The Whiteboard

5:01 PM

in that sense, this question isn't actually a bad interview question - it is fairly simple if you have any idea how efficiency of an algorithm works, what a dictionary/array are, how to write loops/logic, etc, but if you don't... it will be hard

Lightness Races in Orbit

yeah I know

it's a good interview question

I'd happily ask it myself

I just hate being put on the spot to talk through shit like this

prefer talking it over with myself tbqh

meh I dno

I'm just scared of interviews in general because they're interviews and I think it's tainting my opinion here

Ampt

@LightnessRacesinOrbit if it makes you feel better, almost everyone in here agrees that interviews are really bad and useless at most places.

@enderland's experience seems to be the exception rather than the rule

Lightness Races in Orbit

:P

enderland

@Ampt what do you mean? I had a fubar interview at this company, and a so-far-good one too

Lightness Races in Orbit

I do well in pressure situations .... when left alone to do the work. I excel at it.

Dumped into social pressure situations such as interviews? Not so much.

I'm super cool and suave until the moment I sit in that chair.

Ampt

5:08 PM

Jan 13 at 17:51, by Robert Harvey

"What is your greatest weakness?" You mean, other than a dislike of bad interview questions?

Lightness Races in Orbit

Not the only one, of course.

user55340

The only things worse than interviews are cover letters and resumes.

Ampt

Apr 30 '14 at 15:21, by enderland

arg dont get me started about interviewing practices

@LightnessRacesinOrbit which is why interviews are so bad. they test for shit that has 0 application in what we do

they are mostly "How many hoops can HR make this candidate jump through before they give up!"

Lightness Races in Orbit

unfortunately I've never thought up a way to reasonably test the things that I think would actually make me desirable in a worker hunt

Ampt

then you end up with masochistic candidates who know jack all about coding and can't pass fizzbuzz

Thomas Owens

5:11 PM

I hated the Google interview. Asked me a bunch of stupid algorithm questions. Nothing about requirements, OO design, testing, language concepts, process, project management.

Ampt

@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's the real trick, isnt it

Lightness Races in Orbit

@ThomasOwens second time silly recruiters tried to get me to go into the process I got as far as the usual spiel sending me that huge list of crap to revise .. and just went .. y'know what... I don't have time for this. sorry but no

enderland

@ThomasOwens this interview had two separate interviews, one was more technical and testing focused, the other was people oriented (so questions about requirements, process, project management, etc). It was good they spilt it that way

Lightness Races in Orbit

I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to memorise every sorting algorithm in five different languages along with implementations of linked lists, hash maps, regex parsers, blah blah blah

Thomas Owens

@LightnessRacesinOrbit What do you mean they sent you stuff to revise?

Lightness Races in Orbit

5:12 PM

Give me a task to do with access to Google I'll do it well, and the code will be solid, robust, reliable, reusable, maintainable, well-documented and conform to specifications. It will also be under budget and way ahead of schedule.

But fuck off with your interview crap!

@ThomasOwens the Irish Google recruiters have a Word document that goes on for pages that reads like a University syllabus

"before going in you should make sure you are up to speed on x, y, z" total nonsense

Thomas Owens

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't have that for Google Cambridge. They mentioned a few high level things. And then they proceeded to drill me on two: data structures and algorithms.

Lightness Races in Orbit

I'm talking about the recruiters

user55340

That's the type they want to hire - people recently familiar with the university syllabus.

Lightness Races in Orbit

heh

Thomas Owens

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know. The recruiter contacted me on LinkedIn or something like that. Didn't give me any detailed list of things to study.

Lightness Races in Orbit

5:14 PM

ok good for you

Thomas Owens

Not that I would have anyway. I'm a software engineer, not a computer scientist.

Lightness Races in Orbit

exactly me too

user55340

Specifically, they want bright and enthusiastic young people who they can burn out over five years.

Lightness Races in Orbit

Facebook didn't but I had a feeling the interview itself would have been similarly blinkered

@MichaelT heh again

user55340

Who don't know they shouldn't be working 60+ h weeks without end.

