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Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:00 AM
Did something happen to the recent controversial attribution meta post? I can't seem to find it.
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@Calvin'sHobbies It's no longer featured, but it's at about -250 total score
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@AlexA. But it wasn't even on the last page of questions sorted by votes
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
-248
Q: A New Code License: The MIT, this time with Attribution Required

samthebrandUpdate: January 15, 2016 Thank you for your candidness, patience and feedback. We're going to delay the implementation for now - we'll be back soon to open some more discussions. Important context for those arriving from reddit and slashdot links: The status quo is not "public domain", att...

discussion licensing feedback creative-commons
 
Quill
Quill
lol, erry tim they do PSAs, they get flooded with DVs
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
> erry tim
@Quill Well yeah, when they propose nonsensical things like this, they're bound to get downvoted.
:P
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
3:06 AM
Why are there no robot assassins in this story? I was told there'd be robot assassins. What kind of half-rate dystopia doesn't have robot assassins? Are you gonna tell me that all the killer robot companies got sued out of existence and the future will have no roving killbots at all?! — Shog9 ♦ yesterday
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
The sidebar widening went alright
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
There's one thing SE has done right considering major changes.
 
quartata
quartata
comments section on the mit thing is cancer
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata ikr
 
quartata
quartata
> code golf is just a joke site
flamewar mode activated
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:09 AM
?
Was I not civil?
 
quartata
quartata
Did you reply to it? I did not see
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@thegrinner As for Code Golf, that's just a joke site, right? — TylerH yesterday
@TylerH As a moderator on Code Golf, I can tell you that while we like to have fun, we are most certainly not a "joke site." We have some incredible solutions to intellectually stimulating problems. I invite you to join the community and see what we're all about. — Alex A. 6 hours ago
@AlexA. I already have an account there, I just haven't seen anything other than "What's the smallest way I can write this" with 50 different languages in the answers, usually with Brainfuck winning with something like @(&*)&@#$(*&@)(@$. — TylerH 22 mins ago
@TylerH The objective of a code golf competition is to solve the given task with the shortest code possible, so what you describe is pretty typical (though that isn't valid Brainfuck code :D). But I fail to see how solving a programming challenge with the shortest possible code constitutes a joke site. — Alex A. 5 mins ago
(FWIW he actually doesn't have an account here)
 
Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ
Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ
On the SE API. Our questions per minute shows up as zero :/
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
People are just asses when it comes to talking about us ;_;
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
We're not well understood
 
quartata
quartata
3:12 AM
i wish he would actually learn what bf is instead of spouting something so inne
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Yeah I think it's really about cramming everything into an 8 bit latin/greek encoding, presumably so you can use greek letters for more crap in the maximally-terse code golf language while keeping actual 'file' length to a minimum. — pvg 2 days ago
@AlexA. You were a perfect gentlemen ^_^
 
quartata
quartata
fwiw that guy is probably not representative of what the se network thinks of us
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ well, even 10 questions per day is like 0.007 questions per minute
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh wonderful, thanks for telling me, that's good to know.
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@quartata This may be true, but it's happened before ^^^^^
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:14 AM
@quartata No, but we aren't well understood by a lot of the network. Things like Stack Egg and code trolling really hurt.
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
I guess the Area 51 goal has some James Bondy subtext
 
quartata
quartata
hm
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
uh... ok
Oh wait I get how that makes sense now
 
quartata
quartata
maybe when we get some of those community ads people will stop spouting inane bs and actually learn a bit about what we are
4
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
3:15 AM
:D
 
quartata
quartata
i dont even know an esolang with greek letters
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
JOLF
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
sorry
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata APL, despite seeming esoteric to some, isn't an esolang, though it does use some Greek letters.
 
quartata
quartata
true
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
i forgot se chat doesn't like ?1 at the end
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:18 AM
Sure it's not just lack of !?
!https://i.imgur.com/krExLOy.png?1
 
quartata
quartata
also i am still cringing at the bf comment. one look at the wikipedia article for bf would make it pretty clear it isnt a golfing lang nor does it use &
ah well dont feed the troll
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
@Calvin'sHobbies i didn't even know you could do that
i just let it auto-onebox when it sees the file extension
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
! in front of a url does magic
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@quartata None of the characters he used are used in BF.
 
quartata
quartata
@undergroundmonorail ! forces oneboxing which is necessary sometimes
 
