The Nineteenth Byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:00

XD

Quill

KILL YOUR FOUNDERS SUCCEED TO THE THRONE EMPIRE, EMPIRE, EMPIRE

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on February 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM

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Q: Sort items based on dependency

Goal Sort a list of items ensuring that each item is listed after it's specified dependencies. Input An array or array of integers, where each integer specifies the 0-based index of another item that this item must come after. The input may be an array or string or anything else human readabl...

Aqua Tart

FINE IF YOU’RE GOING TO BLOCK ADS WE’RE GOING TO PUT UP A PAYWALL! (OH FUCK I HOPE THEY DON’T CALL OUR BLUFF)

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on October 10, 2015 at 8:04 PM

I'm sorry I can't stop posting them

Zach Gates

ಠ_ಠ

Quill

IF JAVASCRIPT IS SO GREAT WHY DOES IT NEED JAVA TO WORK, GENIUS?

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on November 25, 2015 at 12:12 AM

Easterly Irk

03:02

roflmao

Quill

twitter is beautiful

Vihan

oh no, I have to do work but I'm stuck in here D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

PHP needs P to work too

Aqua Tart

.@codinghorror COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST EVIL TO THE CORE AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS JAVASCRIPT DEVELOPERS

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on September 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM in reply to codinghorror

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Whom is he following?

YOU'VE DONE SOME GREAT WORK HERE I CAN'T PAY YOU FOR IT NOW BUT WOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK GOOD ON YOUR RESUME

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on March 17, 2016 at 4:51 PM

Vihan

03:04

@AquaTart ಠ_ಠ

Aqua Tart

Oi, don't shoot the messenger.

Vihan

@PHP_CEO ಠ_ಠ

Aqua Tart

Better.

Vihan

@AlexA. @Doorknob @Dennis what is the minimum chat suspension time?

Aqua Tart

30 minutes

Easterly Irk

03:05

30 min.

Aqua Tart

(I think)

Easterly Irk

1 day is for account suspension.

Quill

@Vihan The formula is actually represented as Y=x*0

Aqua Tart

OK, I promise this is the last one.

WE SPENT 18 MONTHS MIGRATING FROM A MONOLITH TO MICROSERVICES RESULT: - GITHUB GETS PAID FOR MORE PRIVATE REPOS - FIND/REPLACE IS HARDER

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on May 30, 2015 at 3:16 AM

OK, I lied. Here's one more.

THE DAYS ARE LONG, BUT THE DECADES ARE SHORT UNLESS YOU’RE WRITING JAVASCRIPT IN WHICH CASE BOTH DAYS AND DECADES ARE NaN

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on April 29, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Dennis

@Vihan I think a kick-mute begins at 1 minute.

Minimum for manual suspension is 1 hour.

Quill

03:08

The mods/ROs can just move crap out of the room anyway :p

Vihan

@Dennis kick-mute?

Quill

oh, there's no ROs here. huh, TIL

Easterly Irk

All the ROs here are also mods.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Do we have a challenge to detect if the entire input is in all caps?

Easterly Irk

idts

Vihan

03:09

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no because if there was one it would be downvotes a lot because it's very trivial

Dennis

@Vihan More a slap on the wrist than an actual suspension.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vihan I need to make an upper-case related challenge so I can have my sock chat

Vihan

can a kick-mute time be changed to 30 minutes-ish?

Dennis

No.

Vihan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what does an upper-case related challenge have to do with that?

Doorknob

03:10

how about you just close the tab

Vihan

@Dennis D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Nevermind.

Vihan

@Doorknob it always reopens somehow....

Aqua Tart

Uhhh I take it this is your sock @PHP_CEO

Doorknob

Self-control

Self-control, an aspect of inhibitory control, is the ability to control one's emotions and behavior in the face of temptations and impulses. As an executive function, self-control is a cognitive process that is necessary for regulating one's behavior in order to achieve goals. A related concept in psychology is emotional self-regulation. Self-control is like a muscle. In the short term, overuse of self-control will lead to depletion. However, in the long term, the use of self-control can strengthen and improve over time. == Research == === Counteractive === Desire is an affectively cha...