Lightness Races in Orbit

5:15 PM

anyway I'm going to win millions on the lottery so I won't have to worry about any of this

user55340

Who want some stock so they can win millions and go off to their own startup.

Lightness Races in Orbit

nah I want to win millions on the lottery then live on the beach

and forget about all of this and all of you :)

Ampt

awwwww, no invite to the beach?

boooooo

Lightness Races in Orbit

no imposters allowed on my beach

Thomas Owens

I'm still a little bitter that a lot of companies don't see the value in a process improvement team or organization and don't want people familiar with developing and improving business processes. You see it a little in a Scrum Master, I guess.

enderland

5:17 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit just plan on retiring very early :P

user55340

'98

Lightness Races in Orbit

@ThomasOwens yeah I suppose one of the only decent things about Scrum Master as a business role is that it's software process codified in the organisational heirarchy

@MichaelT doesn't matter, you deleted & I forgot figures

Thomas Owens

Unfortunately, Scrum Master positions usually have a requirement for that stupid certification.

Lightness Races in Orbit

heh I think if we ever hired an official Scrum Master here the only requirement would be a pulse

user55340

The stock hit a high of $150/share.

Lightness Races in Orbit

5:19 PM

as it's the only requirement for all the other roles

and even then we have apparently bent the rules in some cases

enderland

@MichaelT depends if you sold them before or after the bubble ;)

Lightness Races in Orbit

STOP DELETING MESSAGES

Ampt

(removed)

Lightness Races in Orbit

you're removed

from my royal presence

Ampt

@MichaelT just tell me you sold them and let me think you're just doing this because you want to.

Thomas Owens

5:21 PM

Swift is open source now.

enderland

if I ever get options I will make a defined plan when I would sell them, and operate by that plan exclusively regardless of what I feel about it

Lightness Races in Orbit

@ThomasOwens That was fast.

Ampt

I choose to believe you sleep on stacks of cash.

user55340

I have no mortgage.

user55340

... On either house.

Ampt

5:22 PM

STACKS OF CASH DAMNIT

user55340

Sorry.

enderland

you can have both stacks of cash and stacks of houses, just move to detroit (as long as you don't get shot)

actually having a defined plan for money ahead of time is a good idea regardless of options or investments or income, too, just more important with investments you might make more feeling based decisions on ;)

user114359

@enderland my plan for money is to acquire as much of it as possible.

enderland

@Snowman acquire? or... keep :)

user55340

I bet @Snowman likes oomlox too.

user114359

5:29 PM

@enderland being an interchange medium, keeping it is useless. I want to buy stuff! Big, expensive stuff, like a steak bigger than I am.

user114359

@MichaelT morewords.com/word/oomlox

user114359

@enderland nope, over a decade short of that goal.

user114359

I could still make it happen, but that would involve doing things I don't want to do anymore. Such as slashing my salary by 75%.

enderland

ahh, bummer (well, maybe). my grandfather retired a Lt Colonel in USAF so... that's a nice benefit for him I think ;)

user55340

Oomox- memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Oo-mox

user114359

5:32 PM

@MichaelT creepy. I am not a big Star Trek nerd so I wasn't aware of that.

user114359

But it sounds like something Mr. Rogers would enjoy while the camera is following the trolley.

user55340

The implication was you were a follower of the rules of acquisition.

user55340

Rules of Acquisition

The Rules of Acquisition, in the fictional Star Trek universe, are a set of guidelines intended to ensure the profitability of businesses owned by members of the ultra-capitalist alien species known as Ferengi. In the Deep Space Nine episode titled "The Maquis: Part 1", Sakonna, a Vulcan, asked Quark to explain what a Rule of Acquisition was. He stated: "Every Ferengi business transaction is governed by 285 rules of acquisition to ensure a fair and honest deal for all parties concerned... well most of them anyway." The first mention of the rules within the Star Trek universe was in Star Trek: Deep...

