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4:00 AM
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Anonymous
> \b
 
> 4chan
 
@Mego white rectangle, white rectangle, white rectangle, white rectangle, white rectangle?
 
Anonymous
@Dennis Yep
 
@Dennis Golfed: "five white rectangles".
 
Anonymous
4:02 AM
@El'endiaStarman More golfed: "white rectangle"*5
 
@Mego But you say that as "white rectangle times five", which is longer.
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Who said anything about say? That's Python code, not Perl.
 
I'm talking English!
(Incidentally, that sentence has two meanings here. :P)
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Clearly not, otherwise you would have said "I'm speaking English!"
 
Anonymous
#grammarlawyered
 
Anonymous
4:04 AM
drops table
 
Well, Actually...
You could also read that to mean "I'm talking about English."
#grammarlawyeredbackatcha
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman Please explicitly state that to remove ambiguity. I'm voting to close because it in unclear in its current form.
 
Anonymous
6 mins ago, by Mego
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:25621996 doesn't seem to work in the interpreter. Does it take input?
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ Try it in Firefox.
Oh wait... lol nvm ᶊį`□`,5)
Forgot to escape backslashes.
 
Anonymous
4:08 AM
why does your code look like Perl code Zalgo text?
2
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ Oh okay now it works
Is it supposed to output 5 squares?
 
@Mego I speak 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟.
 
Anonymous
3 mins ago, by Mego
6 mins ago, by Mego
> □□□□□
 
Anonymous
4:12 AM
Chat mini-challenge: Write a program that outputs the language's name to STDOUT without just doing something trivial like print 'Python' - you can't create a single string containing the language's name and output it
 
print 'Pyth' + 'on'
 
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Q: What's my name? Produce the name of the language indirectly

Ty AuvilProduce only the name of a programming language using only the facilities of the language itself. The name of the language can only be invoked indirectly, i.e., from non custom environment variables, built-in functions or methods or the interpreter/compiler of the language. Output should be the n...

 
Anonymous
^
 
Anonymous
Do that, but as a chat mini-challenge :P
 
@Mego 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟: ɘ縗㠅㠇됬ʧQಊȑ妸ꀾ倀# 15 chars, 36 bytes
 
4:14 AM
@Mego Does: L.c`TeaS×Ê` count?
 
putchar("putchar"[3]); I must have been an idiot an year ago. — Mateen Ulhaq Apr 1 '12 at 1:50
 
Anonymous
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ ᶊį`□`,5) is shorter and produces the same output, with the exception of a zero-measure set of browsers
 
^^ @quartata's ancestor.
 
Anonymous
@Vɪʜᴀɴ I have no idea
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ Out of curiosity, why do you always include the character count when all of our scoring is done in bytes?
 
4:14 AM
^
 
I'm not saying it's bad or anything, just curious
 
Anonymous
no it's bad stop it now yeah I'm curious too
 
@AlexA. Yeah.
 
Anonymous
Good answer
 
Anonymous
"why do you do this?" "yeah"
 
4:17 AM
@Mego Yeah.
 
Anonymous
If I had a dollar every time someone suggested an edit to change 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 to ESMin in one of your answers, I'd never have to work again
 
Oh yeah, I should probably fix my previous submission: 'ɘ縗㠅㠇됬ʧQಊȑ妸ꀾ倀#' 17 chars, 38 bytes
 
And IIRC someone kept editing the character count out as well.
 
@Mego I'll explain it all now.
 
Anonymous
4:18 AM
@AlexA. Heh, didn't see that, I just always see the name edit in the queue
 
I keep char count b/c of all the nonASCII values.
You see, the byte to char ratios are disproportionate...
 
Does the Ask Different SE have a chatroom (that anyone knows of)?
 
It's a bit strange to see a large byte count slapped onto a short answer, you know?
 
@Geobits Thanks. How did you find it?
 
Anonymous
4:20 AM
reject "causes harm" "𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 is the name of the language as defined by the author, and thus is a valid spelling. There is no valid reason to change it to ESMin, stop doing that."
 
Indeed, it is harmful.
 
@ZachGates They're usually linked on the meta page for each site, right sidebar.
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ I don't think it's all that strange; it's pretty much expected when you see characters outside the ASCII range.
 
@Geobits Oh, ok. Thanks
 
@AlexA. ;*
 
4:20 AM
@AlexA. Strange is not the word... Perhaps discomforting.
 
@Mego Someone tell the hard-g GIF people that :P
 
@Doorknob huhwhat
 
Anonymous
We really need a reject edit reason for "No 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 is how it should be"
 
@AlexA. y u no semicolons
 
@Mego We do. It's "causes harm."
 
