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4:49 AM

@aking1012 \o here

Hello all

@MarcoCeppi At the UDS?

@aking1012 Is it impossible to get audium/empathy like chatbubbles in Pidgin

George Edison

5:22 AM

@ajmitch: o/

@GeorgeEdison Your here!

Can I haz chat bubbles in pidgin?

George Edison

No idea, I'm afraid.

I don't use Pidgin.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison hi

How to merge and pipe results from two different commands to single command? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133386/how-to-merge-and-pipe-results-from-two-different-commands-to-single-command?atw=1 #commandline

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George Edison

5:58 AM

Finally, finally... a glimmer of hope - I was able to cross-compile a "Hello World" GTK application and run it without crashing.

Now to figure out why my Gimp plugin isn't working (this really is a lot harder than it sounds).

6:21 AM

getting gray hair while trying to produce a small pdf from a scan... like always

one day i'll write down all the steps... :D

6:36 AM

Good morning!

@NiekBergman Hello

@AmithKK Hey!

Up to some electronics @NiekBergman?

@AmithKK Not at the moment. Also, I'm more of a software guy :-P

@NiekBergman C++ Embde?

6:45 AM

@AmithKK: Nope. I am learning the mystical ways of the Python.

Hssssssssss :-D

I use Cobra, Because Python is too mainstream

Q: Give user permissions to all files and folders

8:24 AM

Bounty offered: Sound not working after 12.04 install http://askubuntu.com/questions/130809/sound-not-working-after-12-04-install?atw=1 #sound

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:51 AM

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I want to have a user who has access to all the files and folders on the system. This is for the purpose of using RSYNC on a local machine to backup a remote machine. At the moment we are using the user backups and although we have added this user to the groups sudo and admin rsync still returns...

11:19 AM

Bounty offered: How to add/remove buttons to Nautilus toolbar? http://askubuntu.com/questions/5251/how-to-add-remove-buttons-to-nautilus-toolbar?atw=1 #nautilus

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Hi Sleeping beauties!

Anteru

11:35 AM

Hi

I have a weirdo problem with hyper-v and ubuntu; any ideas whether askubuntu is the right place or if there's a more specific forum?

Why not try Server Fault?

Not many server folks roam Ask Ubuntu. really

Anteru

All right, thanks.

12:28 PM

@lazyPower not bad.

12:38 PM

@AmithKK post a shot of what you mean by 'ubuntu theme for empathy' icons worked in the pastebin i tagged you next to. what are you wanting to change?

I need to see what it is you want to change

you haven't seen empathy Ubuntu theme?

i just don't get what he's trying to change

he wants the same theme for pidgin I think

or this is an entirely new question

same

askubuntu.com/questions/133170/using-pidgin-with-empathy-themes not this one?

12:41 PM

yes that one

notifier bubbles from OSD already look the same if you use unity. i know icons work with the tweaked adium2empathy

what specific visual element is he trying to change

i think he wants the same skin but i'll let him clarify on that

example. is he trying to change this:

It's one of those things where someone says "I want this", but they're not adequately expressing what they want for me to help them

12:57 PM

okay, that i can look at

> 10:04:03 <lazyPower> we have a wicked game of idlerpg goin on in here

LOL. XD

1:22 PM

@jokerdino that's not how pidgin is built. you can set your own message background and let others do the same, but fancy bubbles just isn't going to happen afaict

1:34 PM

hi all!

hi

morning

anyone read computer stupidities?

nope

rinkworks.com/stupid

then i recommend you read it in free time.

caution: I'm not responsible if you die of laughter. :P

1:40 PM

it does seem funny giving it a quick once over

hmm... depends how you take it. some of them made me laugh really hard.

This ones not bad..
This little bit of Java was written as part of a group project at university. The friend who passed it to me has been bouncing off the walls about the quality of the guilty party's code (silly things like defining error and success codes with the same value so you don't know what the return code means and stuff like that), but this is the most obviously stupid bit.

public int convertItoi(Integer v)
{
    if (v.intValue()==1) return 1;
    if (v.intValue()==2) return 2;
    if (v.intValue()==3) return 3;

where can i get some detailed info on date-time applet?

