The Nineteenth Byte

Steven H.

12:00 AM

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C# 4, 58 bytes Stream (69; 65 if weakly typed to IEnumerable) (Assuming a using directive for System.Collections.Generic.) IEnumerable<int>F(){int c=0,n=1;for(;;){yield return c;n+=c;c=n-c;}} Single value (58) int F(uint n,int x=0,int y=1){return n<1?x:F(n-1,y,x+y);}

It wasn't 9 months ago

The thing that said 9 months was a dirty lie

Zacharý

Best candidate for Jon Skeet of PPCG?

Steven H.

I mean, Dennis. Right? Most rep

Zacharý

Yeah

Riker

12:22 AM

@Pavel IIRC there's a 'fun' deleted answer by him

metagolfscript or something

Pavel

@Riker Back before PPCG existed there were code golf competitions on SO. Jon Skeet created a language to accomplish the task at hand in one byte, since that wasn't against the rules back then.

Riker

no, this was on ppcg I think

also, eleven: ppcg edition

cc @Mego

i.sstatic.net/YDeRW.png - cutout of penguin face if anybody wants to make a better 11

Adám

Score: 10
Created: 19 hours ago
Clicks per day: 0 (6 total)

SE division by zero fail ^

Zacharý

12:52 AM

How does that result from a fail in division by zero? And anyways, we all know 1=0÷0 :p .

Adám

1:09 AM

@Zacharý I suppose it rounds down the number of days, so that Clicks per day is 6÷⌊19÷24. I suppose SE uses ⎕DIV←1 then. ;-)

Thomas Ward

1:23 AM

tosses a stick at @Adám for no real reason

ANYWAYS my brain hurts. How's everyone else

Zacharý

@ThomasWard Is this some sort of inside joke that I am unaware of?

Thomas Ward

@Zacharý no, it's my way of trying to ping @Adám in multiple places because he was asking about my efforts in a Python port of the TIOBot.

so i'm just trying to poke him in multiple places :P

Zacharý

Why the "stick" though?

Thomas Ward

just $INSERT_RANDOM_OBJECT_HERE

'stick' was the first object that came to mind :)

Zacharý

So throws a Jon Skeet would work as well? (I couldn't think of anything ... sorry)

Thomas Ward

1:30 AM

otherwise my mind usually says "Salt", "Pocket Sand", or "The entire Bash manpage in printed book form" (the implication there is it's a very heavy object from hell because the Bash manpage in Linux is about eight-hundred pages long on standard Letter sized paper)

Pretty much, but it has to make sense really :P

yawns

TL;DR, I'm slightly chaotic random, people just tolerate me :)

Zacharý

In that case, throwing "Mastering Dyalog" is the best option, (it might catch his attention )

Thomas Ward

meh, he'll see my messages. Most of the PPCG people are good at checking their @ ping highlights :)

drifts back into the shadows

Riker

1:55 AM

@ThomasWard #3 is the longest to type though :p

Thomas Ward

:P

Riker

but pocket sand is best because it's pocket sand, and it's longer than 'salt'

Pavel

._. the Dyalog APL Keyboard has two Windows keys but not a dedicated APL key.

Steven H.

@Adám Feature request for the language bars: Disable the keyboard shortcuts when I click the x in the top right corner so I can type ` again

Pavel

It's also 110 dollars

Downgoat

2:06 AM

has anyone used the OEM cooler w/ Kaby Lake?

It's really loud and idk if this is normal

Pavel

@Downgoat Build a computer recently? If your processor fan is louder than your GPU fans something is probably wrong.

Steven H.

I just looked at the starboard... ಠ_ಠ

Downgoat

@Pavel yeah, I guess something is wrong

I am at BIOS and CPU sounds like Saturn V preparing to lift-off while GPU is pretty much silent

should I return the CPU (itself is fine) + Stock fan. Or should I just get an aftermarket cooler

Pavel

@Downgoat Aftermarket coolers are better than the OEM one anyway, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to get one even if the OEM one was working fine.

