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12:00 AM
Will Cheddar update automatically when I run sudo apt update&&sudo apt upgrade or do package managers not work that way?
 
wat
@Pavel nope.
apt is not linked to npm or git
@Downgoat Consider making an Arch PKGBUILD
 
^ Also a debain one
 
wat
It's just some bash scripting to put files in the right directories, the packaging system on Arch is pretty awesome
Debian packages are a PITA to make
 
 ✘  ~/Cheddar   develop  cheddar
cheddar> help

Welcome to Cheddar!

If you are using Cheddar for the first time, we reccomend following
the getting started guide at: cheddar.vihan.org/quickstart
Documentation is availale at: docs.cheddar.vihan.org

The following commands are available:

   exit  - exits the REPL
   help  - outputs this
   clear - clears the screen

cheddar> exit

Runtime Error: Attempted to access undefined variable `exit`
cheddar>
 
wat
ctrl+d
 
12:03 AM
It completely breakes the interpreter
It just stops working
@Downgoat pls fix
 
@wat what is what
 
Wait, can I update Cheddar from NPM or do I have to git pull
 
@Downgoat Installer for Arch that adds the repo to the arch package manager
 
@Pavel I might start a cheddar-beta set of builds from npm but for now you have to use manual install
 
wat
12:04 AM
@Pavel yep correct
 
Ok
 
It's basically a .deb file but for Arch
 
@wat i got message first time :P
 
wat
k srry
 
12:05 AM
no its fine
 
wat
@Pavel No. A .pkg.tar.xz is a .deb for arch
 
Oh, ok.
 
wat
This is basically a thing to let the makepkg script make an Arch package.
 
but now you can enjoy tasty cheese
 
@muddyfish in your load bots thing, it apparently only loads 4 bots if there are enough bots as you want, but otherwise can load as many as specified? why is that?
 
wat
12:12 AM
There's another repository called the AUR that basically holds these PKGBUILD scripts and then you clone them and run makepkg on them
You can freely submit packages to it, can you please do that
@Downgoat did you see that message
 
@Downgoat I never said that
Jan 27 at 4:16, by Downgoat
@quartata I launched cheddar with working addition and print statement
I assume this is what he was referring to, although that was not v1
 
pls release pytek EAP?
 
Wha?
 
Early access
 
No
Not my choice to make anyways
 
12:27 AM
aww
Does anyone know how to make the dock in Unity show the names of windows? I need to be able to see if TNB has new activity.
Kind of like in Windows
 
Unity is probably not the de you want then
Try KDE or Xfce perhaps
 
@quartata I now know of a total of three Linux desktops, thanks.
Xfce has the window names that I want, but it looks like crap. KDE looks cool but I can't find any detailed screenshots.
Ok, I found one
 
If you like Windows you'll like KDE
 
What GUI should I use for Java stuff?
 
That's literally what it was designed to do
@Qwerp-Derp JavaFX
 
12:33 AM
Yeah, it looks nice, but on the other hand, I just got Ark set up for Unity and it looks so pretty now.
This is a difficult decision.
Oh, neat, in Ubuntu 16 I can move the launcher to the bottom of the screen
I don't know yet if I like it this way
 
Whoa wait intellij has javafx built in?
that's cool
 
@Qwerp-Derp That's one of the things IntelliJ is commonly praised for, the GUI designer.
 
apparently javafx is really nice as well
 
Nope, I've gotten to used to it being on the left.
ಠ_ಠ
my font can't render ಠ_ಠ ;-;
 
@Pavel Ewww, is this the new Unity?
 
12:41 AM
@quartata No that's Ark
Custom icon set
Does anyone know where I can download Segoe UI?
They managed to put DRM on fonts ;-;
 
Next badge: Fanatic
Progress: 99/100
:D
 
@mbomb007 Me too!
:D
 
1:06 AM
@Downgoat what OS are you on?
Does anyone know a good font on Linux that can render ಠ_ಠ?
 
