The Nineteenth Byte

Quill

6:00 PM

The north pole is same as America, yes?

Alex A.

Yes

@Quill Relevant

Lynn

@Dennis I've wondered about what exist means, though

Like, I could write a PHP script that dynamically serves a Pyth-prefix-interpreter for some given prefix

Quill

@AlexA. my sides are in orbit

Roujo

@Lynn Even better: write it in Pyth, then call it on itself! Ultimate golfing! =D

Alex A.

@Lynn "Could" being the operative word. Given a choice, why would you ever choose PHP?

Moisés Soares

6:05 PM

Hey people, how is it going?

Alex A.

@Quill I do not understand what this means

@MoisésSoares Hello!

Lynn

2016 is the year of server side Pyth CGI.

Quill

@AlexA. knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-sides

Roujo

@AlexA. E laughed so much that his sides hurt, then launched and ended up in stable Earth orbit.

@Lynn I do agree that it's magnitudes more useful than client-side CGI.

Dennis

@Lynn That's why MetaGolfScript is its very own loophole.

Alex A.

6:07 PM

> E

Quill

Alex A.

haha

Roujo

re: sides and orbits and such, I watched this video yesterday to great effect

Quill

ready to post? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/8253/8478

Lynn

6:14 PM

This is amazing, Roujo

Roujo

@MartinBüttner Nitpicking: is abc a rhyming scheme if there's no actual rhyme in it?

@Lynn It truly is wonderful, isn't it =P

Martin Büttner

> Changed it from "word structure" to "rhyme scheme", but if anyone knows another interesting name for them, let me know.

:P

Roujo

@MartinBüttner Ah, got it. Yeah, I can't think of a better word. Nitpicking rescinded. ^^

PhiNotPi

@MartinBüttner I was thinking about your idea for a cup-stacking data structure, and realized what a horrible idea it is.

Martin Büttner

thank you :D

PhiNotPi

6:19 PM

I kinda want to describe the idea as "non-local" as in you can't simply "insert a code snippet" into the program, doing so would absolutely destroy the the program's functionality.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Anybody here know C?

Alex A.

still a piece of garbage

►

I Can Haz Hats

a bit

Alex A.

I love Bill Wurtz

That Japan video was highly informative, @Roujo.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What does static char name[number] = {...} do?

Alex A.

6:22 PM

@PhiNotPi ahahahahaha I love how direct and rude that is XD

I Can Haz Hats

is it inside a function?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

no, it's in the main part of the program

I Can Haz Hats

it initiates a static list of characters called "name" with "number" elements which is equal to the stuff in the brackets

Moisés Soares

You asked if The north pole is same as America, didn´t you?

Roujo

@AlexA. Yup, learned a bunch and was entertained and discovered who Bill Wurtz was! Ended up spending part of the evening queuing his 10-second videos on the TV with my wife. Good times. =P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:24 PM

Ah, cool!

I Can Haz Hats

static variables in functions keep their value across calls. static global variables are limited in scope to the file they are declared in

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And I have a string "\002s,\266" What does this mean?

Dennis

Those are octal escapes. They refer to the characters with code points 2 and 182.

I Can Haz Hats

"\nnn" is the nnn as an octal

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, cool!

Thanks, that helps.

I'm converting this to JavaScript

Quill

6:26 PM

lol youtube.com/watch?v=VGQSVuNy1r4

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 9 mins ago, by Shog9

Perhaps 6-8 weeks is what folks really mean when use the phrase "pregnant pause"

I Can Haz Hats

Does anyone know if we have a meta post that clearly defines what a duplicate is on this site? The help center definition seems lacking "This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please edit this question to explain how it is different or ask a new question."

Quill

that's the help center definition everywhere

I Can Haz Hats

I know it is. I think it probably fits true QA sites better

Martin Büttner

@ICanHazHats just like 80% of the rest of the help centre :/

I Can Haz Hats

yeah. I was hoping we had a meta post that was clearer. I haven't been able to find one though. I may just make one and see if someone closes it as a dupe.

VoteToClose

6:34 PM

It's a duplicate if the main algorithm of a challenge is the same.

Martin Büttner

@ICanHazHats well there's an answer of mine that is often cited as consensus... let me go find it

I Can Haz Hats

The feel i got is that "If you can trivially change entries of an old challenge to fit a new challenge, then the new challenge is a dupe"

Martin Büttner

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A: Are two questions duplicates if they have different scoring rules?