user114359

@enderland Federal retirement (military or civilian) follows two general rules. 1. base retirement is calculated from your "high 3" which is average of your highest-paid 36 months of service, typically near the end of your career due to rank/tenure. 2. once you are retirement-eligible, your piece of the pie increases by a percentage.

enderland

@Snowman yeah, that's why I expect his would be nice...

user114359

5:36 PM

Staying in longer and longer can greatly increase retirement pay. Get a promotion and stuck around for three years? That's a larger amount to start. Three more years tenure? That's an additional 3% as a civilian or 7.5% as military

enderland

@Snowman yeah, lt colonel is currently 8k/month salary with 20+ years service...

user114359

Being a true taxpayer-subsidized pension, it also never runs out

user114359

20 years is the minimum for military, starts at 50%

user114359

maxes out at 30 years, 75%

user114359

dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/…

user114359

5:40 PM

As an O-6 (LtCol) and let's say 24 years... that would be $6,141.60 per month. Live in the right state and don't pay state or local taxes on it, either.

enderland

yeah. I almost went into the a navy program during undergrad... still not sure if that was the right choice or not :)

user114359

ROTC is the way to go. I wish I had done it.

enderland

yeah. you build that 20 years experience in undergrad, so you start with ~4 years service already? while getting paid? WAT

user114359

Reserve time is calculated differently. They only count duty days, but they count double.

user114359

So one year toward retirement will take more than one year.

enderland

5:44 PM

the program I was thinking of would have given me an O1 rank I thnk for ~30 months in undergrad, so it would have counted. I forget exact details

user114359

@enderland don't forget that unless you seriously screw up, you will be an O-3 after four years in any branch.

enderland

@Snowman navy.com/joining/college-options/nupoc.html

that was the program I was considering

yeah, but I mean during school itself, I would have gotten some crazy amount of money per month

user114359

@enderland that is one of those special programs to entice people into a crappy job that is chronically understaffed.

enderland

@Snowman yeah, it didn't seem to be the best thing (I would have wanted to be an instructor, not a nuke engineer, had I done it) overall b/c of that

user114359

I am not familiar with the job, but I am familiar with the sales pitch and I know that any type of nuclear technician in the Navy is a crappy job.

user114359

5:46 PM

Imagine being stuck in the engine room of a nuclear sub for months at a time.

user114359

Very little human interaction, high pressure job.

enderland

yeah

user114359

I don't know exactly what they do, but the work environment is terrible according to Navy guys I knew.

enderland

though if your goal is making money

pretty good route to go

as long as you don't care about a boring and family-killing job...

Lightness Races in Orbit

only two messages deleted in the last 20 minutes

are you guys feeling okay

enderland

5:53 PM

LOL. one of our customers sends me/my boss and cc's the affected team an email like, "please let us know before changing our permissions and removing accesses, thanks"

tempted to respond, "I agree, it'd be great if I knew when you change permissions too, I didn't know this change was going to happen and break things either"

user114359

The way to do it is not to have a family at that age. Let the military pay for college so you have little to no student debt. Become an officer, so you immediately have good pay ($36k and no housing to pay for in the Navy). After four years, you will be an O-3 making a little over $60k.

user114359

No student loans. Let that sink in. Military has a housing allowance on top of base pay. So if you are not living on an aircraft carrier that pay does not count housing. That housing allowance scales with location, too, and can be a few thousand per month.

enderland

especially with taht NUPOC program, you'd make I think it was like $2500/month or something (forget what it was) just for existing too for the last 30 months of your undergrad

user114359

So when I say I wish I did ROTC then went active duty after... does it make more sense now?

enderland

oh, yup

user114359

5:56 PM

@enderland that is the type of job that probably has special duty pay, and being a warship you get combat pay

enderland

yeah, they showed some of the pay breakdowns and it got pretty crazy pretty fast

user114359

Even as an O-1 you would be making a lot more than $36k, and have almost no expenses. Just bank it all.

user114359

Now if you were not on a Navy ship you would have more costs, but it is still a good deal even if $36k seems low for having a degree.

