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terdon

15:00

@AndroidDev Well, SE do sometimes come back to old feature requests. For example, last week they implemented this

and this and other old ones.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed that's a given, of course. I agree. It's however unfair to place all blame and responsibility on drivers, and prefer driver as scapegoat all the time

#PedestriansCanBeDicksToo

terdon

@TheWanderer The cp should be irrelevant. It's the shell that expands the variables before calling cp.

TheWanderer

@terdon well that's the problem

BusyBox uses a different cp binary and shell afaik

terdon

Yes

But it should still be the shell that expands the variable.

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy #driverslivesmatter

terdon

15:05

That said, I would expect the busybox sh to use the standalone cp binary if one is present. Are you sure it doesn't?

Ah, no, scratch that. On my system, busybox sh uses its own cp, indeed.

But busybox cp has no -v option

~ $ cp --blah
cp: unrecognized option: blah
BusyBox v1.26.2 (2017-01-30 14:41:33 MSK) multi-call binary.

Usage: cp [OPTIONS] SOURCE... DEST

Copy SOURCE(s) to DEST

	-a	Same as -dpR
	-R,-r	Recurse
	-d,-P	Preserve symlinks (default if -R)
	-L	Follow all symlinks
	-H	Follow symlinks on command line
	-p	Preserve file attributes if possible
	-f	Overwrite
	-i	Prompt before overwrite
	-l,-s	Create (sym)links
	-u	Copy only newer files

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed #everybodys_lives_matter_except_for_Hitler_screw_that_guy

terdon

@TheWanderer call cp with its full path. Like this:

~ $ cp --version
cp: unrecognized option: version
BusyBox v1.26.2 (2017-01-30 14:41:33 MSK) multi-call binary.

Usage: cp [OPTIONS] SOURCE... DEST

Copy SOURCE(s) to DEST

	-a	Same as -dpR
	-R,-r	Recurse
	-d,-P	Preserve symlinks (default if -R)
	-L	Follow all symlinks
	-H	Follow symlinks on command line
	-p	Preserve file attributes if possible
	-f	Overwrite
	-i	Prompt before overwrite
	-l,-s	Create (sym)links
	-u	Copy only newer files
~ $ /sbin/cp --version
cp (GNU coreutils) 8.26
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

TheWanderer

busybox has a -v for cp

terdon

On my Arch it's /sbin/cp

TheWanderer

and yeah there's a problem

terdon

15:08

@TheWanderer Are you sure? How are you checking?

What does cp --version print?

TheWanderer

'/data/media/0/Zacharee1Mods/LGSystemUI.apk' -> '/system/priv-app//LGSystemUI.apk'

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy No Hitler was important too...evil...but important...we learned a lot of things not to do because of him...like letting one person try to take over the entire world and kill millions of people...

TheWanderer

@terdon because it lets me use it

if I do cp /source /dest it doesn't show anything

add the -v it shows the source and dest

terdon

@TheWanderer Yes, but how are you checking that it is using busybox cp?

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy even though Germany would like to erase him from history...

TheWanderer

15:09

@terdon because I'm running busybox cp

terdon

@TheWanderer How?

TheWanderer

in a terminal

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed -___- that's like a thingy that is kinda obvious, we don't need an example to know it's bad

I am at least hopeful humans are not stupid to that degree

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy but yet we ignored him....until he became a problem...and well killed millions of people...

TheWanderer

Should I try creating a mirror variable or something @terdon?

I just don't see why it's expanding it everywhere but there

terdon

15:10

@TheWanderer Yes. But why are you sure that that runs the busybox cp and not another binary?

TheWanderer

1|elsa:/ # busybox cp --version
cp: unrecognized option `--version'
BusyBox v1.26.2-Stericson (2017-01-14 16:15:58 PST) multi-call binary.

Usage: cp [OPTIONS] SOURCE... DEST

Copy SOURCE(s) to DEST

        -a      Same as -dpR
        -R,-r   Recurse
        -d,-P   Preserve symlinks (default if -R)
        -L      Follow all symlinks
        -H      Follow symlinks on command line
        -p      Preserve file attributes if possible
        -f      Overwrite
        -i      Prompt before overwrite

yes

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed yeah, that too. Big and bad mistake

TheWanderer

also, I don't have any other versions besides the built in one, and that has a completely different UI

terdon

@TheWanderer No. Note that there's no -v there.

TheWanderer

@terdon let me show you some outputs

TheXed

15:12

I mean we knew he was anti-semantic from the get go...it wasn't something he hid...and we embraced him with open arms...let him have the Olympics even!

