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7:07 PM
@orlp I may be missing something, but I can't figure out how to apply this to axabababa abababaxa. All b's except one shouldn't move neither left nor right.
 
Alibaba Bananarama
That's what you said, right?
Speaking of bananas, there are these really questionable looking things that I guess are banana holders to keep them from getting smashed in a lunchbox.
What better way to spend a Saturday than Googling "banana"?
 
7:22 PM
forgot I could upload^
 
Hello, World! has just surpassed Unscramble the Source Code in number of (undeleted) answers.
Sorry, @PhiNotPi.
 
@ZachGates These bananas are beginning to make me feel uncomfortable. >.>
 
Ditto. It seems like Groupon really just set themselves up for some good trolls. @AlexA.
 
Haha and they seem to be taking them in stride with surprisingly relevant answers.
 
They were expecting it from the beginning and they wanted it, I think
publicity
 
7:25 PM
Yeah. @Optimizer It was most likely a publicity stunt. They probably even planned their responses beforehand.
 
Yeah, I was just about to say that I bet the marketing team went through a lot of effort to plan against things like this.
 
7:53 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

EllDependency Graph Visualization code-golf graph ascii-art The goal of this challenge is to write a program that visualizes a dependency graph in the form of a tree. While "dependency graph" in this context means nothing more than a directed graph, the visualization method described here works be...

 
8:19 PM
Place your bets: Who will be the next user to cross a rep value divisible by 10000?
 
I'm closing in on 10k, hopefully it'll be me!
 
@Calvin'sHobbies You! You're closer to 20k than 30k, though, so... serially downvotes :P
 
haha
 
@AlexA. Dennis might get to 40k first at his rate
 
Or delete his most popular question.
 
8:21 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah that's more likely
 
@feersum Them mods wouldn't after I honored them with pizza (Well, I forgot alex..)
 
cries
 
@feersum also rep is locked after X days
(at least for answers. I don't actually know about the questions...)
 
@MartinBüttner That would be more useful information if X was provided. :P
 
It's either 2 or 3 months IIRC.
 
8:25 PM
yeah that's what I thought, but I didn't know which one...
 
Can you change your vote after those months?
 
No
Unless an edit is made to the post
 
Assuming an edit.
 
Then yes.
 
caret
 
8:27 PM
@feersum I just meant that rep isn't lost when the question is deleted
 
@orlp Something like q1l{J or !tS{J works, if the items in J are hashable.
 
The Hash-Slinging Slasher
Is anyone else annoyed by file extensions greater than 3 characters in length?
 
@AlexA. I might write you a challenge someday.
 
:D
 
Maybe when you turn 10000
 
8:30 PM
I just need 564 more rep...
I just got a +1 rep but does not know where come
 
Is does come of from the answer deletion that previous of you downvote
 
Someone deleted something you downvoted?
 
@Doorknob Congratulations, I had to read that 3 times to understand it.
 
@AlexA. 20469 is so plain though
 
What?
 
8:40 PM
http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/20469/alex-a
 
Oh
@Calvin'sHobbies Then don't use my user ID. :P
 
I start with a pi!
 
I start with a pie.
 
no you don't
 
How could you say something so cruel?
 
8:46 PM
[3.14]14
 
@Calvin'sHobbies It has a bunch of 1s in a row in its binary representation, so there's something :P
 
@Optimizer 3.1415 - pretty close
 
yeah :( thus, only "start" with pi
 
@Optimizer If only you waited a few more seconds to create your account...
 
damn, my fast internet!
 
8:48 PM
David is pi. (What does unregistered mean?)
 
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A: What does it mean when someone's an Unregistered User?

BalusCThey haven't registered themselves on the site by OpenID. They are logged in with a long living cookie tied to a specific PC/webbrowser. They won't be able to login using the same account on other PCs/webbrowsers.

 
@Doorknob it's 1123 in base 28
 
In binary the first 4 and last 4 digits are permutations of each other, each with 2 ones and 2 zeros, and the remaining digits are all ones.
 
The only interesting thing I can see about mine is that it's 111 0 111 0 000 0 in binary
Also, it's 11dd in base 15
 
@AlexA. I'm annoyed by some abbreviations to get file extensions down to 3 chars.
 
8:51 PM
@Doorknob obsessed
 
@Optimizer it's not hard, [*2..36].each do |n| puts 3808.to_s n; end :P
 
@PeterTaylor What are some examples? I find I'm generally fine with the abbreviations if it means a 3-character extension.
 
