makes sense, twice as many chars = half as much code

Erik the Outgolfer

> Don't polish turds!

Business Cat

That Jelly answer is really clever though

Erik the Outgolfer

– Jeff Atwood

Adám

5:02 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer So if there is a dupe with missing code-golf tag, should I tag it code-golf before dupe hammering it?

Erik the Outgolfer

yes because that's a case where you would use your dupe hammer validly

Step Hen

@EriktheOutgolfer But then you're polishing a turd because you're fixing it a bit by adding a missing tag

Erik the Outgolfer

@BusinessCat huh? when I read it I just wonder why I didn't think of it...

Mr. Xcoder

Can anyone give me some (possibly final) feedback on this: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…? I know I should leave it longer in the sandbox, but I do not know if I will be able to spend a lot of time on PPCG the days to follow, and hence want to post it today. Additionally, PeterTaylor and Shaggy have seen it, so I am pretty confident it is ok.

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer OK, if there is a KC dupe missing its KC tag, should I tag it KC before CV it?

Erik the Outgolfer

5:03 PM

basically you put the tag in so that your hammer works

that is, well, not really turd polishing

Step Hen

@EriktheOutgolfer Tag the turd so you can step on it

totallyhuman

i don't think you want to step in it

Erik the Outgolfer

tag the turd so you can get rid of it in a better way of course ;)

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder I don't get it. How is that any different from determining which list of ints≤9 has a higher average, albeit with an awkward input format?

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Integers lower than 9?! You have to handle 993826789 for example.

All the ints ≤ 9 have the densities equal to themselves.

Adám

5:07 PM

@Mr.Xcoder 993826789 is just an awkward input format for [9,9,3,8,2,6,7,8,9].

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám You have to sum them and divide by their count.

Erik the Outgolfer

umm...isn't that definition of average?

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder ^

Mr. Xcoder

So, sum(list(str(number)))/len(list(str(number)))

@EriktheOutgolfer What do you mean? Is it too trivial?

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder It is a mixture of two unrelated challenges, find the avg, and compare two numbers. Both are trivial and probably dupes.

Erik the Outgolfer

5:08 PM

imo it's just cmp(average(base(x, 10)), average(base(y, 10)))

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder At a minimum you way overcomplicated it

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer IMO, it's just cmp(average(x), average(base(y)) with a very strange input format.

Mr. Xcoder

Simplified: Compare the "average" of two numbers, and output 3 values for 3 cases.

@StepHen What in the world is overcomplicated?

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder too trivial imo

Mr. Xcoder

Not IMO

Step Hen

5:10 PM

@Mr.Xcoder make (something) more complicated than necessary.

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder Simplified: compare the average of two lists each given in the specific format of a single integer.

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen With the comparison?

@Adám Yes, somehow

totallyhuman

hard enough for it to be impossible in my language o0

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder -1 for awkward input format.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Awkward?!

Step Hen

5:11 PM

@Mr.Xcoder No, the challenge is what Adam said, and you're talking about densities and all that, stuff that isn't really relevant when you can use words like "average" to mean what you are trying to say

Mr. Xcoder

Ok, then, I'll do that.

totallyhuman

*works on improving his language*

Mr. Xcoder

I simplify it

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder Yes, most challenges allow list input as lists or matrices or JSON or something normal like that.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám JSON is more normal than an Integer? On which Earth?!

Adám

5:12 PM

@StepHen as lists

Erik the Outgolfer

imo not really the best challenge it just combines base(x, 10) average and cmp...

Step Hen

OH I get it

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder I've seen lists written as JSON many times. I've never seen tiny-int lists stored as digits of a large int.

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder For the challenge, two lists of chars would be how people would want to take input.

Adám

@StepHen I'd want input as two lists of ints.

Erik the Outgolfer

5:14 PM

^

Zacharý

Well, I now hate the phrase Missing value run

@Zacharý wut

@Zacharý Fortress?

@Adám Yeah.

Why are you messing with Fortress in the first place when Java is something that industry uses

Adám

5:16 PM

@StepHen Because Fortress is beautiful while Java is, well, Java.

2

Step Hen

@Adám But it's kinda hard to make a living writing Fortress, AFAIK

Adám

@StepHen There are other reasons to program than making a living.

