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12:00 AM

First, a developer needs to have permission to install new software. That either needs to be enabled in Windows, or done in /home on Linux, or we need to be able to escalate (sudo) when necessary.

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Second, we often need at least read access to system logs and other protected objects

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Not having full admin certainly makes damage control easier if a virus gets in, but there has to be a compromise

@Snowman I just install software into my home directory. Works fine on Linux and Windows. Never understood why people want to install for all users by default.

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@Brandin The problem is with the application developers, not the OS. Modern Windows OSes (Vista+) work fine with per-user apps. Linux has always worked fine. But Linux applications tend to be more modular and not hard-code things. There are a ton of poorly-written Windows programs out there that do not behave correctly unless they are installed in %PROGRAMFILES% as Administrator.

@MichaelT iduno... at $600 initial investment; time to recoup investment + cost of time spent during that time in the arduous process of cleaning and constructuring next batch, add waiting for it... recoup time would be significant when compared to the alternative of stopping at the liquor store..

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12:06 AM

@JimmyHoffa I approve of whiskey

@Snowman I'm glad you have decided common sense is a good thing? Didn't know you lacked it, but good on ya for randomly finding it.

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@JimmyHoffa I have it and use it. I am simply agreeing with you.

@Snowman whiskey agrees with me, what do I care about you!? You don't tell me what to do!

@Snowman enjoying a glass of good common sense right now?

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@JimmyHoffa I could tell you want to do. Go drink more whiskey!

@Snowman already on it; just finished getting all my kids stuff together for the evening and have a glass of the irish in front of me now.

Apparently Irish whiskey is triple distilled and scottish is only distilled twice. Wonder if that's why it's a bit smoother and lighter in flavor.

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12:12 AM

@JimmyHoffa I prefer Tennessee whiskey :-P

@Snowman I rather like Jack m'self; gentalmens or better preferably, but not the kentucky...bleh.

12:24 AM

@Snowman have you had Jack Single Barrel?

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@Snowman masterofmalt.com/blend-your-own-whisky

my sis got me a bottle for xmas when I was 21; that was what started me on Whiskey. Only cared for beer before that.

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@JimmyHoffa But its a beer keurig! Actually though, I agree with you.

@MichaelT if I could get coffee in a 6 pack down the street - and it would be just as good throughout the week as if I made it right when I drank it - I'd probably can the keurig too.

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12:28 AM

@MichaelT I have no idea what that is about

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funraniumlabs.com

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Black blood of the earth...

@MichaelT monkey crapped coffee and you don't care?

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a vacuum extraction process of the grounds... its described "tastes like coffee smells"

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Very highly concentrated

12:29 AM

@MichaelT I've heard of such; but never seen any way of getting my hands on it

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@JimmyHoffa shop.funraniumlabs.com

@MichaelT I can't imagine that being an acceptable link for me to click. I'm just going to quietly pretend I didn't see it.

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> BBotE Sampler: Ten 50ml Test Tubes
$50.00

@MichaelT are you trying to kill me? Even coffee has an LD-50, and that guy appears to be putting it within my reach.

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@JimmyHoffa just your budget.

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12:33 AM

funraniumlabs.com/the-black-blood-of-the-earth

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> At some point, all of us start wondering how much coffee we can drink before our hearts explode. This typically happens when we are up, very late, in college with either the panic of a final the next day or have nothing particularly better to do than try to achieve acute caffiene poisoning. What do you mean you haven’t done this? Liar. You’re letting yourself down and making Baby Jesus (ten time running All American Most Valuable Jesus) cry.

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> INITIAL HUMAN TRIALS

The results of one pass, undiluted, of Batch 3 were remarkable:

Subject 1 (Not A Whale Biologist) showed wakefulness but no other untoward effects. He declared the coffee to be “tasty”.

Subject 2 (Astrophysicist II, Electric Boogaloo) who consumed Batch 3, was similarly unphased.