Dennis

03:11

@PHP_CEO ಠ_ಠ

Vihan

@Doorknob I am not good at that.

The fact I use JavaScript should be a clear indicator

Aqua Tart

Just went to check on my Steam downloads and noticed this:

holy shit my internet is good

Vihan

O_o

Zach Gates

3.5 billion gigabits/sec

"good"

Vihan

> good

Doorknob

03:14

decent

Vihan

satisfactory

Doorknob

not bad

Zach Gates

meh

Vihan

acceptable

Easterly Irk

sucky

Alex A.

03:16

.@codinghorror COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST EVIL TO THE CORE AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS JAVASCRIPT DEVELOPERS

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on September 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM in reply to codinghorror

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Can you unprotect a question for me for a minute?

Alex A.

Which and why?

Vihan

13 mins ago, by Aqua Tart

.@codinghorror COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST EVIL TO THE CORE AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS JAVASCRIPT DEVELOPERS

Tweeted by PHP_CEO on September 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM in reply to codinghorror

Easterly Irk

@AlexA. @PHP_CEO @Vihan ಠ_ಠ

stahp

Alex A.

fucksumo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:17

The prime number one and so I can get rep

on my sock

Easterly Irk

no.

Vihan

@EasterlyIrk PHP_SUMO is an actual user

Easterly Irk

who created @PHP_CEO

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Moi.

Easterly Irk

he is now in the list

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ roflmao

Alex A.

03:17

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why not just answer a different challenge?

Vihan

really?

Easterly Irk

^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Suggestions?

Aqua Tart

I'm guessing my internet sucked so bad it underflowed...?

Vihan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Try the palindrome one

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:18

Link me?

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Uh... any that aren't protected? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vihan

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Q: Shortest code to determine if a string is a palindrome

A palindrome is some string that is spelled the same way both backwards and forwards. For instance, 'Eva, can I stab bats in a cave?' is a palindrome (EVACANISTAB | BATSINACAVE) For this code golf, using the language of your choice, determine if a given string is a palindrome or not. Edge Case...

code-golf palindrome

Aqua Tart

oh wow that's easy in Brachylog

Doorknob

s/ in.*//

Alex A.

lel

Aqua Tart

03:22

@Dootknob ok but in this case it's especially easy

Although stripping the whitespace is a little annoying

Vihan

I'm curious to see how much more productive I am when I leave this room...

Aqua Tart

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @PHP_CEO better only answer in PHP.

Alex A.

> Dootknob

doot

Aqua Tart

I just noticed I typed Dootknob. wtf

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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A: Shortest code to determine if a string is a palindrome

Jolf, 13 bytes, NONCOMPETING THIS VERY FINE LANGUAGE POSTDATES THE CHALLENGE. pEρI"[?.,!]"E THIS IS A MIGHTY-FINE SITE YOU HAVE HERE. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ISNT ENOUGH PHP. pEρI"[?.,!]"E pE LOOSE PALINDROME TEST (IGNORES CAPITALIZATION AND SPACES) ρI"[?.,!]"E STRIPP...

Aqua Tart

03:25

ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

no rep? :|

Doorknob

awww fSIxRT,Yk is cleverer than f>xYTxkT but a byte longer

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11 rep...

Aqua Tart

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ fails for things with control characters; the challenge specifies that those must be ignored

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bingo!

@AquaTart Like what?

Aqua Tart

03:28

0x00 to 0x19

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm very tempted to delete that as very low quality.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis Why?

Dennis

Have you noticed the caps?

Doorknob

@Dennis +1

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I fixed it, that was inappropriate.

Dennis

03:30

Better, but still a lot of caps.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Egad I'm an idot

It has 20 rep, why can't it chat?

