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George Edison

00:09

Oh, Mingw-w64... sometimes you really make me frustrated...

Marco Ceppi

01:46

Hey guys! Lets keep on top of the flow of questions, we're still doing over 275 new questions a day!

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Jorge Castro

02:10

0

Q: Noise from Pc (ubuntu 12.04)

Yesterday i installed Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit version on my notebook (Fujitsu a530,with Intel Pentium P6200,4 Gb ram). But today the pc emits a strange noise. I installed Jupiter but this not solved the problem. So i thought that the problem was the version (64 bit),and so if i install the 32 bit,the...

noise pc

@Luisalvarado you need to encourage people to put the edits in their question, that is a mess in there!

myusuf3

so guys

everyone keeps telling me to use myunity for this issue

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Are questions regarding System76 hardware allowed? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/3041/are-questions-regarding-system76-hardware-allowed?atw=1

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 9, 2012 at 2:14 AM

myusuf3

0

Q: Ubuntu 12.04 Menu Bar overlap

I have dual monitors for my development machine. I usually have my terminal open fullscreen in my secondary screen as my IDE(vim) and when I click on my primary screen I get this super ugly menu overlap on my terminal even though its in full screen. The terminal program I use have no menu bar...

12.04 terminal menu

I have dual screen on my main machine

I find this extremely annoying

and I can't use my secondary effectively.

aking1012

02:27

@myusuf3 i told you how i would fix it earlier. conversely, gnome-fallback has no top panel on the secondary display

myusuf3

aking1012, can you be more explicit; I have myunity open, I can find the setting

I would love no topbar on secondary? how do I this explicity?

aking1012

that's if you install gnome-panel and use gnome-fallback, not with unity.

in myunity if you want transparency you want that to 100% and the bottom option to not toggle

this will affect both screens though

I was pretty sure @jrg had it solved for you earlier in chat though

myusuf3

no he didn't

I wish he did

i think I might just try awesome window manager

aking1012

if that's what you want to do. i prefer gnome-fallback myself, but i use unity because a)it's the standard for ubuntu and b) it lets me answer questions with a default config

myusuf3

cool

hopefully it works out

this is starting to get ridiculouys

aking1012

02:38

:)

myusuf3

thanks though:D

Riley

03:18

hey all

lazyPower

o/ @aking1012

George Edison

I think I finally have it. I've got a Code::Blocks project file with two targets - one for the 32-bi version of the Gimp and one for the 64-bit version. Each target has its own set of includes and libraries to link against - and each is compiled with the appropriate variant of Mingw.

All I have to do is change that dropdown to recompile for the selected target.

lazyPower

03:35

Nice

+1 George

George Edison

The really neat part is that I compiled everything from Ubuntu.

(Even the Windows builds of the plugin.)

lazyPower

Impressive

I didn't know you could cross compile on a ubuntu host like that.

George Edison

Yup - the Mingw-w32 and Mingw-w64 toolchain work perfectly for that.

In fact, a lot of open-source Windows software is compiled that way.

lazyPower

Interesting :?

George Edison

I'm not sure if it is even possible to build the Windows version of the Gimp in Windows.

:)

lazyPower

03:39

I wonder how well my asp projects would compile under mono....

That would be sweet to have a ubuntu build farm

aking1012

@lazyPower o/

George Edison

Yup, the plugin seems to work perfectly when run on a native x64 system.

Now all I need to do is write an installer for them.

aking1012

@lazyPower that would be neat

note to self...if your code gets 10/10 from pylint, you were only trying to satisfy pylint. you made your code uglier to comply. ctl-Z repeatedly and save the pretty version. 8.83 is fine

lazyPower

03:59

I feel that

I feel that way with jslint all the time

aking1012

I could force it to 10, but it would uglify my code.

aking1012

04:14

okay there we go. 10/10 with minimal uglification

lazyPower

My code is ugly to begin with

i can only imagine what it would do to it.

aking1012

>.>

Here's the 10/10 pastebin.com/5Ej8eTjz

lazyPower

haha

love the file header

aking1012

yeah...it's pretty great

lazyPower

I lol'd

Amith KK

04:30

Hello all

aking1012

hi

Amith KK

@aking1012 Heya

@aking1012 Unknown Paste id

aking1012

it expired after 10 minutes

aking1012

04:43

'Canonical - not publicly traded' makes me sad. I wanted to use it as the default ticker symbol

George Edison

registry.gimp.org/node/25874

^--- Just finished uploading the installers.

aking1012

That's because you're the man @GeorgeEdison

George Edison

I don't know what I'd do without Mingw's dlltool command.

