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6:00 PM
whereas we Canadians say "colourize" :P
 
Well at least they're not consistent. I'd hate for English to be more consistent.
 
actually, no, I was thinking of "vaporise"
apparently nobody uses "colorise"
except the French, but meh
the French
 
You sound like a true Canadian :P
 
even though I'm currently in the US
you remember Molson Joe?
 
I refuse to believe that the stereotypes aren't all 100% true. 100%.
I've been to Canada a few times for work, but never more than about two weeks at a time. The biggest difference I saw was loonies and toonies.
 
6:05 PM
"My name is Joe, and I! AM! CANADIAN!"
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also, lol
 
Wait, are you saying that's you?
 
no
it's not
 
:P
 
I'm just saying we have the same first name
and the same sentiments towards Canada :P
except I don't usually drink beer
 
Especially Molson...
 
6:06 PM
yeah, although TBH I don't know what people have against Molson
it's not any worse than Coors Light :P
 
Agreed. I don't like most light beers, though. Molson's not especially bad, it's just fun to pick on. Kinda like Coors.
 
How does CJam get the best code-golf score 90% of the time?
 
because it was a language designed specifically for code-golf...?
kinda like how GolfScript took most of the records back a few years ago
 
The language was designed specifically to be good at golfing. If it didn't win so often, not as many people would use it, so it wouldn't win as often.
 
hell, it even technically has first place in my 2014 question
if we count languages that were made after that challenge started
KE, 2 bytes
 
6:12 PM
Looks like I'm gonna have to learn how to use it...
(maybe)
 
and it wins both ASCII-only and no-limits
 
You can golf without learning CJam for sure. If your goal is to a) learn an interesting language or b) win the checkmark, it wouldn't hurt to learn it.
 
beer in general kinda sucks
I'm not big on alcohol
 
I like darker ones.
 
@Geobits OK. I'll just stick to Perl. About half the time, my Perl answers win best non-esoteric submission.
 
6:15 PM
> A million monkeys sat at a million typewriters for a million years. One of them eventually wrote a Java program. The rest wrote Perl.
6
 
lol
in other news, my minimal-clue sudoku challenge isn't getting any love :(
 
hooray for solving what should be a tricky math problem with bit manipulation
suck it, math. computer science wins
 
6:34 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

BrainSteelHelp My Brother with his Geometry! Every part of this challenge is fictional and should not be taken seriously. There is no time limit for this challenge. My little brother is terrible with computers! He saved up all of his money to buy a new one, and within half an hour the hard drive was wipe...

 
why do you ask me that and not Optimizer? :D
 
@Optimizer What does "exception-ally" mean?
Clicked the wrong respond button
 
@JoeZ. Blasphemy.
@Calvin'sHobbies: It looks like my LOLCODE answer to your history challenge will soon overtake my Julia answer in number of votes. :/
 
LOLCODE is more ... unique
 
@Calvin'sHobbies 2 in 1 sentence
 
6:44 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies: Julia is more usable. The ASCII N took me so long in LOLCODE.
 
@Optimizer Oh I see. I'm an exception, and a good asker
 
Development of LOLCODE has pretty much halted, which isn't surprising given that the lolcats memes have declined in popularity, giving way to doge and the like.
I think Adam Lindsay, creator of LOLCODE, was also the creator of Dogescript.
He has way too much time on his hands.
 
And way too many memes bookmarked
 
@Calvin'sHobbies yes, exception to the rule that martin owns it all and a good asker
 
Or a member of the Allied Forces rather than the Axis.
 
6:54 PM
Especially if he lived in an Axis-aligned country. Then belonging to the Allied forces would definitely make him an exception.
 
looks like the next well-received answer to the bijection question needs to be 12 bytes
 
Ah, the brute force method.
 
since the first three were 99, 49, and 24 bytes
 
The Dublin team say it took 7.1 million core-hours of processing time on a machine with 640 Intel Xeon hex-core processors. They started in January 2011 and finished in December. Hooray for processing time.
 
7:00 PM
hi all
 
Hello
 
Yo
 
7:18 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies It's amazing how many upvotes you got for Interpreting Fish, and yet the answers barely have any upvotes. o.O
 
@Compass Maybe next time they could do what Folding@Home does and compute it that way. Might work, if enough people would sign up for it.
 