Dennis

Caching?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

shouldiblamecaching.com

Oh, and I fixed it all the way

Well, I gotta go

bai

Zach Gates

bai

Doorknob

03:47

Jon Skeet has more reputation on Stack Overflow than our entire first page of users combined. O_o O_o O_o

(852,126 vs. 813,391)

Dennis

Lies!

Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom

311 2 6

code-golf fibonacci number sequence

Doorknob

> on Stack Overflow

Dennis

That doesn't count.

Doorknob

:P

Vihan

\o/ I have more reputation then Jon Skeet

finally.

Easterly Irk

03:51

roflmao

Alex A.

Why is "mao" italicized?

Rofl, Chairman Mao

Vihan

Rofl, Chairman Mayo

Alex A.

2

Zach Gates

o.o

A Nerd - I

I think Peter displayed amazing courage/stupidity when suggesting a golf for Mr. Skeet's code.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:57

What does Array#name mean in the context of programming documentation?

Alex A.

"The context of programming" is very broad

@ANerd-I I think Peter displayed knowledge and helpfulness in suggesting a golf. Just because Jon Skeet is a SO deity doesn't mean he isn't approachable or receptive to feedback. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vihan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it means Array's name I tihnk

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

._.

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ name method or property on the Array class

At least that's how Ruby's docs do it

A Nerd - I

@AlexA. I'd link to the Jon Skeet meme about his code editing itself but it appears that I failed to indicate that I was being facetious

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:59

So, if there was a function reverse that reverses an array that was a method, it would be referred to as Array#reverse?

Vihan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what's wrong with Array.reverse

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Could be, I suppose. Depends on the language.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vihan Because there's no such thing.

@AlexA. Cool, thanks

Aqua Tart

That's kind of a Ruby thing.

Alex A.

That's the only place I've seen it, yeah

Doorknob

04:02

I see it in lots of places

Java, C++, etc.

Alex A.

orlp?

Doorknob

hell yeah

1 1

Alex A.

hahaha

Zach Gates

Any lang-reqs?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

codingspecialty.blogspot.com

phase

04:14

4

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wat

also, russians

phase

Looking through some old microprocessor magazines my grandfather's brother has, and an ad for APL on Z80 processors was in it.

@AlexA. ^^^^

Alex A.

That's really cool!!

What a neat find

phase

It's funny to see that it was competing with Fortan and Basic back then.

Alex A.

> Write finished applications software in a fraction of the time

Zach Gates

04:17

and COBOL

phase

I've got 10 other magazines to go through, and a bunch of TI calculators to play with.

Alex A.

Yeah, writing APL is short, but managing production APL code sounds like a literal nightmare.

phase

Showing some APL code and saying it would take a lot more code to writ it in another language.

BYTE - the small systems journal, Volume 4 Number 4, April 1979

Zach Gates

Max Headroom, The Best Bits Ever!

►

Haha, I love Max Headroom

> If they think I'm endorsing car accessories, they've got another dipstick coming.

> I've got letters from fan-belts saying [...]

Mars Ultor

07:02

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You forgot Remix OS, and I was gonna vote for OSLinux (assuming it's a rethemed Mac/Linux)

Also.

Does anyone have a somewhat complete shareable folder of mac icons?

zyabin101 the Hated

07:16

hell yeah

7 5

algorithm arrays c++ knapsack-problem

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Q: Check if numbers from multiple arrays sum up to given numbers

I was trying to do this question: Given three integers: GA, GB, and GC(which represent apples, oranges, and bananas respectively) & N lines each consisting of three integers: A, B, and C, which represent the amount of apples, oranges, and bananas in that food, respectively. Check i...

c++ arrays algorithm knapsack-problem

ಠ_ಠ

Which functions are the most used in Julia?

^^^ may or may not be closed, I didn't check. Anyways, the post is locked right now.

Mars Ultor

07:32

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Depends, mutable = properties can be changed, mutator = setter, presumably mutate means using the setter to assign a new value

Mars Ultor

07:44

@Dennis Apparently, many CS graduates can do hardly any actual programming

Quill

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Q: How to abuse the Association Bonus

I figured out a method to abuse the Association Bonus, however I'm unsure whether or not this is a serious issue. Are there anti systems in place that prevent this? Prerequisites: 1 account with the Association bonus, and 1 account with 100 reputation on a different site. Step 1: Creat...

discussion reputation bounty user-accounts association

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08:01

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Q: Make a Snake Parser!