user114359

Stay in for 20, retire making around $48k per year plus good medical (costs money though) plus base privileges world-wide, and start a civilian career.

enderland

yeah. Knowing whatI know now about finances I would probaby have done very different approaches to life at 18, when I made quarter million+ financial decisions

ah, so searching for the documents I got sent, they would have paid me at the E3/E4 rate while in college (so about $30k/year equivalent) for up to 30 months

user114359

6:02 PM

@enderland Sounds reasonable. Most full-time commissioning programs pay at the E-5 rate which is only slightly more.

enderland

this is interesting to look back on actually, at the time I had no concept for money at all lol

user114359

I could have done ROTC but didn't want to deal with the physical requirements. Of course, I ended up dealing with them anyway.

user114359

for less money

enderland

tbh I think if it had been easier to apply I probably would have done that program, but they required your future firstborn's SSN practically for getting on an SSN

user114359

speaking of firstborn, mine is a few years away from making a similar decision. He still has a little maturing to do but I might try to persuade him to do ROTC.

user55340

6:09 PM

My brothers comment on the navy was "some times you need to jump in the ocean to find you don't like swimming". He was in the navy for ~6 years when he needed some direction in his life.

user114359

@MichaelT military is great for opening your eyes to the world and putting things in perspective. Every job I've had, I have had managers show genuine concern about asking me to do too much. Sorry, but I've been through worse. This is nothing I cannot handle.

enderland

I also have been fascinated by the navy since childhood, going on their tour of a SSN and other stuff was really interesting even though I didn't end up doing the program (since I wanted to do grad school, apparently, is the reason at that time...)

user114359

I just got a call from employer--'s voice mail system informing me of a new voice mail and asking if I want to listen to it. I had the voice mail notifications forwarding to my cell phone.

enderland

0

Q: I'm a salary employee that worked on Monday but the company sold out on Tuesday. Does my company have to pay me for the full week. I'm in NH

I have been with my company for 22 years. I am a salary employee. I went to work on Monday and on Tuesday the company sold off to another company. I was terminated at the end of the work day Monday. My company only paid me for Monday, should they have paid me for the full week as I was still read...

salary

wow that situation sucks

user114359

Sorry, my GAS gauge is empty.

user41796

6:18 PM

@Snowman Friend of mine had gotten back after a tour in the initial desert storm. He walked out of a pretty rough meeting where he'd been grilled pretty intently. A friend asked how he was feeling. His response was to the effect of "there's no gun to my head; I'm not getting shot at; and there won't be any bombs on the side of the road while I'm driving home tonight. I couldn't care less about that meeting."

user114359

@GlenH7 that pretty much sums up how I feel about "difficult" work situations post-military.

user114359

@enderland If NH is an at-will employment state (I think most are) then oh well.

enderland

yeah, I don't doubt it

Thomas Owens

@Snowman I believe it is.

Source: I lived there for like 3 years.

Duga

I'm not 100% sure but maybe you'd better ask on Programmers Stack Exchange — 0X0nosugar 51 secs ago

Jimmy Hoffa

6:45 PM

@Ampt Scotch as a rule is quite expensive. There's a reason for it though; the flavors you get from Scotches are significantly more pronounced than all the other whiskeys. And I don't mean, it tastes more boozey; it tastes just as boozey as other whiskeys but has far stronger other flavors with it. The reason people sip scotch is because the flavor is so rich, anything more will turn your face over, and likely your stomach.

user41796

@JimmyHoffa picked up some bowmore instead of connemara. Couldn't find the connemara. :-(

Ampt

@GlenH7 That was essentially the plot to The Hurt Locker, no?

Jimmy Hoffa

@GlenH7 "Oh darn..." :P

Ampt

@enderland that sucks a ton. 22 years and see ya later!

user41796

@Ampt Maybe? My friend was running supply trucks during that time. Had been reserve and was called up to active duty

user41796

6:47 PM

Slow moving, opportunity rich target. No risk in his world at all...

