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12:05 AM

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Q: Why is the no deadline bounties post not featured?

List of bounties with no deadline That post is not featured for some reason and I am wondering why? It is a very useful and important community post. I think it should be perm featured like sandbox. (I know that in sandbox people keep going back to retexture it). But still. Shouldn't it be featu...

@DJMcMayhem pull pls

@Riker Huh?

Destructible Watermelon

has @Riker made new language called pls?

@DJMcMayhem I think maybe he mean to ping Dennis and accientally you because both username start with D

Well, he did just fork one of my repos, but I don't see any PRs

12:19 AM

@DJMcMayhem I made PR?

github.com/DJMcMayhem/ThePeoplesPython/pull/5

@Downgoat no I meant to ping DJ but good guess

@flawr amen

lol @Downgoat thanks for the responses/comments

How to match a literal backslash with regex in Java: \\\\

Destructible Watermelon

ok um

I left dwarf fortress running in the background and now my dining room/tavern is filling with water O.o

lol

okay @Riker @KritixiLithos (anyone else?) who can beta test my github app I think I got working online install link here: link

Destructible Watermelon

I probably should have seen this coming too

I think subconsciously I wanted this to happen

12:22 AM

@Riker Oh, huh it didn't show up in my notifications

hm

@Downgoat woot

I'll try to test in a minute 1 sec

(sorry for all pings)

lel idc

very little done but making progress quick

Destructible Watermelon

ok how do I try to save my dorfs? anybody got any ideas?

12:23 AM

also, I'd like to request to try not to exhaust API quota :P

oh no that version crashes D:

@DestructibleWatermelon ya dont

@Downgoat D:

shit brb fixing

lel

Destructible Watermelon

ok, not much water gets through the door, but my dumb dorfs keep opening the door...

forbidding now

@DestructibleWatermelon yeah they're dumb like that

Destructible Watermelon

12:27 AM

actually I've unforbidden it just for the lols

@DJMcMayhem ... can you merge :P

giving me write access would also be nice if you could

... I have no idea why is not wokring it worked before

> -- trouble ahead

10/10 best error message

(?=trouble)

._. I wasn't connected to internet, that's why it wasn't working

user165474

Anyone know how to get Linux Mint KDE to set the JVM back to 1.8? I updated the system earlier and now it's at 1.9, but I don't have 1.9 installed.

12:41 AM

Install 1.9

It'll be fun

user165474

k

@Downgoat chedr?

@Riker No swift

okay fixed bug... reuploading

@Riker Not at computer >_<

ah k

@Downgoat install app now?

12:47 AM

I'm very pleased with how RProgN2 is coming together.

@Riker I'll have to get new link lemme uploda

kk

@Riker also, basically only repo and your profile listing work. Mostly what needs to be tested is A) error handling and B) login

ah okay

@Riker @KritixiLithos sorry for broken link, here is fixed one: i.diawi.com/m1WSCM

lemme know if it works

user165474

12:52 AM

great now my java 8 doesn't work either ;_;

"gitgoat cannot be installed at this time"

@Downgoat

user165474

darn it, I put the two arguments for ln in the wrong way

user165474

Now I just deleted my Java 8 JRE.

okay, try going to Settings > general and to bottom, do you see a "developer" or "profiles" or "device management" section

checking

@Downgoat @ConorO'Brien

sorry ckb didn't mean to ping you

oh wait don't have xcode on this mac

12:56 AM

@Riker same

@Downgoat sorry, something came up, will test later

that's okay, will take me some time to wrestle with weird apple distribution system

ah ok

@AlexL. No you weren't actually supposed to get Java 9

I'm working on a new programming language in GH, anyone wants to do it with me?

12:58 AM

It's the sketchy early alpha to end all sketchy early alphas

(Probs helka, he pinged me about it)

No large project will run on it normally.

user165474

@Pavel I know, it's not stable yet, but my system updater decided it would be a good idea to try to get it, so now I need to manually set it back.

It's fun to mess around with, I suppose.

user165474

I suppose, yes.

user165474

1:02 AM

But it's now my default JRE, which means I can't run Minecraft :P

I got Minecraft to work on Java 9

It was slow and crashed often

user165474

oh

user165474

Well, my Java 9 JRE isn't installed properly, so it can't even create the VM.

did really no one even like this? youtube.com/watch?v=NMKOY9hZEd8&feature=youtu.be I think it's insanely impressive

sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk

@orlp It's cool, liked it.

I think a lot of people were at work when you posted that, so youtube might not have been possible what with the whole audio thing.

user165474

1:07 AM

hahaha I fixed it by using the hackiest solution ever

user165474

(probably not the hackiest)

Anyone recommend me of the name of my new stack-based 3D rendering programming language?