Downgoat

oh ok thanks

Also Pro Tip: Make sure RAM is actually plugged in before wondering why MoBo says no RAM

Pavel

2:16 AM

@Downgoat My MoBo's beep code for "RAM failure" and "Your monitor is off so the video card did a stupid" is the same thing. Took me forever to realize.

Not sure why my GPU fails if my computer boots while the monitor is off.

Downgoat

@Pavel are the 2 connected w/ DP?

Pavel

@Downgoat Yes, actually.

Are you asking because there's actually a perfectly reasonably explanation and not my GPUs being haunted

Or because you have the same issue

Downgoat

@Pavel DP is bi-directional

ATaco

@Downgoat I've installed Babel

Downgoat

2:32 AM

@ATaco :D

you should totally install github.com/vihanb/babel-plugin-jsx-to-dom

ATaco

Not much has changed so far besides an increase in load time.

I already have, but I've not set it up correctly.

I'm not sure how to actually use the Dom.

Downgoat

@ATaco are you recompiling every request

ATaco

I'm not even at the request stage.

I've got a very basic Express server set up with the babel plugin.

Downgoat

@ATaco are you using webpack or browserify?

oic you're using for backend

ATaco

Actually, I could probably just install JSDom.

Downgoat

2:38 AM

what are you using JSDom for

ATaco

Well NodeJS + Express doesn't have Dom capabilities by default.

And react is the devil.

Downgoat

@ATaco why do you need DOM capabilities on server side

ATaco

That's where I'm actually using the Plugin.

Anonymous

@ThomasWard shashasha

ATaco

But, it works.

Just because you've designed something to be used in a particular way, don't expect users to agree.

Anonymous

2:49 AM

Anyone have more feedback before this goes up?

ATaco

With this, I can set up a really bad idea for a webserver.

Pavel

I'm really tempted to buy an RGB mouse mat but I know I shouldn't.

Downgoat

@Pavel Why not just get an RGB mouse

ATaco

RGB Chair.

Anonymous

3:04 AM

RGB house

Pavel

@Downgoat Because I have one already

Downgoat

My CPU has thermal paste on it (I guess from fan?) so if I put this cpu cooler: pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7 will the thermal paste cause any problems?

Anonymous

Probably not, but just in case, clean off the old and put on new thermal paste

Josh Cz

hey off topic question here, how can I make a chatroom to talk about a project?

Pavel

@Mego They tested this on LTT, apparantly the thermal paste used doesn't matter at all. Even if it's five years old.

@JoshCz I don't see why not.

You can make a chatroom for anything

Josh Cz

3:11 AM

well I mean what do I click?

Downgoat

@JoshCz go here: chat.stackexchange.com and scroll to bottom of the page

There'll be a "Create a new room button"

Josh Cz

no just show frozen for me

Anonymous

@Pavel Really? I was always taught to replace the thermal paste whenever you replace the cooler, because some inevitably ends up on the cooler, and without replacing it, it may not make a good seal on the new one

quartata

need 100 rep

Josh Cz

ah that answers my question

can one of you guys create a room for me?

Pavel

3:13 AM

@Mego I do it just to be safe, but yeah. You shouldn't need to.

Anonymous

@JoshCz I don't know that that is allowed unless it's for moving comments to chat

Anonymous

@Pavel I also always replace the thermal paste because I always inevitably get hair in it or I accidentally stick my finger in it. I'm not the most graceful person inside of a computer tower :P

Josh Cz

the title should be EA's SWBF2 Project-Ceasefire. Its an idea for an in-game protest. if you are interested in helping me with the project you should be allowed to make your own chat room for it right?

Anonymous

@JoshCz Theoretically yes, but creating a chatroom for another user to bypass rep requirements could be viewed as an abuse of the system

eaglgenes101

Anyone here with a better handle of Julia macros than I do?

Downgoat

3:16 AM

@eaglgenes101 You could ask @Riker he's used Julia but I'm not sure how fluent he is in it

eaglgenes101

I'm trying to compact loader.jl further, and the next logical plan of attack is to use a macro to replace the multiple instantiations of (x=¬x)%2!=0 with a macro

Can't use a function, since they can't reach for a variable in an outer closure without obnoxious syntax

And x=¬x is an assignment

Josh Cz

@Mego I mean, I posted a question in Video Game Programming but its already flagged for not being a question, so I guess chat is the only way to get help for my project. I guess I just have to find someone wants to help to create the chatroom right?