TanMath
TanMath
3:20 AM
5
Q: Parse RNA into codons

ZgarbIntroduction RNA is the less famous cousin of DNA. Its main purpose is to control the production of proteins in cells through a process called translation. In this challenge, your task is to implement a part of this process where the RNA is split into codons. This challenge is thematically rela...

code-golf string parsing
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
!BOX
 
TanMath
TanMath
can somebody help me write regex for finding the start and stop codons?
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@quartata lies
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
@TanMath you've got a space after in that can disappear
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@TanMath What are they again?
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:21 AM
@TanMath also before zip
 
TanMath
TanMath
@El'endiaStarman AUG for start and UGA, UAA, and UAG for stop...
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
What am I reading? oh codons
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@TanMath For the former AUG is all you need and for the latter, U[GA|AA|AG], though I'm pretty sure that can be golfed.
 
TanMath
TanMath
@El'endiaStarman gracias!
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
i'm really excited about the new panic! album but i'm too lazy to actually buy it oops
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
3:24 AM
Just wait for it to be uploaded to YouTube. :P
 
TanMath
TanMath
what are you panicking about? :p
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
:P
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
Discos
5
 
TanMath
TanMath
@El'endiaStarman worshipping YouTube in my Jon Skeet shrine
Me getting the wrath of Jon Skeet now
 
RikerW
RikerW
@TanMath you can shorten ['UGA','UAA','UAG'] to ''UGAUAAUAG'
It still works the same.
 
TanMath
TanMath
3:26 AM
@RikerW no...
will it?
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
I haven't actually even read the question but
wouldn't that give a false positive for like
GAU
 
TanMath
TanMath
^
ninja'd
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
did you know: the '!' in Panic! at the Disco was originally just part of the logo. it wasn't supposed to be part of the name and, in fact, their second album doesn't have it on the cover. people just liked it enough to keep using it and now it's part of the name
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@RikerW Or UGA0UAA0UAG
 
TanMath
TanMath
@undergroundmonorail like I care
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:30 AM
:o
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@TanMath You're not the only person in this chatroom.
I, for one, appreciate the factoid.
 
quartata
quartata
@AlexA. does Julia have eval(
 
TanMath
TanMath
ok...
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata Yes, but it applies to Expr, not strings.
 
quartata
quartata
Hm.
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:32 AM
so how is eval(2+3) different from 2+3?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@Calvin'sHobbies In Julia?
 
TanMath
TanMath
^
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
if eval("2+3") is invalid
yes
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
You can do eval(:(2 + 3)), which evaluates the Expr :(2 + 3).
 
TanMath
TanMath
@Calvin'sHobbies maybe it would be better for situations like x*2+3 with x as a variable...
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:34 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies It's valid but it doesn't do what you might think; it just returns the string.
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@AlexA. How would you eval an arbitrary user input (i.e. string) expression?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
You can, however, parse an Expr out of a string using parse. So eval(parse("2+3")) would work.
@Calvin'sHobbies ^
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
oh
 
TanMath
TanMath
is julia on ideone?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
No
R is though
 
TanMath
TanMath
3:35 AM
is there a way for me to run julia code online?
@AlexA. so???
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@AlexA. Stop cheating on Julia
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@TanMath I'm just saying it's there.
@Calvin'sHobbies I've been so unfaithful.
 
TanMath
TanMath
@AlexA. ok...
maybe i should learn mathematica and julia...
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
What for?
 
TanMath
TanMath
golfing! and just because...
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:37 AM
Julia's not particularly competitive for golfing, nor does it tend to get that many upvotes.
 
quartata
quartata
I would not recommend buying Mathematica just for code golf
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
^
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
a pi is worth it
 
TanMath
TanMath
mathematica is free anyway...
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
uh
i disagree
 
quartata
quartata
3:38 AM
No it is not
 
TanMath
TanMath
mathematica=wolfram language and wolfram language is free...
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
Where?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
Isn't Mathematica the only interpreter for the Wolfram language?
 
TanMath
TanMath
@Calvin'sHobbies ^ here
@AlexA. yeah, something like that...
 
quartata
quartata
very limited though
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:40 AM
@AlexA. They have a console version on the rasberry pi. Pretty much the same, just no fancy image support and stuff. (Though don't quote me on this, I don't know much about mathematica in general)
 
TanMath
TanMath
^
just 5 dollars... on raspberry pi zero...
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
Dyalog APL is also free on Raspberry Pi.
 
