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jokerdino

12:00

First one was not .gconfd Look at it carefully.

Alex Poulos

I alex@griever:~$ mv .gconfd .gconfd.backup
mv: cannot stat `.gconfd': No such file or directory

jokerdino

So you lost it somewhere.

Let's just move the data to another account. Should be easier to check for problems.

Alex Poulos

so move everything that's not .foldername?

jokerdino

Yeah.

All the not hidden files and folders.

Alex Poulos

Not even fonts?

gotta have my fonts man

jrg

12:04

.fonts dir can probably be safely moved.

jokerdino

Have your fonts then.

Alex Poulos

ok - where is the other account folder located?

and how will I get my programs back?

all the ubuntu-restricted drivers

all of that stuff

jokerdino

The program is installed /usr/ don't worry about that.

What was that command to add a new user?

Alex Poulos

I have the new user made

I just need to know where the folder is located

jokerdino

it is in /home/newuser/

Alex Poulos

12:08

@jokerdino I know how to cp from dir to dir within home, but how do I do so outside of home?

jokerdino

cp ~ /home/newuser/

Alex Poulos

eg: cp folder1 folder2 newuserfolder

ok

jokerdino

@Mahesh If you did it right, you should have the analytical badge by now.

@ravi I see that you have lost some rep. Your meta account has more rep than the main.

Alex Poulos

@jokerdino how would I do multiple folders?

jokerdino

@AlexPoulos we just did.

Alex Poulos

12:12

@jokerdino the ./folder 's werent copied?

jokerdino

IIRC, no

Alex Poulos

@jokerdino also how do I get all my programs, ppa settings and third party ppas back?

jokerdino

It is already installed in the system. None of the apps is lost.

But you might lose some of your settings. But not programs.

Alex Poulos

ppa settings?

jokerdino

No, program settings.

Alex Poulos

12:15

so say my regular dir is ~ /home/alex/ and I chose to cp that over to the other folder - will that just copy what's visible or also the hidden folders as well?

jokerdino

I believe it is just the normal folders.

Alex Poulos

...

jokerdino

If it is not, we might create another user and fix that mess. :P

Alex Poulos

thats not very reassuring Joker..

:)

lol

jokerdino

I have another 10 minutes to spend. Better hurry up.

Alex Poulos

12:16

should I just make a bash script and select the specific folders?

jokerdino

You haven't copied yet?

Alex Poulos

@jokerdino I appreciate your patience... but no, I want to know all about my situation so I can be prepared for the reprocussions

jokerdino

sigh

Just copy by GUI then.

Go to home. Ctrl + A all the folders. (make sure only non-hidden folders and files)

Click on filesystem on the side bar.

Alex Poulos

@jokerdino no, I'll go out on a limb, Ill copy from my current main user then if it copies the hidden folders too, I'll go through and trash them

from cli

jokerdino

I don't think it works that way.

Alex Poulos

12:19

...

jokerdino

An user account has to have those for functionality.

If you delete them, then KABOOM.

6 more minutes.

Alex Poulos

nothing is easy in ubuntu is it...?

jokerdino

Those comments are not necessary.

Alex Poulos

@jokerdino it was a joke

jokerdino

I don't have time.

Alex Poulos

12:21

ok

I did an ls

all it shows are the regular folders

in the first user folder

jokerdino

Yes, it should do that.

Alex Poulos

so I take it that means that it will only copy those then

correct?

jokerdino

Same level of uncertainty here.

Let's be optimistic and hope so.

Alex Poulos

here goes nothing

jokerdino

3 more minutes and I won't be here anymore.

Alex Poulos

12:23

alex@griever:~$ cp ~ /home/alex ~ /home/newusers/
cp: omitting directory `/home/alex'

did I do something wrong?

jokerdino

Yes you did.

cp ~ /home/newusers/

that's all you need to do.

it probably omitted it.

Alex Poulos

new users is the folder TO im copying

jokerdino

you should be good to go then.