I think it's a bit unfortunate that this question was asked in the context of two rather similar scoring systems and is now used as a reference on community consensus. I agree with the existing answers, that a question is a duplicate if answers from an old one can be reused on the new one. Howev...

yes, that's pretty much it

this question was specifically about differences in scoring, but I think the actual policy I suggest at the end is what we've been using in general

I Can Haz Hats

okay thanks, yeah I saw that question, but it didn't seem to be what I was looking for, so I don't think I read all the answers. And I wasn't sorted by votes, so I missed that one

Honestly, that seems important enough to merit a specific meta post on just the definition. For ease of reference and so people can find it easier.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

char verbs[256] does what?

I Can Haz Hats

6:38 PM

makes an array of chars that is 256 elements long that is called "verbs"

VoteToClose

^ Almost ninja'd.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ugh I'm having such a hard time with C

int smaz_compress(char *in, int inlen, char *out, int outlen) {
    unsigned int h1,h2,h3=0;
    int verblen = 0, _outlen = outlen;
    char verb[256], *_out = out;

Creates a function that returns an int?

I don't understand pointers tho

I Can Haz Hats

yea

that is a major part of C that is probably gonna be hard to explain

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

How do I convert it to a lang without pointers?

oh wait

*out is an output buffer

VoteToClose

How is @DoNG still on the starboard?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:41 PM

I get it now

Martin Büttner

@VoteToClose because we're all very mature in here.

4

VoteToClose

gets pinned

Dennis

And it isn't even the first time.

Dec 27 '15 at 20:08, by Dennis

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ is bitwise xor in C, right?

Dennis

Yes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:46 PM

thanks

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ smaz is terrible don't bother with it

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Q: Cycling with Rubik's

While idly twisting my Rubik's cube around, my son noticed that it kept going back to the solved state. I'm pretty sure he thought this was some sort of voodoo magic at first, but I explained that if you keep repeating the same sequence of moves, it will always return to its original state. Event...

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Q: Enumerate rhyme schemes

A "rhyme scheme" is a string of letters a to z, such that the first occurrences of the characters are in ascending order (without gaps), starting from a. For example (with first occurrences marked): abccdbebdcfa ^^^ ^ ^ ^ The number of rhyme schemes of length N is given by the Bell numbers B...

code-golf combinatorics

VoteToClose

Vote to close as not objective:

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A: Be clearer on what a beta site needs to graduate

Executive Summary Creating a "Checklist" of items that guarantee graduation will cause certain members of communities to aim toward achieving the checklist rather than focusing on site quality. The emphasis should be less on numbers, and more on what defines a healthy community, with numbers as...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata ...

quartata

I tried it once and it doesn't compress Hello World at all

VoteToClose

6:47 PM

Oh, hey, I'm at over 5000 SE rep. \o/

Don't bother with it

suggestion?

What is smaz?

@Dennis A compressor

@Geobits you posted a thing D:

2

quartata

6:49 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Base 256 -> Bijective Base 96, shoco or LZstring

Dennis

@quartata Huh, when I googled it, my browser said I had already visited the website...

Ah, right. shoco references it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Which is the best?

Geobits

@MartinBüttner I did. And it's based on a true story this time ;)

Alex A.

@MartinBüttner D: the end is upon us

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Depends.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:50 PM

Short English strings.

VoteToClose

BTW, interesting idea for the question on Ubuntu versions, what about a JS script running on this page under Table of versions?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Javascript or JScript?

VoteToClose

Javascript. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

just making sure.

Zgarb

@MartinBüttner Does this mean it should be downvoted?

VoteToClose

7:05 PM

62

A: Patch the Image

AutoIt, VB Introduction This is an implementation of the Object Removal by Exemplar-Based Inpainting algorithm developed by A. Criminisi, P. Perez (Cambridge Microsoft Research Ltd.) and K. Toyama (Microsoft) [X]. This algorithm is targeted at high-information images (and video frames) and aims...

O>O

DAMN.

Next year's best answer award?

Geobits

@Zgarb I tried downvoting it myself, but it wouldn't let me.

5

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Also, what happens when you get to Z... Z....? What goes next?

Zgarb

@Geobits Tragic.

Geobits

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It goes to ABAB, clearly. Awesomely Bold African Bonobo :D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits "Hey, I just Awesomely Bold!" "...great?"

-15

Q: Downvoting needs to change

As shown by a recent challenge, once a few people have downvoted a question (say, three or four) everyone else thinks that they should downvote too leading to incredibly low scores. I think we need a reform on how we downvote and/or what we downvote on. This will stop people from becoming dishea...

discussion voting

LOCK IT NOW

Alex A.

7:14 PM

status-declined There's no reason to lock it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

:(

but -15

Alex A.

Doesn't mean it should be locked. Locking is for things that are no longer on topic but remain historically significant, like code trolling.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

::(

X3

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Geobits

That post is the original -15 anyway, so it's already been immortalized.

Alex A.

7:16 PM

The original -15 was his answer to that.