Mr. Xcoder

Done, simplified. Can you please take a look?

Zacharý

I know, I'm just fooling around with it.

Why do people mess with Jelly? It's not used in industry.

Mr. Xcoder

If anyone can improve the introduction, feel free.

Xanderhall

5:18 PM

All the Java hate :(

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder Why do you keep calling the inputs integers? Just call them lists, and in the I/O section specify that you may take the list as a single int. (Who would want to anyway?)

Okx

@Xanderhall I use Java whenever I'm not golfing.

Zacharý

On PPCG, it's because Java is notoriously bad for golfing.

Adám

@Okx Poor you.

Okx

Although I still use Java occasionally while golfing, iff it outgolfs python

Mr. Xcoder

5:19 PM

@Adám Oh, I forgot to update that part, editing now

Okx

@Adám What? Java's a great language if you give it a chance.

Zacharý

He's saying APL > Java.

Most likely.

Adám

@Okx APL is a great language even if you don't give it a chance.

Okx

biases

Xanderhall

@Zacharý Java's bad for golfing?

Adám

5:21 PM

@Xanderhall It is very rare to see Java being the shortest.

Zacharý

Java is horrible at golfing.

Xanderhall

No non-golfing language is gonna be the shortest

Zacharý

APL.
J.

PYTHON

Xanderhall

Ot

Adám

@Zacharý Actually, Java may offer lots of opportunities to golf. It just won't compete in code length with other languages.

Mr. Xcoder

5:22 PM

I haven't seen GolfScript in ~~years~~ months

Xanderhall

@Adám that

Java's fantastic to golf in, mostly because it's satisfying to shave off huge chunks of code

Whereas in something like Jelly you're shaving off a byte at a time

Erik the Outgolfer

apl is great if you don't have to give your phone number and address for download for apparently no reason...

Adám

@Xanderhall As opposed to APL, where the obvious solution is often the shortest.

@EriktheOutgolfer You don't have to. There is an unregistered version.

Erik the Outgolfer

I use linux

Xanderhall

Java also got a lot better to golf in after the convention was set that lambdas are allowed

Erik the Outgolfer

5:24 PM

also I need latest version for code golf

of course there's tio

Zacharý

This is the fortress program for APL iota I got to work (in ASCII): f(n)=array[\ZZ32\](n).fill(fn(x)=>x)

Erik the Outgolfer

but what about stuff impossible in tio?

Adám

@Zacharý Monadic ⍳?

@EriktheOutgolfer Like what?

Erik the Outgolfer

file io, animation output etc

Zacharý

@Adám Monadic ⍳ on a scalar. IO=0

totallyhuman

5:26 PM

file io is actually possible on tio

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer File I/O is included on TIO's Dyalog APL. Animation? Like timing. I've used that on TIO.

totallyhuman

internet access however...

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám what if I wanna see results after execution?

also by animation I mean text animation

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer You don't have that in the stand-alone version either. Built-in graphics are only on Windows (so far).

@EriktheOutgolfer Ah, actually, you may be able to change text in-place in a terminal. Never done it though.

Zacharý

Quad SX?

(Can't remember what the name was)

LegionMammal978

5:29 PM

Are there any good references for changes in country borders over time?

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám escape codes to the rescue...?

LegionMammal978

That is, a single source where I can get this information

Adám

@Zacharý ⎕SM

Zacharý

Yeah ... don't use that though.

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah, I've done challenges where I output escape codes. I can inspect them myself to see if they are correct, even if I can't actually see a real terminal.

@Zacharý ;-)

Erik the Outgolfer

5:31 PM

@Adám and what about animation with sleeping in-between? total time isn't so reliable...

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer I just replace ⎕← with function called ∆_ which outputs the desired output next to a time stamp.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Done now.

Zacharý

Why not ⧋

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder In principle you could screen scrape the Dyalog Linux binaries from TIO…

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám ?

Adám

5:33 PM

@Zacharý Because ∆_ preserves the number of characters.

Zacharý

Sorry, I meant ⍙. Stupid unicode look-alikes.

Erik the Outgolfer

again same reason(?)