Anonymous

This is certainly not the appropriate place

Josh Cz

you are completely correct, shouldn't post this here. but cause of the rep system I don't really have a lot of options. I have an idea that I think is too big for me so naturally I thought stackexchange was the place to go. Reddit would be waaay too hard to manage by myself

Pavel

@JoshCz Try reddit

Anonymous

3:28 AM

Just participate on any SE site, and get the rep you need to start the chatroom. 100 rep really isn't hard.

Anonymous

It's 10 answer upvotes. That's 10 good answers. You can knock that out in 10 minutes on Stack Overflow if you have a basic understanding of a programming language.

Josh Cz

ok I can give it a shot

thanks for the help

Downgoat

4:25 AM

@DJMcMayhem Santa Rosa Goat Sanctuary

eaglgenes101

Also, I want to do a self-balancing tree structure, where the structure of the problem forces people to implement one of several self-balancing tree implementations without forcing them

Downgoat

> forces people to ... without forcing them

0/10 oxymoron

eaglgenes101

Err bad wording

But anyway, I want to make the challenge have people implement a O(log(n)) retrieval data structure

How would I go about writing such a challenge

Downgoat

can you elaborate on what sort of data structure?

eaglgenes101

Currently I have this: Implement two subroutines. The second, given a parameter, returns a truthy value, with time complexity equal to the number of previous calls to the first fucntion, whether the first function was ever called with that parameter

Man I am on a miswording roll

*The second, given a parameter, returns a value, with time complexity equal to the number of previous calls to the first function, whether the first function was ever called with that parameter

*equal to the logarithm of the number of previous calls to the first function

The challenge not-so-subtly nudges people to encode some sort of self-balancing binary tree to solve the challenge

*implement

Are there better expected submission formats than to ask for two tightly coupled functions

Downgoat

4:41 AM

two independent programs with same input?

people won't like saying "two functions" if a language doesn't have them

eaglgenes101

Which is precisely why I'm asking for a better challenge queston

One that isn't nearly reliant on the language in question having functions

Nick Clifford

5:40 AM

tfw you get your first pull request from someone else on one of your independent projects (thanks @Mr.Xcoder)

Mr. Xcoder

@NickClifford You’re welcome :-)

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user202729

6:17 AM

@Mego Seriously? I don't think so. -- Well, mostly because there isn't many good questions to answer...

@Mego I suppose if anyone else is interested in the project they can create a chatroom. You are not interested in the project so it makes sense that you don't help.

--- What may be the problem when <100-rep users create chatroom? I can't think of any problem. ---

Anonymous

@user202729 The rep/priv system was designed so that < 100 rep users can't create chatrooms. I do not know the rationale behind that decision. Probably to help combat spammers.

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Fatalize

6:36 AM

@ais523 @Zgarb @EriktheOutgolfer @LeakyNun You can now use this tool if you need to write Brachylog on any webpage.

Leaky Nun

nice!

Fatalize

(it is especially nice to not have to copy paste all those subscripts-superscripts but rather use ^ and _ compositions)

Adám

7:15 AM

@ThomasWard Unfortunately I need to sleep sometimes. But anyway… Yes?

@StevenH. F5.

@ThomasWard @Riker At work, people usually throw SALT at me to get my attention.

@StevenH. You're only talking about the APL keyboard, right?

Steven H.

Yeah

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7:35 AM

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Q: Happy Birthday, Finland!

Introduction As is known, in 2017, Finland celebrates its 100 years of independence. To mark the occasion, it is your job to produce a Finnish flag for everyone's enjoyment. Challenge Create a program or a function that produces the flag of Finland (the grey border is there for presentation pu...

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Adám

@StevenH. You know that backtick,space gives ` right?

Steven H.

7:50 AM

... So it does. Thanks, @Adám!