(This requires you read @chilemagic 's amazing "Take a break to make a Snake!") For an overview, snakes look like this: >>>v ☺ ^ v ^ >>>^ v ^ v ^<<<<<<<<< It uses the directions WASD to show directions for the snake, from the tail. Given that the snake doesn't backtrack o...

code-golf ascii-art

zyabin101 the Hated

08:50

Monking @Quill!

Quill

Hey there!

How's it going?

zyabin101 the Hated

nm, thanks for asking!

Lynn

09:26

Mars Ultor

@Lynn What

zyabin101 the Hated

@Lynn Congrats for paving the way for a boring (but still interesting) cat program. ಠ_ಠ Link?

Lynn

0

A: Simple cat program

Lazy K, 1 0 bytes As CatsAreFluffy pointed out, the empty program has the same semantics as the program I. From the grammar: Program ::= CCExpr CCExpr CCExpr ::= CCExpr Expr (CCExpr Expr) | epsilon (lambda (x) x) Old e...

flawr

@Lynn Really lazy.

flawr

09:41

Yep. Back in the old days, we just called that a "function". You kids today with your crazy "namespaces". Hey, get off my lawn! <shakes fist> — Vagrant Jun 10 '10 at 15:41

zyabin101 the Hated

I still don't know what to program for zyabinVI.

flawr

09:56

What is zyabinVI?

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr My experimental GitHub organization.

flawr

Is there a way to view the website?

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr zyabinVI.github.io

However, there's barely any content here.

flawr

D'oh.

I think I could have guessed that.

So what do you plan doing with this site?

sekrit -> c-krit

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr Obviously, add content - most importantly, links to main projects of the organization.

flawr

10:00

So what does this organization that comprises only you actually do?

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr Currently nothing.

flawr

That's not very much.

Some organizations even have a purpose.

So perhaps that is something you might work on first=)

Other than that, does an organization has participants or members?

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr Only me. :/

flawr

That was a general question about the wording=)

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr Also, thanks for the joke! I added it to the org's GitHub Pages website and now you became the second member of the org! :D

Your GitHub username should be flawr, yes?

@flawr should receive their invite in the mail in a few minutes. They start with read access to all repositories until the week ends.

Don't forget to accept the invite!

flawr

10:20

Omg I'm forced to join a organization with dubious purposes. Isn't that a violation of the UN human rights convention?

PS: I don't know github. I only use it to star projects and for gists.

zyabin101 the Hated

Okay, you may ignore the invite, but you only have until tomorrow until it's cancelled.

mınxomaτ

@flawr Orgs are insanely useful to host a bigger project that spans multiple repos. You get one extra site (from github.io) and you can add other services (like GitBooks) using the name of the orga, and not your own nickname ;)

flawr

Oh, I did not get that those are structures of github itself!

GitBooks sounds cool

Except tha tthere is a "git" in it^^

zyabin101 the Hated

@flawr gitbook.com

flawr

Does anyone here know C++?

mınxomaτ

10:35

@flawr github.com/integrations/feature/code

Mars Ultor

@flawr Me, a bit, and there will almost certainly be someone good at C++ here.

flawr

Well I am a total newb.

I have a file main.cpp

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

#include "question3.h"

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
cout << "Hello World!" << endl;
return 0;
}

And a header file "question3.h"

#ifndef QUESTION3_H
#define QUESTION3_H

#include<string>

bool isSubstring(string a, string b);



#endif // QUESTION3_H

And I get an error that "stirng was not declared in this scope"

Pointing at the "string a"

Mars Ultor

Oh

flawr

Any idea why?

Mars Ultor

Use std::string

Also, using namespace std; after your includes

flawr

10:41

@MarsUltor I do have that in the 'main'

Do I really need the #include<string> then?