Anonymous
4:22 AM
@Geobits I've stated this before: there's a simple solution to the debate. Just don't use GIFs.
 
@Doorknob I coloned your semis now.
 
I juess so.
 
@Mego or just don't care about how people pronounce it because it doesn't matter
 
Anonymous
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ I'm adding that image to my standard reject reason now
 
Anonymous
4:23 AM
@Doorknob It doesn't matter, and it's a crappy format for animation anyways. We should all just call it "dead".
 
The only problem is that any evolution of Eevee is objectively better :)
 
Anonymous
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つPRAISE HELIX༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
 
Oh yeah, as of this writing, 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 is the only language whose name has either 5 boxes or doublestruck letters.
As of this writing
 
makes another box/blackboard bold language
 
If you ever need help thinking of a language name, I found an adverb list as that's what all the language names seem to be: enchantedlearning.com/wordlist/adverbs.shtml
 
Anonymous
4:25 AM
@Vɪʜᴀɴ Tbh Seriously should've been named "Annoyingly"
 
"Accidentally"
 
Seriously... ok, I count at least one adverb language.
 
Anonymous
I regret all of my design decisions, especially the ones I haven't made yet
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. No we're not talking about how you became a mod
 
4:25 AM
@Vɪʜᴀɴ Not Minkolang, Python, C, CJam, Pyth, etc...
 
@Mego D:
It was by votes though... ;_;
 
What's "Vitsy"? A noun?
 
@El'endiaStarman All ≈ some
 
@El'endiaStarman Seems so.
 
@El'endiaStarman It's what VTC wants to name his firstborn
4
 
4:26 AM
some ≈ one ?
 
all ≈ one? ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED.
 
Anonymous
@Geobits some ≈ body
 
It amuses me that my message is getting starred. VTC actually said that.
 
@AlexA. That's pretty much why I starred it. :P
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. Man he's trying really hard to become single :P
 
4:27 AM
haha
 
Anonymous
Senior year of high school is way too early to be thinking about firstborn names. Unless you live in Alabama, in which case it is way too late to be thinking about firstborn names.
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ "All", "≈", and "one" are each 3 bytes in UTF-8, there are three words... HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED?!
 
Anonymous
> foolishly
 
@Mego ಠ_ಠ
 
@Mego Your next language!
 
4:30 AM
@AlexA. ΔΔΔ
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman My current language, de facto
 
@AlexA. That's actually a language.
 
Yeah, you made it, right? :D
 
Anonymous
> haphazardly
 
4:31 AM
That sounds like a fun one.
Probably similar to "Half Broken Car in Heavy Traffic".
 
'-ly' should replace ++ in all languages. 'Cly'.
 
I like Drunkenly.
 
Anonymous
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ So I shouldn't name v2.0 "Seriously++"?
 
Seriouslyly
 
Anonymous
@Geobits That would be ShadyAsFuck
 
4:31 AM
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ Quite few languages have "++"...
 
@El'endiaStarman We shall change their names programmatically.
With the power of code golf.
 
@El'endiaStarman Really? I couldn't think of any other than C++.
 
Anonymous
> programmatical++
 
@AlexA. HQ9++
 
@Mego I thought that was Boringly ;)
 
4:32 AM
@AlexA. D++ seems to be a language
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ For realz? D has been incremented already?
 
There's a '++' for every letter of the alphabet, probably.
 
Anonymous
> inappropriately
 
> unwittingly
 
@AlexA. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
4:33 AM
@Mego D has been inappropriately incremented?
 
I count 8 instances of "++" on this Wikipedia page. 6 more distinct ones here on esolangs.
 
Anonymous
New goal: reply to all of Alex's messages with either a relevant adverb, or an adverb describing his ascent to modhood. Bonus for both at once.
 
Anonymous
> incorrectly
 
10 matches of ++ on Rosetta Code
 
> sadly
 
I am quite enjoying the "bad programming language names" discussion, and am recording all suggestions for future implementation
 
Anonymous
> joylessly
 
Oh by the way I thought of an extremely bad name for my new language.
Pterii.
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ that was already referenced by @El'endiaStarman
 
@VoteToClose I'm almost done with the Minecraft ASCII Art thing, just need to convert the big letters into JSON. I hope to post it by tomorrow night.
 
4:37 AM
It's up to you to figure out why because I've been too lazy to write a README :P
 
yes we forgot that one
 
@quintopia Forgetfully
 
> Helllo++++
 
Helloly++
 
4:38 AM
Looks like there's something like 6 more distinct ones there.
 