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder The entire Dyalog setup is on TIO, so you could cat all the files and copy-paste them into an editor, save, and you have Linux Dyalog APL for free (=stolen).

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Why would you ping me? And why do we talk about APL, I don't even know APL

I was saying I'm done editing my sandbox post.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám 128k limit

Adám

5:36 PM

@Mr.Xcoder I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought it was a response to my msg.

@EriktheOutgolfer cat pieces. (gory!)

Erik the Outgolfer

hmm...I love slicing cats for free especially if they're nuisance only

totallyhuman

o0

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer You are too sadistic.

Erik the Outgolfer

well there's the reward behind, I can't just refrain from it just for a few cats ;)

totallyhuman

hey do any filesystems allow for commata to be in the file extension?

blah.,,,

Erik the Outgolfer

5:38 PM

what?

they should

it's operating systems which may not allow them

totallyhuman

oh ye my bad

Dennis

@Christopher Sure, but what does it do?

Mr. Xcoder

Regarding cats, how do you make your computer literally pronounce "Meow"?

totallyhuman

lol

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder Stick it in a band saw.

totallyhuman

5:40 PM

@Dennis explanation?

i already know how jelly works is magic but...

Dennis

Yes, that's what I'm asking for.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám I though about running a Mac ~~Bash~~ Terminal program: say "Meow"...

Erik the Outgolfer

probably some weird a behavior

Dennis

@Dennis yeah good point. Anyway you like my jelly code? — Christopher 11 mins ago

@EriktheOutgolfer Weird? Jelly? Never!

Erik the Outgolfer

I mean, look 'ma, weird jelly!

Mr. Xcoder

5:42 PM

@Dennis No, not even the language itself is weird, no, never...

totallyhuman

*goes to atoms page*

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer "Shut up and eat it, son!"

Erik the Outgolfer

probably vectorization stuff

totallyhuman

m Modular; return every y th element of x. If y is zero, mirror: prepend x to its reverse.

Erik the Outgolfer

(bleh who thought ldepth=0 was a good idea it should've implemented some special depth)

totallyhuman

5:43 PM

a Logical AND. Vectorizes with depth 0.

g Greatest common divisor (GCD, HCF).

i Find the first index of element y in list x, or 0.

c Combinations; compute xCy.

Erik the Outgolfer

and the c is the most complex

ninja'd :/

totallyhuman

tfw you still don't get what it does

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman That's me :/

Erik the Outgolfer

guys it's so trivial

totallyhuman

@EriktheOutgolfer we don't know jelly

:P

Erik the Outgolfer

5:45 PM

sorry can't think in alternate universe

totallyhuman

hmm there are alternate universes in the multiverse (if that's true) where people can't think

Erik the Outgolfer

I'm just human why you expect me to teleport think?

totallyhuman

ok lemme try and break it down

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman The universe where Java is the best golfing language... I cannot think of it...

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder BLEEEEEH!

totallyhuman

5:46 PM

all of them are dyads

Erik the Outgolfer

yes true...

totallyhuman

so where do m and c get the other argument from?

Erik the Outgolfer

and then each dyad does something and passes the returned result to the next

@totallyhuman there's a little something in many golfing languages called implicit input (sorry I'm from other universe can't think into universe where nobody knows jelly :P)

totallyhuman

oh ok

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer I can't think into a universe where I know Jelly :P

Erik the Outgolfer

5:49 PM

there are rumors that going into my universe is too hard or something?! :P

totallyhuman

every_yth_element_of_x(input(), dunno)

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer I could do it through a black hole (learn Pyth first)

totallyhuman

where dunno is...

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman magic!

Erik the Outgolfer

input() of course what did you expect I just don't get it...

totallyhuman

5:50 PM

@Mr.Xcoder no it's actually agic :P

Erik the Outgolfer

people please! you're making fun of Jelly but you're gonna eat revenge

totallyhuman

we've already eaten revenge from jelly :P

Lembik

hi.. could someone help me please. I want to use discrete_log which is listed here docs.sympy.org/dev/modules/ntheory.html but it doesn't seem to exist in sympy 1.0. How can I access that discrete_log function?