Subject 3 (The World) had several sips of Batch 3 prior to breakfast with two cups of Baker’s Square coffee and followed it with the remainder of the Batch 3 mug upon return. She entered a state of hyperactivity requiring “walkies” outside, rapid speech, and much bouncing from one foot to…

@MichaelT steam sale for physics based siege-weapons-engine game besiege: $5.50... @Ampt too

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@Snowman btw, did you see that USFS article on the different types of wood for barrels and the effects on flavor?

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Oak Aging and Wine

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12:42 AM

... and then consider: masterofmalt.com/barrel/american-white-oak-barrel/…

Oh yes, this game is indeed going to waste a significant amount of my time.. it's like a minecraft meets physics engine meets battle bots game

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@JimmyHoffa If you got some BBotE, you could stay up all night playing it.

Plus BBotE is pretty much a physics based siege-weapons-engine game for your body.

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@psr actually... caffeine has been found to help the body deal with chronic stress.

no no, this reminds me of the incredible machine, only you put things together in 3d.

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12:45 AM

> "Well, we used to say three cups or more was kind of the limit. But, this study found that even up to five cups a day was actually protective, or reduced mortality."

"What I would tell people is...usually you'll find the limit that works best for you. And, usually about two to three cups is what most people do. But, as far as we know now, there's probably no absolute maximum."

Previous research has also pointed to a decreased risk of stroke associated with coffee consumption. And, there's some evidence that a coffee habit cuts the risk of Type 2 diabetes, as well.

initial siege weapon destroying buildings:

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now to figure out how to make it steer..

A 365 day suspension to anyone who I find out opposes hats.

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1:10 AM

How software is made (SMBC comic)

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@JimmyHoffa new background for you

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1:32 AM

@MichaelT perfect timing because I'm supposed to go back into emacs (in spaaace!) tomorrow to start on some new web UI

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1:50 AM

@RobertHarvey mehehe

> I want to offer backing up to a cloud. It would be fine to do for free, but server space costs money and I am not Mother Teresa.

@MichaelT lol

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2:06 AM

@MichaelT ahahahaa

2:33 AM

making a catapult in that game is harder than it appears..

just got one finished and working, but it was tricky

the thing wants to tear itself apart, needs tons of bracing

plausibly because it's large and overdone

@GlenH7 you should have a shot at this as a real engineer... this is silly fun

3:18 AM

this game is going to eat my time, for $5.50 totally worth it..

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@JimmyHoffa I don't remember. I had either Single Barrel or Gentleman Jack and didn't like it, and haven't tried the other. I don't remember.

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@MichaelT no, I'll check it out.

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@MichaelT ...and that's why daddy stays at home all day drinking daddy juice!

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3:38 AM

5

Q: When I call a person doctor

If I call a person doctor, instead of Doctor XXX, will this person assumes that I forget his name? When I talk with another person, I said:" I wish to study in doctor's lab." At that time, the doctor is just next to me.

oh my

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And if you use "Doc", people will think you're Bugs Bunny. — JAB 12 hours ago

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Q: What if anything can you use as a 64-bit threading model in GCC (C++) in Windows, in relation to what Visual Studio offers?

Here's the whole question I wanted to ask: What is the relationship between the most recent/fastest/most advanced threading system for Windows you might find in Microsoft's Visual Studio C++ and the various things you would use for threading in Windows in GCC and other compilers? Today I instal...

c++ multithreading visual-studio c++11 gcc

this is a pretty good read too

and by good I mean bad

night

user114359

4:08 AM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit that is the definition of "too broad" also "not about fixing code"

Stack Overflow was never about fixing code. I don't know how it got that way. Probably because "What have you tried?"

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you're right, fixing code is definitely a part of it but it doesn't have to be "broken" necessarily. Just incomplete, because SO is not CR.

