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TheWanderer

00:13

@terdon you here?

Seth

@TheWanderer perl?

TheWanderer

no

Spanish

the summer assignment used an abbreviation that was never explained

but I think I figured it out

soth

Seth

ah

TheWanderer

sooth

forsooth

sooforth

TheWanderer

00:44

foosorth

Nathan Osman

02:28

Friday... y u take so long to come?!?

TheWanderer

pls

friday means closer to school starting

shut ur faec

Nathan Osman

But that means one day closer to school finishing :P

You gotta look at the positive side.

TheWanderer

uh

I'm gonna be a senior

STRESSSSSSS

Nathan Osman

I am well aware of what stress is.

I hate to break it to you but it gets worse when you become an adult.

TheWanderer

then I'm probably going to have a few breakdowns

Nathan Osman

02:31

That's what I kept thinking.

TheWanderer

ha no

I've come very close quite a few times in HS

4 hours of homework expected a night

wheee..

Nathan Osman

Goes back to working on his IMAP server...

Nathan Osman

02:49

Someone needs CloudFlare... bosecornmaze.com

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman IMAP isn't that hard, wth are you doing lol

also lol bandwidth exceeded xD

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard You must have missed my sales pitch :P I'm writing an app that provides a mail server (local mailboxes and outbound SMTP), IMAP access for users, and webmail client. All rolled into one executable.

Thomas Ward

I've been busy sleeping because I need to regenerate energy levels sue me.

@NathanOsman that sounds like the preexisting mail in a box product though

Nathan Osman

But has anyone else rolled everything into a single executable?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman so this is a completely custom solution?

Nathan Osman

02:51

From scratch.

Also, it runs on Windows too.

Thomas Ward

cross platform?

Nathan Osman

Indeed.

Thomas Ward

open source or closed?

Nathan Osman

MIT license.

Thomas Ward

if you say 'closed' i'm going to say hire someone to do heavy duty code analysis for security :P

ah

Nathan Osman

02:52

Ambitious, eh?

I've already got SMTP working and IMAP is partially working. The webmail interface looks nice.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman until it's vetted by the universe as 'secure' I'll stick to Postfix + Dovecot + SpamAssassin + MailBOrder gateway, with a standard IMAP client :P

webmail adds its own risks after all

Nathan Osman

Fair enough. But look at Gogs - GitHub in a single binary.

So it can be done :D

Thomas Ward

it can be done but eh

yawns

i need caffeine... chugs the 2 liter of Mountain Dew next to him

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman how about my old MSI for $400?

bad outer condition, but you say you won't be moving it

naquan?

lol

schedules just came out for my school

it looks like we crashed the web server with the requests

we DDoSed our school xD

Breakfast Goat

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LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:33

@EliahKagan Hi

Eliah Kagan

Hi.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

:p

@EliahKagan Isn't it like (I guess) 3am in your city now?

Any idea how I can check whether there was a recent significant modification to my kernel via an update?

Eliah Kagan

12:34 am. I'll be going to sleep in a few minutes probably.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

all my VM's were working fine. And suddenly when turning on my laptop one of the next days, I got some errors related to the kernel when trying to turn them on

Eliah Kagan

You can check the changelog for the update. What release and kernel are you using?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:35

had to reinstall everything

$ uname -s -r
Linux 4.10.0-33-generic

$ uname -v
#37~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 11 14:07:24 UTC 2017

@EliahKagan

Eliah Kagan

For 16.04, that's an HWE kernel, right?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

@EliahKagan 16.04 is indeed a LTS

Eliah Kagan

On LTS releases you can use HWE kernels but you don't have to. You could be using either.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

@EliahKagan issue is that when googling for "changelog ubuntu kernels", I mostly get info about the kernels taht are being released rather than my own personnal one

Eliah Kagan

Well this method does get you a changelog for that kernel version:

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Q: Where is the changelog for Ubuntu kernels?

