The Nineteenth Byte

@BlueEyedBeast Did you get an answer to this? Did you mean all answers to a given challenge or all answers on the site? There's this on meta which may help as a starting point

Nathan Merrill

@KritixiLithos lets move back into the fellowships chat :)

BlueEyedBeast

@trichoplax I wanted all the answers on the site and not I didn't

trichoplax

I think that meta post gives the only practical method at the moment - unless the answer has the language in the header we don't have a way of determining it

It ran into problems though. Some challenges require a header specifying something other than a language, so you end up with a list of languages with other random words thrown in

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cracking in progress... code-golf Remember those brute-force programs to crack password that show every combinations they are trying (more precisely, at one point, the n first characters are fixed (they have been guessed successfully), and every possible character for the remaining ones is bein...

betseg

12:10 PM

I'm boooored

trichoplax

@betseg Stewie Griffin is looking for someone to write a snippet...

Do you want to be writing a challenge or writing an answer or just to be entertained?

betseg

Anything

trichoplax

Anything in Secret Santa's Sandbox that appeals?

betseg

I don't want to secret santa

trichoplax

Or you could give feedback on the main sandbox...

I have a couple of challenges I could do with feedback on

betseg

12:16 PM

Ooh zgarb's challenge looks fun

trichoplax

Only just seen that one - simple but interesting...

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Q: Pay Best Card in Euchre

Pay Best Card in Euchre Input: Firstly An array of three cards representing the cards played by each player formatted like [JD][10H][9S] Representing Jack of Diamonds, 10 of Hearts, and Nine of Spades. As you always sit across from your team-mate in Euchre, the second element represents y...

hey

bye

;______________;

@LearnHowToBeTransparent How to be transparent?

betseg

12:27 PM

rgba(0,0,0,1)

TuxCopter

:O

trichoplax

Do many of you use languages that only have access to single precision floats, and not double precision (even as an option)?

Learn How To Be Transparent

@TuxCopter do you know what does transparent mean in my country?

you shouldn't know that

TuxCopter

why?

Learn How To Be Transparent

@TuxCopter it is [nsfw]

TuxCopter

12:34 PM

ok

trichoplax

I'm thinking of using test cases that will require at least double precision. I don't mind if a submission has to spend bytes to specify double precision, but I wondered how many languages might be excluded altogether if they don't have double precision

Learn How To Be Transparent

transparent: don't talk about [nsfw] things.
dark: opposite of transparent.
in my country

TuxCopter

@trichoplax AFAIK most production languages have double-precision support

The only problem would be with esolangs

trichoplax

I know some esolangs don't even have single precision, so I'm not looking to include everything, but what about the commonly used golfing languages?

TuxCopter

Most golfing languages are implemented in interpreted languages, which most of the time have double-precision by default (Sometimes even arbitrary precision)

Emigna

12:37 PM

most of the common golfing languages use python under the hood and python has double precision floats

Sp3000

If a golfing language doesn't have double precision, they'll see the challenge and realise they need to implement it for the future, so it's win-win IMO

trichoplax

Ah great. I'll go ahead as is then. Thanks everyone :)

Sp3000

btw trich, the search for universal maze string is still going - might stop if it doesn't turn anything up soon though

trichoplax

Are you running the python or c++ version?

Or trying new approaches?

Sp3000

I ported the Python to Nim about a month ago and have been trying that in spurts on and off

Haven't changed anything in the logic though - probably should, but haven't really thought about it much

trichoplax

12:46 PM

I hadn't heard of Nim. Sounds interesting.

Funnily enough, the challenge I'm working on also involves strings of NESW...

Sp3000

The one thing I really want to do is work out which mazes are necessary and which mazes are automatically solved in the process of solving another maze... haven't thought of a good way apart from special cases though (which I've already got)

And yeah, Nim for better-than-Python speed with closer-to-Python syntax :P

Anonymous

@trichoplax Almost every language uses double-precision (or better) for floats. Those that don't typically don't have floats at all (BF).

trichoplax

I wonder about some kind of brute force/stochastic approach to eliminating redundant mazes, but that becomes almost another challenge on top of the existing one...