Erik the Outgolfer

12:40 PM

@Fatalize sure, I'm already using it for other language bars :p but it's mostly good for APL

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer ANy other languages I should add?

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám rn I just came home, can't really think much :p

@Fatalize copy-paste? you click on them or use combinations then TAB

but please note that it doesn't exactly work with TIO, it adds trailing TAB chars

user202729

Because TIO handles TAB specially.

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Husk

Erik the Outgolfer

12:56 PM

btw the biggest problem I see with the Brachylog one is that there's no separation, and I think there can be some

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder Is there a plaintext table of commands?

Mr. Xcoder

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 !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
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ŀṁṅȯṗṙṡṫẇẋẏż¨ÄËÏÖÜŸØäëïöüÿø◊□¶«»

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder he doesn't want the whole codepage, only the commands

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder That's the code page. I don't need that.

Mr. Xcoder

oh

idk then

Adám

12:58 PM

@Mr.Xcoder Like github.com/barbuz/Husk/wiki/Commands but without markdown.

Erik the Outgolfer

if you put a whole code page in the language bar then it would be unnecessarily large

user202729

So just remove markdown.

Erik the Outgolfer

for example I don't think ◊ is a command in Husk

user202729

Wait... Is the character to the right of diamond a literal square?

Erik the Outgolfer

yes

user202729

12:59 PM

(or is my font lack of support for that character?)

Adám

@user202729 Tricky, but I did it for Jelly. I could also use regex to parse the rendered HTML, but that may cause some angels to bleed

Erik the Outgolfer

and its purpose for a number is to square it

Mr. Xcoder

Yay I finally got it working on Safari too

user202729

So just do the same for this one.

Erik the Outgolfer

> could [...] use regex to parse [...] HTML

user202729

1:01 PM

Well, in general no, but in that case yes.

(with some manual handling)

I remember that being a famous question on SO...

Erik the Outgolfer

it's not guaranteed that every wiki has the same format

user202729

This answer.

@EriktheOutgolfer Yes that's why there should be some manual handling.

Adám

@user202729 Yay:

'\| \`\` \` \`\` \| ' '\` \`\`' ' \`\` ' ' \| \`\` ' '\` \| ' '^\| \`' ' \| \`' '\`| ?\|'

user202729

Huh? Where is that from?

Adám

@user202729 My regex parse Jelly's wiki.

Can I get the raw markdown of a GitHub wiki without forking it?

user202729

1:07 PM

Probably clone it or view raw? Let me see.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám I don't think cloning it keeps the wiki

user202729

Yes, that's the wiki...

Adám

Hah, I found an easy way to strip markdown: Select and copy. :-)

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám doesn't work for me

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer What do you get?

Erik the Outgolfer

1:13 PM

that's obviously a table, but it doesn't look like a table when you copy-paste

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer When I paste-as-object in APL, I get a 315 rows, 5 columns matrix.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám tab-separated rows instead of |-separated, it doesn't define the headers of each column

@Adám this

I don't think what you're getting is a matrix, try ]box on -style=max

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer Depth is +2 and shape is 315 5 so that's a regular matrix of vectors.

user202729

The tab handling of the language bar use keydown , the same as how TIO handles tab. You need higher "level" than TIO to override that. Any idea? (actually both TIO and language-bar preventDefault and both are executed) -- also I think it is not too hard to special-case TIO.

Adám

@user202729 I'm intending to suggest to Dennis that he integrates it for languages that have it.

Erik the Outgolfer

1:18 PM

@Adám I don't think that's really possible

Mr. Xcoder

^

Adám

@EriktheOutgolfer Why not?

Erik the Outgolfer

@user202729 well, maybe add optional backspace as an option

user202729

@Mr.Xcoder Reply to message with empty content is not possible.

Erik the Outgolfer

it's not a reply

user202729

1:19 PM

I think it's pretty weird.

Mr. Xcoder

@user202729 Didn't mean to reply. ^ means approval.

user202729

@EriktheOutgolfer It used to be. With the :<message_id> format.

Oh, probably the userscript.