4:43 AM

I made a catapult that drops the catapult after launching and becomes a roving cannon ship

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5:05 AM

@JimmyHoffa yo dawg I heard you like catapults so I made a catapult on your catapult so you can catapult while you're catapulting.

duplicate of How big does my project need to be for me to unit test it? — gnat 13 mins ago

^^^ why am I not surprised

ugh that stupid game just ate my whole night.

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@JimmyHoffa could be worse, you could have been christmas shopping with my wife like I was

5:24 AM

@Snowman I don't even like christmas shopping with my own wife more less someone elses..yeck.

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@JimmyHoffa do you like picking out purses?

6:47 AM

in Programmers CV-Please, Nov 28 at 0:31, by gnat

delete-votes-pls - http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/303514/everything-i-write-turns-i‌nto-a-mess-tempting-me-to-start-over This rant entertained HNQ lemmings until it was closed. Mission accomplished, time to say goodbye

Why not use option 1 for most of your tests, and option 2 only for the tests that have the ctx data structure problem? Your question seems to imply that you would use only one approach. — Robert Harvey 20 mins ago

This is what happens when people get obsessed with the "right" way of doing things, instead of thinking for themselves and solving problems.

2 hours later…

9:17 AM

This question fits more with this site — asymmetric 20 secs ago

1 hour later…

10:20 AM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 2 mins ago, by Pandya

If one want to learn programming language, then SE has any site? Is programmers.SE on-topic?

Lightness Races in Orbit

10:34 AM

oh, you're the same person

please don't crosspost FFS

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 43 secs ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit

@Pandya No Q&A site is for "learning programming language". The Stack Exchange sites are for specific questions and answers, not broad discussion or personal tutoring. You should purchase a good, well-reviewed book for the language you wish to learn, or consider enrolling in a course at a proper educational institution.

@RobertHarvey it's the Do It Right Pattern

1 hour later…

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11:55 AM

Come to Lounge C++ — Martin James 19 hours ago

lol

1 hour later…

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1:12 PM

@Lightness Races in Orbit Open your eyes and watch where do I use the word fly, you stupid. If you know the answer you can tell me in theory whether it is more efficient. Since you didn't say, you don't know. So, why are you still here farting? — Jason 8 mins ago

lol

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Q: How to ask "how to understand some code" questions

Often we find questions along the lines of Help me understand this C program #include<stdio.h> main() { printf("Hello World"); } Well, that one may be a bit simplified - but its not an uncommon form for a question that is asked here. How should one prepare and ask a "what does this c...

discussion closed-questions asking-questions

Has anyone here ever used Neo4j before?

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No.

Let's see whether I want to give it a try.

> Witness Bottom-Line Impact
>
> Leverage your big data relationships with graph technology that delivers enterprise-level insights all in real time.

No.

Why not?

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Haven't ever had a problem to be solved by it that I couldn't do in a rdbms.

1:21 PM

I think that technically, they are interchangable.

But it's just a different method of modeling and expressing a solution.

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@ThomasOwens Did you read my quote

@MichaelT Same so far

I'm open to looking into some NoSQL gubbins but not in a hurry

@Pandya SE is a great platform for answering questions you have that are about a very specific situation that applies to a great many people. Problems typically fit this; but needing to learn a programming language isn't a problem, and learning is extremely personal overall so what's right for you would have very little impact on a greater audience; this is why learning questions really don't work on SE. However, I would encourage you to start picking something up and use SE when you're stuck

on technical problems etc

Happy Coffee Day

@LightnessRacesinOrbit you should play with some - many of them are infinitely simpler to stand up and start playing with than RDBMS. That's one of the reasons they've gained such adoption among greener people who lack the RDBMS background - given the 2, somebody with no RDBMS experience will far more easily get started and have something working with Mongo, Couch, Berkeley, etc

makes them easy to play with just to get an idea what they're about

that said, graph databases are a different breed from what I've seen - I really do love modeling in graphs but the times I've looked at using graph db's like Neo4J I had trouble making heads or tails of their purpose / use case, and getting them started didn't look straight forward at all

such that I recall, they were more like in-memory libraries where you modeled your data with inheritance and other shit from their base classes which all sounded way the hell more intrusive into my code than I would want a persistence or query system to be

