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20:04
lel
@StephenS half 10k and other half at 20k
25k is site stats
now I really want 25k
@Riker ._. I can see site stat at only 19k reps
on grad sites w/ design
still at 5k for PPCG cuz no design
@Riker Yesterdays /r/redditdayof obscure sports is amazing=)
lol
will look @ later
20:08
it's so stupid how a visual design infers increased reputation requirements
graduation is more than a visual design on the SE side of things
graduation doesn't imply design
design implies rep requirements
stupid 10/10
What does graduation do then?
nothing
well it removes the little "beta" text but that's it
it removes "beta", it allows migration, it allows community ads, it assures that the site won't be closed...basically little stuff
first and last one shouldn't be counted
20:12
I believe it allows you to get onto HNQ?
I think community ads arlready existed
and no @Phoenix we could always hit hnq
no even betas get into hnq
ninja'd
@Riker they are enabled only upon graduation I think
huh, apparently not
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Q: Place a glider!

DJMcMayhemThis: is a Glider. In Conway's Game of Life, the glider is a famous pattern that slowly traverses across the board. For today's challenge, we are going to draw an ASCII art Game of Life Board, and place a glider on it. The board we are starting with is this: |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| |_|_|_|_|_...

20:15
That was fast
too fast imo
@EriktheOutgolfer what??
Thank you @newmainposts! We don't appreciate you enough around here, so good job for all your hard work. :)
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you can't ping him like that...
I know.
20:16
@DJMcMayhem lel
when I was young and immature I did that a lot to annoy people
@Riker uh oh umm o_O umm ew dat eugh
@totallyhuman ?
@EriktheOutgolfer see above msg
@Riker 45 thankyou's out of 1.3k mentions
Most of them along the lines of you're broken
20:17
around 1 percent
Score: Riker 38, Adnan 5, Bassdrop Cumberwubwubwub 1
lol
No wonder they're slow sometimes when we're all mean to it constantly.
@ETHproductions DJ 1 too
search is slow a bit
20:18
I don't want a site design
The userscript is good enough and I don't want the rep requirements to go up
Right now, there is a low barrier of entry and I feel like it helps build a sense of community
I strongly disagree. I really want a site design badly
^^
With the site design, many privileges will be lost and I think that will cause issues
@Mendeleev not forever
besides it's not like earning rep is harder
20:19
@DJMcMayhem You would have all the privileges anyway, you have enough rep.
solution: just earn more rep
There's already lots of high rep users who can handle it.
@Mendeleev what's stopping you from becoming that though
@Riker People downvoting my questions for no reason
> no reason
20:20
> no reason
it's a really dumb/bad question
@Mendeleev I know, but that has no effect on whether I want a site design.
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Q: Divide one number by another

MendeleevChallenge Given two numbers, output their quotient. In other words, integer divide one number by another. Both divisor/dividend will be under 10001. Division must be performed using integer division, rounding down. Here are some example inputs and outputs: 5 1 5 -4 2 -2...

that's why
@DJMcMayhem That's true.
However, it does on me.
20:20
I can't tell you the reason for the other downvotes, but mine is because I firmly believe that trivial questions like this are bad for the site. — Peter Taylor Mar 31 at 20:45
nothing to see here folks
move along
My fear is that we will get a site design and it's worse than the userscript one, and it breaks the userscript.
@Phoenix well ofc it's gonna break the userscript
it can prolly be fixed pretty easily though
@Mendeleev again, nothing stops you from earning more rep
Can we have the site design without the rep requirements increase?
20:22
Right, but why bother? We have an actual design.
@Mendeleev nope
@Riker Why?
@Mendeleev Yeah, install the userscript :P
@Phoenix That you have to go out of your way to install
@Phoenix I have it already.
20:22
@Mendeleev cause that's the way it works?
I'd much rather have an official design
SE is not going to make that change
@DJMcMayhem You don't, you just install an extension and click a button
@Mendeleev that's out of the way >_>
@Riker They're making lots of changes already, I've heard that they're adding a byte count field.
20:23
^^
This would be trivial in comparison
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A: Test if two numbers are equal

Comrade SparklePonyPython 2, 15 bytes lambda x,y:x==y Try it online!

