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Seth

00:03

If I add a bounty on an old question because it's outdated and no one adds another answer, the bounty won't automatically go to the most upvoted old answer will it?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

no. your bounty won't magically be awarded if that's what you're asking

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Okay good.

Okay done.

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Q: How do I configure a joystick or gamepad?

I recently recieved a gamepad (a joystick, like a PS2 controller) from a friend. It's a Logitech Rumblepad 2. How would I configure this in Ubuntu? I would like to use a GUI utility. I tried jstest-gui, but it shows my accelerometer :D!

Seth

00:28

Do we have a mod around? @jrg?

@rm-rf What calls you here? (I'm hoping it's not a flag :/ )

rm -rf

@Seth Nope, no flags. Just helpin' you guys out with the spam

I can't delete, but I keep flagging them as spam. Takes 6 to nuke it w/o a mod.

Seth

@rm-rf Okay thanks! I once got auto banned because I mentioned spam..

@rm-rf Right. And thank you. I've never seen it go this fast without a mod.

rm -rf

@Seth Oh yeah... someone flagged your chat messages linking to the spam yesterday, asking that they also be removed. I guess other users must've agreed innocently, thus locking you out.

Seth

@rm-rf Yeah.. It was something like that.

rm -rf

Ok, I'll also remove the links above so that it doesn't happen again today

Seth

00:36

A chat mod popped in and unbanned me.

@rm-rf Can you make sure they're all gone first?

Never mind, they are.

rm -rf

@Seth They're long gone...

Seth

Here is some more: askubuntu.com/questions/269330/…

Now, something funny.

YAY @RolandiXor!!!

RolandiXor

This is some tasty spam.

@Seth hi :D

Seth

Another interesting:

@RolandiXor Howdy sharpshooter!

RolandiXor

@Seth I was nuking it

I like to hide :D

Seth

00:42

Oh. Well it's not fun then :(

RolandiXor

You thought it was being taken under by the swamp creatures?

Seth

This doesn't look like it's going to be as bad as last nights..

@RolandiXor I did for a little bit.

RolandiXor

hehe

Seth

You missed a couple:

hanna

1

RolandiXor

Well, I can't say much, but something was being done about it - though I was the one nuking the spammers.

Seth

00:44

bahalina

1

RolandiXor

Thanks!

Seth

np :)

RolandiXor

They can be hard to track - but I'll keep an eye on the new users list.

Seth

Oh BTW: askubuntu.com/questions/32031/…

packpatfan

hello

any mods here?

Seth

00:45

Yes there are @packpatfan

@RolandiXor Is a mod.

RolandiXor

@packpatfan how can I help? :)

Seth

Need a question re-opened?

RolandiXor

Need advice with a wayward child? Having problems with the wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend?

packpatfan

I was wondering how my question is considered off-topic, even though it's about a default Ubuntu question

lol :D

RolandiXor

;)

packpatfan

00:46

This one: askubuntu.com/questions/269192/burn-backtrack-5-to-dvd-rom

RolandiXor

@packpatfan is it about Ubuntu +1?

packpatfan

Ubuntu +1?

Seth

@packpatfan I thought so.

packpatfan

What's Ubuntu +1?

Seth

The main supported version up one.

RolandiXor

00:48

Ubuntu +1 == an unreleased version.

Seth

So 12.10 +1 == 13.04

packpatfan

oh. Nope

I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

RolandiXor

Well, the likely reason you got this problem is because you mentioned Backtrack

IMHO it is on topic, but only because you are trying to burn from Ubuntu.

packpatfan

oh. Oops, well, it happens with any/all ISOs (BTR5, Ubuntu Studio

RolandiXor

I'll reopen it, and leave a comment.

packpatfan

00:49

danke :D

RolandiXor

Now, my bit of advice, is that you use more descriptive titles in the future to avoid closures.

And, you're welcome!

packpatfan

Ok, sorry about that

FMI...does the link work?

RolandiXor

which link?

oh nvm

I see

packpatfan

The link to the image in my comment

ah

RolandiXor

Yes it works

packpatfan

00:53

good. I was wondering because the rest of my blog is Password Protected

RolandiXor

@Seth I think it is possible to calibrate joysticks in KDE

Remind me about it - and I'll do some testing, possibly tomorrow, if I'm not busy with work.

packpatfan

lol, Mods with questions :D

Oh! Nice title Seth. Thanks!

woot woot! My post is #1 in active posts :D (jk...I find it kinda cool)

Seth

@packpatfan lol. I just re did @RolandiXor 's title ;)

RolandiXor

lol the edit system got confused :D

Seth

askubuntu.com/posts/269192/revisions

@RolandiXor Thanks :)

I really want to be able to run commands from joystick buttons...

