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edwinksl

19:00

lul

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman we can also make dynamic links that either open a specific section of the app or open a web page if the app isn't installed

Nathan Osman

Yup.

Deep links or something, right?

jokerdino

Maybe if we can chip in with a few downvotes, we can help Rinz.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman Dynamic Deep Links yes

Firebase is really cool

Nathan Osman

I don't think that's terribly useful in our case.

There isn't really anything to link to...

TheWanderer

19:02

yeah

but it reminded me to look into making chat links open in our app

Rinzwind

@jokerdino now you are talking

plus we also have U+L. That rep is useless anyways so can be used for dv;s too

jokerdino

SeemsGood

Zanna

hmm can't waste too much on U&L, don't want to lose edit privs

terdon

@Rinzwind Oh yeah?

Just because you have no breadth of knowledge is no reason to brag! :P

@Zanna heh, true. I have 2,242 on U&L though.

TheWanderer

ono

terdon

19:16

And (egad!) 1028 on Super User.

TheWanderer

should be 1024

terdon

Damn. If only I'd stopped 4 answers ago.

Zanna

@terdon so I could lose all my rep downvoting them!

terdon

@TheWanderer Yeah :)

TheWanderer

DELETE

Seth

19:17

terdon

@Zanna Ha! Yes. Try it! Then we can find out if vote reversal also restores the rep of the downvoter!

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman darn it, we'd need SE to add a file to the chat hosts to intercept the links

terdon

@Seth Awwww :( But they're good ones!

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer links to what?

Zanna

@terdon haha is that unknown?

TheWanderer

19:18

@NathanOsman chat.stackoverflow.com for example

terdon

@Zanna I'm sure it's known, I just don't know off the top of my head.

TheWanderer

like if someone tapped a chat link in Chrome

Zanna

I'm always willing to participate in research

Nathan Osman

Of course.

We don't control the domain.

TheWanderer

blegh

terdon

19:19

@Zanna Careful. I'm a biologist currently working on genomic variants in humans. Don't tempt me :P

Zanna

hahaha I don't think serial downvoting a mod for science would work out all that well for me either

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman did you install the latest version of the app?

Nathan Osman

Not yet!

TheWanderer

you should

so I can spam you with notifications

:D

Seth

@terdon I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, I'm not that worried about it ;p

Zanna

19:22

I need 4 more points on SF&F to get it to appear on my flair... need to think of a question!

terdon

@Seth I'm sure you're not! :)

Seth

@Zanna I don't have an account there.

terdon

On the other hand, one of those 294 has a score of 411 which is pretty impressive!

Seth

@terdon haha, yeah, that one blew up xD

it's still getting upvotes..

Android Dev

I updated it and got this: `Error:Execution failed for task ':app:processDebugGoogleServices'.
> File google-services.json is missing. The Google Services Plugin cannot function without it.`

TheWanderer

19:29

uh lemme push that

there

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Mmmkay, I don't really see any new features

TheWanderer

hang on

close the app

Android Dev

OK

Done

TheWanderer

you get the notification?

Android Dev

Yeah

TheWanderer

19:33

that's the new feature

Android Dev

Neat! How did you implement it?

TheWanderer

what's your Gmail? I should probably add you to the Play Console and Firebase

@AndroidDev it's Firebase. Pretty great

Android Dev

@TheWanderer But we still need a server to monitor the chat room, no?

TheWanderer

yeah

Nathan has plans

Android Dev

So the server monitors when the phone is off?

TheWanderer

19:35

idk

Android Dev

But the phone will monitor when the app is open?

TheWanderer

oh, yeah

FCM only shows the notification when the app is in the background

Android Dev

Ah

@TheWanderer Here's my question though. Nathan wants to precompile the go binary and communicate with it through an HTTP interface. I currently have it working just using the API directly. Either way, we'll need native code. So what benefit do we get from an HTTP interface?

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev I don't know lol

Android Dev

Wanna give my APK a quick try?

TheWanderer

19:39

yeah sure

Android Dev

Ok one sec let me upload it

Hurry up Gradle :D

TheWanderer

lol

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Ok, here you go: drive.google.com/file/d/0B-V1bipqDdfkY0JDSXFKOWIybGM/…

After you hit the HUETOYOU button, it will freeze for like 1.5 seconds

(I am running too much on the UI thread)

Shame on me, I know lol

Make sure you get your login credentials right, it will fail silently

terdon

What are you guys making?