@ThomasOwens --^

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2:14 PM

@JimmyHoffa ew

though I can sort of see why that'd be attractive

who wants a class full of SQL statements

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm speaking just of Neo4J there, other NoSQL stuff I've played with have been very pleasant. Graph databases overall though are an inherently radically different concept than other types of NoSQL models

document stores are really useful things, completely worth learning to understand where they fit vs. RDBMS

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I don't know much about them, I concede, but don't you have to forfeit the notion of a fixed data schema?

you end up just dumping a load of JSON in?

guess I'm only thinking about "Document store" there?

@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's a "document" store -> Documents come with various schemas, which makes them difficult and tricky to persist and operate on in RDBMS

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> But they are different: every record in a table has the same sequence of fields, while documents in a collection may have fields that are completely different.

meh feck that

RDB ftw

@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's for a totally different purpose though. I've worked on multiple systems where the RDBMS system we had modeled some table somewhere to hold just blob data or JSON data etc because it was for some 3rd party that wanted to put whatever they wanted and it would change frequently what type of data they wanted in there etc. A document store is great for those folk.

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2:21 PM

sure

Think about a user's preferences on a website: Which column/order sorting is done on various pages. Defaults to {} but as they use the site more it builds up a set of customizations to the various pages

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nothing stopping you storing JSON in a table

It's not about replacing RDBMS, it's about recognizing the things RDBMS may not do as well as other persistence models, which is why it's good to play with the other persistence models

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so I don't see the advantage

@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, but what do you gain from it then? The RDBMS can do nothing with that JSON data - a document store will have actual functionality available to it for working with it's documents

you can't execute mathematical operations on nested properties of a document in an RDBMS

a document store has facilities for that

Want to find out what the most commonly sorted columns are on a given page?

etc

RDBMS is a huge monster technology which can do anything and everything, but for certain little scenarios, other technologies may come in more handy- I say that with more years experience working in MSSQL than any other technology I've used... SQL 98 was a mess.

I am utterly competent in MSSQL, but I would prefer a document store for certain things. I would prefer a key-value store for certain things. I don't particularly give a crap for graph stores such that I've seen so far... other NoSQL models I can't particularly speak to.

2:27 PM

@JimmyHoffa Why don't you care so much for graph stores?

It seems like they would be a natural for a social network.

Or any kind of network.

@ThomasOwens I just haven't seen one that appeared useful. I love modeling data in graphs, but typically in-memory works fine and for persistence they can be stored in myriad technologies.

Find me a graph store that is as easy to work with as other data providers, one that doesn't dictate how I can and can't construct my own object model etc; that was the troubles I saw in the graph stores I had looked at.

alternatively; it's Friday. So, all communication is to be done through cat meme's and in scotch references from here as I have reached my Friday quota already for rational reasoned thought just above this. So, Scotch?

@JimmyHoffa I was thinking about consuming the SE data dumps...the complete, all site ones...and throwing it into a graph database. I've wanted to do different analysis on users and such, but I think some of it may come for free in a graph structure. Ultimately, I want to see if sites can be clustered based on users. If sites, questions, answers, comments, users, and such are nodes, then links will be edges.

The relations could be all kinds of things - through users or perhaps through actual links in the contents of text. I tend to think in tuples a lot (x {verb} y).

@ThomasOwens do it up; I am seriously interested in your results trying to work with a graph system like Neo4J

I may start this weekend.

If it looks promising, I have 2 weeks off at the end of the year.

I do like the ideas in the semantic web. Graph databases seem to be like RDF.