Mars Ultor

@flawr Then using std::string instead of string should be enough.

@flawr No, string isn't a file.

flawr

Strangely I was told to write #include<string>

Mars Ultor

Wait

flawr

Well thank you very much so far!

Ok, waiting=)

Mars Ultor

Wait, apparently you need it

It may work without the include, but use it just in case (otherwise it will probably only work in certain conditions).

flawr

10:43

It seems to work perfectly without.

Mars Ultor

@flawr Link. iostream may be importing it for you, but you should include the #include <string> just to be sure it is always included.

flawr

Ok, Ill do that then.

Thank you very much for your help!

I'm attending a lecture that teaches c++, but I am overwhelmed by all the things you have to consider...

Mars Ultor

I'm trying to learn as little C++ as possible until I want to/need to for any reason. :P

flawr

Up to now I tried to do the same=)

Quill

meta.stackexchange.com/posts/275997/revisions

flawr

10:53

@MarsUltor Strangely when I write double foo(string word="word"){return 1.0;} it compiles =/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wat

Mars Ultor

@flawr Um. Maybe you can remove the std:: if you put using namespace std; in the header file instead?

@flawr Actually

flawr

Ok I think I just do not get what is processed in which order.

Mars Ultor

@flawr Headers included are pretty much added to the top of the file - any includes in them will also be includes in the .cpp file, and any public functions in them can be accessed by the file.

flawr

but in the coresponding cpp file I have to write #include "headerfile.h" ?

LegionMammal978

11:01

I could never figure out C++

Mars Ultor

@flawr But always include namespaces in headers, because it's a good practice.

LegionMammal978

@MarsUltor Well, CR specifically states not to do that...

Mars Ultor

@LegionMammal978 ?

@LegionMammal978 Yeah

LegionMammal978

Code Review

flawr

Oh ok, now I do include

#include <iostream>
#include<string>
using namespace std;

in every header file and it works.

Mars Ultor

11:02

@LegionMammal978 ^^^^^^

@flawr Not a good practice

1 min ago, by Mars Ultor

@flawr But always include namespaces in headers, because it's a good practice.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I don't like some of CR's practices.

Mars Ultor

The link says so, and so does CR.

flawr

Well now I am really confused. What should I and shouldn't I include in the headers?

Mars Ultor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Some. But some of them are common practices used by everyone in general as well.

flawr

And what should be included in the main?

LegionMammal978

11:04

@flawr Just don't use std

Mars Ultor

@flawr Don't include using namespace in the headers

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MarsUltor That's true, but they suggest using multiple var statements for variables in javascript, which is beyond ugly.

Mars Ultor

> One side note: it is bad manners to put "using namespace" declarations in header files. It forces all includers of that header file to use that namespace, which might result in naming ambiguities that are hard to fix. This practice is called "namespace pollution." Instead, always use the fully prefixed names in header files (std::string not string) and save the using declarations for the source files.

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Ugly? Ugly?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

var x = 3;
var y = 6;
var z = 9;

var x = 3, y = 6, z = 9;

var x = 3,
    y = 6,
    z = 9;

LegionMammal978

11:06

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But say you have something like

var x = 5;
var y = x * 67;

versus

var x = 5, y = x * 67;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What's wrong with that?

Mars Ultor

@LegionMammal978 No

var x = 5,
    y = x * 67;

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It gets confusing for people who have ever used statically-typed languages

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I wasn't aware I needed to appease the static-type-users...

Mars Ultor

@LegionMammal978 JS is not aimed towards statically-typed language users.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:09

>_>

^^

LegionMammal978

Well it's what I've got '_'

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

CR isn't perfect, and can have bad suggestions.

Mars Ultor

Especially since it is a scripting language. It is meant to be relatively fast to write, and having static types usually doesn't help writing speed.

LegionMammal978

I know, but it takes longer to read

And that's what CR is about, right?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

For people who are used to static-typed languages.

JavaScript programmers can read JavaScript fine.

