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cl-netbox

17:05

@Gendarme I read your question and have to say that everything is well explained in the vmware documentation you provided ... but if you don't have much experience with virtualization technology, you might better start with ORACLE VirtualBox, which is a more easy and user friendly application to start with ... an alternative would be to use KVM / qemu, which is a bit more professional orientated solution. :)

Alex

@terdon a colleague sent me another command that works, I just wanted to find out why the one I used didnt work since it is supposed to be correct. but time is almost over so I need to hurry, so I will skip this

@terdon thanks a lot for your help anyway

terdon

@Alex It didn't work because your file isn't as you say it is. What was the command that worked?

Alex

cat file | awk -F";" '{printf"%s V.Sob.=%s\n",$4,$9}'| grep 'V.Sob.=0'

basically it printed the values from the 9th column and then used grep to get just the ones that were zero

terdon

Um. That does something completely different from what you asked.

And you still don't need the cat, but never mind.

And it's looking for cases where the 9th field is 0, not the 2nd.

But OK.

Seth

anyone know of a way to export markdown as a PDF that actually supports horizontally scrolled text? So far every converter I've tried just cuts the text off if it goes beyond the page limits.

Alex

17:17

well, yes, but you just have to replace $2 with $9

when I asked initially, I wanted to make it simplier so I used just two columns

in the real case, the column one is actually the forth and the column 2 is the nineth

terdon

OK, free tip. Next time, when you ask for help don't "simplify" in such a way that makes the help irrelevant.

Alex

but the result is the same, except that in this one it shows the values from the nineth column as well

terdon

Your simplification completely changed what you were asking so you wasted your time (and mine) trying to get the wrong command to work.

Alex

but it doesn't work by just changing "$2" for "$9"? would it be the same command?

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe I'm here now \o/

Kaz Wolfe

17:27

hi

and i just got back.

import java.io.File;

public class StrangeError {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        try {
            File workingDirectory = new File("C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\\VC");
            File batchFile = new File(workingDirectory + "vcvarsall.bat");
            ProcessBuilder processBuilder = new ProcessBuilder(
                    "cmd", "/c", batchFile.toString(), "amd64", "&& set"
            );
            processBuilder.directory(workingDirectory);
            System.out.println("Command:" + processBuilder.command() + "\nDirectory: " + processBu…

just curious, what happens if you do that?

Nathan Osman

Gimme a sec. to try it.

Why is process.waitFor() commented out?

Seth

So.. I've got homework that contains code, quotes, and several different headings. The instructor kinda wants it in a word document but that's just disgusting for anything with code. I was using markdown but converting it to a nice looking PDF is a huge pain. Does this seem like a problem for LaTeX? I don't really know anything about it..

Kaz Wolfe

sorry.

replace the commented with this.

Thomas Ward

hands @NathanOsman a link

Kaz Wolfe

Process process = processBuilder.start()
process.waitFor();

Nathan Osman

17:34

I think there's an error...

>java HelloWorld
Command:[cmd, /c, C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VCvcvarsall.bat, amd64, && set]
Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC

Maybe '+' should be ','

Then it appears to work.

But I will need to confirm.

Then we'll need to see what made the difference.

Kaz Wolfe

also, you'll need to add a slash in between VC and vcvarsall

so new File(workingDirectory + File.separator + "vcvarsall.bat")

Nathan Osman

I just did new File(workingDirectory, "vcvarsall.bat");

However, once I capture the output, I get this printed to stderr:

Error:
  'C:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
  operable program or batch file.

Maybe it needs quoting...

Nope - even quoting it didn't work.

This is so strangely peculiar.

I'll see if Go exhibits this behavior on the same machine.

Rinzwind

17:53

sorry Nathan but you do need quoting. or escaping the space

Nathan Osman

@Rinzwind Still doesn't work with quoting though...

Rinzwind

then maybe you need something in front of the c:\,,,,, a command?

RolandiXor

18:06

nobody move

rolandixor has frozen the room

it is highly effective, apparently

Nathan Osman

Even Git hates me.

RolandiXor

O.o

What did it do?

Nathan Osman

Never mind - I haz a typo.

RolandiXor

lol

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman any opinions about my python-only package?

