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El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
9:01 PM
@muddyfish The program counter is kept in memory address 0. So you set that address to where you want the next instruction to be executed.
@HelkaHomba I actually hadn't linked it, but I did watch it before you linked it. :P
@NathanMerrill Yeah, seems to be really easy. Hmmm...I wonder if I could construct a webpage that cycles between two or three different things when you're not looking... :P
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
@Dennis yeah I was playing around inserting code into the string, but it does not always print the source which is what confused me about "payload capable", as a simple example “ṘVØV”ṘVprints “ṘVØV”00ṘV
does it not have to still be a quine with the payload?
 
Dennis
Dennis
@JonathanAllan No, as soon as you attach a payload, the output may (and will) differ. The whole point of adding a payload is to do something.
For example, you can extend payload capable quines to print the source code twice.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
so 0 is payload capable
just not proper
 
Dennis
Dennis
@JonathanAllan No, since you can't attach a payload that will form part of the output.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
OK, definition very confusing
 
feersum
feersum
9:08 PM
To me Jelly is not functional at all.
 
Dennis
Dennis
Yeah, Martin's a lot easier to grasp. It's also better imho. Quite often, non-payload-capable quines are a lot more interesting since they're something else than just the strandard quine + arbitrary payload.
 
feersum
feersum
Does it even have first-class functions?
 
Sherlock9
Sherlock9
Are links first-class functions?
 
Dennis
Dennis
googles first-class functions
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@HelkaHomba whoa
^^
 
feersum
feersum
9:09 PM
I mean functions that can be referred to without calling them
 
Helka Homba
Helka Homba
As in Python. i.e. functions are normal objects
 
uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC
uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC
yep
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
Martin's definition instantly rules out a one character quine
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
a first class function would be something like, compose(f,g) -> (x, y) -> f(g(x,y))?
 
Helka Homba
Helka Homba
@ConorO'Brien Nice to see you green again
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
9:10 PM
@HelkaHomba Thank you! It's good not to be high
 
Sherlock9
Sherlock9
@TimmyD Perhaps. I don't know Rust, though, so it may be difficult to do that
 
feersum
feersum
@ConorO'Brien Yes.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
@Dennis - anyway you think I should just delete 0?
 
Anonymous
@feersum Nowhere in the definition of functional programming is the requirement to have first-class functions. Functional programming is the paradigm where programs are written as evaluation of mathematical functions. Purely-functional is a more extreme version where those functions cannot have side effects. Tacit (like Jelly) is another related paradigm, where the functions are merely composed as part of a program, without identifying their arguments.
 
Dennis
Dennis
@feersum I read the definition, and no, Jelly doesn't have first class functions.
 
Maltysen
Maltysen
9:15 PM
@DJMcMayhem plz help with vim golf: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/92763/31343
 
Dennis
Dennis
@JonathanAllan Your call. Personally, I don't consider it terribly interesting.
 
Anonymous
Additionally, first-class functions are merely functions that can be used like other data types. Because Jelly programs entirely consist of concatenating and applying combinators to functions, I'd argue that they are first-class.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
@Dennis - yeah it's possible in a huge swathe of languages
 
Dennis
Dennis
@Mego But that's only possible at compile time. Not sure if that matters.
 
feersum
feersum
@Mego You can't use functions like other data types.
 
Anonymous
9:18 PM
@Dennis Not in the slightest.
 
Anonymous
Well, actually, probably
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
seriously?
ke he he
 
Anonymous
But still - first-class functions is not a requirement for FP - it's just a nice tool that many FP languages include.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
And I suppose that having first-class functions doesn't make a language functional?
 
Anonymous
Correct
 
Geobits
Geobits
9:21 PM
And having a downvote icon as an avatar doesn't make someone the top downvoter.
 
Dennis
Dennis
In a sense, function is the only data type of Jelly, so it's vacuously true that functions can be used like other data types.
 
Geobits
Geobits
It's just nice to have
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
...this is rather odd
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Dennis oh, nilads?
 