Alex Poulos

Im copying FROM /alex/

jokerdino

~ means /home/alex

Alex Poulos

12:24

deja vu..

jokerdino

last minute. hah

good luck.

Alex Poulos

wait

hold on

how do I copy TO someplace?

it keeps ommitting

jokerdino

What does it say?

Alex Poulos

alex@griever:~$ cp ~ /home/alex ~ /home/newusers
cp: omitting directory `/home/alex'

jokerdino

Why are you doing cp ~ /home/alex ~ /home/newusers ?

Alex Poulos

12:26

...

that's the new users folder

the new user

jokerdino

Just do cp ~ /home/newusers/

or if you are adamant: cp /home/alex /home/newusers/

Alex Poulos

cp: omitting directory `/home/alex'

same thing

jokerdino

exact command you did?

Alex Poulos

yes

jokerdino

Doubt it.

Alex Poulos

12:28

cp: omitting directory `/home/alex'
alex@griever:~$ cp /home/alex /home/newusers/
cp: omitting directory `/home/alex'

I did just as you said

jokerdino

we are out of luck.

And i am leaving.

Sorry but tough luck.

Mahesh

12:43

hey as far as i know, cp copies all folders n files.. including hidden ones

@jokerdino nope.. still waiting for my badge to appear..

Mahesh

13:09

and hey perhaps a day or two ago, someone posted an image here saying he needed a url to post it in his question.

Now my question:

How do you post an image here without it already being on web?

jrg

Upload... > Browse > File > Open > Upload > done

Mahesh

@DavidOneill This is what i was mentioning.. Found it at last! Hurrayyyyyyy!!!

@jrg wait a sec.. where'z this upload button?

jrg

@Mahesh Oh, you don't have enough rep yet. :\

you have to have 100 reputation to upload pictures.

Mahesh

kk thanks fr d info.. :)

hey why cant we gift rep? :P lol

Takkat

13:26

Here you go @Mahesh... ;)

Hi all

Mahesh

Hie!! and @Takkat have we met before?

Takkat

No we haven't :)

jrg

Nobody meets @Takkat. He simply is.

Takkat

lol

I was traveling a lot the last days.

Before that I was too busy at work to chat.

Mahesh

hmm.. and @jrg stumbled across ur blahg...

jrg

13:31

Oh, my blargh. :D

Mahesh

and hey folks, i meant meeting 'online'.. :P

jrg

@Mahesh heh. ;)

Takkat

Virtual clash of brains...

Mahesh

yep.. watever u wish to call it..

jrg

@Takkat So you're still on your visiting streak, or did you have to break it?

Mahesh

13:31

ahem ahem.. i didn't get that @Takkat

Takkat

I am glad I'm back at home now.

lol - look how simple an answers can be to get accepted: askubuntu.com/a/121602/3940

lazyPower

@aking1012 i enjoyed reading it. hi5

Takkat

Hi

lazyPower

o/ Takkat

long time no see

Takkat

same - but I am always around somewhere.

lazyPower

13:35

i know the feeling ;)

Takkat

All and everybody seems to be pushing and dragging me away from that keyboard.

lazyPower

Sometimes ya just have to unplug

like me... right now. because im' late for class

ciao

Mahesh

and @jrg donno y allof a sudden crossed the 100 .. :P
and now i see the upload button as well.. lol

Takkat

Can't unplug my work :"( There is no wire attached.

jrg

@lazyPower cya

Takkat

13:38

cu @lazyPower

Mahesh

Is creating a community wiki answer with summary of all posted tiny answers welcome?

and should i ask this in meta?

never mind.. asked it in meta.
http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/2945/45659
opinions go there, to keep things organized.. :)

Takkat

13:54

@Mahesh I believe a super-answer is always welcome. I wonder if we really need CW for that.

Mahesh

what if i get downvotes for just copy pasting?? O.o

and people may think i'm trying to farm rep..

so just in case...