It will generate the *.a files for the linker given just the .dll and the .def file.

aking1012

yay for static linking

George Edison

It's not static linking.

The *.a files just contain the entrypoints for the functions in the .dll.

aking1012

04:54

okie-doke

Amith KK

@aking1012 Sent you a Gtalk Invite :)

aking1012

approved. i show as on way more than i actually am

Amith KK

Awesome

George Edison

Er... Google Drive Sync is using 3% of my CPU when it is idle...

aking1012

well that's no good...i'm confident it'll get sorted

Questions Feed

05:42

Can you answer this? Are there any open source alternative to Landscape? http://askubuntu.com/questions/112243/are-there-any-open-source-alternative-to-landscape?atw=1 #server

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 9, 2012 at 5:14 AM

wisemonkey

05:54

hey e1 :D

can I see questions I commented on? I want one particular question to appear at top so just wanna edit it

aking1012

yes you can

just a sec

wisemonkey

k

aking1012

is that what you were looking for?

Amith KK

►

wisemonkey

06:09

@aking1012 yup thanks :)

aking1012

np

Amith KK

06:41

George Edison

07:23

Night all.

Amith KK

@GeorgeEdison Good Night

aking1012

nite @GeorgeEdison

Jacob Johan Edwards

07:38

►

Nice.

Niek Bergman

08:00

Morning folks! :-)

Birthday time, yay.

Amith KK

08:29

@NiekBergman Happy Birthday!

Hello @NiekBergman

Heya @jokerdino

jokerdino

hi @AmithKK

Niek Bergman

Thanks!

Amith KK

@NiekBergman Your 23 now?

Niek Bergman

Yup :-D

jokerdino

Happy Birthday @NiekBergman!

Niek Bergman

08:35

Thanks @jokerdino!

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Should I flag "me too" answers? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/3024/should-i-flag-me-too-answers?atw=1

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Amith KK

09:03

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Q: How do I set up Gitorious server on ubuntu?

I wanted to know how I can set up gitorious server on ubuntu and have it work locally. I'm running 12.04 and would like to get the latest version

12.04 git

Upvote Please?

lol

ark

@jokerdino I get it :)

jokerdino

not yours.

but everyone in general. including myself

aking1012

I thought gitorious was deprecated

Amith KK

Yeah

But there are still alot of corporate servers using it

trust me

aking1012

Not saying there aren't, but if it's deprecated...installing it should be considered poor form

Someone might find it useful...I was just saying

Although the comment that points you to other questions is spot on

/me needs to remember to let @AmithKK 's messages age out before responding so he can't delete them and make the reply look st00p1d

Amith KK

Mwahhahahah

;)

I'll stop t

aking1012

09:15

hi @htorque

Amith KK

Heya @htorque

htorque

hi @all

jokerdino

we have another quetzal here @.@

Jacob Johan Edwards

I like quetzls.

jokerdino

have you heard of quetzaghostl?

wiki.ghost-trappers.com/index.php/Quetzaghostl - comes from one of the FB games I used to play ;)

Jacob Johan Edwards

09:29

You mean quetzalcoatl?

Quetzalcoatl

Quetzalcoatl () is a Mesoamerican deity whose name comes from the Nahuatl language and has the meaning of "feathered serpent". The worship of a feathered serpent deity is first documented in Teotihuacan in the first century BC or first century AD. That period lies within the Late Preclassic to Early Classic period (400 BC–600AD) of Mesoamerican chronology, and veneration of the figure appears to have spread throughout Mesoamerica by the Late Classic (600–900 AD). In the Postclassic period (900 – 1519 AD) the worship of the feathered serpent deity was based in the ...

I also enjoy the Nahuatl langauge. No one can pronounce the names right.

Popocatepl y Ixtachihuatl

jokerdino

???

aking1012

So, on a separate note...yay me for finally making some python pylint is happy with

Jacob Johan Edwards

@jokerdino All these words come from Nahuatl originally. You can tell because they end with TLs

Quetzal gets a za in there

jokerdino

does it have something to do with 2012 and the mayans?

aztecs and mayans are far apart right?