4 downvotes
The privilige levels are in dire need of adjustment, IMO, especially ones like voting to close and reopen, where there's far too much misuse already.
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No comments
It's simply too trivial
@Doorknob It's fine as it is
20:25
@Mendeleev you've had massive amounts of comments in the past
@Riker I meant this one challenge
it's not our job to comment "this is too trivial" on half the quesitons you post
8 downvotes.
No explanation.
if you didn't learn the 4th time you're unlikely to learn the 5th time
That's because you linked it.
20:25
@Mendeleev Well, if you really want to know, here's my reason for downvoting.
If a new user posted this, what would they think about the community?
@Mendeleev if a new user posted it, they'd get a lot more feedback
yo should know better though
@Mendeleev Here's a counter question: If a new user came to the site and saw that comparing two numbers is a "challenge", what would they think of the site?
Why did the add and multiply get so many upvotes then?
adding is nontrivial in many languages
20:26
I don't know. I don't like those ones either TBH. But they were well written and comprehensive.
same with multiplication
@Mendeleev not hard at all in sed o-O
same with retina
Or like my radiation hardened cyclic mutual quine got 0 votes and a few comments
Not trivial at all
@Mendeleev subtraction and division were downvoted for 1. being trivial in most languages. 2. being a trivial modification of addition/multiplication in most languages
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Q: Test if two numbers are equal

MendeleevChallenge Input two decimal integers. If the integers are equal, output a truthy value. Otherwise, output a falsy value. Clarifications You will never receive non-integer inputs. You will never receive an input that is outside the bounds (-2³¹, 2³¹). Rules Standard loopholes are disallo...

@Mendeleev also hard and kinda boring
20:28
And FWIW:
@NewMainPosts on another note I think that's a record for lowest scored non-deleted post posted by NMP
@Riker Division =/= multiplication in a lot of esolangs, which the challenge was primarily aimed at
@Riker I did not post subtraction. That would be a dupe of addition.
@DJMcMayhem I can't see that image.
somebody did I thought
It's an image of me downvoting it
20:29
@Mendeleev shows him downvoting add 2 numbers
ninja'ed
ah
why?
......
have you been paying attention in this conversation?
BRB posting "Find the negative of a number"
don't plz
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Q: Negate a number

PyRulezYou are to accept, on standard input, one number. You will then output the negation of that number. Your code will do nothing else. You may accept various formats if you wish (like "one" or ("uno+2.4e10i"). You may also output it how ever you wish. Note that these formats mush have existed somewh...

@Riker The addition challenge was original and was mostly positively recieved
20:31
What's considered truthy/falsy in BF? Could I output a string of null chars for falsy and a string containing a non-null for truthy?
huh, actually somewhat interesting
a code-bowling one
@ETHproductions yes I think so
@Mendeleev 1/4 of the votes were downvotes
that's a C
@Riker That's a , would a be a dupe?
nope just related
@Mendeleev It would not be a dupe, but it would be boring.
brb posting
20:32
(And I'd certainly downvote it)
@Mendeleev I really hope you're joking.
@DJMcMayhem Yes.
I'm about to write "create a directory", would this be considered boring?
yes
To change the topic slightly, would it be bad form to post the first answer on my newest challenge?
@Mendeleev yes
20:33
it's prolly impossible in 90% of esolangs
How long would you recommend waiting?
and trivial with imported builtins/builtins in most standard languages
@DJMcMayhem Calling it: V? :)
(Anyway, I've done that before.)
How'd you know? :P
@DJMcMayhem depends on the lang
in V, go for it whenever you want
20:34
@Mendeleev Have you considered posting a nontrivial challenge?
1 hour ago, by DJMcMayhem
38 bytes: Try it online!
in something like python, it may be better to wait (or a similarly popular language)
@Phoenix I did
It was mostly ignored
What was it?
Personally, I don't think this really adds much to the semiquine and radiation-hardening quine challenges we've already had; both categories have already been thrown together in so many combinations that it's extremely hard to come up with a truly original combination. — ETHproductions 19 hours ago
> few comments
it has 11
that's not a few
20:37
Wow, I just threw together an algorithm in BF in an answer and it worked the first time I plugged it into TIO \o/
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@Riker Done
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A: Place a glider!

