The Nineteenth Byte

Geobits

9:00 PM

But great at bowling?

Gabriel Benamy

that's one hell of a question

Geobits

Who in their right mind doesn't know how many baskets they want to use, anyway? What are you splitting them up for, Lori? Use that many baskets.

Gabriel Benamy

Lori needs to have her head examined

El'endia Starman

Maybe the true answer is a superposition of 5 baskets and 7 baskets.

ETHproductions

What if the baskets can only hold 4 peaches each? 0_0

feersum

9:02 PM

She's the caterer for a crypto conference.

Geobits

Hmm, well I guess it has to be seven. After all, 5 OR 7....

Poke

I can carry 35 peaches in 1 basket. Lori is weak

flawr

@Geobits "distribute 35 peaches equally into baskets" does that mean that each basked gets an equal amount of each peach?

trichoplax

I hope you're sending all these varied answers back to school to teach them a lesson (or several)

Gabriel Benamy

35 = (6 + i)(6 - i)

Geobits

9:04 PM

@trichoplax If I thought it would help, I might. I'm certain these problems aren't generated there, though.

Gabriel Benamy

she needs 6 +/- sqrt(-1) baskets

flawr

@GabrielBenamy Why dont you set i=1?

trichoplax

@Geobits No they have experts in a central location for that

Gabriel Benamy

because i is the imaginary unit

ETHproductions

Imaginary baskets are a child's specialty.

flawr

9:05 PM

No, you have no idea, i=1.

Gabriel Benamy

as long as |i| = 1, the solution is valid

Geobits

@trichoplax No, the 35 experts are distributed equally between some number of locations.

flawr

Go ask the romans, they knew even 2k years ago.

@GabrielBenamy Nope, take "i" = exp(i*pi/3)

trichoplax

@GabrielBenamy Clearly the correct answer is 6+i since you can't have a negative imaginary number of peaches

Yodle

@Geobits To get back at them, just name minibits #2 '); DROP TABLE Students;--

Gabriel Benamy

9:07 PM

so it's decided? she needs 6 + i baskets

Poke

6+i baskets each with 6-i peaches?

sounds correct to me

flawr

Why not 4 baskets and 8.75 peaches per basket?

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Gabriel Benamy

oh wait

I can't multiply

Poke

@flawr We don't know how long the peaches will need to stay in baskets and they'll last longer as whole peaches

flawr

9:10 PM

@Poke What if someone wants decaying peaches?

Poke

That's a good point

@Geobits please ask for clarification. The question did not provide enough information to answer

flawr

And in my case I'd probably eat some of them anyway.

@Poke vote-to-close Unclear what you're asking.

Poke

haha

Nathan Merrill

oh yeah, eating some of them is clearly the solution here

Poke

well how many peaches can the average person eat

in one sitting

ETHproductions

9:12 PM

I thought we had agreed that there are multiple solutions :P

Geobits

Right. Eat two and you're left with 33, which only has one factor in the right range.

Gabriel Benamy

someone should take away my math degree because I'm awful at it

tfw (6 - i)(6 + i) = 37

Poke

@ETHproductions Yeah but that can't be right. Everyone knows there's only 1 solution to every math problem

ETHproductions

17 mins ago, by ETHproductions

Perhaps 33 might have been a better number of peaches.

Geobits

@ETHproductions Yep :)

flawr

9:13 PM

@GabrielBenamy not if you set i=1

Poke

@GabrielBenamy but i^2 = -1

oh

Geobits

No, that's a different i :P

flawr

@Poke know your binomials

Poke

-(-1)

Gabriel Benamy

lmao

Poke

9:13 PM

hhaaaa

Gabriel Benamy

exactly

Poke

i failed with you

El'endia Starman

@Geobits She could also regurgitate the one she ate already to end up with 36 peaches, which also has only one valid factorization given the constraints.

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman 9*4, 6*6 ?

ETHproductions

Would that be 3, 4 or 6?