@Mego Thanks. This is confirmed by the others too, so I'm going to stick with test cases that only work using double precision or above

Any last minute feedback before I post this?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

North by North by North by South East code-golf Given a string of N, S, E and W, output a bearing (angle clockwise from North in degrees), correct to 5 decimal places. In traditional compass notation, a string is made up of only 2 of these characters (like NNW or ESE). Here you must also acc...

TuxCopter

1:25 PM

I made a regex based Thue derivative and a BF interpreter in it

I/#
_(.*?)`\+/"_0\1+`
_0(.*?)`-/"_\1-`
_(\S*) (.*?)`>/" \1_\2>`
(.*?) (\S*?)_(.*?)`</"\1_\2 \3<`
%(.*?)_ (.*?)!(.*?)`\[/"0%\1_\2!\3[$
%(.*?)`\[/"0%\1[`
0%(.*?)`\]/"%\1']
\['/"`[
(.)'/"'\1
^0%(.*?)\$\]/"%\1]`
0%(.*?)\$\]/"%\1]$
%(.*?)\$\[/"0%\1[$
\$(.)/"\1$
~
%_    !`I

No support of nested loops though

Shebang

Nim looks pretty sweet!

trichoplax

It does. I might have to try it out

Sp3000

:)

Shebang

Ooh, mutable strings ;P

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Q: North by North by North by South East

Given a string of N, S, E and W, output a bearing (angle clockwise from North in degrees), correct to 5 decimal places. In traditional compass notation, a string is made up of only 2 of these characters (like NNW or ESE). Here you must also accept strings that contain all 4 (like WNNNSE). Using ...

code-golf

Fatalize

1:41 PM

@trichoplax I'm pretty sure I had a small debate with someone in this chat because they always thought that Pedantry had this extra n :p

Might be a more common mistake than I thought

trichoplax

In my case it was just a typo, but I do vaguely recall someone arguing this. At the time I couldn't tell if they were trolling...

Geobits

I might or might not have been involved in that discussion >_>

betseg

apple.com/newsroom/2016/11/…

$300 book, by Apple

COURAGE

Anonymous

Geobits being involved in an argument? Wow, no way!

Geobits

I'd argue that that's not fair, but...

@betseg They got rid of the usual 3.5mm page numbers? o_o

Fatalize

1:51 PM

I wouldn't buy a MacBook, let alone a real book by Apple

betseg

> This linen-bound, hardcover volume was developed over an eight-year period.

Geobits

Engadget's take: We're holding out for the BookBook Pro.

TimmyD

> WEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEN

Fatalize

Reports that the Apple Book can bend like the iPhone 6

tragedy ensues

Learn How To Be Transparent

2:04 PM

why is the noise room deleted? chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/46203/tnb-noise-room

Anonymous

Because it was a horrible idea

3

mınxomaτ

There's a deleted post on the Chat issue meta thread that explains why.

Shebang

Is it possible that a part in my laptop could be hitting 100 degrees C and I wouldn't be able to feel it through the metal (it's aluminum)?

TuxCopter

mınxomaτ

@Shebang Sure.

TuxCopter

2:07 PM

^^ Here is the post for mortals

Shebang

@mınxomaτ It seems my GPU is jumping from ~40 degrees idle to 100 immediately, so after 5-20 minutes the laptop shuts off presumably due to the thermals

betseg

If it jumps 60 degrees, it's possible that the sensor is broken.

Shebang

I found out the reason it was showing 511 degrees was because of it being switchable graphics, if you run something which makes it switch it gives (supposedly) accurate readouts

That's what I was thinking

mınxomaτ

@Shebang Sensor failure. Less likely is actual overheating due to lack of contact to the cooler (e.g. by tiny air pockets in the package)

Learn How To Be Transparent

Do you want to solve this math problem?
I have a number: 1342.
-> 1111+111+111+11-1-1
I have a number: 24
-> 11*(1+1)+1+1
So, the challenge: 43256432 to expression only contains +-*/^%()
Shortest answer wins.