9 messages moved to Trash
 
1:41 AM
Why is it bad practice to use += with strings in for loops?
 
I never knew it was
It works well. But the problem is if you screw up the string becomes bad
You can really screw up stuff more than normal
Removed it to avoid bad stuff
I said "Lets all eat some meat!"
 
That's probably a good idea
 
This is what boredom has brought me to youtube.com/watch?v=voNqjCAy6Sg <-- no onebox
 
You don't need to type "no onebox" if there's other text in the message
 
1:54 AM
@ChristopherPeart How could you possibly think that's a good idea?
 
I didn't
Still working on mastering the Frontal Lobe
I am glad I removed it before anyone else saw it
 
wat
@Pavel numix circle
 
Right
 
2:25 AM
@Pavel would you like to discuss stuff in the maze koth room if it gets unfrozen soon?
@ChristopherPeart I wonder what would have happened if you didn't delete it...
how quickly would it have been moved to trash or flagged or something?
 
@DestructibleWatermelon I flagged it before it was deleted
There was even time for my flag to be cleared.
 
0
Q: Carpet an Airport

Wheat WizardIn 2015 the Portland International Airport began the replacement of their iconic carpet. I want you to write a program to draw their old carpet in as few bytes as possible. Specifications Here is a link to some Latex that will output a scalable pdf image of one tile. Your output should match...

 
How do I create a .tar.gz of a directory?
The tar command is confusing.
 
black magic probs
thats why they call it tar
 
2:47 AM
so, I gotta figure out how to do this dynamic importing
 
wat
i made a list of things that thing
@Pavel Do not use KDE please
Try GNOME. That's what I use. It works really, REALLY well with Arc
 
@wat I don't think I will
 
wat
@Pavel ok, thanks
 
How do I switch DEs?
Actually no found it
 
wat
@Pavel there's a menu hwhen you log in, when you put in your password
do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool
 
2:58 AM
Does it remember all of my settings?
 
wat
?
Unity settings != gnome settings
 
Aww
 
wat
but don't worry GNOME tweak tool is so much easier to set up
 
Considering the unity tweak tool was pretty easy, these will be a breeze
 
wat
OK log into gnome
 
2:59 AM
Gnome tweak tool is big
 
wat
not really
 
79%
Still, not Mathematica.
Do I chose lightdm or gdm3?
 
lightdm
 
wat
gdm3
you can always switch it back later
 
No. That will mess up Unity.
 
wat
3:01 AM
how
 
Because display managers are fickle beasts
 
wat
also, he's switching to gnome. he can always put back his old display manager
I prefer gdm's X display allocation. also wayland does not work with lightdm
 
If he's instling GNOME 3 I figure I should make it as easy as possible for his inevitable uninstall
 
wat
why "inevitable"?
 
Also Wayland doesn't work with anything so
 
wat
3:03 AM
@quartata uh yeah it does
 
Wayland isn't even close to production ready
 
wat
Chrome/Chromium are native Wayland apps. The entire GNOME suite is wayland. There's also Xwayland which lets you run any X app in Wayland. I ran wayland for close to 3 months before switching back because I installed Nvidia proprietary driver version 340xx which does not work with Wayland (they only just added support in their new version)
 
I admire the rollout they're pushing for but X11 has been around for decades. You can't replace it that fast.
 
wat
not saying to replace it, just that gnome's implementation only works in gdm
 
I'm scared
I'm going to go with lightdm, I do want to be able to switch back
 
wat
3:06 AM
ok, then when you start GNOME choose "GNOME on Xorg" instead of "GNOME"
 
Got it
So... slow...
Tried gnome...
Did not like.
Where is taskbar?
Nononono this is bad, I'm going back to Unity
 
y u even use gnome
 
Wat told me to
brb restarting
 
Don't get GNOME 2 confused with GNOME 3.
That's like confusing Java with JavaScript. GNOME 2 is totally different and is great
GNOME 3 is weird. It used to be a lot weirder if you can believe it.
 
http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/84260/add-two-numbers
Wireworld incoming
 
3:21 AM
1
Q: Rafting Problem

GwynFirst puzzle from me, suggestions for improvement gladly received! The scenario is; You work as a manager for a whitewater rafting company. Every morning, you are given a list of bookings, and you have to sort them into raft loads. Write a program or function in your chosen language that does th...