@AlexL. Eh, what'd you do?

@MatthewRoh 3D rendering? Wut.

@MatthewRoh 3d rendering as in minecraft or as in unrestricted real vectors?

Hmm

user165474

1:09 AM

Download the RPM, use alien to turn it into a .deb, run the package installer, and then use sudo ln to link wherever which java is to the file in etc/alternatives and then link that to the new file.

@orlp Unrestricted real vectors

@AlexL. You symlinked Java 9 to Java 8?

user165474

@Pavel No, I just symlinked the thing to point to Java 8 instead of Java 9.

Ok. See, I already came up with a hackier solution than yours ^^

are you talking about JVM

1:15 AM

JRE

Okay then

user165474

@Pavel Sure, I could also symlink Java 9 to 8

youtube.com/watch?v=-9hLA0Xs12g worlds best saxophone play

(warning: flashing colors)

Dirty Bomb: Fragger Sax 10 Hour

you had a youtube channel?

1:20 AM

No, that's the official Dirty Bomb channel.

Just look at the profile pic

Yeah, I'm a DB fan

1:39 AM

I decided to set the name of my stack based 3D rendering programming language to Processtack

Does anyone here know Java?

I'm getting the strangest errors in miencraft

I technically know Java.

Copy paste error here

@wat I java, yes

Does anyone actually know java?

1:44 AM

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----

WARNING: coremods are present:
  CCLCorePlugin (CodeChickenLib-1.10.2-2.4.1.101-universal.jar)
Contact their authors BEFORE contacting forge

// Surprise! Haha. Well, this is awkward.

Time: 2/21/17 5:28 PM
Description: Initializing game

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/client/renderer/RenderItem
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:503)
	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:351)
	at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:124)

I remember this error, I don't remember the solution.

Great, that helps me a lot

Your code chicken core appears to be broken

It isn't fixable.

You have to reinstall it

Maybe I haven't been to Iceland because I'm busy dealing with YOUR crummy code.

LegionMammal978

I... I... I did it

I constructed a regular heptadecagon in a circle:

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D:

LegionMammal978

1:57 AM

With labels removed for clarity:

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@MatthewRoh ?

that looks very very hard

LegionMammal978

@MatthewRoh It took about an hour total

oh really

You used circles to make an almost circle.

I'm legitimately impressed.

LegionMammal978

And I had to look at this GIF many, many times:

user image

It's over a minute long, so I had 2 open

Staggered timewise

@ATaco Overall, the construction used 39 circles, 12 lines, the 2 points specifying the original circle, 46 intersection points, and 17 line segments

2:09 AM

@Okx Hey I just noticed that whatever script you used to update the indefinite bounties page flagged a link to user changed 1000000000's name to 4. I fixed the problem I just thought you might want to know.

LegionMammal978

@WheatWizard Wait, a script was written to update it automatically?

@LegionMammal978 I don't think so. I think he just ran a script across the entire thing to clean up the markdown. Then again I don't know.

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i think art has a time machine

Nah, GitHub is just dumb like that

LegionMammal978

@wat Either that, or timezone weirdness

Probably the latter

2:14 AM

in Open PPCG Minecraft Server, 34 secs ago, by ArtOfCode

Yes, and I will had have been told you about it when I did have had invented it.

or GH is sh*t

in Open PPCG Minecraft Server, 32 secs ago, by ArtOfCode

Using the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional tense, of course

Github is Fine....

@wat why is there even code for that...

to format it as "from"

don't know, it's likely just a part of a general time formatting library

2:22 AM

Github actually uses the local system time for commit times, which means you can make a new commit 30 years in the future or past by changing your computer's settings and Github wont question it.

LegionMammal978

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welp

It's been like that for the past several minutes

> Imgur overloaded. Send kittens - Mozilla Firefox

Imgur seems to be alive again.

2:39 AM

works for me

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@LegionMammal978 not for me

source: just got wigglefloof from FP

Destructible Watermelon

2:55 AM

that moment when your dorf miner jumps in the water to dig a channel

3:06 AM

O_o apparently git suffers from 2038 problem

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STAAACKS

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kek

Can Stack<Stack<Stack... to infinity, store itself?

Question: In my GitHub iOS app, I need to show two important pieces of info about a given user. One is their name, what should other be?

username?

3:20 AM

yeah, it shows name/username together

Show their name, again, but in a different colour.

AKA, I have no idea.

I have an idea what it is

the user's email address

what if the user has not supplies email

oh right

In which context is this? Is there some information you can specify about the context?

