@CopperKettle Sorry I left all of a sudden. My internet stops working sometimes.

It was a very nice discussion, as always.

See ya!

Bye!

@snailboat How can you ping to the right message on phone?

Laters.

@snailboat Hey, did you get my ping? :P

Hi all!

I can't respond to specific messages from my phone.

Mobile chat doesn't let you do that.

Okay

@arrowfar I can type in names with an at sign, though. That usually shows up like a reply to the most recent message, I think.

I see

Yeah makes sense.

My muscles all hate me right now.

We still get a lot of questions asking for answers from native speakers, even though these questions could be reasonably answered by non-native speakers

I used to edit things like that, but now I'm too lazy.

@snailboat Can you please approve my access request in the other room? I feel kinda left out :)

@snailboat You are a mod at least tell me what to do. It is wrong.

You guys aren't on topic there all the time I know.

It is offensive.

I'm in all of the rooms.

But I have no intention of arguing.

Oh, I meant all the ELL rooms.

@snailboat So can you give me access?

I'm also in the main ELU room and in the Japanese.SE room.

We used to keep multiple rooms open over on Japanese.SE for a while.

It wasn't really sustainable, though.

Well you are not here all the time.

And I see everyone there.

What I usually do is go to ell.stackexchange.com, then click on "chat".

Then I join whichever room I see people have been talking in.

@snailboat @M.A.Ramezani Then you guys will leave your avatars here too right? For me okay.

I used to have shortcuts set up for rooms, but now there are too many for me to keep track of.

@M.A.Ramezani Yeah, I sometimes use shortcuts that long.

I thought we were friends.

Or even longer. My shortcut for Japanese.SE chat is "chat" :-)

@M.A.Ramezani Nice!

When I first started using shortcuts, they were all single letters. But then I ran out of single letters!

@M.A.Ramezani Talk in the open room?

Nice!

On my phone I get e -> ell.stackexchange.com for the same reason.

Since I load it so often.

Duh I know.

Oh, that's not bad.

I always forget to check the newest sort.

So if people retag a bunch of stuff, or things like that, sometimes I miss new questions.

@M.A.Ramezani I know but it is very stressful for me.

I am chilling. That's why I come here.

@M.A.Ramezani We had a Tagpocalypse on Japanese.SE last week.

When it was done I found useful edits to make to the most recent questions so that they didn't get buried under the avalanche... :-)

Okay, what is your suggestion @snailboat? I'll listen.

@snailboat Can you tell Damk to give me access?

Well it feels like a punishment. Come on guys go easy on me.

I mean every time I feel like adding something to the discussion there I can't do it.

This is learning site and this is unfair..

@snailboat Answer please!!!!

@M.A.Ramezani I'm not going to persuade anyone of anything. It's not my room. I'm just visiting.

Actually, these shouldn't be my rooms either.

Let's see. I don't own the Cabin.

I think I'm still listed as an owner of the original ELL room.

There we go. I fixed that.

I'm no longer the owner of the ELL room.

@snailboat I mean the new room. Don't you think this is unfair?

@snailboat No one goes there.

I'm not in charge of ELL chat. I don't want the stress of moderating chat over here.

I'll moderate chat on Japanese.SE.

But then, Japanese.SE has almost never needed chat moderation.

So I just hang around here while everyone talks there in the other room?

Technically I'm a moderator on all of the SE chat network.

But that's not really what I signed up for. I wanted to help out on Japanese.SE.

I never said "Hey, I'll help moderate on ELL chat, too."

It is very stressful for me as well my friend.

And it's really pretty stressful dealing with chat moderation.

You are not alone.

I don't need that in my life right now.

@M.A.Ramezani Only metalinguistically.

I didn't sign up to be debased in front of everyone here myself.

@CopperKettle Hey man I am not allowed there!

What should I do?

@snailboat Seriously? You are mad at me now?

What happened to the leaving your avatar here @snailboat?

@M.A.Ramezani She left.

@M.A.Ramezani Man this apartheid is very difficult for me.

@CopperKettle !!!

@snailboat Okay don't compare me with pazzo please. I can see what you are saying there.

@snailboat This is unfair. That's all.

@snailboat Can you please come here for a bit?

okay

I am listening.

Sure.

@M.A.Ramezani MA please give us some space. Pretty please.

@DamkerngT. Yes it is.

@DamkerngT. It seems like a punishment to me man. I am very sorry about the past.

What bothers me is that I can't participate there when everyone I know is there. It is unfair. Simple as that man.

So it is personal then? Come on man we have known each other for more than a year.

Can't you rise above?

The thing is no one feels comfortable talking in two separate rooms (in one site).

@DamkerngT. What is it for me? I come in all day's work to chat with the people I know, nothing wrong with that I bet.

@DamkerngT. I am sorry. We were both enraged. I was offended too you know.

No one questions me why I talk to xyz anywhere. So why should it matter here? This is a free site.