TheWanderer

1|elsa:/ # busybox cp /sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk /sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk1
elsa:/ #

elsa:/ # busybox cp -v /sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk /sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk1
'/sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk' -> '/sdcard/LGSystemUI.apk1'
elsa:/ #

it's not listed, but it certainly works

terdon

@TheWanderer What do you get for busybox cp --version ?

TheWanderer

I ran it up there ^^^^

unrecognized option

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

sigh . . . I don't wanna drive in snow

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy get a snow blower...

terdon

15:13

@TheWanderer huh, yeah I see. I can reproduce it. So it looks like it might support -v but it's undocumented. Weird

TheWanderer

ack

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed and blow it all the way to downtown ? Nah, gonna take to long

TheWanderer

I made another variable, but it didn't expand...

terdon

@TheXed He was far from alone in that sentiment. Anti-semitism was the norm at the time.

TheWanderer

it's like anything after priv-app/ it just gives up

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

15:14

It's not too bad, it's just . . . . bleh

terdon

@TheWanderer strange. . .

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy lol, I can just imagine you pushing a snowblower mile after mile to get to where you need to be...

TheWanderer

except the APK is still fine

it's just the folder under priv-app

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed well, there's no snow on the road. It's actually all wet so far, but just . . .meh. I wanna stay at home and be cozy

TheWanderer

lol

TheXed

15:15

@terdon yes but he seemed to be especially anti-semantic...I mean the guy passed laws against them...and allowed the open and willful abuse against them...but then again I guess the US was doing the same to black people during this time period....

TheWanderer

I even added double slashes in to see what would happen

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy have a cup of hot cocoa...

TheWanderer

now it's just priv-app////LGSystemUI.apk

terdon

@TheXed Precisely.

Oh, and anti-semitic. Anti-semantic would be something very different :)

TheXed

typo....

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

15:17

@terdon @TheXed at that time whole lotta things were wrong. Hitler was just one of them. Especially imperialism and such. Even though I like a lot of Japanese things, Japanese nationalism has led to whole lot of murder in Asia during that time.

terdon

@TheWanderer What is? Can you show me a specific example? Including the setting of the variable?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Anywho, let's switch topics . . .

how about my new indicator ?

terdon

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Oh yes. Japan was simply atrocious at the time. No argument there.

TheWanderer

IF_G5=$(printf '%s\n' "$1" | sed 's/G5//g')

echo "$IF_G5"

echo " "
busybox mount -vo rw,remount /
busybox mount -vo rw,remount /system

echo " "
busybox cp -v /data/media/0/Zacharee1Mods/"$1".apk /system/priv-app/$IF_G5/"$IF_G5".apk
busybox chmod -v 0644 /system/priv-app/"$IF_G5"/"$IF_G5".apk

that's the code

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy you are right, we need to stop talking about snow.

TheWanderer

15:17

$IF_G5 works fine in chmod

terdon

@TheWanderer Yes. Can you give a simple example that I can just run? You said you tried with something simple and it didn't expand. I can't test the code you gave since it all depends on what $1 is.

TheWanderer

LGSystemUI

oops

hang on

there's a typo in that copy

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Also, who knows here about giving proper attribution in licenses ?

TheXed

the ironic thing is...we never got rid of Emperor Shōwa...and in his later years he ended up being a pretty decent world leader...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I need halp in that department

TheWanderer

15:19

@terdon copy the script again

terdon

@TheWanderer I don't wanna :) That's what I'm telling you. Forget the script, run something simple directly in the shell.

TheWanderer

well I know that works fine

if I run busybox cp -v /data/media/0/Zacharee1Mods/LGSystemUI.apk /system/priv-app/LGSystemUI/LGSystemUI.apk it works fine

terdon

@TheWanderer Yes, but if you run it using the variable instead? What happens then?

TheWanderer

how do I do that?

terdon

@TheWanderer Just run the commands in the command line.

TheWanderer

15:22

oh really?

one at a time?

terdon

Yes, of course. That's all the script does.

TheWanderer

how do I set $1 though?

terdon

ff="LGSystemUI"
IF_G5=$(printf '%s\n' "$ff" | sed 's/G5//g')
busybox cp -v /data/media/0/Zacharee1Mods/"$1".apk /system/priv-app/$IF_G5/"$IF_G5".apk

Then try a different variable name. One that doesn't contain a _. Just in case.

TheWanderer

that worked fine

after replacing $1 with $ff :p

terdon

@TheWanderer OK. Add set -x at the beginning of your script and see what that gives you.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

15:25

@terdon do you know which site would be suitable for asking a question about giving attribution in code ?

terdon

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Open Source ?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

hmm, that might do it

TheWanderer

o_O

@terdon the cp command worked I think

but it's got a lot of verbose info

interesting....

actually no

userDepth

Reviews done

terdon

@TheWanderer Yes. That shows exactly what is being executed. Very useful tool.