Erik the Outgolfer

no it never was

Mr. Xcoder

Yes, because of Caret Reply

I just edited really fast

Erik the Outgolfer

@Adám because Dennis can't special-case every 3rd-party bookmarklet or add-on or something in the world

@Adám however, what I suggested above (optional backspace) might be possible?

like, backspace the extra tab

Adám

1:21 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer Of course not, but he himself has expressed a wish for "keyboards". He could just take the code and run it for those languages that we have it for.

user202729

Replace the key Tab with another key is pretty easy. Just change the 900.

Adám

@user202729 Which key do you suggest?

user202729

Not sure. Just saying.

Well, when the language-bar script function for keydown (function fk) run, the Tab has not been inserted yet.

Probably space? It's not used much in golfing languages.

And even if it is used, the chance is low that 2 characters precede it is a valid shortcut.

Adám

@user202729 I thought of that, but I'm afraid it would become frustrating whenever it would clash. Maybe Ctrl+Space?

Riker

3:08 PM

@eaglgenes101 I know some about julia macros but not a lot, sorry

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Pour me a drink, will you? The Challenge I am thirsty and need a drink, but I don't know what to order. Your task is to provide me with either a drink or options for one. I/O Input will be either a base or a drink name. If given a base, your program should output one random drink from a list...

HyperNeutrino

I was going to make an advent challenge link thingy at the bottom of each post (with all 25 links) but then I realized that every day I have to edit them all which will eventually cause the front page to entirely just be advent challenges :P

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AdmBorkBork

@HyperNeutrino Good grief. I read through the challenge three times but didn't see that they were all the same width... :-/

HyperNeutrino

so I might make a new sub-site of my home site and just add a link to that in each question

@AdmBorkBork haha :P dw I do that too :P

anyway gtg o/

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Q: Iterated phi sequence

Related: Iterated phi(n) function. Your challenge is to compute the iterated phi function: f(n) = number of iterations of φ for n to reach 1. Where φ is Euler's totient function. Related OEIS. Here's the graph of it: Rules: Your goal is to output f(n) from n=2 to n=100. This is code-...

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El'endia Starman

4:41 PM

Today's Google Doodle is a graphical programming game. You see a level map once you hit level 4 and it says what the minimum possible number of tiles is needed for each level's solution. Golfing! Also, they say 6 is the minimum for level 6, but I just did it in 5.

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user202729

Well, they certainly didn't brute force all possibilities.

That level is quite hard, too.

El'endia Starman

Last level certainly took some thought. It helps a lot if you seek to minimize the number of tiles rather than the number of hops.

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman That's amazing

El'endia Starman

Y'know, an atomic golf challenge could totally be made out of this game.

user202729

I figured out 6 command in a short amount of time. Let me think about 5...

No problem, just figured out the solution.

El'endia Starman

4:47 PM

Just figured out another 5-tile solution.

user202729

My solution was Try it online!

El'endia Starman

@user202729 That's different from both of mine. (Looks like I don't remember how that hover text thing works.)

user202729

I see without hovering.

Just finished level 4 at 6 steps.

El'endia Starman

Chat is inaccessible on desktop now.

NieDzejkob

boo, can't make the bun jump into void

user202729

4:54 PM

spoiler

El'endia Starman

Okay, dunno what happened with chat but I'm back now.

user202729

You need [spoiler](http://www.example.com "Content").

But some people prefer TIO spoiler.

El'endia Starman

Yes, thank you. Spoiler: two 5-tile solutions for level 6.

user202729

Spoiler: Level 4 in 6 steps instead of 7

caird coinheringaahing

@NieDzejkob I know right!? If you going to give me total control over a bunny, at least allow me to make it commit suicide! :P

DJMcMayhem

4:56 PM

I can't figure out level 4 for the life of me lol

user202729

Just two squares.

El'endia Starman

@NieDzejkob That was literally the first thing I tried.

Though you have to admit, you get much more elegant solutions if you disallow jumping into the void.

user202729

@DJMcMayhem Expected solution for level 4

DJMcMayhem

Not gonna click that just yet. I still want to figure it out later

user202729

@El'endiaStarman And much more longer solution. Not sure if it is possible to get 6 in level 6.

caird coinheringaahing

4:59 PM

@user202729 That's horribly inefficient though :P

El'endia Starman

@user202729 That was tricky, but I got spoiler: 6 steps as well. Edited to fix solution.