Ampt

@GlenH7 No, it was about a guy in EOD who did like a crazy amount of tours because after the constant stress of being blown up, nothing in the civilian world meant anything to him anymore

It was a pretty interesting movie all in all

user41796

I can see some people getting addicted to that

user41796

adjustment can be a real b*tch for veterans coming back

Ampt

for real

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt yes, they couldn't find a good irish whiskey, so they started playing with explosives.

@Ampt my wife's pop did 4 tours for that reason; Apocalypse Now summed it up in their first scene perfectly. She said when he came back he just volunteered as quick as he could to get the hell back.

user114359

6:52 PM

@Ampt back in basic training we had an EOD guy speak to us about switching to his career field (certain careers you cannot sign up for ahead of time, that was one of them along with special operations). I imagined retiring missing three fingers and eight teeth and opted not to.

Lightness Races in Orbit

Just saw someone (native speaker) write "My the only one who <x>?" on Facebook.
#PUNCHINFACEOVERINTERNET

I mean.... how the hell does that happen??!?!!??!

WHO TAUGHT YOU THE LANGUAGE

asudiygfaksdfa

psr

It should be "My, the only one who <x>!"

Lightness Races in Orbit

it should be "you're not helping, psr, so shut up and pour me a drink"

user41796

Everything but "pour me a drink[, please]" is unnecessary

Lightness Races in Orbit

I like how you added "please" to my despotic command

user41796

6:57 PM

I've found that saying "please" works wonders when getting a drink poured for you

Lightness Races in Orbit

When you're a despot it's actually self-defeating to say please

People start to get strange ideas, such as having a choice

So

user41796

@LightnessRacesinOrbit clearly you're not despotic enough

user41796

saying please is a pleasantry to let them pretend that they have a choice, but the cold, hard reality is they know d*mn well what will happen if they actually think they have a choice.

user41796

Gotta take the twistedness to the next level, amirite?

Lightness Races in Orbit

damn...

I'd forgotten how much SE mods think this stuff through...

user41796

7:01 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have about 5 responses continuing this line of joking and making references to a certain room that shall not be named. And I'm self-censoring all of them as they'd sound really bad out of context....

Ampt

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Remember, Mods ⊂ Dictators!

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt were you going for element of?

Ampt

@JimmyHoffa that's subset actually :)

Jimmy Hoffa

TIL..

enderland

lol

Ampt

7:04 PM

He's laughing at us! MOD ABUSE

Jimmy Hoffa

@Ampt he's insaulting my first commendment rights!!

Ampt

@JimmyHoffa I'm sorry, I thought this was AMERICA!

user41796

7:30 PM

@Ampt Since he's a mod, his first amendment rights are more important than yours. So your complaining about mod abuse is actually infringing upon his rights. You've got this all backwards, see?

Ampt

@GlenH7 #MODABUSE!!!!!

user41796

And now you're infringing upon my rights.

Ampt

I fight for the users!

The Blues will never take me alive!

Telastyn

that is the idea I think.

user41796

I'm trying to come up with a metaphor about socks and washing machines, and I'm regrettably failing at it. <sighs>

Ampt

7:34 PM

@GlenH7 Ha! Bested by your own sock puppet!

"You know, you wouldn't be the first sock to disappear in the washing machine."

user41796

@Ampt Surprisingly easy as of late

psr

On SE mods are #1. So your amendment rights are given by : AmendmentNumber mod 1

Lightness Races in Orbit

good one

@GlenH7 heh

@Ampt It's not.

wait, is one of you a sock of another of you?

psr

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Running joke that Ampt is a sock (avatar is reference to it). Not true. Probably.

Ampt

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, I'm Glen's Sock. He's quite thoroughly insane.

Lightness Races in Orbit

7:44 PM

@psr I see

is Ampt's handler a real developer or also an imposter?

or did I just put my foot in it

(haha)

user41796

@Ampt No, you're MichaelT's sock this week.

user41796

@LightnessRacesinOrbit define "real developer"

Lightness Races in Orbit

smells a bit

Ampt

Oct 16 '13 at 20:40, by GlenH7

I wonder if I could create a sock puppet and get it to 3k before @Sparticus clears 3k....