DJMcMayhemV, 31 bytes 11é_r|10ÄÀGjjÀ|3r*kr*kh.Í*ü_/|& Try it online! Hexdump: 00000000: 3131 e95f 727c 3130 c4c0 476a 6ac0 7c33 11._r|10..Gjj.|3 00000010: 722a 6b72 2a6b 682e cd2a fc5f 2f7c 26 r*kr*kh..*._/|& This takes input as program arguments, and 1-indexed.

what why would you respond to an answer link with a link
20:39
Link
Because you asked for a link.
>_>
how would thee know of such things
@Riker I'm sorry. Is this a better link?
lel
@DJMcMayhem Link is blocked ;-;
it's a link
20:41
That is true.
that's all you need to know
It is also not useful information, given the context.
It's a chain link
risky click of the day
phew
@DJMcMayhem hey spoilers!
20:50
@FrenchSpeakers: what does "limaçon" mean?
I know it's a math thing but apparently it means "cochlea" or "escargot" in french (according to google translate, which I don't really trust)
@Riker Bing translate says snail
Which seems about right, given what a limaçon is.
^
but cochlea?
@Phoenix and why would you ever trust bing translate
I trust that way less than google
oh:
> The cochlea /ˈkɒk.liə/ (Ancient Greek: κοχλίας, kōhlias, meaning spiral or snail shell)
makes more sense now
So it seems that Bing was more correct this time :P
@Phoenix Impossible!
20:54
@Riker In all seriousness I wouldn't, but I was curious if the translation you found was consistent across engines.
> The term derives from the French word limaçon, which means "snail" (Latin limax).
--Wikipedia
@Riker No, that's accurate
Bing isn't better than Google :P escargot is French for snail
@MDXF What about strings like "aaaaa"?
@Adnan :(
21:01
0
Q: Does the nth char equal the nth from last char?

Stephen SInspired by Does the start equal the end Given a string s and an integer n, output a truthy/falsey as to whether the nth char in s equals the nth from the end char in s. Input A non-empty string and an integer. You can use 0-based indexing or 1-based indexing. The integer is guaranteed to be v...

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Q: Let us create a sonnet quine!

PyRulezThere are programs that will output its source code to standard output and do nothing else. They also access no external output. This type of program is known as a quine, and is a common code challenge. There are poems that have the rhyme scheme a-b-a-b, c-d-c-d, e-f-e-f, g-g. They have 14 lines...

@NewlyFeaturedQuestions wait, a question from two years ago is now featured?
Just means someone posted a bounty
people want solutions in their own cool new language most likely
Wait, I thought featured meant HNQ
my bad
21:10
Nope
If you're thinking of HNQ, then yes, they are rarely more than a fortnight old
@totallyhuman oh nvm ^^
How do you reply to your own message?
@MDXF You click the permalink to determine message ID, then put :<id> at the start of your message
Ah
Thanks
21:13
or you use caret-reply
@muddyfish How so?
The ID of this message is...
@totallyhuman see? :3
@ETHproductions 37788613
@MDXF also for your C answer that you deleted (strfry or smth): you can't take inpt from a variable like that
21:14
Right, or caret-reply
you can just use strfry though
@MDXF Yeah that's a fun cheat
@MDXF How can you even objectively define rhythm?
@muddyfish Oh true
@Riker What do you mean?
your answer is just strfry
you can't assume the input is stored in s
21:15
I know
Oh
yes
regardless of the validity of strfry("1")
Wait then why is this valid:
code in separate message
f(char*s){/*do something with s*/}
main(){char*s="this is allowed";f(s)}
?
@muddyfish Either way, it can't be closed, it has a bounty
@MDXF not without mod intervention
21:17
Then ping a mod
@MDXF How does that work? The compiler implies the s in f(s) to be an int, and you're passing it a char*
@Phoenix Most compilers don't care
Right, but it casts the char* to an int, which I don't see being useful for golfing, ever.
It was an accident anyway. Edited
Well, now it's a complete program, so it's valid, yeah.
21:19
Oh wait, nvm I see
Also did any of you downvote this? A DV with no explanation is unhelpful
I think you need an #include for that to work
Maybe not IDK C
You don't
In this case, pretty much no compilers care
As long as it's linking properly (which it does on its own) it doesn't mind if you implicitly call functions
TIO's GCC C++ requires stdio.h included for printf, but not GCC C
For some reason
Yeah, that's 'cause C++ is obnoxious
Arguably that's an improvement over C. Leads to better code.
21:23
* C++ is obnoxious for code golfing
but it's generally obnoxious anyway
My only significant golfing was in C++. It's a beautiful language
kotlin is so slow on tio
Yep
Ceylon is worse
15 secs for hello world iirc
Nope, just 12.5
We're really not sure why that is.
o0
i just accidentally pasted my kotlin code in my go answer
10/10
21:32
both languages that do not belong here
@trichoplax Link?
330
Q: Tweetable Mathematical Art

Kyle McCormickInteger math can generate amazing patterns when laid out over a grid. Even the most basic functions can yield stunningly elaborate designs! Your challenge Write 3 Tweetable (meaning 140 characters or less) function bodies for the red, green, and blue values for a 1024x1024 image. The input to ...