Erik the Outgolfer

update your software

totallyhuman

use sympy <version that has discrete_log> :P

Mr. Xcoder

5:52 PM

@totallyhuman countless times actually

totallyhuman

ooh i can make my message bigger

Lembik

@totallyhuman I tried pip install sympy -U --pre

but that didn't help

@EriktheOutgolfer how do you upgrade to a dev version?

@totallyhuman how! :)

totallyhuman

by using <these tags> apparently

Erik the Outgolfer

@Lembik well...

totallyhuman

makes my messages taller

:o both martin and dennis are on the starboard

is it going to explode?

Erik the Outgolfer

5:54 PM

I don't see either

totallyhuman

2 hours ago, by Martin Ender

you could have tried a bit harder with the tags ;)

Erik the Outgolfer

those are trichoplax and mego

totallyhuman

12 hours ago, by Dennis

I searched for Jelly, 4 bytes user:me.

Erik the Outgolfer

do you have very tall resolution?

totallyhuman

@EriktheOutgolfer no actually very small

Erik the Outgolfer

5:55 PM

1366x768 neither of them are visible

totallyhuman

are you in other rooms?

i have 1366x768 as well

Erik the Outgolfer

yes

totallyhuman

that explains it

Erik the Outgolfer

hmm...yeah I just clicked see more

totallyhuman

whoops

Downgoat

5:59 PM

Poll: do you have python2 installed?

totallyhuman

uninstalling on linux breaks a lot of stuff

Erik the Outgolfer

anything preinstalled with linux better stays there

Lembik

@Downgoat yes I do :)

Dennis

@totallyhuman Not all Linux distros come with Python 2 by default. Fedora 25 doesn't.

Mr. Xcoder

How should one read a list as input in Pyth?

Phoenix

6:04 PM

@Dennis ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I ended up with Python 2 within minutes, perhaps as a dependency of some package I installed.

totallyhuman

@Dennis ubuntu has a million dependents on python o0

Dennis

Probably, yes.

It shows RedHat's efforts to finally make Python 2 obsolete though. Outside of code golf, there's really no ~~excuse~~ reason to use it anymore.

totallyhuman

mm but that's hard to make happen

@totallyhuman weird sentence construction

Dennis

It's a long process, but not really hard. All core packages of Fedora 25 have been ported to Python 3. It's only a matter of time before the rest falls in line.

Zacharý

Why do I like Fortress? ι(n)=array⟦ℤ32⟧(n).fill(fn(x)⇒x) or repl.it/JOy4/2, which one looks better?

New Main Posts

6:11 PM

1

Q: Compare the averages of my lists

Getting the average of a list (e.g [2,6,7]) Get the length of the list: [2,6,7] -> 3 Sum the umbers in the list: 2 + 6 + 7 = 15. Divide the sum by their count: 15 / 3 = 5. You should compare the averages of two lists of positive integers N and M, by returning a value if N has a higher averag...

Phoenix

@Dennis Sadly Fedora isn't the only distro out there, you have those like CentOS which don't have Python 3.

Dennis

Which is also RedHat, so I suspect it to gradually obsolete Python 2 in the next releases.

Phoenix

They don't even have Python 3 in the repos. Switching Python 2 to 3 would be a pretty huge change.

Step Hen

@Dennis Is there a reason it's taken nearly 10 years for this to start?

Dennis

Don't ask me.

totallyhuman

6:15 PM

the quine challenge on ppcg is under-specified

Downgoat

Question: is there native way to unzip (.zip file -> folder) in python?

totallyhuman

is trailing whitespace allowed?

or wait... maybe i should check the standard quine rules

Dennis

Output and code must match byte per byte.

Newly Featured Questions

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Q: Write program which verifies Erdős–Straus conjecture

Write program, which verifies Erdős–Straus conjecture. Program should take as input one integern (3 <= n <= 1 000 000) and print triple of integers satisfying identity 4/n = 1/x + 1/y + 1/z, 0 < x < y < z. Shortest code wins. Some examples: 3 => {1, 4, 12} 4 => {2, 3, 6} 5 => {2, 4, 20} 1009 =>...

code-golf math number-theory

Downgoat

@Dennis does this mean I should not write install script in python2 :|

totallyhuman

6:18 PM

hmm then

the quine in common lisp out-golfs my golfing language?!