TheWanderer

15:35

well it works in that context

alrighty then

if I cd to /system/priv-app/"$IF_G5"/ and then copy to "$IF_G5".apk it works

terdon

@TheWanderer I am starting to think this is android path weirdness. Maybe / resolves to different locations depending on where you are or something? In any case, it certainly doesn't seem like a general shell issue, so you might want to ask on Android Enthusiasts.

TheWanderer

I don't think that belongs there

terdon

@TheWanderer Hmm. They do say that development is off topic. Stack Overflow then, I guess.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@userDepth good job. Keep up the good service

userDepth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy XD

hack cat gotta netcat

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

15:52

gotta go drive

sigh, how am i late again ? i woke up at 4 am today

userDepth

Why is that ?

Seth

@terdon ahh, I think it does!

I've had weirdness with that before.

terdon

Yes, I think I've seen something like that too.

Kaz Wolfe

morning

Android Dev

Oh great, yet another "Ubunto"! askubuntu.com/questions/900145/…

It's not even pronounced that way, people!

userDepth

16:13

Potato, Poteyto welll done @KazWolfe

Kaz Wolfe

@userDepth @AndroidDev did the editing. I just altered tags and content slightly because KP

TheXed

Holy crap. Just looked at the forecast. They are calling for 3-6 inches here @SergiyKolodyazhnyy!

terdon

Yeah, we're expecting some crappy weather this week too:

That's <20 degrees Celsius tomorrow! In April!

I'll show myself out.

Rinzwind

16:29

Europeans should ignore images in Fahrenheit. They paint a picture that is incrementally too high in numbers.

terdon

@Rinzwind I switched it so I could make the freezing USians jealous.

Kaz Wolfe

As a USian, I really want us to get our stuff together and move to the metric system.

not happening

edwinksl

freedom units ftw

Kaz Wolfe

freedom units are bad units.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

16:51

@TheXed they say we're gonna have less than one inch but I've learned not to trust forecasts and expect more

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I am the exact opposite....6 inches but I have learned to expect less...much less...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@terdon @KazWolfe how about we just make Unity units ? something both US and the rest of the world can agree on ?

Kaz Wolfe

Because the US is moron.

And such a thing exists in the form of the Metric System.

TheXed

both freedom units and freedom fries are awesome...

Rinzwind

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy why? metric is based on real world facts.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

16:56

oh well. I am offering a compromise here. I do like metric units as engineering student,tho

TheXed

England started the imperial system anyways...

Rinzwind

The n00bs

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

itz all ze britiz phault

Rinzwind

and it already costs billions of dollars. several projects in space went bust cuz someone used imperial/metric when it was metric/imperial :P

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I do like inches, though. Fractional units are kinda nice. Fahrenheit doesn't make sense to me though

TheXed

16:58

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy agreed.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Rinzwind yeah it's a well known horror story in engineering circles

Rinzwind

we should tilt the earth 23 degrees and end all seasons. make every area the same temp all the time :+

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

this lady in front of my was looking at me somewhat judgmentally

probably didn't have enough coffee

Anybody wanna test drive my new indicator for WiFi bitrate ?

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I would if I had Ubuntu installed on my chromebook

What is the link? maybe when I get home I will install it.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

askubuntu.com/a/900074/295286 this

there's two indicators actually. One is combo of fossfreedom's indicator-sysmonitor , another is mine , custom

Aaand added Instagram link to my profile

Follow me if you want, guys

TheXed

17:14

cool

you have a LOT of posts on instygrammy!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

lol much post such story wow

I just started, so . . .yeah

TheXed

Some weirdo just requested to follow me...what to do...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

and i expect to post only "professional" content so yah

@TheXed send him beer. Maybe that'll help lol

#shamelessserg

TheXed

Uh sure...does he like light beers or dark beers I wonder...

or maybe he doesn't like beer at all...which I do not know...I see no pictures off beer on his instagram...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

he is apathetic to beer actually.

blue moon will do

TheXed

17:24

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I will not buy blue moon, even if it is just to give away...I will not torture another person by making them drink blue moon...

Nathan Osman

@Rinzwind Poor birds won't know when to fly south for the winter...

TheXed

@NathanOsman I think they have already given up trying to figure it out this year...

Kaz Wolfe

can confirm: my chickens are just staying here

Nathan Osman

Must. Resist. Political. Joke.

Kaz Wolfe

\o/ @ThomasWard

Thomas Ward

17:27

explodes

Nathan Osman

Django 1.11 released today.

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard And that, kids, is why you don't give a wolf access to the underlying fabric of spacetime.

3

On an unrelated note, I now have 17 Chrome tabs open across four screens.