Amith KK

@jokerdino 2012 is over according to the mayans

or so I have heard

jokerdino

09:33

mayans are over according to the calendar.

aking1012

@AmithKK their calendar didn't account for leap year. if they were right, we would already be obliterated

Jacob Johan Edwards

Yes, but I belive their languages share a lot in the same way Spanish and Romanian are close

The phoneme range of their languages are similar-ish

Anyway, my SSH public key was getting pretty stale, so...

jokerdino

spam anyone? - askubuntu.com/questions/134316/…

aking1012

agreed and flagged

Amith KK

@jokerdino Flag

aking1012

09:42

any vendor that posts a question with links to their product should be summarily executed

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jokerdino

off the front page straightaway

we need six spam flags for it to be auto deleted right?

aking1012

i have no idea

@jokerdino any luck getting a grasp on that python packaging thing?

jokerdino

been busy with my acads for now. might give it a try next to next weekened

Amith KK

@jokerdino Acads?

aking1012

academics

Amith KK

09:44

oh

jokerdino

or if you want, you can package it :)

aking1012

if you wind up not being able to get a handle on it, post a question and i'll see if i can get a decent answer worked up. you should try though...

Amith KK

I dont get what you both are talking about

aking1012

i'll let him answer that if he wants

jokerdino

Amith, it is a facebook notification thingie

aking1012

09:50

hi @AmirthamPurendraRamanB

Amith KK

Hello @AmirthamPurendraRamanB

Amirtham Purendra Raman B

Hai to all

I would like to learn ubuntu

from where i should i start and i have some basic knowledge in linux

Amith KK

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A: Setting up a git server

It is very easy to achieve with gitolite. In less than an hour you will have easy configurable and secure multiuser git server. I have an howto article on my site http://realcnbs.com/2010/12/setup-git-server-gitolite-ubuntu/

Broken Link?

You decide

Amirtham Purendra Raman B

Hai @ami

Amith KK

@AmirthamPurendraRamanB There is no "Place to start"

You can start from like anywhere

jokerdino

09:52

@AmithKK 404

aking1012

@AmirthamPurendraRamanB I liked RHCE by Jang as a general linux admin introduction. It's not unique to RHEL. Just using it is the place to start though.

Amirtham Purendra Raman B

@aking1012 ok

@aking1012 ok asking10

aking1012

grr

jokerdino

lol

Amith KK

lol

aking1012

09:55

I tell everyone that asks me where to start with linux to install it as their primary OS. It becomes magically easier when you don't have a choice...

Amirtham Purendra Raman B

@AmithKK DO you any links regarding learing linux online

Amith KK

@AmirthamPurendraRamanB Ask Ubuntu of course

Amirtham Purendra Raman B

@AmithKK okie

aking1012

i think i'm going for sushi today...completely off-topic

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jokerdino

gnome-sushi ?

aking1012

10:05

jokerdino

never tried them myself.

htorque

ditto

it's too expensive given that it's raw :D

jokerdino

you have a valid point

aking1012

it's harder to ensure it's not going to make you sick when it's not brought to kill bacteria temperature...hence more expensive, but better for you since you don't cook out all the nutrients

Jacob Johan Edwards

Either a spammer or a mystic

Oooh sushi

jokerdino

10:09

@JacobJohanEdwards how did i miss that?

aking1012

calling it spam...flagged

Jacob Johan Edwards

@jokerdino The human mind is a pattern-finding machine, and tends to gloss over things that look totally incoherent.

jokerdino

it probably got kicked out of the front page

aking1012

i only look at the unanswered page

that's entirely too long now too

jokerdino

1

Q: Weather Gadget like Windows 7

I am new to Ubuntu and would very much like to see a weather gadget (aka widgets). Can anyone recommed a simple add-that could give me a little weather, clock, twitter crawl, etc? Thanks

12.04 software-recommendation widgets

I call it conky

aking1012

10:14

screenlets

they work with unity...if you can get over unity --replace & and setsid unity moving them around

jokerdino

i stopped using screenlets and conky long time ago

Amith KK

aking1012

i was just likened to yoda.../me feelz special

hi @jrg

htorque

special you feel?

Amith KK

Welcome @jrg

aking1012

10:18

@htorque special i do

jrg

@AmithKK Gitorious? Ew. Gitolite is da stuff.

jokerdino

i am sorry, i never knew who or what is yoda

jrg

Hello!

@jokerdino Yoda is a wise old Jedi in Star Wars.