Am I the first one to come up with functionally reactive data objects? Something like this i.imgur.com/B5FKzwI.png
 
neat :)
 
still playing with the Pencode idea :)
 
7:32 PM
@Sieg I'm not exactly sure how that's doing what it's doing (or what it's doing)
 
Are you familiat with FRP?
 
Do you guys think restarting this or something like this would be cool?
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Q: Coding in song - Representing music lyrics in a programming language of your choosing

NeilWrite a program in the language of your choosing which when read are the lyrics to a song. It must be a valid program which can be compiled and run without errors. While you could technically print to the screen all the lyrics, you're encouraged to do it with style and avoiding string literals ...

 
(it's displaying their statuses)
 
@Sieg nope
 
Wasn't there one for happy birthday?
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A: Sing Happy Birthday to your favourite programming language

WasiArnoldC, 228 Lets make Arnold Schwarzenegger singing... IT'S SHOWTIME TALK TO THE HAND "Happy Birthday to You" TALK TO THE HAND "Happy Birthday to You" TALK TO THE HAND "Happy Birthday Dear ArnoldC" TALK TO THE HAND "Happy Birthday to You" YOU HAVE BEEN TERMINATED output: Happy Birthday t...

 
7:34 PM
The idea is that timer 1 pulses once a second. The values of the two objects then update according to those pulses.
Everything using those values also updates.
 
@Compass I thought maybe we could try rewriting it with better rules. The only problem is it may be marked as duplicate.
 
While being completely declarative.
 
Well it'd have to be a relatively complex "popular" song.
because happy birthday repeats most of its content
but a needlessly complex song is also worthless since then it's just system.out.song
 
@MartinBüttner Here's a very simple example. i.imgur.com/Q14Jv6Z.png -> janijohannes.kapsi.fi/frp/test.html
 
An alternative would be to output musical notes.
Never mind that sounds horrible.
 
7:36 PM
@Sieg what's that language?
 
No pun intended
 
@MartinBüttner It's my WIP language
 
and it compiles to JS?
 
You can play with similar ideas with Elm
Yes.
 
7:38 PM
Here's a more complex piece of code. i.imgur.com/0b4ZMyN.png
That's a game where you can click circles, get points from them. For any that fall from the screen, you lose points.
(not compileable yet, but should be correct)
 
Only if you don't mention it in chat so the mods know you're gaming the system.
 
:D
 
Sneaky beaky.
 
you know, I can read deleted messages...
(this is not a mod privilege btw... this is a room owner privilege)
 
@MartinBüttner No kidding. It's a cute question but nothing too special.
 
7:47 PM
but yeah... sometimes this happens...
 
@Rainbolt Also, I'm not sure it would work anyway. It seems that flags are supposed to be auto-converted and don't count toward your helpful flag count: meta.stackexchange.com/a/224581/212780
Sounds like a good experiment to run :)
 
why do people call non-negative integers N+? is that correct?
I thought it's N
 
I like to call them non-negative integers, personally.
 
I call the positive integers N+
 
and N == Natural numbers == 0,1,2,3...
 
7:51 PM
(N, +)
 
I thought non-negative integers was just N
 
I call positive integers, positive integers
 
@Rainbolt N+ -> ZxZ still not ok
 
I can't understand this at all.
 
@Runer112 I think this is the normal/common
 
7:52 PM
In my line of work, negative numbers are red.
 
@randomra I just found that here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number#Addition
 
And positive numbers are black.
 
Ah, so just say "the set of all black numbers".
 
0 is colorless?
 
@Compass I think you are mixing up North and South of a compass
 
7:53 PM
@Runer112 No zeroes.
 
can someone please do a quick test for me? post a message. post another message. delete the second message. try editing the first message via the up-arrow key.
 
Zero doesn't exist. It is nothing.
 
If zero, nobody really needs an accountant anyway.
 
no zeroes? what a dreadful number system
 
test
 
7:54 PM
0 is black.
 
Up arrow does not work for this.
 
@Runer112 Welcome to Greece.
 
@Geobits does it work now?
(that you've posted another)
 
test0
test3
test4
test5
 
Hi
 
7:55 PM
Yes. Oddly, it lets me try to edit the deleted one, only to reject that when I hit enter.
 