@ThomasOwens I'm right there with you on this stuff - graphs play into purity and functional idioms beautifully. The OO approaches to them I saw in graph stores however disabused me of the currently available ones. AcidState would be the only graph store I think I'd touch

2:39 PM

@JimmyHoffa I spent all of 5 minutes looking at Neo4j so far, though. So you may be right.

@ThomasOwens go play with Prolog, and then look at Neo4J and it's so rigidly conventions-based as I recall.. Prolog has the right of it, create relations and hell to everything else. Voila- graph.

spring.io/guides/gs/accessing-data-neo4j

@JimmyHoffa We used Prolog for about 2 weeks in a course back in school. It hurt my mind.

Maybe I should look at jLog or Jtrolog.

@ThomasOwens it's great! You Has(John, Apple) gives you a directed Has relationship between John and Apple then you can Has(John, Mouth) and you can construct constraints CanEat(X, Y) :- Has(X, Y), Has(X, Mouth)

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@ThomasOwens - I think Robert dropped a link in here for a free O'Reilly book on neo4j a while back. Did you grab that book then?

@GlenH7 No. I'm not sure I even saw it. I usually grab free things.

2:53 PM

so CanEat(John, Apple) -> Hell yeah! CanEat(Apple, John) No way! CanEat(John, @ThomasOwens) No sir!

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@ThomasOwens If you'd like, look up my email on the site and drop me a note. I'll forward you the link that I have.

@GlenH7 Will do after work / tonight.

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The book is / was free and there weren't any restrictions stated regarding sharing the book as well, IIRC

It's hard to do since I'd use my work computer to look at your profile and I'd need to use my phone to email since gmail is now blocked (even with HTTPS) at work.

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Editing to make it easy to purge: Hmm, let's try this link:

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2:55 PM

@ThomasOwens - see if you can pull the book from the link in the history

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:25909603 I still can't get that dang bookmarklet to work in Firefox

@enderland I think that's a mod thing

is it?

@GlenH7 Do you know approximately when it was?

because of your privileges on deleted messages

2:57 PM

that's really weird

Chat search is terribad.

@Ampt can you edit your deleted messages?

@enderland Nah, makes sense: Mods can purge deleted messages, and edit other people's messages and do all kinds of stuff

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@ThomasOwens Go into this history

when I try, I get a bar at the top of my screen dropping down says "That message has been deleted."

Looks like it may work...

It's loading.

2:58 PM

ooooh, interesting. So that functionality is somehow tied to the mod view, not the "edit message" view...

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sorry for the reping, wanted to fix it to actually go to the history

@enderland it's not a view - it's an authorization (Know the difference between authorization and authentication! I demand this of all!! So frustrating when people don't!)

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@JimmyHoffa duh. it's as simple as scotch.

@GlenH7 you insult scotch!?!

Scotch is hard. Let's go...beering?

3:03 PM

@ThomasOwens basically the approach many take. Scotch aint easy..

Hi

well everyone

guess I have repositories which will pass domain objects mapped from DB objects

now if my service layer wants different objects, what would people normally do

just pass domain objects as it is to client (JS) in this case and let them do the business logic

or create another layer (business layer) which will map database objects to service objects

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@JimmyHoffa no but you probably have other data in your system that can make use of relations. customised sort order? that's just one piece of data. it's not your whole database.

@JimmyHoffa orly

@LightnessRacesinOrbit exactly! A document store shouldn't be your whole database. It should realistically be a tiny tool you use for specific things; RDBMS is the solution to the majority of data concerns people have.

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anyway yeah I'm utterly competent at MySQL but don't know much about this new-fangled stuff

the biggest thing people really need to recognize - especially the green folk who mess this up constantly - is when you've got transactional data; this data absolutely must live in an RDBMS, and that data is really the majority of the data you deal with or care about in most applications.

3:15 PM

@JimmyHoffa use excel. or sharepoint!!!11

flagged as offensive

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@JimmyHoffa ok gdgd

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@JimmyHoffa This is so very true

@JimmyHoffa err no, why?