 
@quartata Ok, got it. Btw, the reason I was gone for a while there is I accidentally switched to Unity8
It kind of borked everything.
 
Have you tried KDE yet?
 
@quartata No, and I don't want to.
Ubuntu default looks just fine
And I don't want to risk everything breaking.
 
I thought you didn't like the dock?
 
It's fine, I just wish I could look at a glance if I could see activity in TNB
 
3:31 AM
Oh there's no risk of things breaking because of a new DE.
 
I just did break things thanks to Unity8
 
wat
@Pavel
The reason you could not find taskbar is because GNOME3 is different and strange if you are used to the regular desktop
 
My laptop froze when I logged in to it, and i've set my computer to log me in automatically.
 
wat
Why did it freeze?
 
No clue
 
wat
3:32 AM
also can you please cat /proc/cpuinfo and post it here
 
I repeatedly restarted and eventually locked my computer before it freezing.
 
wat
along with lspci
weird it's always worked perfectly for me.
 
processor	: 0
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 42
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz
stepping	: 7
microcode	: 0x29
cpu MHz		: 892.431
cache size	: 4096 KB
physical id	: 0
siblings	: 4
core id		: 0
cpu cores	: 2
apicid		: 0
initial apicid	: 0
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 13
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor d
 
wat
Also, you can enable taskbar or use a dock like OSX.
 
just try it in a VM if you're worried
 
3:33 AM
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
 
also don't log in automatically jeez
 
wat
huh.
 
@anyone how do I get gitHub to rebuild my site based on my read me
 
@quartata Yeah, I've already changed that.
 
wat
That's kinda why I asked to enable GDM
@Pavel Your laptop is better than mine, has mostly the same hardware jsut newer. I wonder why it wouldn't work
 
3:35 AM
He's using Nouveau probably
if it needs that what de is this
 
wat
@Pavel can you please also post the result of lsmod?
@quartata GNOME is GPU accelerated, if it doesn't have GPU accel it uses llvmpipe which is very slow
 
@quartata I don't know what that is
Module                  Size  Used by
nls_utf8               16384  1
udf                    90112  1
crc_itu_t              16384  1 udf
rfcomm                 77824  2
ccm                    20480  2
bnep                   20480  2
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     45056  1
intel_rapl             20480  0
x86_pkg_temp_thermal    16384  0
intel_powerclamp       16384  0
coretemp               16384  0
kvm_intel             188416  0
kvm                   598016  1 kvm_intel
irqbypass              16384  1 kvm
nouveau 1572864 6 looks relevant
 
wat
> nouveau
ah.
 
@wat That's Muffin's fault not the shell
 
wat
@quartata Muffin?
 
3:37 AM
@Pavel oh my sweet summer child
 
wat
@RohanJhunjhunwala Why did you just post your name twice
 
(idk) I think its cause I copied from a previous message
 
How have you been playing MC this whole time
 
wat
@quartata desktop computer
IIRC he is running windows on that
 
3:38 AM
Anyone mnow how to work with githubs auto website creator?
 
@quartata Poorly, the default launcher doesn't start, had to get the beta one.
It crashes my entire computer occasionally, or if I try to load Realistico
@wat How to fix?
 
@Pavel I mean the actual game. You should be getting terrible FPS
 
wat
@Pavel one sec let me check
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala I didn't know they has an auto website creator, but they do have a hosting service
 
You need the proprietary drivers for your GPU
 
3:40 AM
@quartata Well, I get xray vision whenever I even turn around
 
wat
let me find if he nedds nvidia or nvidia-340xx
 
@MatthewRoh you know how you can create a github page and it will give you a gitHub.io and create a branch of your repo to hold source for a simple website contain the readme markdown.
 