Chan-Ho Suh

That's called taking one for the team :-)

Takkat

@Mahesh as long as you get more up- than down... ;p

Mahesh

:)

Takkat

Well, CW is on the safe side then.

Chan-Ho Suh

13:56

So... you trying to farm rep?

Mahesh

for now i'll go ahead and make a cw answer

Takkat

I've seen a lot c&P going on here.

Mahesh

hmm.. i wont say no.. i need rep, but no, i gain rep only by the better practices..

Chan-Ho Suh

I'm just joking, Mahesh

Mahesh

a bunch of repwhores exploiting a pair of loopholes and wwhoof! the site will no more be usable, right?

Chan-Ho Suh

13:59

sorry, I was afk a sec otherwise I'd have said that sooner

Takkat

Best for the site is a really good answer. Rep is less important than that.

Mahesh

:) yup..

Chan-Ho Suh

That's what a repwhore would say though :-/

Takkat

They would say anything yep.

Chan-Ho Suh

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a love-hate thing with Ubuntu?

Mahesh

14:00

@ChanHoSuh hey no offence taken..

@ChanHoSuh ><

i do.. :)

i love ubuntu.. donno y..

Chan-Ho Suh

Hey this chat interface is kind of slick...

that's the kind of thing I love about ubuntu... the community and all that

but then there's that Unity thing

Mahesh

and i hate it coz i spend all my time here..

Chan-Ho Suh

and the way they randomly change things around

@Mahesh not healthy! :)

get out a bit... take your laptop OUTSIDE

Mahesh

lol.... i do wen i have classes.. :P

Chan-Ho Suh

remember the signal can still reach far! :-D

Mahesh

14:03

i'm on a lan in ma room, but wen at class, yup the wifi reaches far.. :D

Chan-Ho Suh

hm...I don't like the sound of that actually

too many people on laptops in the lecture hall now

Mahesh

(am i suppossed to reply??)

:P

Chan-Ho Suh

nah I'm just an old man

mumbling to himself

hm, I'm such an old man, my thought is now... how do I get this chat thing to appear in my terminal instead of this slick interface?

Mahesh

too bad elinks doesn't support js

Chan-Ho Suh

I think that's a feature, not a flaw, according to some :-p

I saw an interview with inventor of javascript... he invented it in X days... guess what X is

don't cheat

Mahesh

14:08

the thing that serves gui i guess..

Chan-Ho Suh

haha, lol, good one.... -_-;

10 days!

Mahesh

10 days to?

Chan-Ho Suh

he invented javascript in 10 days

Mahesh

thats.... fast

was it developed independently?

Chan-Ho Suh

yeah... I still can't believe it

and he did a good job too...

Mahesh

14:11

or from java as i always imagined?

Chan-Ho Suh

actually, only reason java is in the name is kind of marketing

they told him they wanted a little java

tachyons

hi

Chan-Ho Suh

but basically java for dummies who couldn't program

in the end, it had nothing to do with java

hi tachyons

Mahesh

hmm.. but the syntax is mostly similar, right?

thatss what got me thinking..

Thanks fr d knowledge.. :)

tachyons

whats the topic?

Mahesh

14:13

and ya, hi @tachyons

scroll up and u'll find were talking about javascript..

Chan-Ho Suh

hm, only very very vaguely

javascript is more like c, I guess

if you look at java versus javascript, it's obvious the difference

when you look at javascript and c you see ugly garbage, so similar :-/

Mahesh

its been a year since i last touched js.. cant comment more..

Chan-Ho Suh

hehe, I'm just teasing

I'm not a c guy

Mahesh

ugly garbage?? js is much cleaner than c...

Chan-Ho Suh

that's not saying much though

Mahesh

14:16

:P lol

Chan-Ho Suh

:-p

Mahesh

btw did you work on a terminal anytime?

tachyons

stackoverflow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Chan-Ho Suh

I don't know javascrip though... probably should learn sometime

Mahesh

or were they already dead by the time u started working?

Chan-Ho Suh

14:17

lol

you asking me?