Anonymous
A language supports the functional paradigm iff it has the ability to create a program that is solely the result of evaluation of mathematical functions.
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
9:21 PM
functional programming then has nothing to do with functions
 
Anonymous
It has everything to do with functions
 
feersum
feersum
Whoa, when I used it I saw ints, floats, and arrays... apparently I was doing it wrong.
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
but rather, how much it uses immutable data types
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Mego what does "evaluation of mathematical functions" mean?
 
Dennis
Dennis
@ConorO'Brien Yes. Writing 0 actually creates lambda:0.
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
9:22 PM
" Functional programming is the paradigm where programs are written as evaluation of mathematical functions."
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Dennis and the results? are those also nilads?
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien foo(bar(baz()))
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
could I write a purely functional language without any user functions?
it seems like I can
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Mego oh! so a program that is composed of functions, without loops and such?
 
Anonymous
@NathanMerrill Lambda calculus
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
9:24 PM
right. therefore, functional programming has nothing to do with "functions" (as in the programming function)
 
flawr
flawr
@ConorO'Brien At least Haskell doesn't have any loops.
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
but rather with immutable data types
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien Correct. Specifically, mathematical functions (mappings between inputs and outputs), as opposed to programming "functions".
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@flawr it doesn't? +1 I really should start learning Haskell
 
Anonymous
Haskell supports purely functional programming, which is neat
 
flawr
flawr
9:24 PM
@ConorO'Brien You should indeed=)
 
Dennis
Dennis
@ConorO'Brien The results are accessed either tacitly or via ³ etc., which are also nilads.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Mego programming functions being stuff like "print" and "readline"?
 
Anonymous
@ConorO'Brien Yep, those are examples.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@Dennis oh, cool
@Mego awesome!
I'm learning so much today! Which is more than I can say for my school >_<
 
flawr
flawr
@ConorO'Brien Haskell does have "print" and "readline" but they are seperate from the "pure" functiosn.
 
Anonymous
9:26 PM
Yeah pure functions don't have side effects
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@flawr ah, yes, of course. what good would a language be without being able to see results?
 
flawr
flawr
Also actiosn like RNGS e.t.c. obviously can't be pure.
But there is a neat solution (that I still cannot fully grasph) in haskell=)
 
Anonymous
With implicit input and output, you could create a language that allows pure functional programs to be written
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
oh, true
@flawr a solution to what? RNG pure functions?
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Would someone be willing to simply run the following JS? It's an entry to the upvoter/downvoter challenge, but I can't test it because I ran out of quota. 
i=U=D=u=d=1;a="_vote_count";b="up"+a;c="down"+a;x=z=>z.items?(z.items.map(y=>y[e=y.user_id,b]>u?(u=y[b],U=e):y[c]>d?(d=y[b],D=e):0),document.write(`<script src="//api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users?page=${i++}&pagesize=100&site=codegolf&filter=!)RwcIF5Y1fm0fy4l*lW)XIeU&callback=x">\x3C/script>`)):alert([u,d]);x(1)
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
9:27 PM
@ETHproductions I can
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Warning: it will drain your quota
 
flawr
flawr
@Mego The "implicit" doesn't sound very functional.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
I don't use my quota often
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
you could have a purely functional RNG. You just pass in the RNG, and it returns (int/RNG with next state) pair
 
flawr
flawr
@ConorO'Brien a solution to the impurities=)
 
Anonymous
9:28 PM
@flawr The point is that the programs are pure functional, even if the language does stuff with side effects to meet that goal
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@ETHproductions ReferenceError: x is not defined
 
New Sandboxed Posts
New Sandboxed Posts
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

NonlinearFruitNatural Pi - The Front Nine W.I.P. ## Meta ## The big things are: - 3 more ways to calculate pi with nature - related pi theme/idea for back nine Introduction These challenges are simulations of algorithms that only require nature and your brain (and maybe some re-usable resources) to ...