I'll name my language "17 bytes"
 
Anonymous
@quintopia Version 2: "19 bytes"
 
yawningly
 
4:39 AM
what about a language that simultaneously includes ALL brainfuck derivatives
fuckingly
 
Even finding all the bf derivatives seems like a neverending chore.
 
true. all the ones on the wiki at least
 
I propose a severely restricting language: Fivefoldly Severely Two-Dimensionally Restrictively. You get a 5x5 grid to write all of your code. Code is 2D.
 
it won't be TC
 
Should be 5D
 
4:41 AM
yes
give us a 5x5x5x5x5 grid
 
I shall go further: 5^5 dimensionality.
Think about it.
 
how about "as many dimensions as you want"
 
And you can call it Pentagon Alley.
 
then it's TC
 
Pentagonly Alleyly.
 
only 52 dimensions? weak
 
We must do infinite dimensions.
 
*week
 
*weakly
*weekly
 
4:45 AM
also i am slightly offended by the presumption on the part of the language's author
"HEY GO SEE ALL THE OTHER LANGUAGES I MADE, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE"
 
Anonymous
@quintopia "I MADE A BUNCH OF USELESS ESOLANGS I'M SPECIAL PAY ATTENTION TO ME"
 
will anyone care or notice if i delete the three non-dimension languages from that subsection?
i say no
 
I second that notion approvingly
 
4:47 AM
fix'd
"I will be adding more once I recharge my computer." lel
 
I'm somewhat surprised that people in here are offended by "I made a bunch of useless esolangs", to be honest.
We have a whole meta thread dedicated to posting your esolangs and all.
 
Well hey, mine's not useless! :D
 
:D
 
(Okay, maybe it is...)
 
Geobits I'm not offended by the concept of collecting links to esolangs, but by putting unrelated things in a section titled "See Also"
 
4:49 AM
Oct 14 at 21:36, by minxomat
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heh
 
@mınxomaτ this is true
 
hmm
 
Anonymous
much true very accurately
 
change PPCG to ... the esoteric community in general and it works for me
seeing as how I made far more useless languages pre-PPCG than since
 
4:52 AM
Weird that the chat history link shows my old username-style. I though it would update site-wide.
 
The transcript is permanent
It shows shit how it was, not how it is
 
(I'm at 12 published, only 2 since PPCG. I have a few more sitting around unpublished from a couple years back.)
 
Two since PPCG? Haven't you been a member for only a couple weeks? That seems a bit rushed ;)
 
if f and x are expressions, then `fx is an expression that applies f to the argument x Is that like f(x)?
 
4:54 AM
Guys, would you mind terribly much commenting on that: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/7548/47050
 
@Geobits Yeah, craziness is measured in GolfingLanguagesInvented/Day. So it's relative.
 
Anonymous
@quintopia Two since PPCG? And you've been a member for a couple weeks? That seems a bit slow ;)
 
I guess I'm one of the few here that don't bother writing languages that will never be used :P
 
@Geobits @Mego They were both inspired by the same language, and are vaguely similar, so let's say 1.5
 
@Geobits I with you.
 
4:56 AM
you guys should start a club
"Non-esoteric Programming Languages" chat room
 
We have a club. It was recently invaded by a bunch of newcomers >_>
 
You're welcome.
 
Codegolf Hipsters - "I invented unnecessarily terse languages before it was cool!"
3
 
@quintopia Funny you should mention that... since there is a chatroom dedicated to esolangs.
 
@mınxomaτ sounds like Urban Müller
 
4:58 AM
@mınxomaτ Not this guy. I use necessarily unterse languages, mostly ;)
 
@Geobits Java.
 
Anonymous
I saw that star
 
Yea, mainly. Beats C# :P
 
@Geobits Hahaha
 
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ You mean: public class Java { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("Java"); } }
 
5:01 AM
@Vɪʜᴀɴ You obviously don't golf Java.
 
Yeah, I'm not a Java guy.
I like JavaSCRIPT better.
 
@Geobits My comment on your Java infinite loop saying that Java is terribly verbose has more votes than your actual answer :D
 
@Geobits /s Java = JavaScript obviously so sure.
 
@mınxomaτ It's pretty ridiculous that the answer is at 41 anyway, IMO. Those catalog questions are nothing but rep-mines it seems. Most of the answers take barely any thought.
 
5:04 AM
@Geobits I know. I'm sitting in it. I was in there before I ever came here.
 
This always gets the noobs: аlert('Hi'). Run in the Javascript console.
Why did I post this? It's an idea for an upcoming challenge...
 
@phase what is o.c
 
Orange County
 
5:06 AM
@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ Damn it unicode characters that look like ascii characters
 
@phase golfing interpreters is p fun
 
p fun?
 
I think it's spelled phun.
 
oh
 
No, o, not oh.
 
5:09 AM
g
 
F
 
@phase wat (There is currently no text in this page.)
 