TanMath
TanMath
@quartata really?
 
quartata
quartata
Oh yeah I forgot they have a free RPi version
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
(Though a student version is free anyway)
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:41 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh, yeah. Thanks.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Which, honestly, kinda confuses me. Mathematica seems like quite a large program to have on a tiny computer.
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@RikerW My pleasure!
 
RikerW
RikerW
^^
 
quartata
quartata
Wait Dyalog APL is on the RPi?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@El'endiaStarman My girlfriend's mom has one of the first versions of Mathematica on a floppy disk. XD
@quartata Yeah
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:41 AM
rofl
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@AlexA. haha, nice
 
quartata
quartata
whoa that means I dont have to use ngn like a filthy pleb anymore
 
TanMath
TanMath
@El'endiaStarman don't underestimate the power of Raspi
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
@El'endiaStarman Now that you mention it.. "Disk Space: 8.8 GB"
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata I just got a student version of Dyalog. If you fill out an application for a student license, they don't actually check whether you're a student.
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:42 AM
Pretty sure my micro sd is not filled with all that
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
> Mathematica is optimized for the latest operating systems and hardware, so you can use any system you want.
...isn't that a bit of contradiction in terms?
 
RikerW
RikerW
@AlexA. rofl
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata Also ain't nothin' wrong with ngn/apl
 
quartata
quartata
@AlexA. lol wat
 
RikerW
RikerW
Barely know what APL is...
 
TanMath
TanMath
3:43 AM
^
 
RikerW
RikerW
lol
I know it is like uber-golfy, but nothing else/
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@RikerW It's true, though I am technically a student.
 
TanMath
TanMath
v
 
RikerW
RikerW
Of what?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
"Mathematica works great on new stuff, so you can use old ones too!"
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:43 AM
@RikerW it's a programming language
 
RikerW
RikerW
Wrongness?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
APL (programming language)
APL (named after the book A Programming Language) is a programming language developed in the 1960s by Kenneth E. Iverson. Its central datatype is the multidimensional array. It uses a large range of special graphic symbols to represent most operators, leading to very concise code. It has been an important influence on the development of concept modeling, spreadsheets, functional programming, and computer math packages. It has also inspired several other programming languages. It is still used today for certain applications. == History == The mathematical notation for manipulating arrays w...
 
RikerW
RikerW
@Calvin'sHobbies Thank you, Captain Obvious.
@AlexA. I know that much...
 
quartata
quartata
they dont check at all? that seems problematic
 
TanMath
TanMath
rofl
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:44 AM
@RikerW I'm in an online master's program.
Applied statistics
 
RikerW
RikerW
Okay.
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata Whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It means folks get Dyalog for free.
 
RikerW
RikerW
BTW, i head something about a stack egg here earlier?
Elaborate?
 
TanMath
TanMath
my predictive carrots are bad...
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Yeah, it was an April Fool's joke.
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:45 AM
It sounds like an easter egg or something.
Oh, okay.
 
TanMath
TanMath
@El'endiaStarman what is it?
 
RikerW
RikerW
What was it though?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
A playable mini-game in the browser.
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
april fools on stack exchange, every site got a tamagotchi thing that represented an SE site
 
TanMath
TanMath
TanMath'd
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:46 AM
Aww..
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
you voted on what you wanted to do
some regulars here misunderstood the point of the game
 
TanMath
TanMath
when was this again?
 
RikerW
RikerW
So I missed it?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Turns out, it was possible to force other sites' StackEggs to reset...
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
and tried to "win" by screwing up other sites'
@TanMath april 1-n
@RikerW yeah
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:46 AM
Aww.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
It was last year.
 
RikerW
RikerW
That sounds fun...
So it was basicaly intersite code trolling?
 
quartata
quartata
no it wasnt
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
@undergroundmonorail where did that -n come from
 
TanMath
TanMath
@undergroundmonorail which year, 2015?
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:47 AM
yeah
 
RikerW
RikerW
v
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@RikerW Mostly Code Golf vs Code Review.
 
quartata
quartata
not fun
 
RikerW
RikerW
lol prediction worked.
@quartata Are you sure?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Most sites kept to themselves.
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:47 AM
Sounds like fun.
So what was the intended easter egg?
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
It was, a bit.
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
just to play on your own site's stackegg
 
RikerW
RikerW
What was the stackegg?
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
the tamagatchi
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@RikerW Code Golf made it not fun by "raiding" the other sites, i.e. going onto the other sites and voting to "restart" the site.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
3:48 AM
A playable mini-game that was like a mini version of the SE sites.
 