Speaking of him, he hasn't been around in quite a while. His name doesn't even autocomplete in chat.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

D:

@BETADECAY

:(

I gotta stop using emoticons >:|

Geobits

> Last seen Jan 27 at 18:08

He might be dead.

Alex A.

Isn't he the one that made the "Peter is dead" challenge?

Geobits

Alex A.

>_>

VoteToClose

7:20 PM

Where is Beta, anyway?

Did he just sign off and never come back? :c

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

we dun kno :(

TimmyD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Reminds me of an ASCII Band-Aid ... ( : : [ ] : : )

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(::[]::) golf that whitespace

Alex A.

That's a less effective Band-Aid

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ -1 for not sufficient bandaid size.

TimmyD

7:21 PM

Yeah, but now it's one of those dinky little ones that you can't use for anything and would be better off just using some superglue.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose (:::::::::::[]:::::::::::)

Geobits

.... But that's just more sticky part :(

Alex A.

@TimmyD Any good doctor keeps superglue handy to seal up wounds.

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The pad is still too small, it'd be like putting a foot-long bandaid on a paper cut.

TimmyD

Superglue is actually really common in medicine.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7:22 PM

@VoteToClose (::::::::[____]::::::::)

Geobits

You can only golf whitespace out if it isn't functional :D

VoteToClose

\o/

Geobits

I got my scalp superglued after I started bleeding all over stuff once.

TimmyD

@Geobits Else every Whitespace program would be 0 bytes.

VoteToClose

sigh Is it sad that I really would like to have silent pings back just so I can ping @DoNG?

Geobits

7:23 PM

Yes.

VoteToClose

Ouch.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Can haz now plz?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose applies

VoteToClose

\o/

Alex A.

@Geobits ._.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

[‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾\____
[ SUPERGLUE ))))}}>>-
[__________/‾‾‾‾

[‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾\____
[ SUPERGLUE ))))}}>>-
[__________/‾‾‾‾

Geobits

7:25 PM

It wasn't quite bad enough for stitches. It works really well, but it's a pain in the hair.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lel

chat mini-challenge: make the coolest printable ASCII text-art sword you can. pop-con text-art

VoteToClose

> strict-lower-ASCII ?

Range plz?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose space to tilde

Geobits

t

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Closed as art contest

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7:27 PM

and newlines

VoteToClose

xD

TimmyD

daalooooooz

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Reopened as "this is chat"

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Closed as #yolo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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Geobits

7:28 PM

Define "coolest". Coldest temperature (meaning less light emitted by the monitor I guess)?

VoteToClose

cxxx{}:::::::>

TimmyD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Rules changed after you already received answers. -1

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ...

@TimmyD :(

-|-------

7:29 PM

@Geobits Golfed sword. +1

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits No, closest to 0K

@VoteToClose I do this in my free time :P

"doodling"

Roujo

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How about -1K?

Geobits

Does "closest to 0K" mean something different than "coldest temperature" that I don't know?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits Just more precise ;)

@Roujo No such thing... K = kelvin

Geobits

K = kilo

VoteToClose

7:30 PM

cxxxx:}==============================================>

Roujo

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was kidding, although there is such a thing as a negative K

Negative temperature

In physics, certain systems can achieve negative temperature; that is, their thermodynamic temperature can be expressed as a negative quantity on the Kelvin or Rankine scales. In colloquial usage, "negative temperature" may refer to temperatures that are expressed as negative numbers on the more familiar Celsius or Fahrenheit scales, with values that are colder than the zero points of those scales but still warmer than absolute zero; this usage is not treated in this article. A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If...

Alex A.

There's also no such thing as -1 C, where C = Calvin, because one does not simply downvote Calvin's Hobbies.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Roujo wat

Alex A.

@Roujo TIL physics is weirder than I thought

Roujo

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Geobits

7:32 PM

-1

Q: Goin' Code Bowlin'

Your task in this challenge is to write a program that prints the phrase Code Bowlin' to stdout, or your language's usual output area. This is a code-bowling challenge, not code-golf, so the goal is to make your program as many bytes as possible. The catch is that you must write your program suc...

hello-world metagolf code-bowling

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose Image not found

Roujo

@AlexA. Negative resistance is also a thing, so yes, physics is weird

Negative resistance

In electronics, negative resistance (NR) is a property of some electrical circuits and devices in which an increase in voltage across the device's terminals results in a decrease in electric current through it. This is in contrast to an ordinary resistor in which an increase of applied voltage causes a proportional increase in current due to Ohm's law, resulting in a positive resistance. While a positive resistance consumes power from current passing through it, a negative resistance produces power. Under certain conditions it can increase the power of an electrical signal, amplifying it. Negative...

VoteToClose

That moment you realize it spells "taw". -.-

Alex A.