NieDzejkob

@El'endiaStarman If I read that right, that's 5 steps

Pavel

@El'endiaStarman I don't get it, that just links to example.com

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman @user202729 BTW, thanks for putting everything in spoilers. I appreciate it ;)

Pavel

What is this?

caird coinheringaahing

5:06 PM

@Pavel Hover over the URL

24 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

Today's Google Doodle is a graphical programming game. You see a level map once you hit level 4 and it says what the minimum possible number of tiles is needed for each level's solution. Golfing! Also, they say 6 is the minimum for level 6, but I just did it in 5.

El'endia Starman

@Pavel Hover over them to see spoilers. But don't if you don't want to see them.

Pavel

Oh I see

El'endia Starman

@NieDzejkob Two turns, two hops, two loops.

DJMcMayhem

...starring...

NieDzejkob

@El'endiaStarman I don't get your notation

DJMcMayhem

5:08 PM

I'm guessing L == rotate left, F == hop forward and LOOP7(...) == '...'x7

El'endia Starman

Yeah, I haven't solidified my notation just yet. Sometimes, for loops, the exact number matters, and other times, it doesn't beyond some minimum number.

NieDzejkob

then I see two loops, two hops and one rotation

El'endia Starman

Oh, I missed one.

There, fixed it.

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder abrudz.github.io/lb/husk

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Sherlock9

Lordy I can't even figure out the 7-step for level 4

NieDzejkob

5:24 PM

@Sherlock9 nested loops are possible, it is also possible to change the iteration count

Sherlock9

Yeah, I'm terrible about spoiling myself

Dammit

Here's to the other levels

caird coinheringaahing

Does anyone here have experience registering to use the SE API?

Neil

oh, you can change the number of loops?

NieDzejkob

yup

flawr

@El'endiaStarman oh it cannot fall down:)

El'endia Starman

5:33 PM

Ohhh lookee here @user202729, spoiler: level 6 in 4 steps!

DJMcMayhem

@Adám Is that your page? Could I get V added?

Neil

well, I can do level 6, in 6 steps, without changing the size of the loops or attempting to jump into the void

flawr

@El'endiaStarman OH you can adjust the loop size!

Sherlock9

The bunny has anti-"jumping into the void" properties

AdmBorkBork

Dangit, I've so far got three 7-step solutions for #5

Neil

5:40 PM

Ｆ⁴«↷²Ｆ⁴«*↷²* Charcoal translation of my solution to level 6

Adám

@DJMcMayhem Is there a single regular (i.e. easily machine-parseable) list of commands?

DJMcMayhem

@Adám Not yet, but I could make one.

Adám

5:58 PM

@DJMcMayhem I can get various pieces from the wiki, but Insert mode has a broken link. Would it be easy for you to do? A table of Command, "Name" (i.e. usage), Description would be perfect. e.g.:

é	{count}é{char} 	i	Insert {char} before cursor {count} times. Synonym of {count}i{char}<esc>
ú	ú	z 	Sort, but you can specify flags and/or a pattern after you call it\n\núú\nSort the line

@DJMcMayhem Like that ^

DJMcMayhem

@Adám There are a couple things that might make it harder. First off, I'd really like to have the whole code-page covered, but not every byte is assigned yet. Can the unassigned bytes be left empty in "name" and "Description"? Also, V is modal, so lots of bytes have completely different affects depending on the mode the interpreter is in at the moment. Should I just pick one meaning, or list all of them? Also, where should aliases go in the table?

Another thing that might cause an issue is that a good amount of the code-page is unprintable. I'm not sure how much of an issue that would be

Adám

@DJMcMayhem Having the entire codepage is probably a bad idea, as it makes the bar even bigger. (Why do you need to type unassigned bytes?) But, yes, anything but the first column may be empty. Bytes can just occur twice if they have multiple meanings. I will arrange them in a singly entry like already the case with APL. What is an alias?