Nathan Osman

18:19

@KazWolfe I think Java is at fault somewhere here. It works in Go.

@ThomasWard Right. I'll take a look.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman You're doing something completely different there.

Try separating out each argument in your Java code and see what it does.

Or just use Go because you can't stop finding excuses to hate on Java.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman No rush. Documentation is missing right now but i'm lazy :)

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe I must use Java - this is for a Jenkins plugin.

@KazWolfe I didn't do that?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman No.

Nathan Osman

How do I do that then?

Kaz Wolfe

18:21

same way you did it in Go.

"cmd",
		"/c",
		"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\\VC\\vcvarsall.bat",
		"amd64",
		"&&",
		"set",

RolandiXor

@KazWolfe Java deserves all the hate it can get though...

Kaz Wolfe

@RolandiXor Nobody hates on Objectiv-C and that is objectively a worse language.

RolandiXor

@KazWolfe I do...

Kaz Wolfe

Java is fine if you know what you're doing and don't follow the idiotic agile design principles of making literally everything into interfaces.

Nathan Osman

ProcessBuilder(
            "cmd",
            "/c",
            "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\\VC\\vcvarsall.bat",
            "amd64",
            "&&",
            "set"
        ).start()

Like so?

Kaz Wolfe

18:23

yep

Nathan Osman

K.

I'll give 'er a shot.

Kaz Wolfe

if that doesn't work, add escaped quotes to the beginning and end

Nathan Osman

...of just the .bat file path?

Kaz Wolfe

yep

RolandiXor

Wth reddit?

Clearly, I'm not cut out for the place where all the cool kids are.

I literally posted just one comment before this.

Kaz Wolfe

18:26

post more or not fast.

Nathan Osman

Doesn't work: paste.ubuntu.com/24362367

Does Java really hate me that much?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman You using an IDE or no? (I'm willing to run this in my IntellIJ IDEA IDE)

Nathan Osman

It must be run on Windows and you need VS2015 installed.

But I am sure it runs in IntelliJ.

I am just doing javac/java from the terminal / command line.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman error?

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe No error. It just hangs.

Kaz Wolfe

18:29

what does your debugger say?

Nathan Osman

Lemme find out...

Also, it actually seems to work without the waitFor()... but... I'm not sure how that works with the output...

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman unrelated to your thing, I've got my own little script I can run to upload my package to PyPI heh

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard one thing I noticed, since this is for imaplib, shouldn't it be in requirements.txt?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman probably, but imaplib is part of the standard Python libraries

it doesn't exist in PyPI

Nathan Osman

/facepalm

Right.

Never mind, carry on :P

Thomas Ward

18:34

as I understand the requirements files, if it's in the standard libraries, it doesn't need to go into the requirements doc.

It needs the typing module because of Python 2/3 Type checking compat.

but that's it.

Nathan Osman

Is this line a typo? github.com/teward/imaplibext/blob/master/setup.py#L22

Thomas Ward

yep.

fixed in VCS.

Nathan Osman

So the Python looks good, but you don't need these lines in the _imaplibext.py file since they are already in __init__.py.

Thomas Ward

indeed. at one point i didn't have an init :P

also fixed in VCS.

@NathanOsman anything else I've missed?

Nathan Osman

Not that I see offhand.

Unit tests will help though :D

At the very least, they can catch typos preventing the module from importing.

Thomas Ward

18:48

True, got a suggestion for how I should write the testsuite? Actually testing the module would require an external mail server.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe So I fired up WinDbg and I... er... can't figure out how to make it tell me where the process is stuck. I do have this process tree though:

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman that suggests that batch script is hung

and you've confirmed the .bat works on its own?

Nathan Osman

A hundred times.

I can run the exact same invocation of "cmd /c ..." in Go.

Thomas Ward

Java is evil isn't it :P

Nathan Osman

But Java starts coughing, begins choking, and dies in a dramatic fireball.

Thomas Ward

18:52

@NathanOsman so what do you suggest I do for a test suite, basically try the import statement if it succeeds, then great, otherwise fail hard?

Nathan Osman

That would be a good start.

Let me check my modules...

Yeah, tests.py with just the import would work.