@AlexA. html
 
Oh
Yeah
 
java
class
 
8:53 PM
.jav is good enough :P
 
xlsx
 
@AlexA. Not me. I write cjam files every day.
 
Is the extension .cjam?
 
snowman :P
 
.properties
.config
 
8:53 PM
@Doorknob What's the appropriate file extension for Snowman programs?
 
.snowman
 
Gross
Why not just .sno?
 
@Doorknob that's just lazy
 
Seriously
 
>_<
 
8:54 PM
.xhtml
 
Oh, .tiff is another one.
also .webm
 
s.tiff
.webp
 
@Optimizer ಠ_ಠ
 
what? its code-golf!
 
ಠ____ಠ
 
8:56 PM
@AlexA. The extension is whatever you want it to be. The interpreter doesn't care. I either name the file t or something-meaningful.cjam.
 
ಠ____ಠ.properties
 
@Dennis (this also applies to Snowman of course)
 
and almost every language
 
My friend has a file called ~/ಠ_ಠ and it confuses me every time I ls
 
@Dennis What really bugs me is when interpreters care what the extension is. The Mouse-83 interpreter gets pissed if the extension isn't .mou.
 
8:57 PM
.moe
 
@Doorknob I have a feeling your friend did that partially for the ls lolz.
 
yeah it's empty :P
 
@AlexA. Java trumps this.
 
Oh, Java cares?
 
Java requires exact names and extensions and directory structure.
 
8:58 PM
He created a file with a name of this thing once but it got too confusing so he removed it
 
Java cares for everyone
 
@Doorknob I don't understand. So the file was called U+202e?
 
No, it was called
well... okay I should have known that wouldn't work
 
‮ <-- this was the name of the file
 
9:01 PM
?_?
still how is the that xkcd related to file names and extensions?
 
it's not
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
I still don't get it
 
He named the file <202e> (the literal right-to-left override character)
 
9:03 PM
@Optimizer How many times have you posted this in chat? Is this the 4th time?
@Doorknob So everything listed to the right or below it was backwards?
 
@AlexA. 3rd, but I thought this is the "post unrelated link in chat" day
 
:P
 
I really like the video though. specially how they blend the starting tune to be the batman theme song :D
 
What day isn't "post unrelated link in chat" day in The Nineteenth Byte?
 
@AlexA. No, it turned out ls has some kind of protection against that or something. It did mess up quite a few other things though.
 
9:05 PM
@AlexA. exactly, why else would I post it the third time?
 
@Doorknob What else did it mess up? I'm having a very difficult time imagining this scenario.
 
"If you lead like that... JUSTICE LEAGUE is TOAST"
 
@AlexA. Most shell utilities, for one
I mean, they technically work correctly... but everything comes out backwards
 
what is the longest nail you have ever grown?
 
@Optimizer I tend to buy them from the hardware store fully grown... I just don't have the patience to grow them myself.
 
9:12 PM
why do you tend to buy them? would you need to buy more than once?
 
If you want to hang multiple things up on your walls, then yes
 
it only means that you are not skilled enough
 
@feersum Technically that's not true. It's not the Java spec: it's just the default implementation.
Another bad 3-letter abbreviation is .dmg. That obviously stands for "damage", not "disk image".
 
.dim would be better
 
9:17 PM
They're all better than something like .diskimage. glares at @Doorknob
 
Hey, .sno could mean "snoopy!" :P
 
or "snowy"
 
or snoring
 
or "snort"
 
9:18 PM
.snwmn
 
king.sman
 
optimi.zer
 
@AlexA. That's even worse >_>
 
Yes, I agree
 
9:18 PM
ItMore.zip
 
haha
That's my favorite anagram username.
 
rimote.zip
aa.lex
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Works ^
@Doorknob Here's your new required file extension for Snowman ^
 
Until you try to scp it to a computer with a different filesystem.
 
scp is just a myth.
 
9:24 PM
llama@llama:~$ cat > thing.☃
)"yay the thing worked
"sP
llama@llama:~$ snowman thing.☃
yay the thing worked
 
filesystem is a myth
@Doorknob stop harassing llama!
 
@Doorknob Perfect.
 
@Optimizer My hostname and username have always been llama. :P
 
its like saying " I have always been harassing them, so doesn't matter"
 
I set my computer's name as pavlov a long time ago and I don't know why or how I did it.
 
9:27 PM
I think that is how you become a serial killer :P
 
So that people would give you funny looks when you post screenshots with lots of touching in?
 