Lightness Races in Orbit

@GlenH7 doesn't work for Epic

Ampt

7:46 PM

I think that's what started it all

Lightness Races in Orbit

> Sparticus

wow that's annoying

psr

@LightnessRacesinOrbit that he's MichaelT's sock or "real developer"s?

Ampt

hehe

Lightness Races in Orbit

the sock itself

user41796

@Ampt I think you're right. That's probably the comment that kicked off that particular meme

Ampt

7:48 PM

God I've been here way too long haha

enderland

> I want to be the very best
Like no one ever was
To dodge mods is my real test
To upvote is my cause

I will travel across the web
Searching far and wide
Each Stack Exchange to understand
The rep that's inside

It's you and me
I know it's my destiny
Web proxies, oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must upvote
Sock puppets! (gotta vote em all)
a heart so fake
Our proxies will pull us through

whatsisname

wut

Ampt

@enderland s/vote all/counter vote/

enderland

@whatsisname I guess one way to find out all the lurkers is to post crazy things ;)

user15026

Boss bought us all pizza because this week has been kinda stupid. :D

2

user55340

8:01 PM

🇨🇦🍕😀?

whatsisname

pizza sounds good

user55340

@whatsisname it tastes better in most cases.

user55340

Note: most cases. Japanese pizza often only sounds better given my America palette.

user55340

If anyone tries this on you, the best reply is a deadpan "Oh yeah, that's a common potato chip flavor in Canada."

user55340

(Ps: check mouse over)

Ampt

8:05 PM

@AshleyNunn dude, our week over here has been stupid too

no pizza though :(

enderland

@MichaelT except crap takeout pizza

reminds me I want to make homemade pizza

user41796

@JimmyHoffa - I'm dying from laughing

user41796

stupid things like that can trip you up so badly

user55340

@Ampt here is a pizza for you:

user55340

Jimmy Hoffa

8:09 PM

@GlenH7 the funny thing is, they at least documented it in their example-snippet correctly, because of course they did. Otherwise I would have been utterly screwed.

Ixrec

var s_ADOBE_SPELLING_OF_UPDATE = "udpate":

enderland

wat

user41796

@JimmyHoffa And then you spend hours checking errata, because the documentation has to have a typo in it. No way that would be right...

user55340

> Of course, no intro to Japanese pizza would be complete without mention of the Squid Ink Pizza. In these pizzas (and pastas) the tomato sauce is replaced with a black-as-sin squid ink sauce. To be honest, squid ink sauce doesn't taste all that bad but tomato sauce is ten times better. Plus squid ink looks terrible & stains your mouth black, so I have never found a reason to eat more than a spoonful of the stuff.

user55340

Lightness Races in Orbit

8:12 PM

ew

user41796

@MichaelT Is that "squid ink sauce" made with real squid ink?!

Lightness Races in Orbit

@Ampt Could be worse. I first stepped foot in the Lounge in 2011.

enderland

stuff like that makes me wonder who got the idea in the first place

user55340

@GlenH7 yes.

user55340

chachich.com/mdchachi/jpizza.html

user41796

8:13 PM

> introducing the world to Japanese pizza which, in some guises, is truly an abomination for mankind

Lightness Races in Orbit

> But it doesn't work the way I would like. Could you please help me? Thanks a lot

sick of this shit tbh

enderland

no one here is going to pretend to understand why people like to answer on SO so much given the volume of those questions

user55340

Whoo! Stellar question badge on meta... 100 favs

user41796

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Zen moderation - down vote; VTC; move on....

user55340

The silver badge is 25... And only two people have that.

Robert Harvey

8:21 PM

programmers.stackexchange.com/revisions/304207/1

> Written under the freedom of speech constitutional right

[sigh]

Lightness Races in Orbit

lol

user55340

Two more speedy votes and we can ~~censor~~ delete that post.