Welp, chat is broken, RIP.
 
but it doesn't work if the deleted one is the most recent one, right?
 
It did that time, yes.
san
 
test
 
bug reporting time
 
7:56 PM
yup, doesn't work
 
Now it doesn't... weird.
 
Where is the instruction manual for this?
 
Instruction manual? Ha.
 
Sometimes I wonder what shrooms people use here. I want them too.
 
Whee now I know how to edit my messages after posting them without using the mouse.
 
7:57 PM
@Sieg ...says the giant eye.
 
I am the one who watches.
 
Wow, chat hates me. I'm getting rate limited just for trying to help :D
 
Isn't being a giant eye technically a giant weakness?
I mean, so easy to poke the eye.
 
Depends on how tough the eyelid is I guess.
 
I am 32x32 pixels. Not that big.
 
7:58 PM
Enhance. Enhance. Enhance.
 
My eyes are 1 by 1 pixel each
 
My eye is just a down arrow :(
 
@Optimizer You aren't an eye though.
 
dude, llamas have eyes, they are sensitive
 
I have four eyes
 
8:00 PM
Dangling modifier
Are the llamas sensitive or the eyes?
 
both
 
You all shall bend to my eye powers.
 
Wat.
Is it Ilama or Llama
 
@Geobits goo.gl/FsqcCz
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8:01 PM
because the lack of consistent capitalization is a nightmare
 
It's more a consistent lack of capitalization.
 
well i guess its consistently not capitalized
but then the author's name is capitalized
 
Of course it is, she isn't a savage :P
 
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Q: Can't use up arrow if the last message is deleted

Martin BüttnerThere is a weird bug in chat. Try this: Post a message, M1. Post another message, M2. Delete M2. Try hitting the up-arrow key. I'd expect still to be able to navigate to M1 to edit it, but it doesn't seem to work. But wait, there's more! Post another message, M3. Try hitting the up-arrow k...

 
Okay, enough with these images.
@MartinBüttner I didn't even know about up arrow. Thanks.
 
8:06 PM
Unfortunately, it doesn't work when texting people. SE chat has me spoiled that way.
 
Oh, how I would like to edit all my messages. Yes.
 
no
 
a
c
(Had to reproduce to upvote)
 
@Geobits At least it works on Skype. :P
 
@Doorknob But no editing :(
 
8:11 PM
@Martin Given only the first half of the bug, I would have said "As designed". But the second half of the bug clearly gives away that it isn't as designed.
 
Does it? I haven't used Skype in a few years.
 
Yes, it does. Skype is as designed.
 
@Geobits how else do you talk to your parents ?
 
Hangouts, phone, text, any of a thousand other ways.
 
@Sieg Hrm? Skype supports editing.
 
8:12 PM
My mom is an IT director and my dad worked telecom for 30 years...
 
I never knew.
 
up
 
It also supports limited substitution (ex. sending the two messages I'm a doroknob, s/doroknob/doorknob/ would result in a single message I'm a doorknob), which I discovered entirely by accident.
 
No freaking way. Anime has a thing for starred images. Want. meta.stackexchange.com/a/252556/254466
 
Fair enough. @Doorknob, please confirm or deny. Alternatively, wipe the comments as chatty/obsolete :D — Geobits 56 mins ago
 
8:13 PM
(As in, want without having to download or install anything)
 
@Rainbolt Yea, I saw that while hanging out there during the egg crisis. Looks pretty nice.
 
What are you talking about? Nothing but StackEgg existed on April 1.
 
That's what they want you to think.
 
See! He knows so much about them. He is them.
Geobits is the Man.
 
I haven't heard that since the early 2000s. Thanks :D
 
8:16 PM
Geobits is Illuminati?
 
And every time I click on a downvote button, I feel satisfied. Because I have stuck it to the Man.
 
but rep - 1
 
If quality isn't worth a single rep point, you're doing it wrong :P
 
@Geobits I'm going to go with the "wipe comments" option, but yes, I'm in Algebra II :P
 
That's right @Opti. Sticking it to the Man never gets you anywhere in life.
 