Who said anything about touching?
I do like calling throwaway files "lady" so that I can do cat lady
 
just like you touched a snowman?
 
I'm really bad at naming things:
llama@llama:~$ ls Code/misc | grep -P 'asdf|foo|test'
asdf
asdfasdf
asdfasdf.rs
asdf.cpp
asdf.foo
asdf.metadata.o
asdf.o
asdf.py
asdf.rs
asdftest
foo
foobar.cpp
foo.cpp
foolang
powtest
powtest.rs
skypetest.py
test
test2.c
testblah.cpp
test.c
testcpp
test.cpp
test.cs
test.exe
test.js
test.py
test.rb
test.rs
testvec
testvec.rs
test.vim
testy
testyblah
testyblah.cpp
testy.cpp
testy.metadata.o
testy.o
testy.py
webtest
 
asdf.metadata.o
 
9:31 PM
@Optimizer ... wait, what is that? O_o
 
@Doorknob i dunno, metadata.o is there in ur disk a lot of times'
 
llama@llama:~$ file Code/misc/asdf.metadata.o
Code/misc/asdf.metadata.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), not stripped
wut
 
@Doorknob Man, you should see my list of Python files on my phone
 
@Doorknob The elf may not be stripped, but at least he can relocate if needed.
 
The worst thing is that these programs are golfed, so I have no idea what the hell they're supposed to do
 
9:35 PM
:D
 
You program on your phone? Next it will be smartwatch...
 
I have folder names that go upto 11 words
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I've been pondering about making a Brainfuck app for the Pebble ;)
 
@Calvin'sHobbies as far as I can tell, he never uses anything other than his smartphone
 
Yeah that's pretty much true
 
9:36 PM
is it slow?
like every single thing.
tab switch, typing, selecting, blah, blah
 
Looking for really long file names on my system, it turns out I have a file called ~/.gradle/wrapper/dists/gradle-1.11-all/7qd8qq8te5j4f5q9aaei3gh3lj/gradle-1.11/‌​docs/dsl/org.gradle.nativebinaries.language.c.tasks.AbstractNativeCompileTask.htm‌​l.
 
@Optimizer Yeah, that's kind of painful but I've become used to it by now
And also there's no way to tab
 
@BetaDecay Go all out and write a raytracer for a binary clock.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Ooooh pwetty
 
@Doorknob I have longer folder name
 
9:41 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies You know the image is going to be good when the URL contains "ObscureTech."
 
2015 september outside of my house with my family and moms relatives
is a gist of it..
 
Better make it 2soomhwmfamr
For clarity
 
You put spaces in your filenames?! Sacrilege
 
@BetaDecay folders
this is how I sort all the pics
 
Even worse D:
 
9:42 PM
@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ
 
9:54 PM
I just finished writing a question, but after reading back over it I'm not sure how clear it may seem to another person, although its perfectly clear to myself. Should I push it through the Sandbox first?
 
Yes
 
Ok, thanks.
 
Ideally, you should always go to the sandbox
Even if you have no doubts about your draft
 
well you don't have to, but I think it's a good habit to do so
 
^
 
9:56 PM
It can't hurt to sandbox it. (I typically don't use it, but there's still nothing bad that can happen if you do.)
 
My first 5 or so questions weren't pushed through the Sandbox (I wasn't aware it existed at the time), and I ended up sheepishly answering questions in the comments.
 
^ sheep
 
@BetaDecay I disagree. The sandbox shouldn't be seen as a requirement.
 
It's a useful tool
But it's not strictly necessary
 
^ sheep @AlexA.
 
9:59 PM
That was an excellent movie
 
Shaun the Sheep made it to America? :D
 
Yes it did
 
I believe its on Netflix now
 
Already?
 
The TV show, not the movie
 
10:01 PM
That makes sense
 
Oh, I didn't know there was a TV show.
 
The series is brilliant
 
Agreed. I haven't seen the movie yet though, so no spoilers!
 
@ZachGates feedback: 1. a lot of the specification is mentioned for the first time in the example at the end. I'd probably try starting with that. 2. what sort of precision is required for the intermediate results of the heights/times?
 
@ZachGates Me neither :)
 
10:05 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Zach GatesThe Challenge Write a program that can calculate how many times and how long a ball will bounce based on a few input variables. Input There are three variables that will be passed. You can accept these however you like (user input, function call, etc). The variables are as follows: height ...

 
@MartinBüttner I addressed your first point with an edit to my post; let me know what you think. As for your second point, could you clarify what you mean by "intermediate results of the heights/times"?
 