3:23 AM

lemme get a screenshot

He said "GitHub iOS app"

EG. if it's comments, the time the comment was posted might be a good idea.

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if you notice you'll see "Label" below their username

I have 0 idea on what should go there

As I said, If the user has email, email. else, blank.

Unfortunetly I don't have info about email

and to retrieve it could be around 100 API reqs

3:34 AM

oh

2 hours later…

5:14 AM

haaaaaaalp

cant get speaker out of plastic case

What have you tried?

pulling, screwdriver

prying

now trying to break away the plastic case

@wat Find a goat, it'll be able to eat off plastic case

kek

toppest of keks

hey @Downgoat I have a great idea

You could write an autocorrection library and call it "blamehooves"

MY GOD IT WORKED I AM SO HAPPY

I HAVE ACTUAL APP

5:29 AM

yey

now pls dont make it ios 10 only

please set sdk versoion to ios 8.0+

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@wat ^ :D

@wat errr oops

Umm

It might work I'll have to see

Look at the profile pic

:|

Just resembles a middle finger

@MatthewRoh please read description of profile pic

also yay i took off the speaker shell thing

5:32 AM

lol ik

let me set it to be a duck

kek

:D another opportunity to test refreshing

I am honestly quite proud of UI

it looks pretty nice

goat test it now

also what do you think of my ui

dk0.us:8082/transactions/check/in

I have no idea what it does but it looks nice

Oh no, Floating Point Arithmatic

5:37 AM

is it inspired by google's material design?

4.000000000000007

@Downgoat It is definitely material design

@MatthewRoh It would have to have floating labels in the inputs to be full material.

How do I delete rounding errors?

but you should have used polymer for that, right?

5:41 AM

@Downgoat yes

@MatthewRoh Polymer does not work with rails.

I used materialize

huh

Rails? Do you mean Ruby on Rails?

yup

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Is this nice logo for GitGoat

5:54 AM

I'm just disappointed that it isn't GoatHub

@DJMcMayhem that would imply an app which shows lots of videos and memes of goats. Which is a different app I'm making

my god who needs 6400x6400 size png

call it "GoatHub for GitHub"

and then just brand it as GoatHub everywhere else

Yes. Gotta satisfy the redundant department for redundancy.

@Downgoat That's actually really good.

GoatHub, the place for goats of all shapes and directions to meet and bleet.

5:57 AM

It fits with the actual GitHub logo.

Okay so like 83% done with GitGoat app now :D

Poll: GitGoat or GoatHub

2

noice

The most polarizing vote of the decade.

@Downgoat Blocked for me, but put in a vote from me for GoatHub

Destructible Watermelon

@Downgoat downgit!

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6:08 AM

I vote Downgit.

Scratch that, Destructible's suggestion is infinitely better.

It also won't confuse the heck out of people who are looking at the name

How do I load string objects as data-processing-target in Processing.js

@Downgoat 10/10

@MatthewRoh Did you already add Processing to the webpage?

I did

also I'm gonna use bitballoon until I find a proper hosting site

What about GH pages?

6:15 AM

:\

GH would be nice too

but for custom URL, I need to make yet another organization

You can create a repo and have ghpages for that repo

Oh really?

I'm just gonna use BitBalloon tho

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Q: Bitflip-resistant composite numbers

Sometimes, when writing a program, you need to use a prime number for some reason or other (e.g. cryptography). I assume that sometimes, you need to use a composite number, too. Sometimes, at least here on PPCG, your program has to be able to deal with arbitrary changes. And in circumstances conv...

code-golf number sequence binary integer

I can access HTML stuff in Processing.js right?

I just disassembled an Active Speaker System made by Sony.

I think it was unnecessarily hard. Sony was being a total ASS

You could also say it was a pain in the ASS to take apart

6:32 AM

can I use eval in processing.js

6:42 AM

All them newbies with their Processings and such. Back in my day, we learned programming with Python.

Python? We used C. Not even C++. C.

That was a joke, since I'm fifteen.

Once upon a time people used FORTRAN

and TI-BASIC

@Pavel oh, you poor thing :P

I actually skipped intro to CS, so I never ended up learning python particularly well.

Now I'm a Java person.

6:45 AM

Of yourse, you wouldn't write the FORTRAN in a fancy text editor with autocomplete features and live debugging. You punched holes in predefined positions, sent the stack to someone with a computer, and if you got the program wrong, you'd have to buy a new stack of punch cards.

And also pay for all the cards you wasted after it dumped core.

@JanDvorak I have no idea how old you are, so I can't tell if you're serious or joking :P

Wait, FORTRAN came after punch cards, by like a lot.