Where can I find the changelog between versions of the kernel released for Ubuntu 10.04? Note that I need to find the changelog for 10.04 from an 11.04 system, so if I have to, I can run a VM for this purpose. "Why do I need the kernel changelog?" you may ask. I need it because I'm going to p...

kernel

This is the one: changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/…

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:43

My guess is that some software I installed modified smth to my kernel, whihc is why I couldn't turn on my VM's

Eliah Kagan

It's the changelog for the Zesty package though. If you're using an HWE kernel, it's that one, just backported to Xenial. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean something else?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

@EliahKagan I mean the kernel which is now on my laptop.That specific one. I don't mean the kernel version of the kernel which is on my laptop

I will not find that info online

rather in a file on my own laptop

if that s possible

Eliah Kagan

I don't understand. Are you asking how to find out the history of what kernels you have installed in your Ubuntu system?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

@EliahKagan yes

well actually

not what kernels I installed, but what modifictaions I may accidentally have done to my kernel

Eliah Kagan

What kind of modifications are you talking about?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:47

@EliahKagan honnestly idk what modifs, I didn't read properly. I saw that when it was 4 am,ie 3 hours ago...

Eliah Kagan

I think more information will be necessary to get you an answer. Without knowing what sort of thing you changed, it's not really possible to say.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

I just saw virtualbox giving errors about the kernel, when I tried to modify its settings etc

Eliah Kagan

Do you have the instructions you followed?

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

ok nevermind it s not important. I need a rest :)

Eliah Kagan

Well I do have a couple general ideas.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:49

ok

which are...

Eliah Kagan

So, this is not really specific to your problem, which I don't know anything about, but you can check some logs in /var/log.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

/var/log/kern.log seems to be very close to what I need :)

Although I haven t read it into details yet

Eliah Kagan

I would check dmesg and kern.log. Depending on how far back the modifications go, you can look in the old (rotated) logs whose names start with kern.log. These don't tell you changes you've made to the kernel per se, but the messages may reveal problems, and they may also tell you what modules you have inserted or removed.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

@EliahKagan I already see a bunch of things about vbox in kern.log

thanks

Eliah Kagan

Well, I expect you might whether or not you have changed anything.

You can also look at what files exist in /boot.

LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

04:53

I m going to rest a bit

ttyl

thanks again

Eliah Kagan

If you've actually literally modified the kernel images.

No problem. I don't know that any of this will help, it's very general, but good luck!

I you can gather more information about what you may have changed, you may want to post a question on the main site. Anyway, either way, please feel free to ping me in chat. I don't know if I'll be available but if so I'd be glad to try to help out further. I'm usually in main chat too (I'm there right now, actually.)

Good night! :)

[Please feel free to disregard this.]

I know this isn't what you need, but in case it's ever helpful--and for the benefit of anybody else reading the chat log--the actual HWE changelog for that kernel is changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-hwe/…. Since you're looking for your own changes (or some kind) rather than the ones provided by the update, I don't expect this to help, but it corrects/improves the information I had given before that might be relevant to someone else.

Nathan Osman

06:12

Mining bitcoins with a CPU is completely pointless.

Know what's even more pointless?

Mining them by hand.

Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper

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LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn

lolz

He does however have a valid point:

Not surprisingly, this is a thoroughly impractical way to mine. One round of the algorithm takes 16 minutes, 45 seconds

It is a fairly long process. Some optimizations may be possible

Byte Commander

06:51

That's like RSA encryption by hand.

We did that in our university maths course.

Byte Commander

07:14

Uhm... someone trying to resurrect 7.10 (yes, seven point ten) askubuntu.com/q/951843/367990

Dɑvïd

Anybody awake? I just logged into my 17.10 work machine. It has dual monitors, and Ubuntu has decided not to recognize "Arrange Combined Display" settings. Pretty annoying! Is it "just me"? or has some update broken this setting?