El'endia Starman

9:14 PM

@Geobits Ah shoot, forgot about 4*9.

Geobits

Oh yeah, and 3*12 :P

flawr

@El'endiaStarman high five:)

Poke

and 2*18

Gabriel Benamy

maybe they're fractal peaches

Geobits

Yeah, 36 is terrible here lol

El'endia Starman

9:15 PM

......hmm, right, the only constraint is that the number of baskets is 1 < n < 10...

Either I also need my math degree revoked, or I really need some sleep. I'm betting on the latter. :P

Poke

there's no stipulation on the number of barrels or crates

ETHproductions

She could eat one and get 34 peaches...

Nathan Merrill

hey, at least they didn't say there were 37 peaches

Geobits

Nobody wants 17 peaches in a single basket though. That's ludicrous.

Gabriel Benamy

rip us

flawr

9:16 PM

@NathanMerrill that would be a fun task=)

ETHproductions

> Lori wants to distribute 35 peaches equally into baskets.

Gabriel Benamy

ok I have the solution

El'endia Starman

She could eat 10 peaches, sort the remaining 25 into five baskets of 5, and then lie on the floor moaning, possibly vomiting also.

Gabriel Benamy

get two baskets

put all of the peaches in one basket, and put that basket inside the other basket

therefore each basket has the same number of peaches in it

Poke

^^^^

gottem

flawr

9:17 PM

@GabrielBenamy brilliant problem-solved

Poke

But I suppose you could also do that with 3 baskets

El'endia Starman

@GabrielBenamy What if the peaches overflow the basket, though? Are they really in the basket?

Poke

matryoshka baskets, wooo

flawr

Go ask basketoverflow.SE

Gabriel Benamy

lori needs to stop being such a stickler and buy larger baskets

flawr

9:18 PM

Or buy less peaches.

Nathan Merrill

@El'endiaStarman does it matter? all the baskets would have the same number

ETHproductions

Wait, how do we know what size the baskets are?

Gabriel Benamy

well she already has the peaches, it doesn't say she already has the baskets

it's just asking how many she needs

El'endia Starman

@GabrielBenamy She spent all her money on the peaches...

Poke

So it's really a budgeting problem in the end...

flawr

9:19 PM

And we don't even know what budget she has.

Poke

Lori needs to be frugal enough to purchase peaches and baskets

trichoplax

@GabrielBenamy Get one basket. Put all of the peaches in it. It has the same number of peaches.

Geobits

If she wants to save money, she should put them in piles instead of baskets.

Gabriel Benamy

The problem states she must have more than one basket

Poke

@Geobits Piles are messy. Let's talk pyramids

Gabriel Benamy

9:20 PM

lori becomes an expert in sphere-packing

flawr

What about heaps?

trichoplax

@GabrielBenamy Oh yeah...

El'endia Starman

@Poke What's the fewest complete pyramids that you could build with the peaches?

ETHproductions

@Geobits They're far quicker to transport in buckets, though it didn't specifically mention she wanted to move them anywhere...

Nathan Merrill

oh! I know! Use some/all of the peaches to grow some trees

Poke

9:21 PM

@El'endiaStarman I guess it depends on the shape of the base

Gabriel Benamy

Lori eventually proves Kepler's Conjecture

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill And then put the trees in the baskets? Genius!

Nathan Merrill

rinse and repeat until you have a divisible number

trichoplax

Job opportunity: Fruit Accountant. Must have firm grasp of complex math

Geobits

Well... 35 is a triangular pyramidal number...

El'endia Starman

9:21 PM

@Poke I was thinking square, but triangular is also sensible.

ETHproductions

A triangular pyramid of size 5 would fit just right.

Gabriel Benamy

It's also square pyrimidal if you're not a wuss and ignore even numbers

ETHproductions

For square pyramids, you'd need a size-4 and a size-2.

Geobits

Triangle pyramids are the only real pyramids. Everyone knows this.