Amith KK

--^

jokerdino

Star wars and star trek. Not my area

Amith KK

10:20

Speak in yoda We will

jrg

Comon, and you use Ubuntu? :O

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Jacob Johan Edwards

@jokerdino You speak as if they're the same thing

jokerdino

@jrg heh how is it even related?

aking1012

@JacobJohanEdwards it's the same thing as people that don't use linux talking about differing unices/linuces as if they're the same

Amith KK

@jokerdino :marcoface:

jokerdino

10:21

@JacobJohanEdwards they are the same star thingie right? :D

Jacob Johan Edwards

@jokerdino Genre labels are constrictive. People will call "No country for old men" a western.

jrg

@jokerdino Nerdery. ;)

jokerdino

so, i can only tell we have star wars / star trek nerds here

Jacob Johan Edwards

Actually, no.

Amith KK

I lied

Jacob Johan Edwards

10:24

It's just a bit of a pet peeve of mine. "Science fiction" is considered one genre, despite the fact that nearly any type of fiction can be written in it. Romance, adventure, comedy, mystery...

Amith KK

I never watched Star Wars

jrg

Star Wars is a Space Opera and swashbuckling good story. Star Trek is about how humans get to be so advanced, we can go faster than light and use a transporter to to from point A to point B without moving a muscle.

aking1012

@AmithKK that should be a crime in most countries

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Amith KK

I guess its piration time then

jrg

@aking1012 I don't like him. He better be careful, or he'll be dead!

Amith KK

10:25

-_-

jokerdino

hmm i think i remember seeing the yoda in Harry potter. the same guy right?

Amith KK

nitro facepalm

@jokerdino WHAT?

jrg

(I sincerely hope you got the reference. Cantina, Mos Eisley)

Amith KK

LOLWHUT

jrg

@jokerdino Yoda is a muppet.

htorque

10:26

aking1012

htorque

kirk and spock don't approve.

aking1012

@jokerdino --^

jokerdino

it's my moment!

Amith KK

Hope that's not a Rebecca Black Reference @jokerdino

jokerdino

10:27

but who was that guy with the socks in HP?

Amith KK

@jokerdino That was Dobby

jrg

Dobby. A elf, not a Yoda.

jokerdino

@AmithKK It's not. Really

jrg

He was so annoying in the books.

Jacob Johan Edwards

jrg

10:28

@JacobJohanEdwards either I'm gravely mistaken, or that is Gandalf.

jokerdino

man, they all look the same.

aking1012

@jokerdino Cthulhu doesn't wear socks

Jacob Johan Edwards

@jrg Notice anything else :D

jokerdino

@aking1012 I can only tell Cthulhu was in one of my python games

aking1012

hides after his hp lovecraft reference

Jacob Johan Edwards

10:30

jrg

Other than the fact that he's saying something Yoda said but is attributing it to DDore? NOPE.

Amith KK

I can only tell Cthulhu is in that Narwhal Song

aking1012

wow, that was a long tangent

Amith KK

@jrg We better change the name of this room to Star Wars misconception room

jokerdino

@aking1012 paste.ubuntu.com/977627

@aking1012 I blame @AmithKK

Jacob Johan Edwards

10:32

“He has a song,” the narwhal replied. “He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.”

jrg

@AmithKK No, I'll just migrate these messages to SciFi and Fantasy, and then none of them will sleep for a week because we're so bad. ;p

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Amith KK

@jrg LOL

jokerdino

Stupid Video title

Amith KK

@James chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/198/mos-eisley

jrg

That was random.

jokerdino

10:34

For the past 10 minutes, yes.

Amith KK

Yes

</random>

jokerdino

I wonder who started it and how.

Amith KK

@jokerdino I did

Memegenerator

Sorry about that

I didn't know that yoda was not a good topic to bring here

:D

jokerdino

I should never mention star* stuff again

Amith KK

+b  star*

The sun @jokerdino, The sun

:P

jrg

10:38

… guys, don't gate crash Mos Eisley.

aking1012

awwz, nobody stayed

jokerdino

dinnEr time

Amith KK

@jokerdino cya

Lets all pretend that this never happened, ok?

aking1012

and there i was getting ready to upload a plz insert 1d4 adventurers cthulhu wallpaper

moving on

Jacob Johan Edwards

Nope, this moment in AUGR history shall be duly recorded. Forever.

Things go off the rails

23 mins ago, 21 minutes total – 79 messages, 6 users, 7 stars

Bookmarked 40 secs ago by Jacob Johan Edwards

htorque

10:43

let's delete the internet then...

