The Nineteenth Byte

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flawr

10:02 PM

One that is true way too often:

> “We didn’t read half the papers we cite because they are behind a paywall”

Dennis

aditsu

> We only did 5 iterations of the experiment because the intern was distracted solving code golf challenges

flawr

~~That sounds like me.~~ ~~I would never do that.~~ ~~I have never done that before.~~ None of my most popular answers were done like this.

aditsu

ꙩ___ꙩ

flawr

@aditsu No eyebrows?

Anonymous

10:07 PM

Be careful, don't start what you can't contain

aditsu

@flawr ⎺___⎺

flawr

ꙩ ___ ꙩ

quartata

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/61084/45151 grrr

Time to bounce back.

If I make not-arbitrarily chosen number printers, they get cracked. If I make them arbitrary I feel bad.

It's a lose-lose.

It is actually kinda sad how all of my interesting cops have been cracked and my boring ones have not.

The only exception to this rule so far is the PBASIC one and that's probably because people don't know the language.

Anonymous

The Lua one is driving me up a wall...

Anonymous

I've used Lua tons, so it shouldn't be that hard to figure out

quartata

10:17 PM

Link?

I don't know Lua but I do know Squirrel which is close enough

When it is eligible someone needs to post a bounty for a hexagony answer on this: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/61008/…

Anonymous

A: The Mystery String Printer (Cops)

Lua, ≤ 4 Output: 9.5367431640625e-07 You need to find a string for Lua REPL which results in "1/M" constant. It is simple, but not very trivial.

Anonymous

10:33 PM

I've got a 5-byte answer, but I can't figure out how to do it in 4

Dennis

5 is easy.

Anonymous

Yeah, 4^-10, 16^-5, or 32^-4... It's getting it down to 4 that's stumping me

Dennis

I'm not sure math is the way to go where. I've seen that particular constant rather often when people where timing their Lua code. Maybe it's a constant of some kind.

LOL. I've golfed a byte off my C answer to a challenge and got excited because I got an upvote. It was for an answer to that challgenge, but not the C answer...

Anonymous

That's what I thought too, but there aren't any constants of length <=4

feersum

10:57 PM

A: The Mystery String Printer (Robbers)

Lua <= 4, Egor Skriptunoff A lot of users were getting agitated about this answer in chat, so I must relieve them from their misery. I don't know Lua and wasn't able to test it, but I would be very surprised if this doesn't work. 4^~9 This would be pretty obvious, but probably no one got it b...

anyone can test it?

Dennis

That doesn't work in my version of Lua, but I also need a = for the REPL to return something.

feersum

Do you have the latest version (5.3)?

Dennis

No, I have 5.2.2.

feersum

Then it won't work--read the post.

Dennis

Oh, it should work then.

Anonymous

11:07 PM

It works

Anonymous

Grr

Dennis

Haha. I can't believe I was desperately searching for some obscure Lua feature, but didn't think of ~9. Nicely done, @feersum.

Anonymous

I didn't even think about ~, despite using it all the time in my python golfs. Good job @feersum, thank you for freeing me

feersum

lol

Dennis

I checked on my laptop. It has Lua 5.2.3.

I'm constantly amazed by how openSUSE (which is considered fairly stable) has almost almost newer versions of everyday interpreters than Fedora (allegedly bleeding edge).

Anonymous

11:13 PM

I had to manually compile and install 5.3 on Debian

Dennis

OK, but Debian is so far away from the bleeding edge that it's more like a bleeding dot to it...

Anonymous

I don't disagree :P

feersum

@Mego Probably you knew that Lua didn't have symbolic bitwise operators... as a non-Lua-knower, I did not have this mental block, hehe

Anonymous

@feersum See, I knew bitwise arithmetic was possible, but I never thought of applying it to the question. I'm gonna blame a lack of coffee.

Dennis

Huh, I almost posted the code instead of the output in my last cop answer. Force of habit...

Anonymous

11:18 PM

@Dennis Yes please do that, I want to actually be able to crack one of them

Dennis

It's a 4-byter. You still might. :P

A: The Mystery String Printer (Cops)

CJam, ≤ 4 3.724191778237173 Let's see how long this one lasts.

Anonymous

Yeah but it's CJam. I only know enough CJam to run the interpreter through a Python subprocess :P

feersum

That sounds like exactly the best knowledge to have for a 4-byter.

Anonymous

I mean, I definitely wasn't trying to brute-force the Lua answer, noo....

Dennis

Four bytes shouldn't have a chance against a brute-forcer.

feersum

11:22 PM

I suppose one must find the correct time and memory limits to allow the solution to complete, without crashing your computer.

If the interpreter's in Java though, it limits its own memory by default so no problem there.

Dennis

I'm still amazed this one hasn't been cracked yet:

A: The Mystery String Printer (Cops)

Pyth 939524095 Range ≤ 4 Let's see how this goes...

Anonymous

The main issue with CJam is, unless I missed something in the docs, there's no way to run a command-line script. If there is, please let me know so I can trim a few bytes from my Seriously answer.

Anonymous

Also I know about the same amount of Pyth as CJam - including how to run a command-line script. Brute-force, away!

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