Dennis

@Downgoat That's exactly what it means, yes.

totallyhuman

is this a valid quine?

Zacharý

LOL.

Downgoat

@Dennis :/ well not everyone has python3 so brb writing in node.js :P

totallyhuman

not everybody has node..?

Dennis

6:20 PM

@Downgoat Writing Python code that runs in both isn't exactly difficult.

Zacharý

Just use parens, list() around some stuff, and a try-catch for input.

totallyhuman

oh you need to deal with the imports as well

Downgoat

@totallyhuman I have a node app (VSL) which has a 'subapp' (vsl-bindgen) which is written in C++ so I want to have vsl bindgen install install & make vsl-bindgen which is where difficulty comes from. but anyway I can assume they already have node instaleld

Zacharý

from __future__ is the solution you seek...

Downgoat

also Python does not have package manager like NPM where you can do npm i and get all deps, which really sucks

Erik the Outgolfer

6:22 PM

why not just make a function like this one?

def version():
    try:
        raw_input
        return 2
    except:
        return 3

of course it assumes you haven't set anything to raw_input

Step Hen

Quick question: can you theoretically do import * in Python, and if so, why don't people do that for golfing

Downgoat

@Zacharý well i need to also download & unzip a the download and those capabilities seem to be limit to python3

Erik the Outgolfer

@StepHen no

Downgoat

@StepHen no throws syntax error

Erik the Outgolfer

it's syntax error

Dennis

6:24 PM

@Downgoat Sure it does. Don't you know pip?

Downgoat

@Dennis yea you have to do one by one

trying to automate and seem to overcomplicate if I am installing things here and there globally

Zacharý

I've attempted making code compatible with Python 0.9.1, Python 2, and Python 3.

Erik the Outgolfer

is python 0 a thing? o_o

Lembik

hmm... I think I am being really dumb. discrete_log says "Compute the discrete logarithm of a to the base b modulo n" So if n = 7 and we want the discrete log of 2**3 with the base of 2 shouldn't we get 3 ?

Zacharý

Python0.9.1 is found on a part of the python site that I can't remember...
Multiplication doesn't work ...

Erik the Outgolfer

6:27 PM

python.org/download/releases/early

Downgoat

Question: does windows have make command or some way to execute makefile?

Phoenix

@Downgoat Not without MinGW or Cygwin

Lembik

I use cygwin and it's really annoying

if can avoid it, please do

Phoenix

Although some programs come with their own make, it's still usually MinGW's make.

Downgoat

is there anyway to compile a C++ project then on windows?

Lembik

6:28 PM

visual C++?

Phoenix

Microsoft's Visual C++ uses their own format iirc, and it's not Make.

@Downgoat Basically, download Visual Studio.

Downgoat

can you link me to relevent resource?

Lembik

or use ubuntu in windows :)

which is what I also do

Phoenix

visualstudio.com/vs

Downgoat

@Phoenix :O idea: precompile for windows

brb

Zacharý

6:29 PM

@Downgoat I've done that before.

Dennis

@EriktheOutgolfer Why not sys.version_info.major?

DJMcMayhem

@EriktheOutgolfer Eww. Try import sys; sys.version

Oh wow, ninja'd

Zacharý

Too straightforward.

Phoenix

@Downgoat Were you trying to ship software that users had to build themseleves..?

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem you mean __import__('sys').version :P

DJMcMayhem

6:30 PM

Eww

Phoenix

That doesn't work out well, especially not with C++

Downgoat

wait wtf __import__ is actually a thing O_O

Zacharý

Yeah, it is.

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem import sys;lambda:int(sys.version[0])

Downgoat

hm they need clang installed though

DJMcMayhem

6:31 PM

@Downgoat If you didn't know that was a thing, Why'd you recommend it?

Phoenix

@Downgoat Most people on Windows do not have clang.

Downgoat

I joke about __print__("python 123") and __init__ etc.

Phoenix

@Downgoat Isn't it?

Zacharý

You know what they need to do ... not use windows, honestly.