Nothing like being thrown under the bus by your dev leeeeeeeeead

someone's gotta be the fall boy

It's not that bad

3:21 PM

@JimmyHoffa heheh. I learned that on my first meaningful project, we changed to using a database after a few months

but I worked on a problem for 8 hours yesterday because one of the things we're trying to do is make the code cleaner

and she just says that I could have used the old static util class from the previous project to solve the problem

like... really?

And this was after she turned down some of my solutions because they werent clean enough

@enderland I am here to help with SharePoint if anyone needs

@PleaseTeach I like to pretend SharePoint doesn't exist :)

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Share point is the devil's cms. The road to share point starts with good intentions.

@PleaseTeach Can you help make it go away?

3:26 PM

@ThomasOwens in my life yes ? used to work on it heavily - wasted 2 years on it, now focusing on .Net only

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@Ampt This goes back to a conversation we had a few weeks ago. Looks like you've found the limits of what she's comfortable with in changing up the code.

Wish I had spent this time on .Net instead... but I was fresh out of Uni and no mentor at all -- neihter could afford it

always have been interested in application design

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hey it isnot duplicate wtf.. — Phoenix 14 mins ago

poignant

why can not pass an array and what the hack is the pointer..? — Phoenix 4 mins ago

lol

@LightnessRacesinOrbit why you have a pp of a girl ?

Gah. I'm going back into my philosophical spiral on what exactly software architecture is, what software design is, lines between system and software architecture | design.

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3:31 PM

@PleaseTeach Why not?

@ThomasOwens have any concrete question, happy to help ?

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Leaves are pretty. Random geometric shapes are pretty. Portraits can be {pretty | handsome}

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It's what the individual likes

@PleaseTeach No. I have answers, though.

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@PleaseTeach Are female profile pictures disallowed?

3:32 PM

@ThomasOwens here u go then

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Q: Where this code will go in logic?

I have my domain classes (pseudo code below), Class User { string Name {get; set;} string Number {get; set;} .. other attributes Membership[] Memberships } and Membership class, Class Membership { int Id {get; set;} string Status {get; set;} datetime startDate {ge...

application-design

you asked for it :P

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@LightnessRacesinOrbit That would probably upset quite a few SE users if true...

@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol no, not in that sense

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@PleaseTeach Then why?

@GlenH7 Yes, it would.

@LightnessRacesinOrbit just don't understand why people put others pictures on SO, but nothing serious though

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My choice was for a nice, high contrast colorful image from a photo I took.

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3:33 PM

@PleaseTeach And yours is a true likeness?

@PleaseTeach I don't understand your question.

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@PleaseTeach You did not originally ask me why I had a photo of someone else as my profile picture. You asked why I had a photo of "a girl" as my profile picture. Very different.

@ThomasOwens I am confused with the concept of business logic, how they relate to domain classes

@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, i think i need to think before writing something

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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Mine is

@PleaseTeach Business logic is just logic. It's a dumb name.

3:35 PM

@ThomasOwens is it something you apply on objects, or is it something that maps objects based on rules

There are a lot of ways to handle your question. You need to get a user's active memberships? Maybe User should have a List<Membership> getActiveMemberships() method?

@ThomasOwens reminds of that one question. lol

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It is logic to implement the stuff needed for the business domain. Compare to logic in frameworks.

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@PleaseTeach Think before thinking something :)

what is "EF? "

3:36 PM

Or maybe you should have a class that provides filters to memberships.

@enderland Entity Framework.

ah

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@PleaseTeach To echo Lightness' comments - Yes, please re-think what you're trying to ask before asking. If it fails the "what does it matter?" test, then there's a good chance it doesn't need to be asked.

@PleaseTeach I don't feel like I have enough context for your question to know what you are asking, are you asking what part of your code should filter the memberships?

@enderland Yes, I believe so.