"Both of these will be rounded up to the nearest whole number." doesn't really make sense because the number of bounces is an integer to begin with
@ZachGates well in your calculations you are using heights and times like 0.625. how accurate do you want these intermediate calculations to be? (because rounding errors will propagate and might affect the final results)
 
@orlp q1l{Y
 
Alright, now I understand. I've made a second edit. Thanks for the grammar corrections, BTW. @MartinBüttner
And a third edit.
 
10:20 PM
@BetaDecay nice avatar. Looking beta than ever.
 
Google maps is getting sassy. http://t.co/I4zwXfvIrr
 
@ZachGates that's better
what output do you want for B == 1.00?
 
∞ (infinity) would be the correct answer, but I suppose that might be harder to convey in some languages. I think I might just change it where 0.00 ≤ B < 1.00. @MartinBüttner
 
sounds good to me
 
Ready for the main page? (Anyone else have any issues with it?)
 
10:25 PM
@trichoplax Thank you :)
I wanted something to match up with @AlphaDecay's
 
@ZachGates let me try tidying up the example a bit
 
Alright, thanks.
 
@ZachGates have a look and feel free to change it if you don't like it
one more thing: if the height hits exactly 1, should we compute one more bounce or leave it there?
 
One more bounce @MartinBüttner
 
might be worth adding another example for that
oh and if you made B a percentage (i.e. an integer instead of a float), that would probably me more inclusive for many languages, because then both input and output would be integers, and calculations can be done with integers by multiplying by 10k and dividing at the end.
(of course that's still possible in the current form, but it adds the probably non-negligible overhead of ignoring the . in the input)
 
10:45 PM
Quick PPCG obsession test: How many of the links in your bookmarks bar are related to PPCG? (3 here)
 
What's a bookmarks bar? :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies 0
 
Use normal bookmarks if you don't use the bar
 
I just don't use bookmarks at all
 
10:46 PM
 
@MartinBüttner heh, this is what is for
 
this is much quicker
 
@MartinBüttner Probable winner (no surprises >.>)
 
and I don't have to rely on what the community considers FAQ
 
@Doorknob Do you type "code golf" into google every time you visit
 
10:48 PM
he just never closes the tab :P
 
I put lists of URLs in a text file...much more portable and easier to deal with :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies no, I type tcode<tab><enter>
 
@Calvin'sHobbies dude browser address bar suggests links
]maybe chrome's does not though ..
 
I've figured out that just p is enough to get http://codegolf.stackexchange.com to come up first in the autocomplete list, but it's too hard to remember :P
 
I type co<Enter>
 
10:49 PM
wat
 
One click is faster than typing almost anything for most people
 
there's not even a p in code golf...
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Apparently I'm not most people
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Not for me...
 
@Optimizer same here
 
10:50 PM
 
@Calvin'sHobbies nah, mouse is too far away
 
I used to be able to type code but now codereview took over.....
 
traitor!
3
 
I've been viewing too many codereview HNQ.
 
10:51 PM
I think it's because of the <title>
and it's funny how p pulls up basically a list of my top visited sites (with a slight bias towards sites with ps in them) because http
 
More like stupid completion...
 
That's a vim-style browser?
 
So you're pretty into sucrose?
2
 
Haha, I have no idea why that's there
 
@AlexA. There are also these. One of my favorite amazon products. The Q&A and reviews are wonderful. amazon.com/forum/-/TxRTZA8844CIFV/…
People have really comical reviews for this product. amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R6YDI2512EBLO/…
 
user image
2
@Doorknob ;)
 
New question: What's the most overused XKCD out there?
 
11:01 PM
That random one
 
4
 
Ninja'd
 
definitely
it's so overused, it's the only xkcd whose ID I know
 
For those who don't know:
 
Stop! You're making it worse!
 
11:05 PM
Say what?
 
Didn't Dilbert do it first?
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I think the joke is a bit different though
 
Better comic, IMO
 
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Q: The Fire Truck Problem

tawilsonI am a teacher who was given a problem a few years ago. Every year since I have given it to my advanced students as a bonus assignment, but in ~10 years only 8 solved it, each with a slightly different approach. The problem is as follows: You have some input, in the following format (minus //com...

 
11:07 PM
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@BetaDecay I tried
 
@Doorknob I hope that's not your normal handwriting :D
 
Difference seems appreciable
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I think the point they're trying to make is quite different.
 
@BetaDecay that is my normal drawing-with-the-mouse-on-a-computer-screen handwriting :P
 
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