@DamkerngT. But it was not like this before was it? So what changed you started ignoring my posts and it caused confusion like the other day. So can't we just call it truce?

@DamkerngT. I am listening to you now :)

I thought we were friends I mean before this. I have no grudge against you you know.

@DamkerngT. I can explain it to you about what happened if you want.

Here goes:

MA give us a minute please.

Okay what I am about to say may be offended to some people here but the thing is I was getting offended about the way things were going on in the ELL chat room.

types

No two -ing would be wrong MA.

Damk you there?

Anyway I mean Damkerng, I think you know me better than that, I never come here for any hidden agenda whatever that may be. And I was getting frustrated by many things like MA's jokes, people correcting me again and again (I am sorry to say this), dirty talk here (I don't mind that in ELU because that is what that room is for) like jokes about masturbation, sex etc.

And finally (I am sorry to say this) as soon as I saw your message "calm down" I lost my nerves.

I better not name names but Jim made that joke.

And people starred it (that joke) and someone said Arrowfar has starred the masturbation joke too. My temper flared after that.

MA please give us a minute sweetums :-)

@M.A.Ramezani Let me search the other room.

Not here no.

@DamkerngT. But I did star one part of that joke to be honest. Well just for fun. I was in a lighthearted mood until then.

Yes Damk is right. Let us talk MA.

@DamkerngT. Hmm like I said it was all a build up of the past frustrations here (I was getting fed up with all kinds of silly talk you know). But I should have talked to you politely I know, I am again saying: I am really trully sorry, I was very tired that day honestly and couldn't decide how to tell everyone to behave like normal people.

@M.A.Ramezani Yeah I should have talked to Damk politely. My mistake I know.

Well Damk can attest that I never behaved like that before. It was a strange behaviour from my part I know. Sorry.

Well today you guys can say anything mean to me. I am all ears.

I am okay now, but let's hope my internet doesn't stop working all of a sudden :-)

@DamkerngT. Yeah I agree. Well Shog9 told you to kick me out next time right? :-)

I was embarassed too man.

@DamkerngT. Yeah it is the sad part.

@DamkerngT. Yeah I remember my sentence until today. I said some weird stuff I know. I felt like I was being attacked, I mean I couldn't read you and MA that day to be honest. I never should have said something like that in front of everyone.

I know. You could say something like that for me as well if you want.

@DamkerngT. Well umm you complained to terdon too in a "separate room" man. But I never said anything. That snail's absence is due to Arrow. I forgot after reading that room's transcript. I thought about entering there but it would have been another flame war. So can we call it even? :P

@DamkerngT. Ow dear!

@DamkerngT. Well, yes, because my name was all over the place. But no one gave anyone timeout or anything remember.

@DamkerngT. Well look at it objectively please will ya? If I am the only bad guy here then what about all those time that we spent chatting here? I mean I even shared family/work life stuff with you and now all this? I feel awkward too.

@DamkerngT. You can create hundred different rooms but hear me out: People will only talk in one room per site and this craziness I can't tolerate (I am saying politely) because I am losing all my friends here. What will I do in an empty room? Think about it.

@DamkerngT. I know.

@DamkerngT. You can click one button and unsubscribe yourself as a room owner like snail did. What matters is I am being punished here. What will I do in an empty room? It is non sense.

@DamkerngT. I did not. I followed the crowd here! Remember that!

@DamkerngT. I go where I see people in ELL rooms. Not any particular being

@DamkerngT. People went off topic here all the time, so why are you singalling me out? I don't see your point in this. We are just wasting our time.

Because it is personal now?

I don't know why can't you get it over with.

I am not :)

To chat and learn stuff.

Why I am being interrogated here?

Okay I don't have much time for this. I have said sorry like a zillions time now I have to go to work tomorrow. So will you approve my access request in the other room? Or at least try to cut the conversations short.

Well it has come to this. So be it.

@DamkerngT. Like what? Feel free to enlighten me.

Yeah I talk like Jasper I know.

Well say it my man.

@DamkerngT. Any examples so I can judge myself? Politics? Well people in all rooms talk a bit about politics and religion. Personal life? Well I like to share. What else?

@DamkerngT. To be honest you are creating a monopoly here and this is a free site. So if you make a room and welcome everyone except me then I have no choice but to call the mods.

Yes it is. Snail talks freely there all the time. About food etc. and I can't?

She does and everyone else does. I know it.

I am an auditor in real life my friend and I know when something fishy is going on.

And right now you are bent on kicking me out of all ELL rooms. It is that simple.

No you are not ready to listen old friend.

You could let me talk with everyone and everything goes back to normal.

No because snail, MA. Copper and everyone I know (including me) feel comfortable talking in a single room on a single site.

Two rooms in a single site?

That is outrageous. I mean when they are allowed and I am not.

So tell them to leave here avatar here as well? Well they will never do that and what am I? An idiot? I will feel pathetic man. That's not how it is done.