@Mahesh what info?

rlemon.github.com/lememe anyone got any feedback for me on this?

Are abstract locations supported?

1:52 PM

as far as i can see, UTC is ok but not anything else.

@rlemon too small to read. make the text bolder and bigger?

@jokerdino next is a font selection menu, atm only bold arial. border and size are controlled by the slider.

border is 1/20th the size rounded up.

oops didn't see that slider. good stuff

Ok, I wonder how PO'ed dad would be with my having a machine inside the DMZ all the time. :S

Meh. I'll just play it safe.

1:57 PM

4

@rlemon aw, so awesome!

mwahaha.

I'd just move everything into the DMZ, it's where I've got gigabit. :P

is there an IRC channel for the support of date-time indicator? I find a lot of features missing.

btw what package is it linked with, and that begs another question..

do we have a way of knowing which package is responsible for a display element or a window or a particular behaviour?

a dirty way would be to use apport, since i can 'try' filing a bug by clicking on a window, and a bug report is generated on the package that created it....

indicator-datetime

@jokerdino Thanks, and regarding my general question, any guesses?

2:10 PM

which specific question?

I have a window. and i want to know the specific package that created it

hmm do you have anything in mind that you want to know about?

btw thanks @aking1012 I've read a bit about MTU and your suggestion makes perfect sense. Yet to reconnect to my hostel and test, though.

@jokerdino No. I want a perfectly generic answer, if there is one.

good UGT morning @Prasad

i can't think of any solution that would work. sorry about that

haaaaai, gooood ugt morning

2:18 PM

@jokerdino np. btw if it interests you, I have a dirty solution.

@Mahesh np

to try reporting a bug against the 'unknown package' and apport magically finds the package for u.

ubuntu-bug -w that is

that is the only use case. so good to see we have that feature. :)

@aking1012 And when i earlier said i couldn't understand a word of what u said, i did not realise that i was not willing to learn. When i found it, things made perfect sense.. :) Thanks for teaching me this important lesson.

@jokerdino yup..
:)

is there anyone who uses KDE here?

2:31 PM

not me

nope

there is a question in the QA zone! he may be out of luck :-)

@Prasad might want to ask on the site, we have a small but vibrant group of KDE users

he doesn't seem to have a question actually

Q: how do I install a new KDE theme?

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I have been trying out KDE in Ubuntu 12.04 recently, and have downloaded a few themes from KDE-LOOK.ORG but I have no idea how to change the theme? I can select a theme from the inbuilt repo from the settings, but how do I apply a theme that I have downloaded from the KDE-LOOK site (This for exa...

themes kde

2:35 PM

@Mahesh I think I'm encountering that ethernet timeout thing

O.o... shall we file a bug?

darn, where is the USC banner hosted?

If only my proxy server allowed it, the teams would've had plenty of bug reports to handle with. I'm sure most, if not all, are bugs that went un-noticed.

not yet

i need to figure out if its related to my cable or not

@jokerdino USC banner??? Which one?

2:39 PM

since i'm splicing new ones right now. :P

the exhibit banner. If I can find the link, I can make my answer a little more awesome :P

how do i track to and fro traffic at least?

@jrg Do that, then try aking's suggestionof lowering MTU size and see if that helps, and if things fail, we should really consider filing a bug.

@jokerdino I didn't get u. Are you referring to the recommended apps banner in software center?
I doubt it, since you've said 'hosted' and 'traffic'

yeah the banner in USC.

the banner is hosted elsewhere. i am trying the find the link

i am probably not using the right terms here

bye guys, need to go, dinner is waiting, see ya

Bounty offered: Google-Earth will not launch Ubuntu 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/130970/google-earth-will-not-launch-ubuntu-12-04?atw=1 #googleearth

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2:46 PM

@Prasad Good night! :)

@jokerdino Are you talking of the image 'Our star apps' ??

that thing yeah

it is not image but a banner

ok, ok. why dont you take a screenshot and use it?

you want the rolling thingy?

ok never mind that.

i am writing crap chat messages today arrgh

What network traffic are you interested in?

lol I've read that

Hello all

2:49 PM

i want to know what stuff is phoning home and stuff like that

hello @AmithKK

Heya @Mahesh

hmm... Never tried it, but heard wireshark is good.