Then add test_suite='tests', to the setup.py file.

Thomas Ward

tests.py in the VCS root, or in the package's folder?

Nathan Osman

VCS root.

Thomas Ward

i can probably write a unittest to confirm SSL IMAP and non-SSL IMAP both work...

Thomas Ward

19:08

@NathanOsman what do you think about this? gist.github.com/teward/79dcdac64a950ffda8feecc4132ff1e6

Assuming that I point at a valid 'test' mail server

(not my actual one heh)

Nathan Osman

Looks good but I wouldn't even bother with the try since the test suite should catch it anyway.

Thomas Ward

so any exception will trigger a testsuite failure?

the reason I want the 'try' is I want a 'clean' failure not traceback from a connection failure :P

Nathan Osman

Can't remember what the default tester does for exceptions.

But IIRC, it is designed to handle exceptions as failures.

Thomas Ward

yeah it did

so i'll pull out the trys, though now I need to write testsuites for the other cases. So I'll need a test mailserver lol

Nathan Osman

I think the Python standard library has one..

Thomas Ward

19:21

the other cases being the commands themselves. Though, I know they work because I've hand-tested.

@NathanOsman complete with message sets?

Nathan Osman

When did Google start doing this?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman Eternity

RolandiXor

Long time now.

Nathan Osman

Breadcrumbs for searches?

First time I've seen it.

RolandiXor

Oh the breadcrumbs - that's recent.

Nathan Osman

19:22

Interesting.

If I click "windows" it switches the search to "list of windows debugger".

RolandiXor

Sweet

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard Lemme check.

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman I'm 100% certain the answer there is 'no', so it may just be prudent for me to spin up an IMAP server that goes nowhere here at my location, forward ports, and then have fun lol.

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard Sorry, I was wrong. Python has an SMTP server, not IMAP.

Thomas Ward

yeah that's what i thought

Nathan Osman

19:24

:P

There are third-party packages that have one though.

github.com/scanner/asimap

Thomas Ward

yeah, well, i'd rather just setup a test server. But eh.

RolandiXor

Grrr....

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman I'd be happy with it just erroring TBH lol

RolandiXor

I created a docker droplet - and it won't allow any connections.

Weird.

It's not even loading if I use the IP address.

Thomas Ward

though I've got fail2ban on that mailserver so if they actually try to auth and fail, that's a problem heh

@RolandiXor NAT.

docker bridge.

chaos incarnate.

RolandiXor

19:27

?

Thomas Ward

PITA to get working right. Is your docker 'droplet' binding the docker containers to ports on localhost like it should be?

RolandiXor

It's digital ocean, preconfigured, etc... It should be working

Thomas Ward

heh

does the docker droplet have SSH :P

or anything listening, rather?

RolandiXor

yes

Thomas Ward

Firewall's not blocking conns?

RolandiXor

19:28

No firewall enabled

Only thing I did since setting up was to install collabora office

I'll try setting up from scratch

I must have made a mistake along the way.

Kaz Wolfe

So... how many engineers does it take to stock a fridge?

Zanna

so strange... askubuntu.com/questions/903279/ubuntu-16-04-boots-in-tty-mode

RolandiXor

@KazWolfe none

Kaz Wolfe

@RolandiXor Wrong. Three: One to open the Jira and do work, another to help with the JIRA subtask, and one to manage scrum and mark the Jira as resolved.

RolandiXor

@KazWolfe lol

None: because they create a robot to do it for them :)

TheXed

19:33

@KazWolfe depends on what kind of beer they are stocking it with...could range from 0 to infinite...

RolandiXor

@TheXed is this cold beer?

TheXed

@RolandiXor who buys warm beer?

RolandiXor

Then the fridge will never be stocked :>

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor What happened with Docker?

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman it didn't work :(

Nathan Osman

19:34

What did you do?

TheXed

@RolandiXor @NathanOsman what kind of phone should I buy?

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed OnePlus

TheXed

@KazWolfe already have one.

RolandiXor

I set up a droplet running docker on Ubuntu 16.04, installed the letsencrypt certificate (or so I thought), and then installed Collabora Office. Then, when trying to set up the reverse proxy, I realized I couldn't find the letsencrypt cert! So, I tried seeing if I could fix that by installing the cert again, only to realize that it couldn't connect to the server at all!