;-; I tried the proprietary driver, my desktop became a rainbow of glitchiness.
 
never mind, it was just taking a while to reload. Rip
I like how the pages turn out though (rjhunjhunwala.github.io/S.I.D.E)
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala pages.github.com?
 
3:42 AM
 
@MatthewRoh yeah, that sort of thing
 
@Pavel You wouldn't really expect to run minecraft on linux
 
@MatthewRoh ಠ_ಠ
 
Wew conor is back (?)
 
@everyone I need a more powerful emoticon for ^^^, preferably one that will render in Liberation Serif
 
3:45 AM
@MatthewRoh I was gone?
 
wait nvm
 
@wat @quartata pls don't abandon me what driver should I use I'm confused
 
Can anyone test my JS1K submission here?
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent What is that, and what is JS1K?
 
@Pavel Draw something, give it a name, draw it again and see.
well, i have to test before i submit i dont want to lose my face
preferably firefox
 
3:53 AM
@LearnHowToBeTransparent What's the expected behaviour for going over the same point twice?
 
@Pavel that point wont be recorded
 
Seems to work fine (chrome)
 
what about firefox? i tested on safari, it doesnt work
 
thats cause a lion in the safari ate it
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent Works on firefox
 
3:56 AM
 
@Pavel pressing the red button now
 
Good for you.
Still don't know what JS1K is
 
@Pavel go to js1k.com
 
Ooh, cool
@wat Trying 340.101. Wish me luck!
 
wat
use the ubuntu repos
@RohanJhunjhunwala You mean Jekyll?
 
4:05 AM
DIDN'T BORK
YAY
 
wat
yay!!
Now try GNOME
 
I only have GNOME3, I'm told I should be on GNOME2?
 
wat
@Pavel No.
Did you switch to it yet?
 
I'm redownloading realistico, I want to see if the new driver will let me run it.
 
wat
ok
 
4:13 AM
@wat it says incompatible instead of crashing.
Which I suppose is an improvement
 
wat
@Pavel what is incompatible?
I dont think you have enough VRAM
if it says incompatible with the version, just click use anyway
 
I did
It just says incompatible and doesn't work
 
wat
...k
aight then no realistico for you
try faithful
 
I'm doing that
I've been using it
 
wat
ok then
Have you tried GNOME yet?
 
4:18 AM
rtied
Error: command rtie not found
 
wat
@MatthewRoh Two letters next to each other on the keyboard.
 
@wat Will do now
 
wat
@Pavel ok
@Pavel did it work?
 
Why did I just do that, I don't like gnome.
 
wat
4:26 AM
@Pavel ???
open gnome tweak tool
go to extensions page on the left and enable window list
 
I can't know, I gtg. Lost track of time badly.
 
wat
also enable applications menu
 
I'm on my phone right now.
 
wat
sorry ._.
 
It's cool
MC lags a bit on the new driver, I'm not sure if it always did that though.
It's unrelated to whether or not faithful is being used.
 
4:31 AM
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Luis MendoAttack, Decay, Sustain, Release code-golf graphical-output music Many sound synthesizers define the envolope of the sound (the way loudness changes with time) by means of four parameters, as represented in the following figure from Wikipedia: Attack time (A): time taken for the envelope to re...

 
4:43 AM
Woot, rep!
 
Heh :-)
Congrats!
 
Thanks!
 
@Dennis You get rep all the time, why the celebration now?
 
500 at once is a rare occurrence.
 
in Best of 2016 coordination, 1 min ago, by Luis Mendo
I just awarded my bounty. I think we can go on with the next, as currently there are only three active bounties @MartinEnder
 
4:45 AM
Oh, what for?
Ah
Isn't it a net of 0 since you gave 500 yourself?
 