Mahesh

@tachyons ???

yup.. i'm asking u.. :D

Chan-Ho Suh

haha you asking tachyons if s/he worked on physical terminal?

Mahesh

nope.. i'm asking you !@ChanHoSuh

Chan-Ho Suh

me?? hahaa, like shared terminal like in early days of BSD??

I'm not that old!

I grew up with Commodore 64

Mahesh

lol...

Chan-Ho Suh

14:19

what's so funny? :)

actually I had 128

Mahesh

btw did anyone preserve terminals? atleast in a museum?

Chan-Ho Suh

Commodore 128D

it was like the big bro to the 64

sure

Mahesh

my lol was to 'I'm not that old!'

thought for a moment.. i missed a pic.. :P

Chan-Ho Suh

I missed out on original Nintendo though.. parents wouldn't get it for me

I had to always play on friends... and you know what? You can never be as good unless you have your own... so sad :'-(

you're too young for Nintendo huh?

now it's all 3D

Mahesh

i was afk for a while..

Chan-Ho Suh

14:23

alright, @Mahesh, nice chatting with you

Mahesh

probably time to go...

Chan-Ho Suh

maybe I'll see you some other time... I better get some shut-eye

Mahesh

shut eye? umean sleep??

Chan-Ho Suh

lol

yeah

Mahesh

:P

Chan-Ho Suh

14:24

try to get some sun

Mahesh

k good night @ChanHoSuh :)

Chan-Ho Suh

if that's possible wher eyou are :-)

good night :-p

Mahesh

i need to go have my dinner..

Chan-Ho Suh

I hear birds chirping though... so not really "night"

lol

Mahesh

i wish goodnight at 11 am at times.. so no probs.. atleast for me.. :P

jrg

14:42

Dang, people are having boot problems left and right. Something in Oneiric broke, and it hit the fan.

@jokerdino Did you have your inbox explode with Matthias' uploads to precise?!

jokerdino

15:04

Jeez

Ask him to take a break, man. It is only Saturday.

That was a quick trip across the city and back. :)

And where is our little trouble maker?

@Mahesh In that case, you did it wrong. I got the badge in [meta.SO] after you.

Hi @Gigili Long time no see.

Hi @RemusRigo @projectshave

Gigili

Hi!

Remus Rigo

hi

jokerdino

What's Stefano doing? I haven't seen him since the mid Feb.

Gigili

He's quite busy in real life.

jokerdino

Exams?

Gigili

15:09

Yes, university and such.

jokerdino

ah, tell him i wished all the best for his exams and other stuff that keeps him busy.

Gigili

He'd say thank you in reply.

jokerdino

@jrg Lucky I have a filter in action for precise-changes. :)

@Gigili He would say you mean?

Is he anywhere near you?

Gigili

@jokerdino Yeah, what did I say?

Unfortunately not.

jokerdino

ok fine :)

Happy to see you, anyway.

Gigili

15:13

Thank you, same as here.

jokerdino

What brought you here?

Gigili

Who? Me?

jokerdino

Yes.

Gigili

A weird issue, I'll ask for help in a few minutes.

Amith KK

15:52

Hello all

jrg

16:05

@jokerdino I'm too lazy for that.

William

16:19

@MarcoCeppi Are you there?

jrg

@William whats up?

William

I need a sysadmin.

Badly.

jrg

What'd you break this time?

William

Trying to get a site to work and keep getting a 500 Internal Server Error.

jrg

whats your logs showing?

William

16:22

Well, it;s an Elgg install.

Evver heard of Elgg?

It's an open source social networking CMS.

jrg

oh, i've no clue.

William

Drat.

Seen Marco recently?

He's the one I should ask.

tachyons

@AmithKK hello

@ThinkDifferent yeah :o

William

How is @keepass in here?

tachyons

Ubuntu – askubuntu.com

Launched Q&A site for ubuntu users and developers

Amith KK

16:37

@jrg He wants mod rewrite enabled

William

classlibrary.org

theres the URL

jrg

loading fine for me.