RikerW
RikerW
@AlexA. Oh.
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
It was a network wide competition and we won by cheating.
 
RikerW
RikerW
WTF?
 
TanMath
TanMath
^
 
RikerW
RikerW
Why did we do that?
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
3:49 AM
the code is out on github somewhere
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
my understanding is that people here legitimately misunderstood the point, they weren't just trying to be jerks
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
^
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
at the very least, that's what they said
 
RikerW
RikerW
Okay.
v
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You can give it a shorter name if you like;)
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:49 AM
<
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@undergroundmonorail Yeah. We're very nice people!
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
Yeah, that ^^^^^
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
Yep, some CG people thought the point of the game was direct competition, including raids.
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
@ETHproductions Oh, I just forget the encoding ^_^
 
quartata
quartata
i wasnt around at ppcg then but i was a stalker at so/meta se and there was a big stink about it iirc
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
3:50 AM
WTF IS WITH THE CARROTS IN HERE PEOPLE
(」゜ロ゜)」
 
RikerW
RikerW
IDK.
 
quartata
quartata
hue hue
 
TanMath
TanMath
what??
 
RikerW
RikerW
Hey @AlexA.!
Why? :P
 
TanMath
TanMath
why?
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:51 AM
Because you're spamming carets.
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@quartata Yep, I remember that.
 
TanMath
TanMath
But the last one was funny!
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
None of them are funny.
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
 
RikerW
RikerW
v
^
 
TanMath
TanMath
3:51 AM
just delete the rubbish ones that didn't predict...
 
RikerW
RikerW
^ agreed.
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
can we get some celeries?
 
TanMath
TanMath
no!
just carrots!
 
RikerW
RikerW
@AlexA. permission for exponential caret growth?
 
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
 
RikerW
RikerW
3:52 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies Yes.
 
TanMath
TanMath
(and maybe some broccoli!)
 
quartata
quartata
or apples
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
apparently peanut butter on celery is good but i'd rather have peanut butter on a spoon
 
RikerW
RikerW
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was expecting a rickroll...
 
quartata
quartata
fruit represnt
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
3:52 AM
<- peanut butter cracker sandwiches! MMMMmmmm... ^_^
 
RikerW
RikerW
(celeryman)
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@El'endiaStarman Oh man, I haven't had those in ages.
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
i love peanut butter
 
phase
phase
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
i called my language pb but that's actually just a coincidence haha
 
quartata
quartata
3:53 AM
peanut butter brush?
:p
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
;p
 
Quill
Quill
holy shit I go for lunch, 277 new messages wtf
 
phase
phase
@Quill this chat has a lot of those
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@Quill This is one of the more active times...
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Wow, a computer keyboard is so much easier to use than the tablet one EDIT: fixed 156 typos (give or take 149)
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:54 AM
> lunch at 11 pm
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
> Wow, a compter keyborad is so muhc easeir to use than the tablte one
 
quartata
quartata
more importantly what did you have for lunch
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
@ETHproductions and yet
 
Quill
Quill
> australia
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
I quoted the whole sentence because it was easier than quoting each individual misspelled word. :P
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
3:55 AM
> not a real place
 
quartata
quartata
@undergroundmonorail he is aussie
 
undergroundmonorail
undergroundmonorail
@quartata common misconception there's actually no such thing
 
quartata
quartata
ninjad thanks shitty internet
 
Quill
Quill
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata changes username to "shitty internet" for the purposes of capitalizing on this joke opportunity
2
 
quartata
quartata
3:56 AM
anyways seriously what did you have for lunch
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
@quartata Asking the important questions.
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
Oooh, hello spidey runs away in terror
 
Calvin's Hobbies
Calvin's Hobbies
 
quartata
quartata
truly the most important question
lunch
 
El'endia Starman
El'endia Starman
@Calvin'sHobbies 0, for I do not eat toast.
 
Alex A.
Alex A.
3:58 AM
@Calvin'sHobbies Is this in one sitting or at once as in stacked on top of one another?
@El'endiaStarman Blasphemer
 
ETHproductions
ETHproductions
I like my toast burnt to an imagination, thanks for asking
 
Quill
Quill
// map for multi-dimensional arrays
Array.prototype.mapMulti = function(fn) {
    var mainArray = [];
    for (var i = 0; i < this.length; i ++) {
        var result = this[i].newMap(fn);
        mainArray.push(result);
    }
    return mainArray;
};
 
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