@TheXed what do you want to do with it and what price range are you looking at?

Nathan Osman

@TheXed Yeah, wait for the OP5.

Kaz Wolfe

19:37

@Zanna I'll take it, I think I have an idea. :)

Zanna

@KazWolfe awesome

TheXed

@RolandiXor well if I could find one that had a comparable camera lens as my Lumia 950 I would pay a $1k for it...but probably 3-400

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor Yikes.

@TheXed *cough* DSLR *cough*

TheXed

@RolandiXor and it should do all the normal things that a smart phone does, and make phone calls..

Nathan Osman

@TheXed OP5 will make your breakfast for you.

TheXed

19:38

@NathanOsman I have a DSLR, but it is a bit big to fit in my pocket..

Nathan Osman

@TheXed Get a bigger pocket >:)

Seth

"I'm moving the go repos" "Be sure to change the source code, since the URLs are in there!" "…" Go packing sucks. It's so, so far behind.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM

TheXed

@NathanOsman "bigger" seems to be your solution to everything :-P

RolandiXor

@TheXed lol there are some pretty good options out there tbh

TheXed

I thought about the Galaxy S8...at&t is doing a buy one get one free deal right now...

for when they come out...

RolandiXor

19:40

@TheXed If you want a releatively good camera, don't care about OS updates, and still want a good price, then BLU has got you covered.

TheXed

@RolandiXor I had a Blu...wasn't overly impressed...

RolandiXor

Unlocked, dual SIM, and some good specs, for a low price - and lots of options.

@TheXed lol well, you are in America ;)

TheXed

But maybe they have gotten better...

RolandiXor

Here, we don't get the sea of (inexpensive, but good) options.

But, in my experience, their recent phones are pretty solid.

Almost all the pics on my instagram are from my BLU Vivo 5r, which is not even the top of the range.

TheXed

Nope, can't get the free S8, you have to sign up for direct tv too...

@RolandiXor which do look amazing BTW.

RolandiXor

19:42

Moto also has some good stuff at a low price.

@TheXed takes a bow

TheXed

Maybe I want a red iphone 7, in case I ever get lost I can be like "look for the red iphone!"

RolandiXor

LOL

TheXed

The problem is, I don't want to get a slower phone then my Lumia...other wise I will be disappointed and just go back to it...

Do I sound like a spoiled American or what?

RolandiXor

Lol yeah :D

Well trust me, my phone is pretty, pretty fast.... Yet cheap

If you go with a BLU or something similar from one of the up and coming companies (such as one of the Chinese phones), you won't be disappointed.

TheXed

Yeah I was looking at the specs...doesn't liik to bad actually...

RolandiXor

19:49

You'd be surprised how good some of the less well known brands are these days.

I've had about 15 apps open without noticing any lag.

TheXed

I just love everything about my Lumia, but the OS...

RolandiXor

Only time I run into lag is if I'm taking pictures in the noon-day sun - it doesn't like that (at all!)

TheXed

If I could flash Marshmellow to my Lumia would keep it lol

RolandiXor

@TheXed I could never understand why Nokia allowed Elop(-sided) to do that to them.

Meego was a game changer!

And then they just... killed it!

TheXed

@RolandiXor worse time of the day to take a picture anyways...

RolandiXor

19:51

@TheXed Not when you're doing macro shots :P

Best time of day :> (except for early evening when the sun is at just the right angle)

TheXed

@RolandiXor perhaps...

RolandiXor

If you catch the noon-day sun, you can get good macro shots without any extra light - but your phone will begin to choke and eventually need a reboot (because the camera app decides to quit and won't take severance pay).

TheXed

lol...

Kaz Wolfe

hey, @Zanna. Cool trick you might be interested in.

Zanna

oh yes?

RolandiXor

19:54

:>

Kaz Wolfe

sudo apt install --print-uris <package> - gives you the path to a package for manual downloads if you need to. (sudo is optional)

RolandiXor

Thanks fam!

Kaz Wolfe

what did i post that got removed?

oh.