Only if you could afford it, of course. The poorer were lucky if they got the line number back.

RProgN 2 has made good progress

8{8`**}*C

Prints an 8 by 8 of asterisks

Now can anyone in the audience work out why

6:50 AM

it's stack based, int * block is iteration, backtick quotes a character, and C ... prints?

I mean ... int block *

You kind of had it

C calls, int block * makes a new block which is n times that block

oh.

Ew.

; iterates.

Print is implicit

I need French help

How do you say the sentence "On weekdays, I wake up at 7 o'clock" in French?

TuxCopter is asleep

6:55 AM

@Downgoat My iPad is iOS 8 and not 10

@JanDvorak what part of that is unappealing, is like to see if I can make it better

@Qwerp-Derp Je ne sais pas. (And that's about all the French I know.)

I would prefer int block * to evaluate the block int times.

@Qwerp-Derp My try: Les jours de la semaine, je me reveille à 7 heures

Why an implicit evaluate? I could make it implicit and keep an explicit operator as well.

6:58 AM

Golfscript uses ~ to evaluate strings/blocks

I'm quite explicitly not writing a golfscript clone

Is it "De lundi à vendredi, je me lève à sept heures."?

Basically "From Monday to Friday, I wake up at 7."

RProgN is trying more to be "Golfy RPL"

lève is "get up", reveille is "wake up"

RPL?

7:00 AM

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPL_(programming_language)

@Qwerp-Derp Looks good to me, but that doesn't say much.

@ATaco mobile wiki? Yuck.

@KritixiLithos "reveille" is also reflexive, right?

I was on my phone, don't judge me

@Pavel That or he's in school

@JanDvorak I use wikiwand: wikiwand.com/en/RPL_(programming_language)

7:02 AM

@Qwerp-Derp Oui

Why?

It looks nicer and is easier to read.

And I can search by double-tapping control.

The flow of control used to closely match RPL's, but it became a pain to golf, so I switched to blocks and functions that work on blocks

I like the floating X mouse pointer they have.

@flawr Re: Iceland president article--how does that guy have a 97% approval rating? Must be nice to live in a country where (nearly) everybody likes their president...

7:05 AM

@JanDvorak That's the cursor for when clicking closes something

which is why I like it.

I thought you were being sarcastic

I use an extension which automatically redirects wikipedia to wikiwand.

I used to use wikiwand. my school blocks it for some stupid reason

>_>

7:23 AM

@DLosc I'm pretty sure that's a parody site, like "The Onion"

Can I say "Je preparé pour quinze minutes pour l'école"?

Putin has an 87% approval.

@KritixiLithos I need halp

@DJMcMayhem Ha! Well, if Wikipedia is reliable... they have the same figure. I would have checked out the source cited, but of course it's in Icelandic.

Oh, wait actually I googled it and apparently the pineapple thing is real

7:28 AM

Interestingly enough, it appears he was elected on only 39% of the vote.

Fun fact: Kim jong un has an 100% approval

The actual approval rate is 67%

The difference being that as far as I can tell, Guðni Jóhannesson has not been threatening/arresting/poisoning anybody to boost his numbers. :P

@DLosc Well kim jong un did tho

I think we are getting off-topic

The 67% would appear to be actual approval data, it comes from a combination of people who have escaped NK being asked whether they thought that people they knew approve of KJU, private UN surveys, etc.

Though the error bars on that 67% are probably huge.

7:35 AM

oh really

Yes

Would making people output RED ZONE in audio too much for a challenge

For people who doesnt know it:

Red Zone Full version MP3

Do they have internet access?

sure

Otherwise, the challenge is equivalent to 'Inflate an arbitrary deflate stream'

With internet access, sure seems intresting.

You have to specify exactly which sites can be accessed, how it should be played, etc.

7:39 AM

:P

1. Play the vid
2. type awesome
3. click loop
4. profit

Nah, that's silly.

Why randomly add bytes for no reason?

Playing the audio should be fine.

No need for anything else.

Sure

Might be a dupe, but I don't think so.

Post in the sandbox.

hmm

theres not much questions on audio

Still, you want to sandbox it.

7:44 AM

Yeah

I'll sandbox it later

Like tomorrow or so

How do I say "I leave the house at around 10:30am"?

I know how to say it exactly, "Je quitte la maison à dix heures et demie", but I don't know how to add the "around" bit in

@Qwerp-Derp Like this

@Pavel (insert face here)

Dammit I can't find that face anymore, and this occasion is perfect for it

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(ಠ_ಠ)

trash pls

7:55 AM

(ಠ ͜ʖಠ) 10/10 best emote

Which thing?

nm

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