Shebang

2:09 PM

Considering this is a mobile GPU and I am out of warranty I imagine I probably can't do much

Unless there's a way to safely disable the sensor

mınxomaτ

Not really.

betseg

@LearnHowToBeTransparent looks like a homework :p

TuxCopter

@LearnHowToBeTransparent 1+1+1+1+1+1+....+1+1+1

Learn How To Be Transparent

@betseg sorry not

hey, shortest answer win

make it as short as possible

TuxCopter

It's the shortest rn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Geobits

2:10 PM

Isn't this a challenge on main?

Learn How To Be Transparent

@Geobits sorry not

> expression only contains +-*/^%()

Geobits

I've seen it either here or Puzzling, can't remember.

Learn How To Be Transparent

where? gimme link

Geobits

Clearly I don't have a link if I can't remember where it was.

Learn How To Be Transparent

@TuxCopter your trick cannot solve this: 134.25

TuxCopter

2:13 PM

Ok then. 1/(1+1)+1/(1+1)+...+1+1+1+1+...+1+1

Learn How To Be Transparent

@Geobits saw it: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/14705/…

Geobits

Well there are a few like that there. I meant one using only ones, as yours does.

TuxCopter

I remember the challenge brb

Shebang

11111111*((11+11+11+11)/11)-1111111-111111+11111*((11+11+11)/11)+1111-111-111-1‌1-1

betseg

1111^(1+1)*11*(1+1+1) close enough

TuxCopter

2:16 PM

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Q: There can be only 1!

Your task is, given a positive integer n, to generate an expression that equals the number n. The catch is: you're only allowed the number 1 in the output. The operators at your disposal are: +, -, * and / / is floating-point division (so 5/2 = 2.5). sqrt (as s) ceil and floor (as c and f ...

math code-challenge metagolf

Last ping I swear

Geobits

Yep, that's the (only) one

Shebang

11111111*(1+1+1+1)-1111111-111111+11111*(1+1+1)+1111-111-111-1‌1-1

Conor O'Brien

any APLers in here?

TuxCopter

I used to use APL

Conor O'Brien

do you know how to get the codepoint of a character? e.g. '!' -> 33

TuxCopter

2:19 PM

IDK how to get the codepoint

Learn How To Be Transparent

11111111*((11+11+11+11)/11)-1111111-111111+11111*((11+11+11)/11)+1111-111-111-1‌1-1

VM182:1 Uncaught SyntaxError: Invalid or unexpected token

Shebang

That's because of copy+paste

You could just retype it.. :P

confusedandamused

Anyone know how to go about using Interop Word to insert text at a specific position in a word document?

TuxCopter

@Shebang You use non-ASCII in it

I see what you did there

Shebang

Well considering I typed it out on my keyboard..

Directly into chat

Sp3000

2:21 PM

Copying and pasting long strings from chat does weird things

TuxCopter

00000000: 3131 3131 3131 3131 2a28 2831 312b 3131  11111111*((11+11
00000010: 2b31 312b 3131 292f 3131 292d 3131 3131  +11+11)/11)-1111
00000020: 3131 312d 3131 3131 3131 2b31 3131 3131  111-111111+11111
00000030: 2a28 2831 312b 3131 2b31 3129 2f31 3129  *((11+11+11)/11)
00000040: 2b31 3131 312d 3131 312d 3131 312d 31e2  +1111-111-111-1.
00000050: 808c e280 8b31 2d31                      .....1-1

ಠ_ಠ

Learn How To Be Transparent

\u200b my <s>compiler</s> interpreter says that.

Shebang

I certainly didn't try to :P

Emigna

@ConorO'Brien I recently saw this post doing that, but there may be a better way.

Shebang

Learn How To Be Transparent

2:22 PM

what console? i use google chrome console

Shebang

Python REPL

Conor O'Brien

@Emigna thanks, that's perfect!

TimmyD

Apparently no one else here is a fan of Kung Pow: Enter the Fist.

Emigna

@TimmyD How did you get that (falsy) idea?