RolandiXor

The second part of your message :)

I combined your messages into one so I could star them.

You're famous now.

TheXed

Who wants to go to the dentist for me?

RolandiXor

19:58

^--- that guy.

Nathan Osman

@Seth Except URLs aren't supposed to change.

Zanna

@KazWolfe that one doesn't need sudo (but is indeed an awesome command - I <3 APT)

TheXed

Wait, you can't redirect my question back to me, and make me the answer! that wasn't fair!

Kaz Wolfe

true...

RolandiXor

@TheXed I have god-powers! I can do whatever I want! (Within the confines of the law, God, and my fellow man, of course).

Zanna

19:59

bbl, ping if you need me

RolandiXor

@Anwar what problems have you encountered?

Seth

@NathanOsman yeah well that seems like a bad design choice.

I gotta admit.

Nathan Osman

@Seth If you don't have the URLs in the import, then you end up with the need for project files.

This is why you need a Makefile for C/C++.

And things like Maven for Java.

And requirements.txt for Python....

Seth

I guess that's true.

Nathan Osman

Go doesn't need any of that.

Everything you need is in the source file.

TheXed

20:07

welll okay I guess since their are no volunteers so I will go.

Nathan Osman

@Seth here's what W3C has to say: w3.org/Provider/Style/URI

Jacob Vlijm

20:19

Am I missing something? How is this on-topic? askubuntu.com/q/901418/72216

Kaz Wolfe

@JacobVlijm Same way general questions about Chrome or Firefox or LibreOffice are on-topic, I'd think.

If I remember right, we support software running on Ubuntu.

Jacob Vlijm

Huh? That is about software running on Ubuntu, this is just general stuff.

RolandiXor

This is one of those fringe cases where it's both on and off-topic depending on your personal view on the situation. It's not actually off-topic going by our help-center.

Thomas Ward

20:35

@NathanOsman well, CI tests succeeding are also a good thing.

it's not bad to include CI tests right?

Nathan Osman

Nope.

Android Dev

@TheWanderer - Another Ubantu sighting!

Thomas Ward

I can probably configure the CI on one of them to upload to PyPI but eh.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman - Which version of Android do you have on your phone?

Thomas Ward

@AndroidDev your answer to that PHP question was obsoleted by mine. Sorry I stole your thunder :P

Nathan Osman

20:45

@AndroidDev 7.1.

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Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

such a nice day outside and I'm basically energy-less

Android Dev

21:18

@ThomasWard No worries :)

@NathanOsman Would you be willing to test an APK for me?

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev Sure, is it that image one?

Android Dev

@ByteCommander So, will you ever write your meta rant?

Byte Commander

?

Android Dev

See the message it's replying to

Byte Commander

ah

no

I found my peace

Android Dev

21:24

:)

Byte Commander

WAAAATTT!!!???

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Yeah. I'll link you to the APK later this evening. I can see how it looks on my N7 2013, but I wanted to verify that it doesn't become completely screwed up on a small phone screen. Mostly, though, would like to know if it crashes when you try to pick a file on Android 7

@ByteCommander Yes....?

Byte Commander

My email provider blocked my IP address from logging in for remaining ~17.5h

WTH

Android Dev

@ByteCommander Hmmm... time to fire up a VPN

Thomas Ward

@ByteCommander they don't like you lolol

Byte Commander

21:29

Let's see what happens if I tell my router to reconnect...

Android Dev

Look at this before my edit: askubuntu.com/questions/903743/grub-file-problem

People really should preview their post before making it live...

Byte Commander

I hate DSlite

Ugh, that doesn't get me a new IPv4

Android Dev

Did you enter your password wrong too many times or something?

Byte Commander

No.

Thomas Ward

@ByteCommander hijacked computer maybe?

Byte Commander

21:33

I just started Thunderbird and it told me that authentication failed, which I retried 3 times maybe

But 17.5h

I guess that started with 24h initially

And 6.5h ago my computer was definitely off.

I guess my ISP's DSlite is to blame, which just gives me a shared IPv4.

Thomas Ward

lool

Byte Commander

no

Thomas Ward

you on a carrier-grade nat connection?

Byte Commander

not entirely sure what that means?