8:17 PM
@Rainbolt yes, with only the first half I probably would have tagged it feature-request
 
there should be an Illuminati AMA
 
Done. Ask me anything.
 
yes i am mr illuminati ama
 
I mean: What is this Illuminati you speak of?
 
that bug report is unreasonably popular
 
8:20 PM
@MartinBüttner Don't post it in chat next time then :P
 
I usually do if it was discussed in the chatroom before
 
I have trouble reading specs like "Foo will be printed." I much prefer "You must print Foo." The former just leaves me wondering "Printed by who? You mean me?"
Is that too harsh of a comment to post on codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/48724/18487 ?
 
cops and robbers sounds awfully familiar
 
It's a tag
 
It's a crummy name for the challenge, but it doesn't look like a duplicate. Also, @MartinBüttner, I like the icon change.
 
8:24 PM
Seems like a terrible game decided purely by random. But ok as a golf I guess.
 
what if I just make a solution that just selects one of the two outcomes at random and prints it
who cares if actually emulate the game, I get the right results
 
@BrainSteel Icon change?
 
@MartinBüttner I'm suddenly insecure. I do hope I'm not seeing a bug :P
 
kill it with fire!
 
8:28 PM
kill it with a bolt!
 
If I ever saw that I would scream like a little girl
 
I'm pretty sure that the CJam online interpreter's PRNG is biased
 
It's adorable!
 
I just ran a coin flip like 20 times in a row and got the same result
0011111111100011
I know the mind tends to see patterns in random data that are just attributable to randomness, but come on
 
Fun fact: If you flip a coin a million times, you have a 38% chance of seeing 20 heads in a row. (source)
 
8:32 PM
yes, but I only flipped like 100 times
 
That IS a fun fact!
 
Is that a fact ?
 
1000000000000001111
 
There is also a slightly bigger chance that you see tails than heads. (or vice-versa, I always forget)
 
just got that
 
8:34 PM
That's because the coin is slightly inbalanced.
 
@Optimizer Nevermind. My elementary school English teacher lied to me.
 
At least they was grammatically correct
 
I was taught that every declarative sentence was either a fact or an opinion.
But I just looked up "fact" and got "a thing that is indisputably the case."
 
Every declarative sentence is a fact.
Now see your brains melt.
 
A fun fact - you guys are 58% stupid
 
8:36 PM
Does that mean that we are 75% smart?
 
No, only 5%
 
The rest are imbesils?
 
Can confirm, am stupid. Three times in the past year, I would have had a perfect test score (in Physics, Differential Equations, and then Circuits I) had I remembered how to divide by 2.
The Circuits test came back this morning :(
 
Try multiplying by .2
 
Oh, and can someone with enough rep edit my answer into the sandbox? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/5064/31054 Thanks (:
 
8:39 PM
@BrainSteel I always hated that minor errors counted on Physics tests where calculators weren't allowed.
 
calculaters weren't allowed ? Is that in middle/high school ?
 
College
 
Calculators were totally allowed on that test, though. I multiplied by two, even after I wrote the equation down correctly.
 
Too easy to cheat with a calculator
 
@Rainbolt they restrict the versions
 
8:41 PM
That would imply that the professor has perfect knowledge of what calculators can be used to cheat and how.
 
My physics professors didn't care if we used a restricted set of calculators, they cared more about us understanding how to do the problem than the arithmetic.
 
That is a hard problem to solve. Not allowing them is an easy problem to solve.
 
@Rainbolt That is really easy to come up with
 
I actually had kind of a similar but not even close situation yesterday. I went to write a game engine. I ended up with an FRP system. With no game elements at all.
 
Anything higher than TI-84 is banned in 90% of my classes.
 
8:42 PM
You can't store equations in a TI-83?
 
We were only allowed Casio Mh series
no programming on them whatsoever
 
Well yea, forcing the entire class to buy a new calculator is another option.
 
nobody would have had a calculator before, so they buy only this one
 
And it would probably work if the entire Math department could agree on a single one
 
btw, everyone who voted on the meta post about changing the General Programming Questions close vote reason, Ilmari posted a new answer (which I think is really good, but regardless of how you like it, you still might want to vote)
 
8:43 PM
Nobody liked my answer, but nobody commented either so I don't care much.
I'm assuming the downvotes mean "I like this other proposal better"
 
well, I sort of commented in my answer
 
commenting directly is too mainstream for Martin
 
Oh, well thanks for pointing it out after so many votes have gone in. It's not even the part of the answer I care about, so I might have adjusted it.
The part I cared about was the CV reason wording.
It's so ridiculously specific to SO
With no data to back it up
In other words, the only reason we should have a CV reason that is so specific is if the majority of off topic questions actually do belong there.
 