@AmithKK How r u?

2012-05-08 22:49:54,334 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.widgets.exhibits - WARNING - download failed: '<class 'gi._glib.GError'>', 'HTTP Error: Cannot resolve proxy hostname ()'

@Mahesh I'm fine

@jokerdino ?

2:51 PM

it's trying to download from somewhere. i need the link

@jokerdino Is that a script running? btw wireshark should do the job, if thats what u want.

@rlemon YU NO USE IMPACT?

Its probably a simple get request on a page or script

i never got wireshark working

u've to sudo it.

ok, gksudo

I've tried it, just now, and wireshark shows me all traffic

2:55 PM

that was a good question @coversnail

@jokerdino Now I'm ready to help you. Do you have wireshark installed?

not this bug one but the software-center banner thingie

something lighter?

hmm... no idea.. lemme google it and see if i can get something

never mind, i am installing it again

installing what?

2:58 PM

wireshark is amazing btw

@Mahesh wireshark

@jrg Agrees

Its awesome

I'm currently running it btw

how does it work?

it just froze.

@jokerdino Attaching to a socket

monitoring packets

@jokerdino It does, at times. run it with gksudo. easiest way to get it running. also lil dirty.

and select the interface. eth0 if lan, wlan0 if wifi

and then repeat the action that caused that unable to fetch/resolve/whatever

stop capture, save it to a file, and now start applying filters to dig out what you want.

3:06 PM

i am being dumb today. boo

and that person has accepted my answer anyway. not much to make my answer any more awesome

and if it freezes for lil long, restart it. If you've got the tim and patience and such stuff, add yourself to group 'wireshark'

@jokerdino May i have a look at it?

Q: Have applications which appear in the featured banner in the Software Centre paid to be advertised there?

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When looking at the Ubuntu Software Centre I was wondering whether the banner at the top (which contains featured applications) contains paid for advertising, or whether they are just recommendations by Canonical for useful applications? I haven't seen anything in the app developers section of t...

software-center commercial

ok, you get an upvote

thanks.

time for dinner. bbl or bbt

3:09 PM

bye for now

@jokerdino AU way of saying thanks are upvotes. I'll give you opportunities with answers this month, and you may 'thank' me properly then.. :D

bye.. :)

:)

@jokerdino +50 for you :P

@AmithKK what happened??

ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/new-ea-games-released-in-ubuntu.html no new games for me :(

@jokerdino You got 5 upvotes

3:13 PM

nice. three new upvotes

coversnail

@jokerdino Thanks, was wondering because I'd never seen any mention of potential advertising in the app developers part of the Ubuntu website. Seems like a potentially big revenue stream that's being missed out on, though I guess it might annoy people to see advertising too

yeah your question just made me wonder about that.

but historically, Ubuntu was never about profit making.

sweet, i finished my cables.

nice

@jrg Awesome

3:19 PM

and they all work.

@AmithKK Impact?

@rlemon The font

@jrg that part is key

as always. haha

Indeed

Historically, yes. In the future, no.

3:23 PM

lol

canonical does need to really start making money, they can't live with just borrowing Mark's personal fortune.

@rlemon Haha Awesome

red hat is making money. we still have hope

@jrg He touched on the partnerships with Intel and HP at UDS in his keynote. I think he's got his sights set on something big with Ubuntu-cloud + juju being a push-button solution for cloud deployment.

3:27 PM

@aking1012 Yeah, definitely.

Anyway, if we wanted to continue this discussion for some reason, Aking has a room we can move into... :)

move this convo to the other room ;)

i made a mistake to have this started here

← 13 messages moved from Ubuntu Regulators

WHOOSH

Hey @coversnail, forgot to mention this earlier - good job with all those edits. :)

Hello @coversnail

Quite busy, arent you

ever used target.com ?

Hello @Alvar

3:33 PM

are Ubuntu cokes only sold on those white cans?

@jokerdino nope

@AmithKK hi :P

@jokerdino i prefer amazon, but they don't take paypal QQ

never used pp :P

why i am asking is coz my sister is apparently working on target's backend.