Don't remind me. :P
Still gotta catch up with Martin.
 
Eh, take 100 from me. (Tomorrow)
 
Huh? How/what for?
 
-1
Q: According to all known laws of aviation

Matthew RohThere once was a trending meme, named "Bee Movie". Here is its opening quote. According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyways. Because bees don't ca...

 
@Dennis Sidi
 
4:49 AM
^^ Dupe of just about any old Kolmogorov challenge?
 
Already deleted.
@Pavel :)
 
@MatthewRoh you should really use the sandbox before posting
 
user image
6
The first eighth is done.
 
Indeed
Not even Jon Skeet has a million tho
 
4:56 AM
ah, we should have asked for "remove the rep cap" on "We're not a Q&A"
just so we could have a chance at beating Jon Skeet
 
We can still do that
I don't know if it's a good idea though.
 
Please no, the rep cap is the only thing that keeps my code golf addiction in check.
 
I mean, it depends on your goals. Do you want to beat Jon Skeet, or do you want to limit the amount of moderation abuse?
 
@NathanMerrill Anyone who can write an answer good enough to rep cap can probably reach the privileges pretty fast anyway.
 
Also, seeing how Jon Skeet is currently at 926,430, I doubt it will help.
 
5:01 AM
Imagine if it applied retroactive to all your old posts
 
My combined posts only have 13,071 upvotes.
That's a lot of upvotes, but not anywhere near Skeet level.
 
Does that count bounties?
 
Neither bounties nor accepted answers.
 
And even without those, that's more rep than you currently have.
 
But those are exempt from the rep cap anyway.
 
5:05 AM
Right
 
I wonder if you would be beating Martin tho...
 
In comparison, Jon Skeet has 181,672 combined upvotes on his answers.
 
That is a lot.
 
He's posted 18,364 answers, so ~10 upvotes per post.
Nevermind my statistics. All of those were only for one tag.
I blame the time of day.
 
5:10 AM
Well, It's probably at least 90%
 
It is, but Jon Skeet is only 55% C#.
 
@ConorO'Brien I believe you asked me several months ago to let you know when I finished my aesthetically pleasing divisor tree answer. Well, finally, here it is: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/109802/47581
I should probably post a bounty to that challenge now that I've finally finished my answer
 
5:29 AM
We should remove the rep cap so dennis can be more godly
 
wat
if you remove rep cap, the changes will propagate, right?
 
Fun Fact: We have a Discord server
Ask Sherlock, its true
 
 
1 hour later…
6:56 AM
CMC: render juggling with N balls
 
7:17 AM
@MatthewRoh CMCs are usually things that don't require as much effort as actually animating things.
 
wat
@Pavel so what happened about GNOME?
 
Okay
 
@wat I'll have to let you know tomorrow, sorry. (Keeping in mind that tomorrow is in 40 minutes)
 
wat
@Pavel Yeah, OK
 
Maybe at 3 or something
 
wat
7:28 AM
@Pavel No.
I have to go to school on monday
 
Yeah, so do I. I might just go to bed early tomorrow.
 
wat
@Pavel how will you go to sleep???
My sleep schedule is fucked up
 
@wat It helps to be extremely tired after only a few hours of sleep the previous night.
 
wat
@Pavel even like that, I end up laying in bed for hours, then going to sleep at 2AM to wake up at 7:50
 
@wat Every programmers(nerds) sleep schedule is fucked up
 
7:33 AM
@wat Last Sunday I got up at 3 and realized I felt completely well rested. I want to bed at 12 later and was completely fine.
 
wat
goddammit my VM froze and I almost reset my physical computer
 
Och
 
Generally I get less sleep on Saturday nights then any other night. 3-7 isn't uncommon
 
I feel like an exception: I sleep at like 10:30 on weekdays, and 11:30 on weekends
And I still wake up tired for some reason on weekdays, even though I get like 9 hours
 
I wake up tired on weekdays pretty much regardless of how much sleep I got
School
 
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