Android Dev

@terdon Well, it will hopefully be an Android client for SE chat at some point

@TheWanderer You might want to have logcat open to troubleshoot if it doesn't work

Where'd you go? :P

TheWanderer

19:51

sry

getting distracted with intents

Android Dev

@TheWanderer I see you sent me a test push notification :D

And you just send another...

TheWanderer

yeah I'm testing making it open the chat with the specified URL

if it exists (which it should)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

yawns loudly . . . hi guys !

TheWanderer

whoa long time no see

Byte Commander

Sergiy!

Android Dev

19:55

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Hi, it's been a while!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Looks like ya'll missed me and my fish puns :p

Android Dev

@TheWanderer So did it work?

Byte Commander

nuuu

;-P

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev still workin on it

will push and try your app when I get it

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Yeah, been like a week, I was mostly trying to figure out relationship stuff and getting blacklisted by people. I was answering here and there though

Android Dev

19:57

@TheWanderer I now have 5 "test" notifications :P

TheWanderer

o_O

lolol

Android Dev

BTW my app is getting all of these messages :)

TheWanderer

heheheh

Android Dev

Maybe I should upload a screenshot

Hmm, it doesn't seem to like apostrophes.

@TheWanderer Have a look --^

TheWanderer

nice UI :p

looks cool though

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

20:01

@NathanOsman Have you noticed that the stackoverflow tag for golang has the gopher on it ?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

They (the Golang people) sponsored the tag.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman You are an expert lurker!

Uh-oh....

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Fancy. I wish there was one like that for Python

Android Dev

nvm

Lol, @TheWanderer it has captured so many messages now that I have to scroll down to see the new ones :D

Byte Commander

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy ^ python tag

Android Dev

20:04

Hahaha

Hrrmmmm...

I wonder if there's a way to implement automatic scrolling

@TheWanderer Should we steal some of the UI code from an open-source messaging app so we don't have to write it ourselves?

TheWanderer

uh idk

ask @NathanOsman

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

So . . . I'm going to be working 1 PM to 9 PM on Tuesdays and Thursdays this summer. There's gonna be plenty of time for procrastination , lel

or for answering stuff. I still want my bash gold badge

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Interesting, I just got your push notification even though the device was asleep

TheWanderer

that's how they work

Android Dev

@TheWanderer But does that mean the CPU will always be on?

TheWanderer

20:18

idk

Android Dev

@TheWanderer So did my app work?

TheWanderer

still not done

Android Dev

Ok

gtg; I'll check back in bit

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

20:39

Anybody has an idea for some sort of statistics project for Linux ? Like . . .what can I compute for a system

TheWanderer

WHOO

Nathan Osman

21:01

Annoying thing #194: projects with inconsistent indentation.

TheWanderer

:>

I like that IntelliJ does auto indent for pasted code

Nathan Osman

So does Qt Creator.

TheWanderer

and in other news @NathanOsman the version I just pushed to GH will open the corresponding chat on notification tap if the chat exists in the app (which it should)

so if you build and install the latest version, and I send out a test notification with the AUGR URL, it should select the AUGR tab if you have it added

you'll only get the notification with the tab closed though

app closed

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

TheWanderer

pls

sergo

u want to try app

ugh we're gonna have to make an actual notification area too

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

21:12

@TheWanderer what app ? I already have System UI Tuner installed.

TheWanderer

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy @NathanOsman, @AndroidDev and I are working on an SEChat app

doesn't really do much atm

Nathan Osman

It will soon make breakfast in bed tho.

TheWanderer

ooo

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

As long as it let's me ping @TheWanderer with random pictures, that's all I care for

TheWanderer

lol pls

sergo wat is email

Android Dev

21:15

@TheWanderer Speaking of which, have you tried my APK yet? :P

TheWanderer

nu

lel

Android Dev

:(

shrug

TheWanderer

oh there it is

hmmmm

oh my god

that alert sound is startling

it won't send messages for me @AndroidDev

I think my credentials are right

Nathan Osman

21:36

I had the weirdest dream last night involving Comcast. (Which is strange because I live in Canada...)

There was this stage and they were trying to promote some new cellular service.

It was weird.

Seth

@NathanOsman .. they just got a new cellular service o_O

Android Dev

@TheWanderer That version doesn't send. It only receives. I accidentally broke the send functionally :D

Nathan Osman

@Seth Now this dream is creepy.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman I hate comcast....

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev scrub

Nathan Osman

21:38

@AndroidDev I'm sure I would too if I lived in the US.

Everything I've heard about them is terrible.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Their speedtest shows 200Mbps. Google's speedtest shows 30Mbps. See any problems there?