3:34 PM

and I've never gotten stolen of my money :D so no point of pp :D

@Alvar it's how i get paid for some contract stuff

@aking1012 aha, cool

and i never heard of target before

@aking1012 cool

I have a paypal account too

just for the lulz of it

;)

i use paypal... only because I refuse to get a credit card

3:35 PM

but you know the ubuntu coke, are they only sold on can? wanted to buy like a lot for a friends birthday :D

@Alvar Its not related

@rlemon they have a paypal correlated Visa now...I might have to do that so I can shop on amazon with paypal ;)

@AmithKK ehm..

meh, anything I want online that I need a CC for I just use the work CC and give the cash to the accountant.

@AmithKK I only see those white cans in the store, but if I wanted to buy like 2 liters then it would be 6 cans :O

3:37 PM

i wonder how many of you hate outsourcing :D

Ubuntu Cola

Ubuntu Cola is a soft drink certified by The Fairtrade Foundation. Made with Fairtrade sugar from Malawi and Zambia, Ubuntu Cola is the first UK cola to be Fairtrade certified. It is available for sale in the United Kingdom, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Greece, Italy, Switzerland and online. It is available in 330 ml cans, 500 ml PET plastic bottles, and 275 ml glass bottles. Name Like the Ubuntu computer operating system, the cola is named after the African philosophy of Ubuntu, which means humanity or fellow feeling; kindness, but otherwise th...

whoot I thought there was a badge for 100 flags approved :O

coversnail

@jrg thanks, its np, I like doing it :)

@rlemon the glass bottles would be awesome! :D

amith@amith-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nvidia-96 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable

coversnail

3:38 PM

@AmithKK Hi! A little bit, should probably take a break!

coke in a glass bottle always taste better, no idea why :P

@Alvar 1, 80 and 500

@jokerdino great, just 400 to go then..

way to go

@Alvar less of the petrol based sealer to keep the can from rusting out from the inside

3:39 PM

?

@htorque if the earth was flat, then it would be hell getting around to the other side! :P

@Alvar abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/fda-refuses-ban-bpa-16046330

I hate us news... they are so splashy...

lol?

:D

I'm hungry and out of potato chips! WHAT WILL I DO NOW?!

Make tea?

3:49 PM

@Alvar how about UK news: bbc.co.uk/news/health-15834072

@aking1012 UK FTW :D

top gear :D

no matter what, the truth is the truth

@jokerdino and crazy Americans are crazy Americans.. :D

Why yes, I am crazy. Why do you- SQUIRREL.

4

me 2

3:52 PM

there are worse Americans :D

I am yet to meet a native American.

:P

probably a good time to move this conversation in a different direction

How do we call those historic ones?

@aking1012 Amen, forget I said anything.

@jokerdino i was being deliberately snarky.

3:53 PM

watching the Sopranos, one of the best series ever made :D

I almost wish hbo were in sweden as well :P

it won't change the fact though :P

heads or tails. amith and i are averaging

g00d night

yo

4:18 PM

howyd @TheX.

@jrg whats up?

4:48 PM

BBT

Good Night

Awesome. I've almost completely mapped the yahoo finance CSV API in python.

@aking1012 sounds exciting...

@TheX

I have no idea what you are talking about...??

okay

Q: Ubuntu 12.04 Menu Bar overlap

5:34 PM

welcome back @jrg

myusuf3

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I have dual monitors for my development machine. I usually have my terminal open fullscreen in my secondary screen as my IDE(vim) and when I click on my primary screen I get this super ugly menu overlap on my terminal even though its in full screen. The terminal program I use have no menu bar...

12.04 terminal menu

ideas?

Thank you @aking1012

you're looking for transparency @myusuf3

@myusuf3 I use myunity to set my topbar to transparent. if you did that and ran it as set to size of screen, but not maximized it would work out fine. alternately, if you want to abuse a bug, then just maximize a window on another screen that has its corner on that monitor. the bug will cause that topbar to go transparent.