@Geobits Doesn't count because it has 2 delete votes; one more and it won't exist.

TimmyD

@Geobits Yeah, but he also vote-to-close'd his own question ...

Alex A.

7:35 PM

Speaking of which, lol at the review

3 close, 3 reopen

Geobits

Funny enough, I didn't even downvote that one. I must have missed it somehow. I was originally looking for this one that got quite a few.

5

Q: How can I scratch lottery tickets?

So here's the thing. I tend to keep my nails trimmed pretty short, and I don't often have coins in my wallet. Those were always the top two ways to scratch off lottery tickets that I've been told. Problem is, I find myself in possession of a scratch ticket, and I want to know if I've won the big...

substitute-tool

> A: Anything flat

PhiNotPi

Woo! Tornado warning!

Geobits

Where is that? I know there were some in Alabama area recently.

PhiNotPi

SC

Geobits

Good luck, and see you in Oz ;)

PhiNotPi

7:41 PM

I'm currently chillaxing in the hallway of a building.

TimmyD

@Geobits Holy cow ... the California Lottery has scratch-off-fobs

Alex A.

Geobits = munchkin confirmed?

Geobits

I'm about 6'2", so it depends on your definition of munchkin I guess.

Liam

Oh yeah well I'm 6'3"

Geobits

Ah, so I guess I am a munchkin.

Quill

7:43 PM

Userscript idea: replaces chat message content with a ninja when you get ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Well I'm 5'6"

TimmyD

How's the weather down there?

Alex A.

@Geobits Geobits and Alex same height confirmed

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yes, but it suggests the more entertaining question "How do I scratch lottery tickets if I'm naked when I buy them?" — christutty 13 hours ago

quintopia

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ teeth. right?

Alex A.

7:45 PM

If one has managed to purchase lottory tickets while nude, that person is clearly a societal wizard and should have no problem finding something with which to scratch the ticket.

Lynn

I'm 1.01515 Conors O'Brien tall.

quintopia

oh wait. naked, nails-trimmed and teeth-pulled, right?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Lynn "Conors O'Brien"?

Alex A.

1.01515 of you

Martin Büttner

@Geobits abstract-algebra for your challenge maybe?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7:46 PM

I know, just wondering about pluralization

Alex A.

So she's what, like an inch taller than you?

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ wrap everything in brackets and add s to the end

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'd think "Conor O'Briens" but maybe that's just me

TimmyD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Maybe it's like mothers-in-law or attorneys-general

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill I wish I could do that.

quintopia

7:47 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it sounds nearly correct. The correct plural is Cᴏɴᴏʀs O'Bʀɪᴇɴ of course

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Quill

> (Conor O'Brien)s

Alex A.

Conors O'Brien sounds way more Irish

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ this is tru

I've lost touch

I need to stay away from the American scum

;)

Quill

I hear Australia is really nice

Martin Büttner

7:49 PM

@Geobits also your "third case" is off-by-one unless you count 0-based.

Alex A.

@Quill I hear there's an entire western part that nobody's ever been to

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Next tag badge:


 code-golf



377/400 score

Quill

> // i don't know what this means but doorknob's code has it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

5

this is not what comments are for

Alex A.

Sure it is

VoteToClose

^

TimmyD

7:50 PM

// DON'T DELETE THE NEXT LINE!

Quill

> // thanks doorknob

Roujo

// DON'T REMOVE THIS COMMENT

Alex A.

You're kindly informing the reader of the code that you don't know why you've included something, but it works. Perhaps that person could offer an explanation or advice for improvement.

Quill

> // ((glares at @AlexA.))

PhiNotPi

// literally evil

Roujo

7:50 PM

// magic lol

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I was working on a code project with someone I don't like, so I encoded my comments in brainfuck, whitespace, and unary (ₒ_ₒ)ʷʰᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵗ, where ᵃ was the unary identifier.

Alex A.

// The code below is automatically generated. Any changes made will be lost.

quintopia

@Quill i will put this in all python programs from now on

Alex A.

^^ No one will touch your code

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quintopia wait what?

PhiNotPi

7:51 PM

// pretty sure this works due to a compiler-specific bug

quintopia

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ can't wait. have to head to work. later!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quintopia Bye!

Roujo

@AlexA. Nice one. The perfect crime. =P

Alex A.

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A: Generate 100 Java Tuple classes

R - 199 132 123 118 bytes Version 4 p=paste0;for(i in 1:10)cat(p("class Tuple",i," {public Object ",toString(sapply(0:(i-1),function(x)p("_",x))),";}\n")) Version 3 p=paste0;for(i in 1:8)cat(p("class Tuple",i," {public Object ",p(sapply(0:(i-1),function(x)p("_",x)),collapse=","),";}\n")) V...