Android Dev

Okay, I'm forcing myself to get off the computer now... I have other things I need to do :)

Thomas Ward

21:36

@ByteCommander what IP does the router get? Is it in a private IP range or no?

Byte Commander

No, I have a personal public IPv6 and a shared public IPv4, I think.

DualStack lite

or... wait

IPv6 transition mechanism

An IPv6 transition mechanism is a technology that facilitates the transitioning of the Internet from the Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4) infrastructure in use since 1981 to the successor addressing and routing system of Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6). As IPv4 and IPv6 networks are not directly interoperable, transition technologies are designed to permit hosts on either network type to communicate with any other host. To meet its technical criteria, IPv6 must have a straightforward transition plan from the current IPv4. The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) conducts working groups and...

my public IPv4 address is 46.5.xxx.xxx

Thomas Ward

i didn't ask your public IPs, I asked what IP is assigned to your router. You can't have two devices with the same IPv4 address it breaks things

that's why I asked what ip your router is directly assigned for IPv4

Byte Commander

I think I don't see that

Thomas Ward

CGN then probably for the IPv4, it's how you get the shared IPv4

Carrier-grade NAT

Carrier-grade NAT (CGN), also known as large-scale NAT (LSN), is an approach to IPv4 network design in which end sites, in particular residential networks, are configured with private network addresses that are translated to public IPv4 addresses by middlebox network address translator devices embedded in the network operator's network, permitting the sharing of small pools of public addresses among many end sites. This shifts the NAT function and configuration thereof from the customer premises to the Internet service provider network. Carrier-grade NAT has been proposed as an approach for...

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Byte Commander

21:41

I only see an IPv6 address in my router panel, and for IPv4 it say just that Dual Stack lite is used via AFTR Gateway <URL>

Thomas Ward

@SmokeDetector gone

yeah yeah screw you too bot.

Byte Commander

yeah, the article reads like it fits

Nathan Osman

I am going to lose all my hair before this day is over.

I think I will just hack together a simple Win32 app to do everything in the script and see if that doesn't help.

Byte Commander

Removing Windows from your disk would be healthier than removing all your hair from your head - and less painful.

Seth

21:59

> Who else is afraid that DC will ruin the justice league like they ruined Batman v Superman?

dat burn

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

22:25

designing traffic light state machine is . . . difficult

TheXed

22:37

hi

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

hullo

TheXed

Hows it going?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

The IT is going. I'm not. I'm sitting on bench, smoking.

Gonna go into library soon to work on traffic light state machine design

TheXed

Cool, your in better shape then me...I can't feel the left side of my face again...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Ouch, what happened ?

TheXed

22:41

Finished getting my dental crown installed...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Finally over, huh ? I hate dental stuff. Even with anaesthetic it's just unpleasant

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy yup

But this should be it for a while...until I get my wisdom teeth pulled, which will be a year from now, becasue I maxed out my insurance with the crown

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I had my wisdom teeth pulled separately, left side first, then right side during surgery, because right side was such a mess that my dentist didn't wanna touch none of that and sent me to a dental surgeon

TheXed

Yeah I am going to a surgeon. but I only have 3 out of 4...

I am going to get them all done at once so I only have to be miserable once...maybe twice as miserable, but just once.

lol...my wife has gone insane...

Usually when I purchase things I run it by my wife first...because she manages the money...

So I am like can I buy this...

and I start explaining it to her with my best sales man pitch...

I didn't even get started and she is like "yes"...

She didn't ask me how much...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

lol, she probably doesn't wanna listen to all the tech explanation

WinEunuuchs2Unix

22:54

Hello all :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

You've good ethics though. +1 for that

@WinEunuuchs2Unix hi there

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Hey Serg how was the exam

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Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix bad, very bad

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Awww.... Sorry to hear that :(

TheXed

I know, but if I would have known, I would have just pulled up an actual macro lens...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

22:55

Maybe the score will be better than you feel right now.

TheXed

and been like can I buy one of these?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

The type of "I've studied whole day for this, but WTF is this ?"

TheWanderer

pretty colors

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I always used to study the night before... I was a very bad student until I hit college.

@TheWanderer If you want some ideas check out "ProjectM"

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer MY EYES

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