Byte Commander

17.10 is not released yet. You should expect pre-release versions to be buggy.

Those are not really meant to be run in a production environment yet.

Dɑvïd

@ByteCommander True, but @Rinzwind was fairly confident ;)

And actually, it has been behaving quite well. And under my circumstances, was the best option available.

Byte Commander

/shrug

quality varies

Dɑvïd

@ByteCommander Also true. :) Just this morning it isn't recognizing the placement of primary and secondary monitors. I have them as [#2][#1], but I'm being shown them as if they were [#1][#2]. A bit weird. It will probably get "fixed" soon in any case.

Rinzwind

07:43

@ByteCommander 17.10 been using it for 1 month now ;-)

@Dɑvïd Should not be due to an update; last one was 2 days ago and the next one is likely to arrive later today :)

Byte Commander

How did they mess up the font in this question title/body? askubuntu.com/q/951853/367990 o.O???

Rinzwind

funky

Byte Commander

Holy WTF!

Rinzwind

must be related to chinese/japanese char set

Byte Commander

What did they do to dconf-editor in 17.04!!??

Rinzwind

07:58

@ByteCommander nothing? >:-)

Byte Commander

It looks completely different

now there is no longer a tree view

Rinzwind

:D

Byte Commander

I can bookmark locations now, which is nice, but I still want a tree

SAVE THE TREES!

Rinzwind

trees that do not produce oxygen are a waste of space :=)

AFSHIN

HI Dears

Byte Commander

08:08

I can spare those few bytes.

AFSHIN

I was just running some tests in my Windows10 WSL and did these, suddenly it stuck in loop and Prompt never back even when I did Ctrl+C it does close the bash window, I just recovered it after Uninstalling and Installing again but what is the problem with these commands I got from my history?

492 cd USER/
493 ls
494 mv test/ dir/
495 ls
496 mv test dir/
497 ls
498 cd dir/
499 ls
500 mv test/ dir

both test and dir are direcotories

after last command "mv test/ dir" it stuck in empty bash window

cl-netbox

11:28

Hello :)

Rinzwind

11:44

boxy!

cl-netbox

Rinzy ! :)

Everything fine @Rinzwind ? :)

Rinzwind

yeah got lucky y-day

cl-netbox

great ! :) what happened @Rinzwind ?

Rinzwind

12:04

Oh I play Neverwinter -> http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter
That game drops boxes with items you need to open with a key
Monday they introduced new boxes and people where bitching about only getting normal and rare items (where you also have epic and 1 legendary).

I opened 10 boxes this week, and got 7 rares _O-

Just for fun I gave away the 3 rares to random people :-XXXX

cl-netbox

Nice ! :)

Rinzwind

yeah. gonna sell those I got for tons of ingame cash :+)

rough estimate would be 25m astral diamonds (I now have just over 1m so ....yay me)

Byte Commander

yay you

Rinzwind

bytey!

yeah rep flowing in again in 1 answer >:-D

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12:39

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Q: E: Sub-process / usr / bin / dpkg returned an error code (1) Help me with this error

How can I solve this problem? root@ip-*******:/# apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. After this...

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Rinzwind

13:03

If you can't be helpful, go and troll another post — Starchild Banjaxed 1 min ago

I am a troll \o/

TheWanderer

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gracious1

13:54

@EliahKagan I upvoted your question. I see you already have an excellent answer.

Eliah Kagan

Yes -- muru answered the question fully.

TheWanderer

14:27

chilly today

Rinzwind

14:47

I have not seen him. Nor his other 554 versions :=)

TheWanderer

15:00

wat

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Q: Dual monitor confusion in Ubuntu Gnome 17.10

N.b. Since this is an issue on a machine running "Ubuntu +1 (alpha)", it's out-of-bounds on AskUbuntu, so I'm hoping for some help here. I encountered some odd screen behaviour this morning. I have been using Ubuntu Gnome 17.10 (alpha2) for a couple weeks now quite happily, with primary monitor ...