ETHproductions

What about the ancient Egyptians?

trichoplax

9:23 PM

Please don't tell me we need imaginary pyramids for this

El'endia Starman

@ETHproductions Those are alien pyramids.

Gabriel Benamy

well 35 = 1^2 + 3^2 + 5^2

so if you just... ignore even numbers, you can get a square pyramid

El'endia Starman

@GabrielBenamy Huh, that's actually pretty cool.

trichoplax

I see you've never tried stacking peaches

El'endia Starman

No, I prefer apples.

Gabriel Benamy

9:24 PM

I wasn't aware we couldn't mangle the peaches in any way

peaches are easy to stack like that if you flatten them

wat

can someone please rate my golflang

El'endia Starman

@wat 1/10 try harder

trichoplax

Ooh - you can get those flat peaches (donut peaches)

Poke

@wat I give it peaches/5

El'endia Starman

(I'm kidding.)

wat

9:25 PM

let me link it, just a sec

Here it is: gist.github.com/dkudriavtsev/ab660b85f08581586493e4883dfbc541

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax Say, are there any fruits or vegetables that naturally form an object with genus > 0?

Geobits

Wait... what if we're stacking Peaches?

Poke

I'd stack that

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman OK, my lack of topology forced me to look that up, but now that I have I suspect not

Nathan Merrill

@Geobits gross, her first name is Merrill

Gabriel Benamy

9:26 PM

okay I have another answer: she doesn't need any baskets if she turns one of the peaches into a basket and turns the others into black holes, then puts the black holes inside the first peach

El'endia Starman

@GabrielBenamy Now that's thinking outside the basket!

Poke

oh god these song names

ahahaahahh

TimmyD

@GabrielBenamy No, I've played RPGs, that's how you rip a hole into spacetime and break the universe.

wat

no one wants to say anything about it?

Gabriel Benamy

I know nothing about golflangs

trichoplax

9:28 PM

31 mins ago, by TimmyD

@feersum Lori has 2^74207281-1 peaches ...

Geobits

Kinda busy with peaches here

trichoplax

This made me wonder about black holes...

wat

can you stack them?

Gabriel Benamy

fun fact: black holes can't exist

Geobits

Neither can peaches, so it still works.

trichoplax

9:28 PM

@wat Oh if your esolang is stack based that's different...

TimmyD

@GabrielBenamy Well, of course not. You just shoved all of them into a peach.

wat

@trichoplax um no, it's procedural

Gabriel Benamy

the act of crossing the event horizon of a black hole takes an infinite amount of time

TimmyD

A procedural peach?

Gabriel Benamy

which means that any black holes that we see in space haven't actually formed yet

trichoplax

9:29 PM

And yet they can evaporate in finite time, resulting in them never having existed at all??

El'endia Starman

@GabrielBenamy From the perspective of the thing crossing the event horizon.

Gabriel Benamy

That's correct, black holes can never exist

trichoplax

@wat Sorry, that was a poor joke. I'll take a look now.

wat

@trichoplax ok

It's based on string substitution and loops

trichoplax

I can't believe we're pushing out esolang talk in favour of imaginary peaches...

Geobits

9:31 PM

Only some of those solutions used imaginary ones.

wat

@TimmyD lol

TimmyD

@Geobits Yeah. My hypothetical 2^74207281-1 peaches were all real.

Geobits

Not just real, but natural too.

trichoplax

@Geobits I'm seriously doubting there were any real peaches involved in the making of this question...

ETHproductions

Now we need a class of numbers called "organic", if there isn't already...

Geobits

9:34 PM

@trichoplax Are you implying that these problems are just made up arbitrarily? Perish the thought.

Gabriel Benamy

nope, the only number systems in common use are Natural, Integer, Rational, Algebraic, Transcendental, and Complex

transcendental

erm, Real

very common.

should also be on there

pi is transcendental

e is transcendental

trichoplax

9:35 PM

@Geobits It's been a bad harvest this year. We're going to have to use pebbles for the math questions instead of fruit

flawr

@GabrielBenamy You were talking about number systems

Gabriel Benamy

number spaces, sorry

Geobits

Organic Numbers are those that reflect the difference in price between regular and organic produce.