Geobits

Nobody commented on his reference some time ago

TimmyD

2:28 PM

35 mins ago, by TimmyD

> WEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEN

Geobits

I prefer kung pao

TimmyD

As an aside, is "falsy" or "falsey" the correct spelling?

Emigna

AH, I assume it was in relation to the NEWS challenge

TimmyD

Or is it like "zeros" vs. "zeroes" and its up to the individual?

Emigna

@TimmyD This seem to prefer the shorter but accept both

Geobits

2:32 PM

fals[e]y

trichoplax

@Emigna I was looking for some connection myself...

Emigna

I have always interpreted that line as OIOIOIOI... though

Lembik

hi all

Poke

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Q: Is it "falsy" or "falsey"?

I have seen both versions of the word, falsy and falsey. It can mean "something that is equivalent to false" in computer science, such as "The only two falsy values in the Ruby Language are false and nil". What is the correct usage of this word?

orthography formality suffixes computing

SE has spoken

oh

emigna posted this

fml

Shebang

@Lembik Hello :)

Lembik

2:36 PM

fml?

I am still trying to think of the next really hard programming challenge :)

Poke

@Lembik Fix my lighthouse

Lembik

sadly my lack of GPU is stopping me from posing a GPU challenge.. which is a shame

Shebang

@Lembik Maybe find an OEIS sequence we could contribute to?

Lembik

@Shebang that's a good idea.

7H3_H4CK3R

Hello PPCG! a friend and me are preparing a presentation on esolangs and codegolf, and we would be interested on any languages you can recommend for us to present. We still need a golfing lang, and we already have the most common esolangs

Lembik

2:38 PM

@Shebang actually I have an idea but I need help on it

Shebang

@7H3_H4CK3R Well GolfScript would be a good start

Lembik

@Shebang are you feeling mathematical and helpful ? :)

Poke

@7H3_H4CK3R Jelly

hehehehe

Shebang

@Lembik Well I could try to :) I have a meeting in a bit but after that I could help out here and there

7H3_H4CK3R

jelly and gs are probably good as gs is like the golfing language and jelly has a nice codepage

Lembik

2:39 PM

@Shebang ok so it's a long shot but... The question is, given an n by n matrix, what is the minimum number of arithmetic operations needed to compute its permanent

say n = 5

TuxCopter

Or you could take APL

Lembik

the idea is to try to compute this for small n exactly

TuxCopter

It also have a nice codepage and it's the first 'golfing' language

Lembik

or at least have it as an optimization problem

Conor O'Brien

no, it's not a golfing language.

7H3_H4CK3R

2:40 PM

it handles like one and doesnt do a bad job at golfing

TuxCopter

APL can easily compete with golfing languages

Conor O'Brien

but isn't one

Lembik

@Shebang is the question at least clear?

trichoplax

@Lembik The $5 Raspberry Pi Zero has a GPU...

Shebang

@Lembik It's definitely clear

TuxCopter

2:41 PM

It wasn't created as a golfing language, but in pratice it's one

Lembik

@Shebang great.. It's similar to a question people ask for matrix multiplication

but in this case it's more exciting as no one has done it before :)

Conor O'Brien

I think the intention decides the golfing language status

TuxCopter

@ConorO'Brien I disagree

Conor O'Brien

*intention and in practice

Fatalize

There are commercialy sold APL systems

Shebang

2:43 PM

@Lembik Definitely :) I wonder what method in general has less calculations. I know that the method Dennis (?) was using was certainly the fastest but does that mean there are less operations or just less expensive operations?

Fatalize

From that it's hard to say that it's a golfing lang…

7H3_H4CK3R

also does anyone have recommendations for nice golf-answers to introduce the concept of golfing. here i'm talking about the creative ones and not really 2 byte solutions due to builtins

TimmyD

@7H3_H4CK3R FizzBuzz

7H3_H4CK3R

@TimmyD youre right that has some beautiful solutions

Shebang

What about this? ;)

258

A: "Hello, World!"

Stuck, 0 bytes Well, can't get shorter than that... An empty program will output Hello, World! in Stuck.