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TheWanderer

15:26

huh

Thunderbolt 3 uses USB-C

snazzeriffic

I wonder why the specsheet doesn't mention the Thunderbolt port

Android Dev

15:46

@TheWanderer Maybe it's just a proprietary protocol using an open standard

TheWanderer

no it's actually USB-C

Android Dev

Uh

Thunderbolt 3 == USB-C ?

you're saying they're literally the same thing?

TheWanderer

dunno

Android Dev

O_o

then what are you saying?

TheWanderer

dunno

Android Dev

15:49

O_o

hue

Seth

16:32

they're not the same thing.

USB type-C != thunderbolt. It doesn't even equal USB.

Type C is purely a hardware standard.

Android Dev

16:53

@Seth @NathanOsman Have you guys seen this? Half the people didn't even point to Asia! And one pointed to Canada! Wow. Just wow.

Byte Commander

seen it

they should pay the country a visit

Android Dev

I wonder what they would do if you asked them where Lichtenstein is

Seth

@AndroidDev yes.. but it's important to realize their camera team might spend the entire day asking people that question, they only pick the ones they want.

Byte Commander

Liechtenstein.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander lol, that was autocorrect :D

Byte Commander

16:56

actually officially it's even "Principality of Liechtenstein" to be exact

Android Dev

@Seth well yeah of course, I'm sure for everyone who didn't know where it was they had 25 who did, but still... Canada! I mean really?!

Byte Commander

There you see how much US people know about the neighbours they love so much

Android Dev

There's another video where people take a chocolate bar over a silver bar worth $70

And the host even offered to take it to a shop to verify it wasn't fake

But then ask any of those people what movie some actor was in and they all know the answer

@Seth hmm well not sure how accurate this is, but washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/09/…

Byte Commander

Well, who needs silver these days...

Maybe one time the minerals you'll find in a future chocolate bar might be more valuable than that.

E.g. North Korean chocolate with traces of uranium...

Android Dev

lol

gracious1

17:05

Yum. I can see the commercials now....

Android Dev

They can get Americanium-243 or whatever it is from a smoke detector

Byte Commander

"Our chocolate makes your smile ~~radiate~~ shine bright all day"

oh well, going to drive home now. bbl

Android Dev

You know the backlights in some old watches used Radium

gracious1

When did the Washington Post get conservative?

@AndroidDev That is really scary that Americans can't find the country on a map. :(

Apparently I am smarter than the average cat.

American cat, that is. Probably merely on par with average European cat. :p

Android Dev

@gracious1 well I'm American and I know where it is :D

gracious1

17:24

That makes two of us, then. We should go on national TV. :D

Seth

That would be too realistic.

gracious1

@AndroidDev I knew about those watches. The workers who used to paint the radium onto the dials were called "Radium girls". They became so radioactive you can make a geiger counter go crazy standing over their graves. :/

Radium Girls

The Radium Girls were female factory workers who contracted radiation poisoning from painting watch dials with self-luminous paint. Painting was done by women at three different sites in the United States, and the term now applies to the women working at the facilities. The first, United States Radium factory in Orange, New Jersey, beginning around 1917, at Ottawa, Illinois, beginning in the early 1920s, and a third facility in Waterbury, Connecticut. The women in each facility had been told the paint was harmless, and subsequently ingested deadly amounts of radium after being instructed to "point...

TheXed

I live about 40 miles from Ottawa Illinois...maybe I will become a radium girl too....

gracious1

@ByteCommander We could also eat radiated butter

@TheXed Don't forget your radium make-up... ;-)

TheXed

The interesting thing is they didn't mention westclox...

gracious1

17:37

TheXed

Nice...

gracious1

18:40

For that lovely glow...

Thomas Ward

random high pitched wailing happens

gracious1

You must have been using your radium toothpaste.

Android Dev