Dennis

@Zacharý Fine. lambda:3+int(-1/2)

totallyhuman

6:32 PM

:3

Phoenix

@Downgoat My Linux doesn't even have clang

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat __print__("foo") doesn't work

ckjbgames

hi

Downgoat

Since Clang is a dependency, I can just add a clang.dll right?

question: does anyone know where dll go in window for an executable

ckjbgames

Just made an unreasonably complicated question

It's in the sandbox

@Downgoat context

Downgoat

6:34 PM

docs say "GetSystemDirectory" but ;_; i don't have windows to see what that is

Zacharý

I realized that if someone from __future__ import s something before they run my interpreter ... it might break.

Step Hen

@Zacharý If you're gonna chose between Python 2 and Python 3, why pick Python 2

Zacharý

Never mind, I was just misremembering how I implemented it.
I didn't choose. I have compatibility between both.

ckjbgames

@StepHen When you're golfing, it can make printing shorter by 1 byte

Step Hen

@ckjbgames *when writing an interpreter

ckjbgames

6:36 PM

@StepHen oh. idk

Zacharý

And of course the big ones: mixing spaces and tabs, not having to put list(...) around every map, filter, and you have reduce.

ckjbgames

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Make a Quiz Parser code-golfparsing Your task is to create a program that will take an input of multiple 4-choice questions (A, B, C, D) in the format shown below, display each question (format also shown below) and its 4 answer choices, get the user's answer to each question, and, at the end of...

@Zacharý True.

Phoenix

@Downgoat You could bundle a Cmake installer and run it automatically if Cmake isn't detected.

Zacharý

Anyone know a codepage where the byte 00 encodes the character 0?

Phoenix

why..?

New Sandboxed Posts

6:41 PM

1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Make a Quiz Parser code-golfparsing Your task is to create a program that will take an input of multiple 4-choice questions (A, B, C, D) in the format shown below, display each question (format also shown below) and its 4 answer choices, get the user's answer to each question, and, at the end of...

musicman523

When golfing, yes pick Python 2 almost all the time. When writing real code I'd usually go for Python 3 but it's really up to preference

Step Hen

@Zacharý well for 8 bits ints that's how it is, right? but that's not what you're asking

totallyhuman

*throws sand at NSP*

Zacharý

For the golfing language (MY). 00 pushes 0 to the stack.

Phoenix

@Zacharý What can I say, make your own codepage.

ckjbgames

6:45 PM

@Zacharý Those can often be shortened with an [<expression with x> for x in spam] statement

@Zacharý what does 001 do, then?

Step Hen

@Zacharý Who would mix tabs and spaces in real code

@ckjbgames It's hexadecimal, 001 doesn't exist, it's 01

Zacharý

(HEX) 01 pushes 1.

musicman523

Is it acceptable to post two answers in the same language if I outgolf my old answer in a completely different way?

Or should I simply edit away the old answer?

Or, add the new solution to the old answer?

ckjbgames

@StepHen right

Phoenix

@musicman523 Yes

Step Hen

6:50 PM

@musicman523 All three work, I would suggest against the second though

Phoenix

No one really does it, but there isn't anything wrong with it.

musicman523

I think I'll go with the third, thanks both of you

ckjbgames

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Make a Quiz Parser code-golfparsing Your task is to create a program that will take an input of multiple 4-choice questions (A, B, C, D) in the format shown below, display each question (format also shown below) and its 4 answer choices, get the user's answer to each question, and, at the end of...

Feedback?

musicman523

This was the offending answer if you're interested

ckjbgames

Glitched image time!

New Sandboxed Posts

6:55 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Ninjas in a Chat Log code-golf (other tags?) Often in chat, someone will ask a question, and multiple people will answer it at the same time. Usually, the person who was beaten to the gun will say "ninja'd", creating even more unnecessary chat. Given a chat log similar to the following: Commu...

ckjbgames

cool

Zacharý

Does this spam normally happen?

@Zacharý What spam?

Sandbox posts.

how is that spam?

6:57 PM

Well you aren't usually supposed to onebox your own Sandbox post twice within 30 minutes of your posting (in addition to NSP) but other than that it's normalish

Zacharý

Sorry... was combining both @ckjbgames and the New Sandbox Post feeds

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