 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ConorO'Brien Try it again please; I've modified it some.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@ETHproductions ok
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
Would I get suspended if I put a diamond at the end of my name?
 
flawr
flawr
9:29 PM
@NathanMerrill hmm, but that is on the one hand cumbersome to handle, and on the other hand I think you do not want your functiosn to be able to interfer with the seed, would you?
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
> Beta Decay ♦
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@BetaDecay Probably
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@ETHproductions 1,1 to alert
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Either that or a mod would remove it
@ConorO'Brien :(
Try this:
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@flawr yeah, its cumbersome, but technically, any call to random.next() interferes with the next call
 
Dennis
Dennis
9:30 PM
@BetaDecay That's not possible. You can only use alphabetical characters and whitespace in your username.
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
i=U=D=u=d=1;a="_vote_count";b="up"+a;c="down"+a;x=z=>z.items?(alert(JSON.stringify(z)),z.items.map(y=>y[e=y.user_id,b]>u?(u=y[b],U=e):y[c]>d?(d=y[c],D=e):0),document.write(`<script src="//api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users?page=${i++}&pagesize=100&site=codegolf&filter=!)RwcIF5Y1fm0fy4l*lW)XIeU&callback=x">\x3C/script>`)):alert([u,d]);x({items:[]})
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
@Dennis Oh right. So what counts as alphabetical characters?
 
Dennis
Dennis
Ask a dev. :P
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
I'd ping CJY but I'm not that interested
 
Anonymous
@BetaDecay lambda c:c.isalnum()
 
flawr
flawr
9:33 PM
@NathanMerrill also that seems as a very bad idea, if you e.g. want to evaluate a tree, and hand the seed down into multiple brances simultaneously, then all the branches of some node get the same seed.
Cause in haskell you cannot really enforce an order of execution.
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
@Mego Wow, that is a handy function
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@ETHproductions 1,1
 
Anonymous
Actually that apparently doesn't cover all of the Unicode characters with the Alphabetic property
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
@Maltysen :D \o/ yay more vim-golfers!
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@flawr true. you could call skip(n*m) on the nth branch, but then you need to know how many times the branch will call the randomizer m
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
9:35 PM
I commented some tips
 
flawr
flawr
@NathanMerrill Infinite trees ftw=)
 
Anonymous
unichars -ua '\p{Alphabetic}' will get you the whole list (of over 100k characters), using unichars from CPAN
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
 
Anonymous
@BetaDecay Python 3
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
actually, there's a better way. use nextInt() n times to construct n Random instances
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
9:37 PM
@ConorO'Brien One more try:
 
Anonymous
Python 3.4.3 (default, May  5 2015, 17:04:32)
[GCC 4.9.2] on cygwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> 'ᴍ'.isalnum()
True
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
i=U=D=u=d=1;a="_vote_count";b="up"+a;c="down"+a;x=z=>z.items?(alert(JSON.stringify(z)),z.items.map(y=>y[e=y.user_id,b]>u?(u=y[b],U=e):y[c]>d?(d=y[c],D=e):0),document.write(`<script src="//api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users?page=${i++}&pagesize=100&site=codegolf&filter=!)RwcIF5Y1fm0fy4l*lW)XIeU&callback=x">\x3C/script>`)):alert([u,d]);x({items:[]})
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
@Mego I was using Python 3
3.2
 
PhiNotPi
PhiNotPi
@muddyfish RAM register 0 corresponds to the program counter. The program jumps by writing to location 0.
 
