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03:49
close this PSQ. It appears that integral PSQs are almost always received positively.
 
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10:16
This question is not written in english, it is written in german.
 
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13:04
User seems to have the meaning that the Riemann hypothesis must be provable under all circumstances.
Require some advice about questions of mine: math.stackexchange.com/q/3798631/650339 is closed (this morning) but result serves as input for: math.stackexchange.com/q/3822679/650339. I am amateur but attempt to do best of my abilities.
@OOOVincentOOO This room is typically meant for coordinating specific action on questions which required it. if you are looking for more general feedback or assistance, you might have better luck in the "Constructive Feedback" chatroom.
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14:02
I see no reason to delete this
15:00
@Peter: that question is a PSQ. Moreover the claims by the asker are wrong. And there is no further feedback from asker.
Another PSQ related to integrals. Please close. I really dislike integral PSQs however challenging the integral maybe.
@ParamanandSingh Whether the trials are correct does not matter. For me, an effort is visible. Not very much, I admit. But enough for me not to delete.
@ParamanandSingh why should it be closed?
@GeorgFriedrichBernhardRiema: are you referring to the PSQs related to integrals I mentioned?
15:15
If yes then definitely they should be closed like all other PSQs which show no effort from asker. No context (thoughts about problem, source, etc).
The level of difficulty of a question should not be a factor in deciding closure
Maybe the user does not know where to start from
That's what one calls "no clue questions" and they should be closed.
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You have to make a try even if you fail and show that attempt in the question. Suppose you can't even try then make your question interesting to others by sharing information like source of problem, some potential ideas / thoughts, some history of the problem or any thing related. Just don't give problem statements like in textbook exercises.
If someone presents a random integral with a supercomplicated expression , I would also close it as "no mathematics within the scope defined in the help center". But this case occurs rarely.
Okay
But since he is a new user, rather than just closing, suggest improvements in the comments
These are not random integrals, but taken from famous source (but information is hidden). Some people apply some crazy substitution to change the integral to even more complicated form. The idea is get reputation just by using toughness factor
15:22
If he does that in every question, then they can be closed.
He is new
In one of the two questions i mentioned, I have given a comment.
But every now and then we see such questions and I lose the incentive to write a comment. Copy pasting comments for me is difficult as my entire activity on mathse is via smartphone
As to new askers here is an example of a good user: math.stackexchange.com/q/3953893/72031
Wow such a nice question
He would have read the guidelines
This user is 4 days old and asked 2 nice questions.
People who frequent this chatroom are generally very well behaved if they get even an iota of evidence of sincere effort from asker and depending on their expertise go to great lengths to help the asker.
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A good practice is however not to apply rules blindly. Surely, most questions showing no effort (whether this is the case is not always easy to decide) are "do my homework"-questions, but not all ! Experienced users usually can welll distinguish them. I agree that the site should not become a "do my homework" service, but almost every rule should have exceptions.
15:40
@Peter: rightly said, there are exceptions to this rule and I have noted several exceptions applied to integral PSQs. But the asker is generally well experienced and gives some more information apart from problem statements. One user (whose posts I have seen) also gives numerical evidence about the integrals.
But one can make mistakes in judgement (regarding closure deletion) and personally I am always willing to rectify my mistakes.
Also in case anyone is wondering I am no expert at integrals and can hopefully (?) solve the integrals from a typical intro calculus course and not beyond. So for me it may be really difficult to figure out whether the integral is a typical homework variety or a research one. So i tend to give some benefit of doubt to the asker occasionally
 
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16:56
Dec 14 at 3:31, by user21820
Terrible post that the author did not fix despite the error being clearly pointed out in a comment.
^ This bad answer still needs one more downvote before it can be deleted.
17:25
D1, D2, D3.
D4, D5, D6.
17:38
@GeorgFriedrichBernhardRiema The point of closing a question is to take it off the table so that the asker can improve it before off-topic answers are added. The close text does give advice on improving questions. Of course, close voters are encouraged to add more advice, if time and motivation are sufficient to do so.
@user21820 What does "I will compass here to exemplify a case not yet discussed:" even mean?
@XanderHenderson It means "I will surround all of you here and show you your faults.". Just joking.

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