Lightness Races in Orbit

> We have many competing programming languages that have built millions of applications and systems leaving programmers in the ocean of difficulties to coordinate between these mismatched situations using their own thoughts. These thoughts will try to form up many similar libraries, engines, systems or frameworks.

Almost poetry

I propose we rename the site to "Ocean of Difficulties"

Ixrec

nah, that could apply to any SE

user41796

@MichaelT one

user55340

8:25 PM

Duplicate proposal- the workplace

Ampt

> Image not found

just like my pizzza

Lightness Races in Orbit

> Like, Java for Internet, Python for scientific, R for statistical, C for low level programming, JavaScript for browser based app, and congratulation we made JavaScript libraries that will make you suffer to do what C can do in one line of code

Losing it a bit here

Robert Harvey

Best way to stifle your "freedom of speech" on Stack Exchange: claim that you have it.

Lightness Races in Orbit

> it easy to standardize one Network protocol that all programming languages relay on

Never had a job then

> why it is difficult to standardize one programming language that one can depend one?

Ah, finally! A decent question. Too late though.

Robert Harvey

The great thing about standards is that there are so many of them.

Lightness Races in Orbit

8:26 PM

insert xkcd link here

Ixrec

what can C do in one line that JS can't? if anything it's the other way around because JS has higher-order functions plus function literals and object literals

Lightness Races in Orbit

1 min ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit

Losing it a bit here

user41796

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

►

user41796

@Ixrec does JS have bitwise operations?

Ixrec

oddly enough, yes it does

if durron was here he would immediately point out that they involve casting doubles to ints to do the bitwise ops and then the result is cast back to a double, so it's a bit weird to say the least, but they do work

Lightness Races in Orbit

8:29 PM

@GlenH7 Grand Nagus Zek and Saul Berenson. Ace.

Ixrec

in fact a few of our internal JS libraries have "bitfields" in the APIs that rely on you bitwise-ORing some flags together to make one parameter, just like you'd do in C

user41796

I'd quibble about the one line of code part, but I'm just going to call this yet another reason why JS should die.

Lightness Races in Orbit

JS shouldn't die

though I can't fathom how I ever got anything done before jQuery came along

Ixrec

I am glad I didn't get into this before ES5

Ampt

@RobertHarvey hahaha did they actually put that in there?

Ixrec

8:32 PM

on the plus side, if WebAssembly ever succeeds, all the people knee-jerk hating on JS can finally just pick another language and move on

Robert Harvey

@Ampt They did.

Using H2, no less.

Ampt

@RobertHarvey I just get a straight up 404 on that

not even deleted

ratchet freak

constitutional freedoms have no power on a privately owned website (that may or may not be owned by an american) unless the owner says so...

user41796

@Ampt question itself was deleted, so you can't see the revisions anymore

Ixrec

I can still see the revisions

ratchet freak

8:42 PM

@Ixrec you can if you have more than 10k rep on progs

Jimmy Hoffa

@GlenH7 it's so much less available than tomato sauce..for what possible...huh

user41796

@JimmyHoffa I'm kinda glad I didn't have pizza for lunch today

user114359

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A: The versatile integer printer

8 languages, 21 bytes / 8^3 = 0.041... Works in Retina, Labyrinth, Brian & Chuck, Hexagony, GolfScript, Fission, Foo and Prelude. (Yay, now I've got all of my languages in there.) 5}>?3 _8>@!(.6'L"7") The file has to end with a linefeed character. The explanations are currently only stubs to...

user114359

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

Lightness Races in Orbit

30 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit

insert xkcd link here

you're late

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Q: PHP, JAVA, Python, C#

What are the key differences between programming styles of these languages in developing web applications. What kind of features in each language make attractiveness over web application development?

java c# php python-3.x

for goodness's sake

You provided your code as a photograph of your computer monitor with source code displayed in your IDE? Well, you got me, that's a new one. — Lightness Races in Orbit 5 secs ago

apparently the Lounge is still a warzone (according to my sources on the inside)

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