I bet they cheat by detecting when you're running a speedtest

And then boost that traffic to the highest priority level

Nathan Osman

The VW emissions trick? :P

Android Dev

Yeah

@TheWanderer My question though: do you still hear the chime when you're looking at another app? (Assuming that you don't swipe it from the recent drawer)

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev didn't test

Android Dev

@TheWanderer I put it into a background service, and it seemed to work for me.

TheWanderer

21:44

thiketnheth

wait do I need to lg in to get messages?

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Yeah

TheWanderer

pls

plrin

yup ding

eck

Android Dev

So it works?

TheWanderer

jarring but yes

goubg

Android Dev

You don't like the alert sound?

We can fix that easily enough :)

@TheWanderer Ahem... --^

TheWanderer

21:46

hue

@NathanOsman so here's a question

if the user doesn't have that chat added when the notification comes in, should we add the tab?

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Wait, we're going to have the server monitor every single room for pings?

TheWanderer

it seems so

idrk

Android Dev

Uh

TheWanderer

I mean, can't @NathanOsman's API do that?

Android Dev

I'd suggest only monitoring the ones that the user has set up tabs for

@TheWanderer I don't think so?

TheWanderer

21:49

hmm

Android Dev

Gah! More push notifications! :P

TheWanderer

yeh

was testing bundled notifications which we don't have

Android Dev

"Huendroid"?

TheWanderer

hue

Android Dev

"AUGR"?

TheWanderer

21:50

AU General Room

Android Dev

Ah

Okay, so terrible UI and non-existent error handling, but a good start @TheWanderer, no?

TheWanderer

oui

but how do we combine

Android Dev

Well, it would be easier if I knew how to replicate the module setup in the example project... I can't figure out how they did.... the documentation is terrible...

But anyways, if I can figure out how they did it, then the merge should be trivial

TheWanderer

22:24

@NathanOsman firebase.google.com/docs/cloud-messaging/http-server-ref

terdon

@AndroidDev Please don't tell me you just created Windows!

8

edwinksl

sick burn terdon

terdon

22:43

:P

TheWanderer

23:04

@NathanOsman is it legal to make people pay for this service though?

since it's not our IP?

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy pls email

thx

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

can i delete ?

TheWanderer

yehs

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Aaaand gone. Not like I'm too bothered having my email out, but still. I already have plenty of spam there

TheWanderer

oke u be added

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer It's a service - they're paying us for using our server resources.

TheWanderer

23:08

OK

@NathanOsman did you get my Fabric invite?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer added where ? spam list ?

Nathan Osman

Wat is it?

TheWanderer

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy yehs

hang on @SergiyKolodyazhnyy

@NathanOsman crash analytics

but we can add the other types too if we want

Nathan Osman

Google Play already feeds us those.

TheWanderer

23:09

it also has something called Stripe which can manage payments

@NathanOsman I know, but these I think are more detailed

Nathan Osman

I am familiar with Stripe :P

TheWanderer

well good

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer More detailed than a stack trace...?

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman I think it tells us more detailed demographics

idk that's why I'm trying it

Nathan Osman

We don't want to spy on users.

Do we really need all that?

I think that's going to reflect negatively on our app...

TheWanderer

23:10

it's Google's stuff

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

The fact that I sleep basically nothing and the fact that the lab is kinda cool and quiet, with only air conditioning and 60Hz hum, makes me really really wanna pass out right now

TheWanderer

we could remove the analytics, but I think we should try Stripe

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy opt in play.google.com/apps/testing/com.huetoyou.chatexchange

@NathanOsman it looks like it's basically the same as the Play Console, but with a better IAP method

also virtual device tests

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer ...are included in the Google Play Console.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman but they're pretty useless there

most of the virtual devices they gave me for SystemUI Tuner aren't even compatible

and never were

sorry sergo

there was an NPE in the app

rolling out fix

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

23:27

No ide what is NPE . . .also i did pass out

TheWanderer

NullPointerException

LOL THAT FLAG

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

golden

TheWanderer

>_>

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Ah . . . Also, I find it funny that Java, the language that doesn't have pointers as datatypes, throws Null Pointer Extension

TheWanderer

hue

Seth

23:30

everything is pointers on the backend

TheWanderer

you're a pointer on the backend

Seth

dabs

TheWanderer

>_>

@NathanOsman BAN @Seth PLS

Nathan Osman

Bans Seth.

TheWanderer

thx

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23:54

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Q: Ubuntu all vhosts in one file

In all instructions I found to setup vhost on ubuntu lamp you need to create new vhost conf file for each vhost. Can I declare all my vhosts in one single file and what I need to do for it?

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