Great answer: How can I check if my CPU is AMD64 compatible? http://askubuntu.com/questions/133111/how-can-i-check-if-my-cpu-is-amd64-compatible/133123?atw=1#133123 #64bit

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@myusuf3 Actually, try F11 in your terminal.

f11 and then turn on transparency. will look like this

5:41 PM

hi all

hi @htorque

@jrg sweet, i'm not the only one that uses htop

(or something like that.

@aking1012 Oh, I've been hooked in htop. it's an amazing tool.

prefer it over top :P

amazing tool

should be default. :P

5:43 PM

i wish it was, but it would require ncurses. top doesn't iirc

true

@aking1012 I don't know why more don't use it ;)

its very useful

> 12:00 Login Speed Improvements ( Desktop ) G. Ballroom A

I've been flamed for recommending it...on AU in fact

yay

5:46 PM

o.O

lol

if we're honest, there is almost no reason not to use htop

did they say why they don't like it?

@aking1012 where?!

digging it up just a sec

askubuntu.com/questions/122984/… it's in the comments. i think it was just complaining about docs...not really looking for an answer

5:49 PM

htop seems pretty self-explanatory to me. shrug

i know right?

i put in the why in an edit to clean up the comments

htop is also one more character to type (at least by default)!!!

alias bte to htop and you fix that(bte representing best_tool_ever)

the only issue i have with htop is that its keyboard shortcuts interfere with my tmux config.

you can click on the areas if you want

F10 interfered with something for me, but i found that ncurses supports clickables

5:53 PM

wait, you can click it?

yessir...that's in that answer too :)

i now feel really dumb. yay me. ;)

<.< we all feel dumb sometimes

Marco Ceppi

o/

o/ marco

6:02 PM

/me waves

how's UDS?

/me is interested too, i enjoyed your talk

I'm enjoying "State of the Server" right now

@jrg make sure you tell your teacher that you appreciate him/her today...

@TheX Mom knows she's appreciated. Although i do have some emails to send to my ubuntu-using friends who taught me a lot.

Or i'll just go on an upvoting spree. Think that will work? ;)

@jrg only if you don't forget to upvote me ;)

6:10 PM

You only taught me that you don't like unity. Not worth thanking you for. ;)

oh.... :-(

>.>

surely I have taught you something??

@jrg - i'm working on setting up an app to do the pledgie campaign per year + each project gets its own campaign with possible target dollar amounts. we'll see if i finish it. i think it would explain a lot about why more devs don't do open source.

It might explain a lot.

but at the same time, I see a ton of devs doing open source

but i don't see any designers

6:13 PM

or i could start eating words...either way. just saying.

brief aside: 7 starred comment. i think that's a new record for me

BBL - mw3 is calling my name, and i have some slack in my stock apps project plan atm

if anyone has time, i'm puzzled as to why i haven't gotten any responses on this one unless it was just complaining: askubuntu.com/questions/124684/…

6:33 PM

I liked your response... it worked for me :P

up vote from me

Jorge Castro

6:46 PM

howdy from UDS!

6

sup @JorgeCastro

Q: How can I force unzip / zip not to create a subdirectory when I extract it?

was that @jrg or @AmithKK who aid they had a prob with network on and off thingy?

guess what? I've solved it.. :D

Somehow the particular combination of my laptop and that lan port doesn't work. every other combo works.. lol :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:07 PM

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Depending on how a zip file is created, sometimes it will extract all of the files directly, and sometimes it will extract the files into a subdirectory. If the latter is true, how can I force the unzip command to "ignore" that first level directory? Example: cd /tmp wget http://omeka.org/file...

linux bash ubuntu zip

@Mahesh That was me.

so it was hardware related

must be.

but why does just one pair not work?

PS: Other combos I tested didn't include other linux pcs.

no idea. spill water on anything lately?

nope..

7:20 PM

then idk

My lappy connects ok in other hostel rooms.

its just in my room it refuses to connect

and my roommates win8 hppily connects... :|

btw any idea what would be the disk-space requirements for a complete mirror?

ok, my q was incomplete. complete mirror of Ubuntu repository, for lets say, precise.

hi @ChanHoSuh! just noticed ur presence

and ok, jorge's back, anyway his watever prog ignore all unimportant pings, so i decided not to ping him unless important.

why trouble that poor chap?

:P

7:41 PM

why not? :P