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1:31 AM
@amWhy dv'd I know that sometimes it can make the process easier
I'm at about 1900 right now so shouldn't be too long until I have more to offer in that department. Review queue's at 2k and i know martin said in certain circumstances I can do more than "make reccomendations".
 
@DavidReed You'll be there in no time. You've been very helpful, already!
 
2:03 AM
Hi, @user21820!
 
2:28 AM
@amWhy: Hello!
 
@user21820 Did you catch some refreshing sleep?
 
@DavidReed I have a suspicion that a lot of students come across Math SE and see so many full-solutions that they think "Ah I could try and see whether someone will do my homework for me!"...
@amWhy Sleep yes; whether refreshing we shall see later. =P
 
@user21820 hehehehe
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty tired, so I might head to bed a little earlier than usual tonight.
 
Oh okay. Have a good rest then and see you next time!
 
@user21820 Yeah, I'm fading..... I'll see you in my tomorrow morning and your evening today!.
 
2:41 AM
@amWhy: You accidentally left the comment with a typo here.
 
2:58 AM
flag'd! :P
 
3:29 AM
@user21820 Yes, there are still the recreational lot out there though (like myself). Frequently they will buy a txt and then go through the HW probs on their own. So one needs to be careful as they don't have the same resources as the "cheaters". Admittedly, they are in the minority, hence my phrasing of the @everybody post I made in here yesterday
 
@DavidReed @user21820 As I attempted to allude to yesterday, I don't think that the motivation of a questioner should really matter. Either the question is a good one, or it is not. Typically, PSQ-style questions are no good. They are generally too specific, and of relevance only to the person actually asking the question.
Why assume bad intent when one can vote down a bad question without any such assumption?
 
I think I was initially attracted to this site because I'd google for a proof of something and it would be here. The tinier corollaries that tend to be in the HW probs for proof courses. Then when I saw one that was wrong and tried to comment on it. I was perturbed I had insufficient to do so, so I decided I'd work up to 50 and then eventually got hooked
 
Honestly, this seemed to be the crux of the issue that another certain someone was having yesterday. :\
 
I agree with your statement for math overflow certainly. I'd have to think harder for this site. Personally, if someone is struggling to understand something and legitimately wants to learn what I type up, and not just copy it down for an exam, I'm happy to help them.
 
@DavidReed I am happy to help them. But I don't think that MSE is the forum for that kind of help. This is supposed to be a searchable repository of well-stated questions with relevant answers.
if there are too many homework style questions, all of which are very similar but not quite the same, the usefulness of the site diminishes as a repository
 
3:36 AM
You make a valid point. I don't think of it as a chegg like site
 
folk who want help with their homework should find a forum for that purpose, or GO TO OFFICE HOURS!
what is a chegg?
 
chegg.com
is basically a hw help site that has written out answers to all questions asked in a large library of txts
For instance, every HW problem in Gallian's algebra book is completely worked out on that site
 
They are not vetted though and are sometimes incorrect. Kind of use at your own risk sort of thing. It requires a monthly fee. I found it quite useful for physics.
 
3:56 AM
There ought to be a place on the interwebs for open-source-style homework help, with, perhaps, an SE kind of vibe, but MSE is not that place :\
and maybe I don't even agree with what I just said... maybe office hours and one-on-one interaction are better for everyone
 
Indisputably office hours would be better.
 
well, maybe not indisputably---I ended up with more than 100 students in a four hour final exam review office hours last quarter; and only about 30 of those were mine :\
I'm not sure that was better for everyone :)
 
I spent probably 10 hrs a week in one professors office, continued even after I was done with his class. We never even discussed the curriculum I was always asking about peripheral stuff and showing him easier proofs etc. Quite frankly I'm amazed he never kicked me out
I still email him
Yes I was going to mention certain schools, especially community colleges, office hours tend to be more like extra classes than 1 on 1. Especially for the lower lvl courses like Cal I/II
 
indeed; at big schools, there are often hundreds of students enrolled in a single class; office hours are a nightmare
this quarter, I'm doing them all online
I'm hoping this keeps it manageable for everyone
 
Interesting idea
 
4:04 AM
we'll see how it goes
okay, I'm going to bed now; g'night
 
4:26 AM
@amWhy nah, not yet. I first want to set up a useful definition of the cheese derivative. The differential fork definition of an alternate derivative is... nice but it isn't exactly malleable.
hopefully it takes me less than two years
which is how long it took for the piecewise constant one
 

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