RolandiXor

00:55

@Seth you're welcome :)!

@Seth that might be possible with Compiz

There might also be a utility for setting up your system to do this using xinput events

Seth

@RolandiXor I know xev didn't see any button presses

RolandiXor

It depends on the joystick and the mode it is in.

Seth

Logitech Attack 3 in my case

RolandiXor

For example I have a rumblepad that can work as a mouse, but only if I put it in a different mode

Gui

@RolandiXor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RolandiXor

01:02

@Gui !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

:DD

:D

Seth

Exclamation point war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Iwin

Gui

Oh you do live!

RolandiXor

Waddup?

@Seth wallhax

Gui

Talk to me on Google :-D

RolandiXor

xD

I kicked @Seth :D

(That was for fun btw)

Seth

01:03

That's what happened.

RolandiXor

haha

@Gui 1 sec

Gui

ok

Seth

Not as scary as an IRC kick... But a ban would be.

RolandiXor

let me fire up thunderbird

@Seth lol yeah :D

Seth

Well that spam didn't last long...

is bored again

Gui

01:24

@Seth

►

Seth

Ugh. Rap.

So, what was the point though?

Gui

I don't know... but you saying you were bored reminded me of it...

Seth

@Gui Oh, OK. lol.

RolandiXor

lol

I gtg guys

Chrome uses too much CPU doing nothing

and I have work to do

Seth

OK see you later @RolandiXor.

Course, soon as he leaves the spam will come back...

Journeyman Geek

01:41

lol

Brendan

@Seth, had another question if you don't mind :)

Seth

@Brendan Go ahead :)

Brendan

@Seth I rebooted and the drive was visible this time! But I can only see folders, not files. Is that normal or irregular for Ubuntu?

Seth

@jokerdino This guy is spamming again: askubuntu.com/a/269341/44179 Except this time he added the word "Linux" to his webpage lol.

@Brendan Could be either..

What kind of files do you not see?

Brendan

Not sure if I've found a definitive pattern yet. For example, went into Program Files > Adobe > Reader 9.0 and there's just nothing in there.

Same deal with iTunes.

Seth

01:46

Hmm.

Lemme look around a sec.

Brendan

@Seth When I tried to get into my friends documents folder, the whole screen kinda went gray for a minute or so...figured it got hung on something bad in the drive

@Seth Would Ubuntu have deleted files? Or would it just not display stuff when it senses trouble?

Seth

@Brendan I won't have deleted anything.

@Brendan Yeah when it goes grey it crashed.

Brendan

(I'm a graphic designer, sorry for the less than technical explanations :P)

Seth

So, try pressing Ctrl+H first.

@Brendan No worries, everyone starts at some time :)

Brendan

@Seth I had a roommate who made me somewhat literate with this stuff :P I assume we're looking for hidden files? If so nothing happened.

Seth

01:49

@Brendan Yes, that was what we were looking for. Okay, so next question: What happened to your friends computer that you need to do this?

I mean, it could be something totally different.

(I'm mainly thinking virus here)

Brendan

I guess she got BSOD'd and Win7 Starter was trying to do system restore and stuff. She didn't want to try that because she didn't want to lose files, so my old roommate said boot up with a USB and poke around. I can try to procure a more detailed explanation.

Seth

@Brendan Okay well that could be the reason you aren't seeing anything.. could be.

Try poking around in other folders

do you see any files?

Brendan

yeah. root has seven files in addition to the folders...autoexec.bat, bootmgr, bootsect.bak, config.sys, hiberfil.sys, and pagefile.sys

Boot folder has files in it...

Seth

@Brendan That doesn't look good. These are on the hard drive right?

Brendan

yes.

Seth

01:55

Yeah.. that doesn't seem too good. Try looking in the documents folder. Right now the point is backing data up.

Brendan

yeah, so I clicked all through Documents and Settings...desktop.ini is the only file I can find. Same deal with the Users folder...nothing.

I'm restarting it now, gonna give Ubuntu another shot at opening it up

Seth

@Brendan Okay good. desktop.ini is a weird file to find in those folders..

jrg

@Seth really, you didn't catch that

ok

you back?

Seth

@jrg No, I had to run right then.

Brendan

@Seth, okay, rebooted and trying to get into documents and settings again...

Seth

02:02

@jrg OK

@Brendan Ok then ;)

jrg

copied?

Seth

Yeah

jrg

K

so now you can get ahold of me if we get another spam thing like that.

need to track down eliah

Seth

Yeah, if ever.

He's here right now.

@EliahKagan @jrg Wants to talk to you.

jrg

yup, we talked in regulators.