TuxCopter

2:45 PM

lol

7H3_H4CK3R

anyone know any java golfs(i know, java) because that's the main language most of our co-students know

TuxCopter

Geobits

There are a lot of Java golf answers :D

Sp3000

@Geobits I believe your assistance is required

Shebang

@7H3_H4CK3R Look at anything Geobits does ;)

TuxCopter

2:45 PM

He's the only user crazy enough to use Java against Jelly

7H3_H4CK3R

@Shebang i've seen that but meh, its more the interpreter that does the work

Sp3000

3/3, that's pretty good :P

TimmyD

FizzBuzz is also good because it's a concept that a) is pretty familiar because it's a well-used example, and b) even if not familiar, it's pretty easy to explain

Shebang

@7H3_H4CK3R I know, it's my language :P

Fatalize

@Shebang I can never thank you enough for the amount of rep this stupid answer gave me

Sp3000

2:46 PM

HW is a bit boring as a golf introduction to be honest

Geobits

@Sp3000 lol right? 3000 Java gol answers, so I'm pretty sure it's more than just me :P

TimmyD

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A: 1, 2, Fizz, 4, Buzz

Java, 130 bytes This is for recent Java versions (7+). In older ones you can shave some more off using the enum trick, but I don't think the logic gets any shorter than this (86 inside main). class F{public static void main(String[]a){for(int i=0;i++<100;)System.out.println((i%3<1?"Fizz":"")+(i%5<

7H3_H4CK3R

yeah thats what i was thinking @Sp3000

Shebang

Although if your presentation is on golfing langs and esolangs, ArnoldC is a fun one :)

TuxCopter

> Java gol

Geobits

2:47 PM

I saw that, but didn't want to ping a third time to fix it ;)

It's also more like 2000 >_>

Sp3000

I'd recommend going with something simple like primality testing, then showing how to progressively improve answers (e.g. you for primes you can do a few basic improvements, then suddenly pull out Wilson's theorem showing that sometimes knowledge helps)

Lembik

@Shebang I think for general n there is a small theoretical improvement by Andreas Bjorklund

@Shebang but I am interested in n = 2,3,4,5,6 :)

TuxCopter

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Q: Brainfuck Interpreter written in x86 Assembly

Story time: A week ago I found a question about optimizing Assembly code, then I remembered how awesome Brainfuck was, and the match was made very quickly. I decided to write a Brainfuck Interpreter in Assembly! For this I have used the NASM assembler with x86 Assembly and is intended to run on ...

assembly interpreter brainfuck

This guy is insane

Lembik

@Shebang so..what this needs is a concrete algorithm, no matter how slow, to answer the question for small n

Shebang

@Lembik I think there are smart enough people here to do this, I am not sure if I am one of them :P It's quite easy to determine for the naive approach that it requires 3, 14, 51, 204, ... = f(n) = (n-1)*f(n-1), f(2) = 3 calculations but I would be very much interested in optimal solutions

Lembik

3:03 PM

@Shebang me too but actually even one smaller than what you get from the generic formula is great

@Shebang I don't need optimality :)

PhiNotPi

@LuisMendo I should have specified min(X/Y, 1) - epsilon.

Lembik

@Shebang maybe I should ask a question on SO first?

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Q: 5 Favorite Letters

5 Favorite Letters code-golfascii-artkolmogorov-complexity The challenge is actually extremely simple. Pick 5 distinct letters (you can just pick the 5 that allow you the shortest code if you like) and output them to the console. However, the twist is that they must be from the following list: ...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

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Japanese Mahjong Score Calculator code-golf game I'm new to Japanese Mahjong and have trouble calculating the scores. Please help me write a program to calculate it. Introduction Mahjong is a popular tile game in Asia. Different rules have evolved and systematically established in various reg...

TuxCopter

This is gold

betseg

3:18 PM

i lauf'd

Shebang

@Lembik Or maybe even Math.SE?

Lembik

@Shebang interesting..

TimmyD

@TuxCopter Really? That sort of language is pretty offensive.