William

Is?

Yeha, but it's in CSS hell.

It's not loading any of the CSS right, and you can't login.

lazyPower

17:15

Well hats off to their maintenance. It didn't reset my session.

I envy their knowledge of the platform. Every deployment i push out ends up resetting sessions and clobbering user experience to anyone active on the sites while i implement new features.

Amith KK

@lazyPower Nice Cat

lazyPower

@AmithKK talking about Mr Milo that i posted on G+?

Amith KK

somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

aking1012

@lazyPower I don't know how they did it, but I would like to know.

Amith KK

@lazyPower Yes

lazyPower

17:19

@aking1012 the only thing i can figure is that the sessions are database stored, in which case it will persist through even application restarts. As the application makes a DB poll for every active session request.

Amith KK

lazyPower

Listening to the incredibox on shuffle mode. this is pure baller.

aking1012

I found a setup on incredibox that I like

lazyPower

its like, Gorillaz in programmatic format.

Speaking of Gorillaz... its time to have a Gorillaz marathon this weekend.

Amith KK

@lazyPower You followed my link?

lazyPower

17:22

Yessir

Amith KK

BBT

aking1012

17:46

hi @blueXrider

Is there a mod around? If so do you want me to delete the answer here: askubuntu.com/questions/121899/… so it redirects or leave it

Welcome back @GeorgeEdison

George Edison

Thanks.

blueXrider

@aking1012 it's closed, letitgooooooo

aking1012

yeah, I know closed as dupe redirects if there aren't any answers though

think i just rubberduckied my answer

jrg

18:03

@aking1012 nice rubberducking.

aking1012

@jrg Thanks. Do you still have that link for the clone of spacewalk? I wrote a short-ish blog article on why I think some OSS projects fail and linking to it might be a good idea.

jrg

18:20

@aking1012 Yeah let me dig it up.

aking1012

I browsed kickstarter and couldn't find it

jrg

kickstarter.com/projects/aschmitz/…

aking1012

got it and linked

ty

Jorge Castro

I didn't even know that existed

last I checked though there was newer/decent support for debian based systems in spacewalk

aking1012

@JorgeCastro Cool beans

Jorge Castro

18:31

fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/Deb_support_in_spacewalk

aking1012

That does cover pushing packages. I may need to read up on it some more. I think that may go back to my snap-ins note though...so a snap-in could be pushed as a package.

Mahesh

@AmithKK O.o.. the incredibox isn't working.. :(

403 error here

aking1012

@JorgeCastro thx for the link on meta btw, it's in my bookmarks now

@Mahesh works for me

Mahesh

too lazy to crop, bt u cn see that i guess..

aking1012

I didn't mean that it wasn't 403 for you, I meant that it's not down for everyone. Possibly a network/filter issue

Mahesh

18:40

hmm.. probably.. bt isn't 403 a server-side prob?

(I've no idea abt it anyway..)

aking1012

You can generically return 403 if you want to cut off a website/webpage in a filter.

Mahesh

ok.. i didn't know that..

@jokerdino I did it right, and I get it now. I'm behind a proxy. A proxy that caches web pages.. and it probably means I've a very slim chance of earning Analytical badge.. :(

aking1012

@JorgeCastro Updated the blog article to include a link there btw

htorque

19:42

hi co-lurkers!

wisemonkey

@jrg @aking1012 askubuntu.com/questions/80178/… was helpful :)

aking1012

2 +1s

o/ @htorque

Takkat

@htorque Hi

htorque

Ask Ubuntu General Room: Awakening.

Takkat

almost yawns

aking1012

19:46

@htorque I like that it's a global community so it's almost always sort of awake

aking1012

19:56

@Mahesh I just rebooted and got a 403. It seems they won't disconnect you, but if you've left it playing on loop for hours, they'll block your IP at least for a while

htorque

@aking1012 yeah, but it can be a pain to communicate with timezones on the other side of the planet. :-)

aking1012

agreed

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