Seth

02:10

Well I'll be back latter. Dinner calls.

jrg

ok, cya

FEichinger

04:23

So many people using fancy JS to make stuff load asynchronously and end up having the layout jerk around for half a minute ... Geez.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

05:36

Should this question be updated to "I want someone to fix the ubuntu wiki page for me. HALP." askubuntu.com/questions/269266/…

The Lord of Time

06:08

no.

if they want the wiki fixed they can do it themselves.

after all it IS a wiki

AbrahamVanHelpsing

You see what I meant though.

The Lord of Time

not really.

because unless you're blind, this section of the wiki page is important:

help.ubuntu.com/community/WebKit#Karmic_and_newer

oh wait that's help.ubuntu.com

not the wiki

yeah, that's harder to change.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I haz problem. Okay you fixed it, but now I have a separate problem. Okay you fixed it, but now I have a separate problem. Okay you fixed it, but now I have a separate problem. Okay you fixed it, but now I have a separate problem. Okay finally, built it. By the way that was so not QA format

The Lord of Time

actually, the solution is to tell the OC to actually read the page in detail before just "jumping to installing from source"

because there's a nice apt-get command explaining the dependencies they need for using the PPA

and seriously, there's a PPA, AND it's in the repos.

Why bother building from source?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

also the page lists the install gail dev libraries command...

so it's just someone being a pain

The Lord of Time

06:16

so this traces back to PEBKAC

in which case I'd just leave the question or VTC: Not Constructive it.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I've done a VTC: Not Constructive on it, because the question isn't really constructive as it is.

Alternative could've Too Localized, but meh

@AbrahamVanHelpsing can you add a NARQ relevant comment to askubuntu.com/questions/269390/… ?

i'm kinda stuck on a tablet, and commenting is hard.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I so don't use that userscript

The Lord of Time

then type one.

is tired and is content to just VTC things and leave them uncommented right now

done

i had to hack my way into the code for my tablet before I could get a proforma script running, but...

it works.

guntbert

09:37

Another post repair problem: OP posted his solution in the question but accepted an answer ...

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Q: Ubuntu 12.10 update didn't go well, OS is messed app

I tried to update my Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. The update downloaded the needed files and then started setting up the packages. Suddenly, I saw some weird things on the screen, and then I didn't have any top or left bar. I couldn't close an app, couldn't switch between apps (alt+tab, windows key, an...

12.10 boot upgrade updates

fossfreedom

@guntbert suggest just move the "solution" into the accepted answer.

guntbert

will do, @fossfreedom

@fossfreedom like so? askubuntu.com/questions/269213/…

fossfreedom

easier just to edit both the question and answer - remove from the question and paste into the answer.

guntbert

@fossfreedom, ah you were saying I should make the move not just suggest it

fossfreedom

yes please :)

early in the morning ... trying to gulp down a large cup of tea to wake up.

guntbert

09:53

should be done now - just needs approval

fossfreedom

cheers

guntbert

just for waking up with a smile: funny what people regard as obvious

>> guntbert : well its obviously qml for ubuntu touch using the qt sdk, but thanks, i'll post my problem somewhere else :) — user140120 25 mins ago

fossfreedom

if its touch related and regards the sdk then its on-topic here.

we love this sort of stuff.

Dan Hulme

@guntbert I found it on Wikipedia

guntbert

10:09

@fossfreedom, yeah, but how are we to know when he doesn't say anything about context?

fossfreedom

true - and your comment was correct at the time. Since then he's now clarified this in the comment.

guntbert

@DanHulme you found what? The code snippet?

Dan Hulme

the definition of QML

if that's the question I think it is

guntbert

And I didn't look at the tags :-)

Dan Hulme

Oh, it's not the question I thought. I was thinking of one which was "how can I learn QML?" with no explanation of what QML was. It must be National Talking at Cross Purposes Day today.

guntbert

10:21

@fossfreedom one last question about that: should the OP be encouraged to edit hist post for clarity? I am not able to edit it myself - as I still have no idea what he is talking about.

fossfreedom

yep - we should always encourage new guys to keep re-editing their question rather than dumping new stuff in comments.

Zignd

10:46

Hey guys! Can you tell me if bash script support any type of timer to execute loops?

Oli

11:03

@Zignd What sort of timer? sleep?

Zignd

@Oli Something like that:

execute every 1 second:
-------echo "Hello World"
end execute

Oli

while sleep 1; do
    echo "Hello world"
done

Zignd

@Oli ohh thanks, and about this code, 'sleep' is a keyword/reserved word?

Oli

Actually, people suggest that you should use sleep in the while loop like while sleep 1; do and omit the later sleep.

@Zignd No, it's either /bin/sleep or it's a builtin.

Zignd

humm, ok, thanks!

Oli