7

Lembik

@Shebang it's sort of an algorithmic question. We have a formula which tells us the answer. We want to know if the same formula can be done in x operations

so really it's a formula minimization problem

@Shebang A little like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superoptimization

Wipqozn

@TuxCopter Yeah no. Bigoted language like that isn't welcome on the Stack Exchange network.

7

quartata

3:32 PM

ah I love the smell of flags in the morning

Lembik

?

Shebang

@Lembik That's quite interesting, kind of unfortunate that a bruteforce is the best way though

Geobits

Well, I certainly missed something. That's what I get for doing my Christmas shopping instead of focusing on chat.

trichoplax

You're a room owner now. Christmas is cancelled :P

Lembik

@Shebang well yes but even the bruteforce approach is non-trivial

@Shebang there are many different brute force approaches :)

Geobits

3:37 PM

@trichoplax But, but... it was stuff for Minibits

trichoplax

Oh that's different...

Geobits

I got him a mirror cube, pyraminx, and megaminx set. He's gotten to the point where the 3x3x3 and 2x2x2 don't make him think much.

mınxomaτ

megaminx are fun

Geobits

I'm shocked to hear you say that, mınxomaτ :P

mınxomaτ

Not the cheap ones, though. They tend to fall apart as soon as you breath near them.

Geobits

3:42 PM

Uh, this one's a Dreampark. Had good reviews, but still reasonably priced. Haven't tried the brand before, so we'll see.

mınxomaτ

After a few disintegrated, I got a "competitive" one about four years ago. Still as good as on the first day.

confusedandamused

Jesus lord I hate word documents

Geobits

My favorite 3x3 has been dog-chewed and it's still kicking, but I can't remember the brand for the life of me. There are no markings on it at all, just a stickerless cube.

trichoplax

Just looked up "mirror cube". Wow :)

mınxomaτ

I have a cheap 3x3 "mirror cube" for fidgeting: qph.ec.quoracdn.net/…

Wow, ninja'd. Hard.

Geobits

3:48 PM

Yeah I think he'll like that one :)

mınxomaτ

It's actually pretty nice to turn because there's always a unique block to grip onto.

Poke

@Geobits Get a floppycube

those things are dope

I want to get one of the originals but I don't think they ship to the US

i guess it's not super challenging though

once you know the 2x2x2 and 3x3x3 you can pretty much figure out higher orders

although i'd venture to say the 4x4x4 is better for the different parity issues than a 2x2x2

Geobits

I was thinking about the 4x4, but yeah, anything over that is just more time consuming than anything I think.

Poke

i'd limit myself to 5x5x5

i guess i would and i have

Luis Mendo

4:16 PM

@PhiNotPi If you are going to write a paper or document with that, I'd like to see it when you have it ready. I'm not much into that but it could be a novel result

PhiNotPi

4:35 PM

@LuisMendo also, sorry if it feels like I've been bothering you too much with this stuff. IDK how interested you are in it.

quartata

@Geobits Doesn't he have an account here? I wouldn't be giving anything away...

Geobits

Sure, but he isn't crafty enough to scroll/search back hours or days to find it (he's in school now). Yet. Next year, I probably won't ;)

trichoplax

He never casually searches for "minibits"? You might want to start introducing typos...

quartata

midibits

trichoplax

I added a section called "Pedantry" to the end of my challenge, to ward off comments pointing out known inconsistencies. Instead I got a comment accusing the pedantry section of being incorrect...

Geobits

4:43 PM

@trichoplax Not that I've ever seen, no. He usually only got on chat in the MC room anyway, and not even there in recent months.

@trichoplax You should use Southeast. South East is weird.

trichoplax

:P

Luis Mendo

@PhiNotPi I am! No bothering me at all :-) It's an interesting matter! I said "I'm not much into that" meaning I'm not aware of which results already exist and which don't. But the area is interesting for me

betseg

5:04 PM

.o/

isaacg

I want to make token-golfing actually work

PhiNotPi

Right now I'm working on a bunch of Java classes which will basically allow me to "compose" functions.

isaacg

Here's me token-golfing FizzBuzz in Python:

gist.github.com/isaacg1/3aa136756bde881b0d6430d676e2cf4c

I think it's a shame that a lack of a standardized definition is blocking these sorts of questions from being asked, since I think they'd be a lot of fun.

feersum

Shouldn't every problem be solved in 2 tokens?