Huh?
 
well I think they actually do, but not necessarily in the shape they're currently in
 
8:47 PM
@MartinBüttner Like I said, you need to support that with actual data IMO
 
can you filter questions by close vote reason?
 
Not by CV reason. By migrated to SO.
The CV reason is potentially abused because there is no other option except for custom.
So, some people might misuse it.
Look at it this way. If a question is off topic:
"Belongs on SO." -> Occasionally true
"Does not belong on PPCG." Always true
I would prefer if the always true wording was the default.
 
@Rainbolt we migrate much fewer questions to SO than we could. and just because a question might be on topic there doesn't mean we should migrate it, because it might not meet the quality standards. hence, I think a gentle pointer towards SO is just what we need.
oh wait
you just want a "This is off-topic" reason
I guess there is a reason why that doesn't exist. "General Programming Questions are off topic" is not even meant to be an always-true close reason.
 
hi @MartinBüttner
 
@Martin I didn't even want to start a debate about the quality of the question itself.
 
8:55 PM
hi, the third ;)
 
:)
I am about to repost my fastest-algorithm challenge.. now I realise it's really hard to find a fast algorithm :)
as a fastest-code challenge
 
I've edited this significantly, if anyone wants to recast their vote: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/5041/18487
 
@Rainbolt edited out the reference
@Lembik sandbox?
 
@MartinBüttner I am not sure.. I have learned a lot about the problem in the last few days
I feel I understand it now :)
 
understanding the problem is one thing. writing an unambiguous, loophole-free and interesting challenge is another. ;)
 
9:06 PM
point taken :)
but now I need some people to look at it :)
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

LembikCount the number of matrices that are permutations with a particular form The challenge is to write code that can count the number of n by n matrices with entries which are 0 or 1 with a particular property. That is for each matrix M there must be a permutation of the order of rows and columns o...

 
@Sieg is looking
 
@Optimizer Seig?
 
Huh?
There's some huge star in the sky. I wonder what it is.
 
:)
I was hoping someone was looking at my question!
 
9:15 PM
@Lembik patience ;) ... just leave it in there for a day.
 
I don't understand that challenge.
I have slept for 5 hours in the last 30 hours though.
 
@MartinBüttner patience! You are talking to the wrong man :)
@Sieg sleep!
 
Having some problems with sleeping.
Now explain that challenge, so I can win it.
I mean, ~/+R creates NxN Hankel matrix.
But I don't understand what to output
@Lembik
 
10:06 PM
Game-of-Thrones inspired esolang "Hodor": hodor-lang.org
 
10:22 PM
puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/11868/… <- anyone want to have a go at this?
and by "having a go at it" I mean "reading it aloud"
because somebody already answered it
 
10:47 PM
@BrainSteel I can commiserate. I once failed a physics exam because in the first problem I brilliantly concluded that 3+3=9.
That error propagated throughout the test since it was all based on one problem and each section built upon its predecessors.
Has a degree in math. Cannot perform basic arithmetic.
 
arithmetic is hard
 
It's at least a lot harder than it should be.
At restaurants I always tip in multiples of whole dollars to avoid doing any complex addition.
 
@MartinBüttner hey man (and anybody else waiting), sorry, I tried but just couldn't get the new CJam release ready on time... I'm also a bit sick at the moment
 
@aditsu: Sorry to hear you're sick!
I am as well. Perhaps it's communicable through Stack Exchange.
 
ditto, along with everyone around me
 
10:51 PM
@aditsu apology not accepted. the quest of beating Pyth obviously has priority over your well-being.
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Pyth can wait, but the google code jam qualification starts in a few minutes
 
why would I use cjam for google code jam? (apart from the language name)
 
That reminds me: Is CJam a portmanteau of "code" and "jam," perhaps named for the Google Code Jam?
 
cherry jam, I think
 
Oh yum, that's much better.
@MartinBüttner: I recall you mentioning on Meta that you're finishing a thesis. How is that going?
 

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