@mınxomaτ just add the semicolon back to the link, chat cuts it off
 
Anonymous
@quintopia Literally hell
 
5:14 AM
@phase Just encode it. %3B btw.
 
@mınxomaτ but nawww
 
^ I made a logo for TeaScript
 
Anonymous
145
A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

professorfishUsing two different chars which look the same Very common in underhanded contests: you set variable a to a value, then you set variable <CYRILLIC A WHICH LOOKS THE SAME> to another value, then you pretend they're the same thing. Most recent occurence is in the 2+2 = 5 question, in JavaScript, h...

 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ plagiarism.
more like coffeescript or java
 
I'm, uh, not sure it's trying very hard to hide that.
 
Anonymous
5:21 AM
@Optimizer Oh wow thanks for pointing that out, I would have never caught that
 
ur wlcm
 
@Optimizer I'll cite it, no plagiarism :D
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ not really sure its open source ..
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ Seems legit
 
Needs a teabag string hanging over the edge of the cup.
Then it's totally different, no trademark issues :P
 
5:25 AM
user image
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I added a disclaimer in the top left corner
 
Anonymous
10/10 would kick you out of art school
5
 
8/8
 
Anonymous
@phase gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ Is that someone putting their finger into the cup?
Did they at least wash the finger first?
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ
 
5:30 AM
@AlexA. It's a finger-teabag mutant
 
Oh, teabag! Makes sense because it's TeaScript.
 
@AlexA. oh wow no one noticed that at all, you're so smart you're like the next einstein
2
 
:/
 
@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ
 
More of a hook than a finger anyway.
 
5:32 AM
@phase so he's smart and right? much wow.
 
Captain Hook probably likes tea
 
^ the actual TeaScript logo but who cares about that
 
woah how u make dat
 
What's up with the dot grid?
 
Anonymous
I'm a fan of the Seriously logo
 
5:33 AM
@Geobits He made it with a dot matrix printer
 
Oooh, fancy
 
Anonymous
 
Teascript logo looks like three snakes.
 
Anonymous
interrobang is best bang
 
5:36 AM
How do you change a number to a character in Python (3)?
 
Anonymous
@phase chr(i)
 
@phase I found an online logo maker
 
pay only $39.99 to download the files. dafuq
 
Anonymous
@phase Or '%d'%i or '{}'.format(i)
 
@Mego fenks <3
 
5:38 AM
@phase That's why I screen-shotted it. I'll trace it over in paint and hopefully it'll look legit :p
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ gg
 
Anonymous
@Vɪʜᴀɴ score one for you, score nothing for the moneygrubbing fascists :P
 
Anonymous
@Geobits said nobody ever
 
Anonymous
except that one time
 
5:40 AM
I think you'll find that's not true.
Outgolfing C# is one of the small victories I enjoy here.
 
hey look it worked
 
Anonymous
neato
 
I got a logo for you:
 
I'm not sure if that's a programming language or tea shop/lounge.
 
@aditsu ಠ_ಠ
 
Anonymous
5:43 AM
^
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ ☕
 
@phase the if(t)if(l) thing is not only not TC, it's not even capable of interesting programs.
 
@quintopia darn, I was really hoping to implement a turing machine in it
 
is it urs
 
5:46 AM
False advertising
 
Not according to @Calvin'sHobbies.
 
That's legit
 
totes
 
@AlexA. Even Calvin has an off day sometimes.
 
5:49 AM
u_u
 
@Mego when you said "literally hell" were you referring to golfing interpreters?
 
@AlexA. NO ಠ_ಠ
 
No is the fifth studio album by the American rock band Old Man Gloom. Though the album saw a limited release during the group's May 2012 tours, it saw official wide release on June 26, 2012 through Hydra Head Records. No is Old Man Gloom's first studio release in eight years since 2004's Christmas. On May 29, 2012 the song "Common Species" was posted online for previewing. == Track listing == "Grand Inversion" – 2:25 "Common Species" – 7:59 "Regain / Rejoin" – 2:31 "To Carry the Flame" – 4:31 "The Forking Path" – 4:13 "Shadowed Hand" – 8:12 "Rats" – 8:09 "Crescent" – 4:25 "Shuddering Earth" – 14...
 
esolangs are fun
 
1 min ago, by Optimizer
@AlexA. NO ಠ_ಠ
 
5:51 AM
After inspect-elementing the site, you can literally just copy-paste the SVG from the html into a file and bam, you just saved $39.99 that you can now spend making more useless esolangs
 
Whoa
 
@Vɪʜᴀɴ one svg for 40 usd ?
 
@Optimizer one png or jpeg for $40
 
where ?
 
5:57 AM
Carrots Incoming
 

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