PhiNotPi

If you can create an auto-scorer, it could work.

Also, you might need a rule or 2 to prevent exec("string") answers.

isaacg

5:13 PM

@feersum exec is banned

Geobits

I could see it working in a single language (or language family). I don't think there will ever be much agreement about tokens between (many) languages, though.

isaacg

Anyways, if you'd like to discuss this, please join this chat room

Token Golfing

Make coding challenges about minimizing tokens actually work

quartata

I would love to see a Python token golfing challenge. I personally don't consider limiting it to one language a big deal in a case like this

Oliver

hi guys

mınxomaτ

Angela Merkel ransomware is also a thing now: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/0ddef96bc1cd9fae381e6f228639c145341e10197cc690a70dc0c8acb46d4c2c/analysis/1479156051/ Ext: .angelamerkel Skid made one...… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/798268218364358656

Tweeted by malwrhunterteam on November 14, 2016 at 8:55 PM

Gabriel Benamy

5:18 PM

My ladder code keeps being circumvented!

Nathan Merrill

token golfing is basically the same as using a golfing language, except that its easier to read, and you aren't limited to single-byte tokens

trichoplax

Or to 256 tokens. Oh wait that's what you said. Ignore me...

Nathan Merrill

right

feersum

That's like saying "Python is like using a golfing language except longer"

trichoplax

Does your "right" show above my response? It does on my screen, for some reason

Nathan Merrill

5:26 PM

@trichoplax nope

trichoplax

Just me then.

quartata

@NathanMerrill Well it's a little more complicated than that

Nathan Merrill

@feersum but its not. in python, the different tokens have different byte values, so you have to try to find fewer ones. In token golfing, you could literally replace each token with an ascii character, and you'd have a golfing langauge

quartata

since some syntax elements take more than one token

Nathan Merrill

like what?

quartata

5:28 PM

as isaac's gist demonstrated

@NathanMerrill for in definitely springs to mind.

feersum

Function calls still take more parens and commas than they would in a golflang.

Nathan Merrill

except in isaac's example: for i in range(1, 101): # 5

you got for in, i, range, 1, 101

all of that syntax you guys are saying isn't counting according to his token scoring

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BlueEyedBeast

5:41 PM

> Tomorrow morning we will completing some essential maintenance work which will reduce the amount of data across the network and help improve performance / login speeds.

> After this work is completed, some of you may receive two “Documents” areas. You will need to delete the contents of the old documents area and paste into the new area. As a precaution, please copy all important documents / data to OneDrive or to a memory stick before tomorrow morning.

Sent from college after end of day when everyone's gone home. Cannot access any files from home. How I hate tech support

TimmyD

Why on earth would they have users copy-paste the documents

BlueEyedBeast

I don't know

They're all idiots as far as I'm concerned - at least one of them got fired in the last month for incompatency

TimmyD

If they're using Windows (likely) and the folders are on different servers (also likely), then that means the user is literally copying the file(s) down from the first share into RAM and then back up to the second share.

Wow. I am so sorry.

BlueEyedBeast

Almost anything would be better than it is already. It takes ~30 mins to log in and instead of logging off, people reboot. This causes desyncs and people go to them to get their accounts unborked.

(logging off takes ~10 mins)

lessons are 1 hour

TimmyD

That's just insane. Yes, they're incompetent.

BlueEyedBeast

5:47 PM

It was mostly fine until they updated to windows 10

mınxomaτ

Anything that contains "import to ... OneDrive" is a sign of insanity.

BlueEyedBeast

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Geobits

Sounds more like a CYA move to me. Yes, incompetent, but if anything at all were to go wrong with file migration for even a small number of users... It's easier if you have a stock "well we told you to back up your stuff" response.

Gabriel Benamy

Yikes(TM)

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