LegionMammal978

11:11

Let me find a better example

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Okay

LegionMammal978

Found one, from my (broken) Spacewars bot

var x = game[info.team + "_x"],
    y = game[info.team + "_y"];
var dir = game[info.team + "_rot"] * Math.PI / 180,
    delta = Math.PI / 36,
    g = info.grav(x, y, game);
var l_nx = Math.round(Math.min(Math.cos(dir + delta)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + x + g[0],
    l_ny = Math.round(Math.min(Math.sin(dir + delta)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + y + g[1],
    s_nx = Math.round(Math.min(Math.cos(dir)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + x + g[0],

It makes sense (at least to me) to split it into multiple declarations

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yes, of course. What I have a problem with is not that but using a var statement for each variable.

LegionMammal978

It also gets annoying if your editor indents it to an undesired level (bringing it out of alignment)

> This is supposed to go in the direction of the least obstacles. However, knowing my JS coding skills, it ~~will probably fail~~ is failing horribly for the first twenty iterations.

Mars Ultor

@LegionMammal978 It's easier on the eyes, you don't have var in the same place every single line. If tie code is formatted well, it should be easy to tell where it ends. (well partly meaning enough line breaks)

Good spacing > multiple var statements

@LegionMammal978 Um. How?

LegionMammal978

11:19

That was my comment on the entire program :p

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Bad spacing:

var x=3,y=x*3/4>>3,z=~y/z<<3|3^43;
















alert(x+y+z);

Mars Ultor

Good spacing:

var x = game[info.team + "_x"],
    y = game[info.team + "_y"],

    dir = game[info.team + "_rot"] * Math.PI / 180,
    delta = Math.PI / 36,
    g = info.grav(x, y, game),

    l_nx = Math.round(Math.min(Math.cos(dir + delta)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + x + g[0],
    l_ny = Math.round(Math.min(Math.sin(dir + delta)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + y + g[1],
    s_nx = Math.round(Math.min(Math.cos(dir)
               * game.engineThrust, game.speedLimit)) + x + g[0];

(I think.)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Today is Friday.

Mars Ultor

Fixed.

flawr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ stereospaced?

LegionMammal978

11:22

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Golfing:

var x = 3, y = 0, z = 40;
alert(43);

Challenge: Find a context in which the two snippets are not equivalent

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Or just alert(43)

alert=x=>x.

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ But you could use x, y, z afterwards

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Context found.

@LegionMammal978 True, true.

Well, I have to go to school now.

LegionMammal978

But then neither snippet would alert anything

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

BAIII

(Sorry, seems like an interesting challenge.)

flawr

11:24

@LegionMammal978 What two snippets?

Mars Ultor

@LegionMammal978 Context?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ < This one @flawr

LegionMammal978

@flawr Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ's "bad spacing" example vs. my golfed version

var x=3,y=x*3/4>>3,z=~y/z<<3|3^43;
alert(x+y+z);

3 mins ago, by LegionMammal978

var x = 3, y = 0, z = 40;
alert(43);

Mars Ultor

ಠ_ಠ

Spam

flawr

Lol, perhaps in the context where 3==4

LegionMammal978

But then neither would work

Mars Ultor

11:26

How does z reference itself?

flawr

I wondered every now and then what a programming language would look like where you could assign values to numbers.

Mars Ultor

@flawr Can't you do that in some languages?

flawr

I'm not aware of any

Mars Ultor

@flawr Well, in many you can reassign the default I/O functions

zyabin101 the Hated

@MarsUltor Shtriped

LegionMammal978

11:29

@MarsUltor I mean, find two strings s1 and s2 such that s1+s2 is a valid JavaScript program and s1+<snippet>+s2 is a valid JavaScript program that, for some strings s3 and s4, the programs s1+<snippet>+s3+s2+s4 give different output for different snippets.

Am I clear now?

Mars Ultor

@zyabin101theHated Technically, Shtriped is using strings that resemble numbers as variables.

@LegionMammal978 No?

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