Anonymous
@ETHproductions Holy alert spam, Batman!
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
9:38 PM
@ETHproductions {"items":[]}
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
although, that only works if nextInt() is a perfect random
 
Anonymous
@BetaDecay Was your terminal encoding set to UTF-8?
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@Mego Does it alert page after page of user data? If so, it probably works :)
 
Anonymous
@ETHproductions Yep
 
Beta Decay
Beta Decay
@Mego Probably
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
9:39 PM
@ConorO'Brien Any alerts past the first?
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
yes
many
 
Anonymous
"many" is an understatement
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Sorry about that. Try this version (only one alert): 
i=U=D=u=d=1;a="_vote_count";b="up"+a;c="down"+a;x=z=>z.items?(z.items.map(y=>y[e=y.user_id,b]>u?(u=y[b],U=e):y[c]>d?(d=y[c],D=e):0),document.write(`<script src="//api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users?page=${i++}&pagesize=100&site=codegolf&filter=!)RwcIF5Y1fm0fy4l*lW)XIeU&callback=x">\x3C/script>`)):alert([u,d]);x({items:[]})
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
Alex A is our top meta downvoter, but has a huge upvote/downvote ratio on main
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
InvalidStateError: An attempt was made to use an object that is not, or is no longer, usable
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
9:42 PM
also, its fascinating that both Peter Taylor and Geobits downvote more than they upvote (on main)
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ConorO'Brien What the heck?
No idea what that implies
 
Anonymous
@NathanMerrill There's a lot of stuff worth downvoting
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Fun fact: Geobits and Conor O'Brien are 2nd on the downvoter and upvoter lists, respectively.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
@ETHproductions me neither
@ETHproductions I'm not the first?
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ConorO'Brien Nope. That award goes to Martin.
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
9:43 PM
huh.
ah well
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
keep upvoting ;)
 
flawr
flawr
I'm not on the upvoting list, but I am on the downvoting list, what does that say about me?
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
how about ratio of upvotes to downvotes?
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
I'm probably on the "fewest votes over time"
(assuming they are still active)
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
@ETHproductions What is that/
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
9:48 PM
How do you display a float in the data explorer instead of an int?
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ It's supposed to find the top upvoter and downvoter on the site
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
@ETHproductions Where do you run it?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@ETHproductions If it's anything like PostgreSQL, ::float, I think.
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
It's giving me x is not defined
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ In your browser console should work
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
I had to use that for the TNBDE queries where I looked at proportions.
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
9:49 PM
@ETHproductions see ^^^
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
aha!
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ What browser?
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
@ETHproductions FF 48.0.2 on Win10
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@El'endiaStarman Ah, use 1.0 instead of 1
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Or that.
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
9:51 PM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ That's weird. It works for me
 
flawr
flawr
i'm still not happy with my challenge, do you honestly think that this works as a challenge?
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Using FF 48.0.2 on Win7
Edit: no it doesn't :P
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ open a new tab, enter about:blank as the URL, then run the program in the console.
 
betseg
betseg
hai
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Top upvote-to-downvote ratios (for users with >100 upvotes)
Spoiler: Peter Taylor is 2nd and Geobits is 3rd
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
and there are only 3 users that have more downvotes than upvotes
 
flawr
flawr
9:56 PM
@ETHproductions I'd say downvote to upvote ratio.
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@flawr whoops, typo
 
flawr
flawr
Hm, I need to catch up there.
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
@ETHproductions The thing keeps loading
No console errors though
 
flawr
flawr
@mbomb007 I'd love to write a comment on that answer=)
 
Nathan Merrill
Nathan Merrill
@ETHproductions I feel like there's a bug there...the 100th user has a ratio of 0.09
does all of the thousands of other users seriously have 10 times more upvotes than downvotes?
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
9:59 PM
i=U=D=u=d=1;a="_vote_count";b="up"+a;c="down"+a;x=z=>z.items[0]?(z.items[0]!=1&&z.items.map(y=>y[e=y.user_id,b]>u?(u=y[b],U=e):y[c]>d?(d=y[c],D=e):0),document.write(`<script src="//api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users?page=${i++}&pagesize=100&site=codegolf&filter=!)RwcIF5Y1fm0fy4l*lW)XIeU&callback=x">\x3C/script>`)):alert([u,d]);x({items:[1]})
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@ETHproductions How is Peter Taylor second? He has more downvotes than upvotes.
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Try ^^
@El'endiaStarman It was a typo; that should say downvote-to-upvote ratio.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@ETHproductions Oh, that makes a lot more sense. :P
 