@enderland I think my examples always confuse my main point, let me rephrase my question

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3:40 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit - apropos of nothing, has anyone ever donated to you through the links in your profile?

@GlenH7 I asked this before. He said yes. I added links to my profile. No one has donated to me. :( But it's OK. It's not like I need more money.

Or more stuff.

you could donate to yourself

At least, I think he said yes. I know that someone has mentioned that they got donations by including links in their profile.

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That's cool. Just in case I need to supplement my income...

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@GlenH7 Kinda

3:43 PM

Honestly, it would mean more to me if someone bought me a book or something from my Amazon wishlist. Although some are kind of expensive. Waking up to find Bananagrams shipped to me would be awesome.

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Kinda but not enough to make it an appreciable amount?

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@ThomasOwens I don't remember that

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, maybe it was someone else.

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@GlenH7 Well I got a car out of it but not the second and third that I led folks to believe

@ThomasOwens I have been asked it from time to time and it wouldn't surprise me if I had been by you .. but chat transcript turns up nothing.

I know I asked in a couple of chat rooms about people having success with PayPal / Amazon links in their profile.

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3:44 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit What type of car?

So maybe it wasn't you.

@enderland the sound I make when I step on my kid's little metal jet-fighter toy in front of him

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May have been in Lounge

@GlenH7 BMW i8

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@GlenH7 hot wheels and matchbox.

amazon.com/Concept-6-volt-Electric-Ride--White/dp/B00QM8IBF0/…

@LightnessRacesinOrbit That one?

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3:45 PM

heh

ooh

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That one looks pretty fun too

It is an i8.

Lightness Races in Orbit

i8u

Why doesn't Amazon sell cars? That would be awesome.

Especially with Prime.

Free two day shipping on a car.

@Ampt welcome to being told that while you're responsible for solving the problem and have done all the work to figure it out; somebody else get's to tell you why you're doing it all wrong without knowing 'tf. In summation, Scotch.

Lightness Races in Orbit

3:48 PM

> get's

user55340

@ThomasOwens car dealerships are regulated.

@MichaelT Is that why Tesla has had problems in some areas?

user55340

Yep.

user114359

@ThomasOwens Tesla is flat out illegal in some areas

I had to delete my question

3:48 PM

@PleaseTeach also, don't just delete it if you can edit

user114359

Can't have a free market, new players who are more efficient might disrupt the hegemony.

user114359

Same thing happening to Uber and Lyft in some areas

@MichaelT that's a bit of a strong term for organizations that willfully misrepresent the paperwork they ask people to sign...

user114359

cabbies pay $100k+ for their medallions, sometimes as much as $900k. Can't have us regular people doing the same thing.

@enderland I need more time to think how can I express what I want to know, it's really hard to describe without examples

3:49 PM

ahhh

@PleaseTeach That's not an uncommon problem. Although usually when I'm coming up with examples, I stumble across a solution. Or solutions.

@ThomasOwens That's what am exactly afraid of lol

i don't want solution, I want best solution

@PleaseTeach Although vetting your solution may be a valuable question to ask, too.

In fact, it may be a better question. Scope your problem, present your solution, and act like a design review.

user55340

Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you got enough donations to buy an i8 I'll eat my own shoe :P

3:54 PM

repository and UOW to data access, what's to business layer ?

Which is kind of hard for a sock being smaller than the shoe and all

user55340

It can be more difficult to later fix a perfect solution than a good one.

user55340

We are paid to write code that ships. Not perfect code.

user41796

@Ampt You'll note that the actual form factor wasn't mentioned

@GlenH7 Which is why I'm sure it was the one I linked to.

user41796

3:57 PM

@ThomasOwens Or the matchbox version

user41796

Although the RC version looks really cool

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Q: What physics are involved in playing video games. (ex. like electromagnetic)

I always wondered what physics are involved in playing games. And I wondered how they work.

there's some free flags

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