The various answers there (I think I made 5)
No 6
inquestion:35569 user:20283
My favourite of my own was the action painting which was a group effort
votes:answers -12:21, seems legit
21:36
@trichoplax Man, I wish that hadn't been closed
I'd've loved to do that
It was great fun while it lasted but I agree with the close reason. It was too open ended
Yeah... like what qualifies as "mathematical art"?
I like putting it in order of oldest first to see how answers developed over time
Yeah I think the author was expecting just a few simple mathematical patterns. Not raytraced spheres...
I don't really understand why the author made that C++ requirement
It would've been just as unclear without it :P
I think Mathematica would be the right tool for the job in that challenge.
21:42
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

thecoder16Smart Split! We all know that most programming languages have a split() function, to split a string into an array of pieces. However, for all languages that I know of, you have a provide a separator as an input. Challenge Create a function that takes in one string input, and returns an array o...

@Phoenix If it's tagged or Mathematica is always the right tool for the job
Well, if it's just tagged , the right tool for the job is likely MATL
Unless it's Jelly
CMC: given n, calculate the longest sequence of concurrent primes which sums to n.
What should output be?
An array of primes? Two numbers representing the range from the nth to the mth prime?
Either way, Mathematica, some bytes: Solve[(*Code here*)==#,{n,m}]$
@DJMcMayhem @Phoenix imgur.com/gallery/34xU4
21:50
Any way you feel comfortable as long as it accurately represents those primes.
What is a concurrent prime?
@ATaco Solve[Total@Prime/@Range[n,m]==#,{n,m}]$, if I understand what you're asking.
I wonder what language Prettify decided that was.
No idea, on my phone
Hm, I can save a byte by replacing Total@ with Add@@, I think.
Or I could use the Sum builtin, I suppose
22:04
Jelly, 9 bytes. ÆRẆS=¥ÐfṪ
Also, $ at the end should be &
And I'm pretty sure the tail isn't needed
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

MD XFDisplay randomly colored pixels code-golf graphical-output I've always liked screens full of randomly colored pixels. They're interesting to look at and the programs that draw them are fun to watch. The challenge Fill the screen with colored pixels. Don't stop reading here, read the rules. You...

@Phoenix Definitely not mathematica :P
I think I just rep capped again
22:16
:D
Nice
Those covfefe memes are hot right now
covfefe?
(the tweet) stayed up for hours
also spicy is pretending it is a real word
22:20
My environmental science teacher had some kind of nervous breakdown this morning...
"Covfefe" is a word coined, possibly inadvertently, by U.S. President Donald Trump on May 31, 2017, when he sent a message from his iPhone's Twitter app, which read, "Despite the constant negative press covfefe". The apparently incomplete tweet was liked and retweeted hundreds of thousands of times, making it one of the most popular tweets of 2017, as people speculated on the meaning of "covfefe". By 5:48 AM ET, the tweet was deleted, and at 6:09 AM ET, Trump's account tweeted, "Who can figure out the true meaning of 'covfefe' ??? Enjoy!" == Reaction == Reaction to the tweet spawned numer...
its so nice to see a new wikipedia article being born
> "perhaps" inadvertently
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Q: Create a Muriel-like language and implementation

PyRulezMuriel is a language where the only way to loop is to create a quine and execute it. Your job is to create your own language with this property and an implementation of it. We will define a Muriel-like language like as follows: It has a built-in command for executing code in its own language, ...

> During the May 31 White House press briefing, Hunter Walker of Yahoo! News asked White House press secretary Sean Spicer about the tweet and if there was any concern about the president sending out "incoherent" tweets that stay up for hours. Spicer responded, "The president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant" and would offer no other explanation.
@DestructibleLemon I thought it was supposed to be "coverage""
22:23
nope, it was not a typo, apparently
if you trust spicy
anyway this conversation should stop before it all gets trashed
that would be sad
@ASCII-only why so many edits
Because ATaco's userscript is being annoying
What
Covfefe is on Wikipedia now?
@Mendeleev it'll probably get deleted
@DestructibleLemon It's actually a pretty good article
@Mendeleev it's not about the article
22:45
How would people react if I brought back ;#
@totallyhuman maybe if you work covfefe into it somehow...
@totallyhuman What is that?
@Mendeleev It's a memelang
; increments the accumulator, # outputs it as an ascii value and resets it to 0
# outputs as ascii mod 127, in particular
Come to think of, the "add a language to a polyglot" challenge is a constant output challenge, and doesn't have to be answered by a programming language
It could be answered in ;#

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