:P

Jacob Johan Edwards

We could just try to delete StackExchange'); DROP TABLE Conversations;

aking1012

i'ld think they'ld have it broken up in to per-site or smaller tables to make queries faster...just saying

Amith KK

11:12

@aking1012 This is awesome

But I dont have a US number :(

Prasad

Hi all!

Amith KK

@Prasad Hello

Questions Feed

11:27

Bounty offered: Is it possible to remove the commercial programs section from the Software Cent... http://askubuntu.com/questions/47997/is-it-possible-to-remove-the-commercial-programs-section-from-the-software-cente?atw=1 #softwarecenter

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Prasad

Oh, where is Jokerdino?

jrg

wow, the chromeos scrollbars are really nice. not overlay, but still nice

Amith KK

@jrg The black ones?

Prasad

11:46

Oh hi @jokerdino

jokerdino

hi

jrg

@AmithKK no, not the black scrollbars

i'll get you a screenshot later, i've gotta go in a moment

jokerdino

@JacobJohanEdwards You make it sound like I started the whole O/T mess. Not fair

jrg

@JacobJohanEdwards No, I made things go off the rails.

That's my job. Unfortunately, it's also my job to bring them back under control. And that is painful.

jokerdino

:')

jrg

11:52

@georgeedison So, I was thinking, and I think perhaps a github/lp repository with the proforma comments might be best.

just a thought, since it's what I'm using personally right now as it is.

Jacob Johan Edwards

To be fair, jokerdino, you did say you hadn't seen Star Wars.

jokerdino

yeah but I didn't start it. Just no

ok I probably did.

Prasad

12:25

I'm following a guide that describes how to backup the whole Ubuntu OS (like norton ghost) do you guys use any software like ucloner or Clonezilla, or anything else?

OrangeTux

13:01

trolololololol

jokerdino

you have a problem @OrangeTux?

TDS

O_o

jokerdino

hi @TDS

jokerdino

13:25

Don't be surprised if you see multiple totokaka - askubuntu.com/questions/134356/…

OrangeTux

niope

jokerdino

you are obviously bored @OrangeTux

Jacob Johan Edwards

13:54

AskUbuntu ProTip: You can indent selected lines of text by pressing Ctrl+K

jokerdino

askubuntu.com/questions/134053/… - valid question, dear!

Jacob Johan Edwards

It's just a bug / design oversight. Should be on a bug tracker, not AU. :/

jokerdino

i can make up a reasonable answer to that question.

ok i'll brb; supper

Questions Feed

14:21

Bounty offered: How do I get my Mac to boot from an Ubuntu USB key? http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key?atw=1 #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 9, 2012 at 2:14 PM

htorque

rip, unity-2d!

heard it's going away in 12.10

Jacob Johan Edwards

2

Q: Why is Unity 2D being discontinued?

As reported by Phoronix, the news from UDS appears to be that development on Unity 2D will stop, with the focus being on a single, unified implementation. Obviously maintaining two codebases to do the same thing is not ideal. However, Unity 2D was created for a reason ("Unity 2D's goal is to pro...

unity unity-2d 12.10

Any chance we could get Didier Roche or Albert Astals Cid to comment?

(by the way, this LLVMPipe stuff is magic. CPU emulating GPU capabilities? Magic)

Gonna be a huge blow to GNU, though, now that BSD compiler technology is getting so epic.

And I happen to like copyleft... :-(

ruffEdgz

@JacobJohanEdwards nice solution to the question there

Jacob Johan Edwards

14:37

@ruffEdgz Sssssssssssh, you'll blow my cover for oneboxing a question in General Chat to milk rep.

Keep quiet and I'll make it worth your while!

Great answer - askubuntu.com/a/130209/24694

jokerdino

Found it!!! bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/968974

now, just to get that question reopened

ruffEdgz

sounds good

jokerdino

14:54

hey @ruffEdgz

ruffEdgz

sup @jokerdino

Amith KK

15:55

Hello all

ruffEdgz

sup @AmithKK

Amith KK

16:09

@ruffEdgz Nothin new

Jorge Castro

16:51

buenas mornings!

Amith KK

@JorgeCastro Heya

htorque

@JorgeCastro hi!

"Multi-Monitor Improvements" vs. "System Compositor" - hmmmm

i need two pairs of ears and eyes

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

Things go off the rails

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