@DJMcMayhem That is more of an issue. I may be able to include them, but it may render funny. Do text fields accept them?

DJMcMayhem

6:13 PM

@Adám Because even though some of them don't have an associated command can still do things (for example, they can be in a string literal or a regex shortcut. For example, ô has no command, but matches a <TAB> character in a regex).

@Adám On the husk page, it says enter an alias and hit tab. Like cur<tab> enters ¤

@Adám TIO does (and SE chat 1/2 the time).

If a lot of these weird requests would be a pain to implement, I'd be ok if you'd rather not include V. I can enter all of these fine in vim, I just thought this might make it easier for other users

Adám

@DJMcMayhem Just list it as ô ô o matches <TAB> character in a regex

@DJMcMayhem Other than the unprintables, it doesn't seem hard. Husk only took a couple of minutes because I had an almost regular source. I just write small APL programs to transform the data to the required JSON.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Google's Hopping Bunny atomic-golf code-challenge On December 4, 2017, the Google Doodle was a graphical programming game featuring a bunny. The later levels were nicely non-trivial and they seemed like a great candidate for an atomic-golf challenge. Details Game There are four available mo...

Poke

6:52 PM

Judge bars Starbucks from closing failing Teavana stores

^ this is dumb

DJMcMayhem

What the crap?

A business is legally obligated to not close?

Poke

to not close and lose 15 million dollars over 5 months

Mr. Xcoder

:o... WTH? And the judge wasn't arrested or something?

Adám

7:12 PM

CMP: Which, if any, of the GitHub Pages themes should I use for abrudz.github.io/lb? strawpoll.me/14547596

Pavel

@Adám Minima, IMO

Adám

@Pavel ha, the only invalid choice. Clever!

Pavel

@Adám Why's it invalid?

Adám

@Pavel Because while on the list of themes I copied for the strawpoll, it can't seem to find it in GitHub's UI for selecting theme.

Poke

@Mr.Xcoder i assume it will be appealed

caird coinheringaahing

7:58 PM

:41539826 Jelly, 1 byte: Ḟ

ಠ_ಠ Why'd you delete it?

Pavel

@cairdcoinheringaahing Because any language where this isn't a builtin or extremely trivial doesn't have a reasonable representation for floats in the first place.

caird coinheringaahing

It is only a CMC

Pavel

Yeah, but there's no point to the CMC.

Unless you want to try doing it creatively and not concisely

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, I got 6 bytes in Add++: L,d1%_

If there isn't a floor builtin, most languages can modulo by 1 to get the float part, then subtract that from the original number

DJMcMayhem

8:14 PM

You could always try doing it in brain-flak :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel I found a language where it is more creative than concise:

> Input
>> ⌊1⌋
>> Output 2

Language is Whispers :P

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel Brain-flak, 38 + 2 == 40 bytes: {{}([{}]((((()()()){}())()){}{}){})}{}

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem What's the -cr for?

(What does it mean)?

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing -c == character mode (string input and output), -r == reverse mode (pop last input first)

I promise it's not related to Code Review :P

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem I'm guessing (as it takes string input) that you split on the .?

DJMcMayhem

8:20 PM

while peek():
    pop()
    push(pop() - chr('.')

# Implicit display

Pseudocode

Well, I guess it's actually chr('.') - pop()

V/Vim, 3 bytes: f.D

Ironically, both of the languages I have written are completely incapable of handling floats in anyway, so they have to resort to string manipulation

H.PWiz

@Pavel Hexagony, 3 bytes: ?!@

DJMcMayhem

Python can tie V and hexagony :) int

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Q: Visible Dice Faces

A traditional Western die is a cube, on which the integers 1 to 6 are marked on the faces. Pairs that add to 7 are placed on opposite faces. As it is cube, we can only see between 1 and 3 faces (inclusive)1 at any given time. Opposite faces can never be seen at the same time. Your task is to wr...

code-golf decision-problem

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, but that's not a full program :P The others are :P

DJMcMayhem

But it's a valid submission

I just got over 100 WPM on a typing test for the first time ever. \o/

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