ETHproductions

i.e. all numbers divisible by 0.01?

Gabriel Benamy

well technically, every number is divisible by 0.01

Geobits

9:36 PM

The set of numbers varies from day to day and market to market.

trichoplax

@wat Does %as display the value of the variable a? I don't follow what the s does

flawr

@GabrielBenamy Always depends on the ring=)

wat

@trichoplax The s just appends the s

trichoplax

Oh right

So any letter not prefixed with % is just displayed?

wat

yes

variables are always one letter long

trichoplax

9:41 PM

Makes sense now.

Geobits

Feel free to use this as a precautionary tale about the dangers of giving a room full of coders a grade school math problem.

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TimmyD

So ... peaches are dangerous?

Martin Ender

@TimmyD I think you can save a ton of bytes by using the same splitting regex as my Retina answer: ('\ \__'*123-split"(.{70}).{0,4}"-ne'')

oh, and without the parentheses

TimmyD

Oh, durr

Geobits

@TimmyD Well, the pits are, if you eat 10+ of them. Cyanide is the main factor I think.

arda

9:50 PM

@betseg lmao I just sent the weirdest email in my life

Gabriel Benamy

you can't leave it at that

arda

@GabrielBenamy imagine a generally very political mail that ends with talking about a simple app idea.

Geobits

-1 not enough details

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arda

@Geobits "erdogan bad xd. btw, wanna work on this app? I'll send more details if you are interested"

TimmyD

9:53 PM

@MartinEnder Yeah, that just makes it even more like a dupe.

Geobits

@arda I'm interested.

BlueEyedBeast

Our lovely conversations. Includes About teddy bears, evil postmen, RSA and other nonsense, Fish Day! and You it is nailed to the Bing.

If I'm still allowed, 5 hours until post 100000

(which is 3:00 compared to 3:30)

Gabriel Benamy

24 posts away from 100k

Geobits

At this rate it'll be less than three hours then.

BlueEyedBeast

10:11 PM

yeah, I'm guessing the site-stats doesn't account for time of day

at the rate it is, it'll be done in ~2 hours

it was at 43 110 mins ago

My God.

letters-to-santa

trichoplax

The carrots are important because the deliveries are at night time

Geobits

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trichoplax

TIL World War II was won thanks to AI

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax TILTT (Today I Learned That Too).

trichoplax

10:26 PM

While we're on carrot facts, carrots used to be purple

El'endia Starman

I've personally seen orange, yellow, and purple carrots.

BlueEyedBeast

carret

arda

@trichoplax yup, see: turing

trichoplax

@arda Not that AI :P

arda

@trichoplax which ai?

trichoplax

10:29 PM

Geobits' link

Made me smile because AI sounds like Artificial Intelligence nowadays

arda

:/

@trichoplax tiltt

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman You started a trend...

ETHproductions

> Airborne Interception Radar, also known as AI

Why not AIR? :P

trichoplax

The radar bit was top secret - even the first letter could not be shared!

arda

@ETHproductions to mess with me, ofc

trichoplax

10:32 PM

AIR would be very fitting though...

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax I remember doing that with predictive carets. :P

arda

but... adobe AIR

trichoplax

I'm pretty sure that was more recent...

arda

yeah I can't pun today

El'endia Starman

I just watched the first lecture of this series, and dang, Faraday is eloquent!

> What diamond can shine like flame? It owes its luster at night-time to the very flame shining upon it. The flame shines in darkness, but the light which the diamond has is as nothing until the flame shines upon it, when it is brilliant again.

Nathan Merrill

10:52 PM

hey, I've got a bug which occurs when I run, but not when I debug. I have no threads...

what could possibly be the cause?

trichoplax

Maybe you need a non-intrusive debugger

Poke

@NathanMerrill what language

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill That's a Heisenbug.

Gabriel Benamy

I return