Eric Tressler
Eric Tressler
I wrote a program to calculate sandpiles using symmetry and binary expansion, and it's pretty quick. It's not relevant to my posted question, though, because it's not golfed at all. I don't know what to do with it.
hm. I guess nothing; I found a page that lets you zoom around on the 2^30 sandpile. It would take me a million minutes to calculate that.
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
@ETHproductions Same, just keeps loading
 
Dennis
Dennis
10:12 PM
@JonathanAllan Found your comment by accident (comment notifications disappear when the post is deleted). While 0 is not a proper quine, your 6 byte solutions are not only.proper but payload-capable. I see no reason to delete those.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
@Dennis - I did not put an @tag to notify you. I suppose I could edit it to show just the payload capable ones...
 
Dennis
Dennis
The @ isn't needed if only one user has posted a comment.
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
:/ I hate reviewing a user's first post when it's totally ungolfed. I feel like a jerk saying "Welcome to our community! We're gonna delete you now"
 
Dennis
Dennis
Then don't. :P Explain what code golf is, suggest the obvious improvements, and post a link to the tips thread (if it exists).
Personally, I ignore NAA and VLQ flags until the post is at least a day old.
Wow, I'm rhe 5th top downvoter. (source)
 
Eric Tressler
Eric Tressler
What's the standard time frame for accepting an answer?
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
10:19 PM
Oh yeah.
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
@Dennis is NAA appropriate for ungolfed answers?
 
Dennis
Dennis
@EricTressler Something between a week and never.
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
And does that always get reviewed by a mod?
 
Dennis
Dennis
@DJMcMayhem Yes, as it violates a rule in the help center. VLQ flags are crap. Either use NAA or a custom reason.
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
wow Peter Taylor & geobits are harsh
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
10:22 PM
0_0 most of my flags are VLQ
Good to know
Haha, I'm 36th
 
Dennis
Dennis
@DJMcMayhem VLQ flags get cleared by edits, punishing the user for improving the post. It also comes with an automatic downvote if I mark it as valid.
@JonathanAllan I always think that I don't downvote enough, which is why I'm surprised by the 5th spot.
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
OK I'll stop using it then
 
Jonathan Allan
Jonathan Allan
a downvote for a new user actually has no rep effect although seeing the -1 straight away may feel pretty bad
 
Dennis
Dennis
Unless there's something seriously wrong with it, I don't downvote first posts. If they aren't fixed, they'll end up deleted anyway.
 
DJMcMayhem
DJMcMayhem
Speaking of flags, I'm getting really close to getting the reviewer badge. :D
Which would totally rock cause only four users have ever gotten it before.
 
Helka Homba
Helka Homba
11:00 PM
Why are my shortcut icons little people? ._.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
I dunno. Could have something to do with being in multiple groups, or shared on a network, or something?
 
quartata
quartata
11:28 PM
@El'endiaStarman @ETHproductions Is there no way to seed JS's PRNG?
(Sorry just pinging the two current users here that know JS)
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
182
Q: Javascript Random Seeds

weepyIs it possible to seed the random number generator (Math.random) in Javascript?

javascript random
 
quartata
quartata
Wonderful. As if my JS experience wasn't already bad enough I have to write a Mersenne Twister
I mean, that's not a big deal but still pretty disappointing :/
 
Conor O'Brien
Conor O'Brien
11:44 PM
@quartata I am current!!!
:P
 
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
11:55 PM
Print["This program wasn't written in",a=" Mathematica ",If[b=Now==Now,9,10],", it was built for",a,If[b,10,9],"!"]
^ Gives different output for Mathematicas 9 and 10
 
quartata
quartata
@zyabin101 Little arithmetic tells me I'm at about ~15k which really inflates my ego
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ OK, so obviously this is about some difference in Now between Mathematica 9 and 10 but I'm not sure what it is
You definitely win points for obfuscation
 
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