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe and this is why ClamAV is evil: > 800MB RAM usage idle, which moves a ton of stuff to swap.

actually killed my server by that oops

Kaz Wolfe

wow...

clam is annoying.

Thomas Ward

yes, it is. I'm trial-running Avast Server Security Core for Linux with my amavis setup

and that looks to be working.

would rather ClamAV (free) but... $160/yr isn't bad for avast on a server

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

17:30

@TheXed i like blue moon though

Thomas Ward

$300 for three years heh

TheXed

Well in that case...I assert that you have not experienced a quailty beer ever...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

17:45

@TheXed Oh, not exactly. We have a serious brewery right on our campus. I just don't go there and visited it only twice.

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy then I blame that on you :-P

Wait, why would they have a brewery right on campus, should they really be encouraging collage aged kids to be partying all the time?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed Because one of the buildings on campus used to be a historic brewery, and they refurbished it now. It's not the whole building though. Only like a small portion of it. The building itself serves for various activities, and there's food court too

TheXed

what is the name of this brewery?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheXed tivolibrewingco.com

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

18:20

VTC duplicate plz: askubuntu.com/q/900202/295286

@TheXed need a quick advice. So I'm out from lecture now. My new dev board arrived so I'm considering going home for now

should i stay on campus till 7:30 when my next lecture is or go home play with the board ?

Zanna

18:36

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy sorry (to all reviewers!) just sent it to reopen queue by editing, couldn't leave the misspelling in the title >_<

.tab? askubuntu.com/questions/900209/…

Zanna

18:49

close

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Zanna heh, it's ok. Maybe it's not exact duplicate so it could be beneficial to send it into queue. Will see what community decided

Zanna

OP agreed!

L. D. James

Can a moderator assist with a move to chat trigger for the comments in this question: askubuntu.com/q/900064/29012

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Zanna voted

Zanna

thanks :)

Android Dev

18:53

@Zanna - Guess what? Not a dupe! askubuntu.com/questions/900180/…

Zanna

wth? AMD wanted in on the border artifact fun?

Kaz Wolfe

cc @Seth, see above.

Zanna

"AMD: anything NVIDIA can do, we can do better. They got bugs? We got better bugs!"

6

jokerdino

@L.D.James Done

L. D. James

@jokerdino Thanks!

Seth

19:05

@KazWolfe looks like the awesome jokerdino got it.

anyway, iz setting up server

I think I can get an IPv6 address from Comcast so I don't need to tunnel.

Android Dev

@Zanna IKR?

@Seth I don't want in IP v6 address, because then I won't be able to memorize it :)

@Seth I thought that was @TheWanderer's line...

Seth

I've been saying wat long before Zach joined AU :P

Android Dev

:)

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev Hostnames are OP

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to configure vpn ppp client connection with indefinite retries?

I have configured a client vpn connection on Ubuntu setting persist and maxfail 0 inside /etc/ppp/peers/myvpn file When the vpn server goes down, an ever increasing number of pptp processes start to pile up until they exhaust the ttys. The pppd man page says: persist Do not exit after a...

TheWanderer

19:35

@AndroidDev it's open source

Kaz Wolfe

@TheWanderer open source isn't necessarily free. Is it using the GPL?

TheWanderer

yes

although it's a variation

the HuePL

Kaz Wolfe

tsk tsk... the GPL doesn't support freedom.

You should be using the MIT license, or the WTFPL

TheWanderer

you see, the HuePL removed all the annoying bits

TheXed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy sorry man I'm kind of preoccupied driving.

tomsk

19:44

o/

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

It's OK, i figured it out

tomsk

finally i find that config file in KDE, but now how to reload it :D askubuntu.com/questions/900227/…

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy o/

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@tomsk \o

Also, ladies and gentlemen I got my board !!!

tomsk

great :D

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Nathan Osman

19:48

Whoa...

What board is that?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Let me introduce you to DE1-SoC board with Altera's Cyclone V FPGA chip and arm processor

Nathan Osman

Nice.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Lovely piece of technology that cost me 200$ and 3 weeks of waiting because i was stupid enough not to read warnings on the site to upload my student id

Kaz Wolfe

sabdfl's policy on notifications is stupid.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe notifications?

Kaz Wolfe

19:49

@NathanOsman yes

those little things in the top right of your screen that pop up and disappear after a while

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I am soooo happy

tomsk

nice :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

now i can work on labs and projects outside of school

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Oh, you mean the fact that you can't dismiss them?

:P

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman No, I can't click on them to go to the app that sent them (like Slack)

Nathan Osman

19:54

Ah.

Kaz Wolfe

or quick-reply or whatever like Mac and Windows allow you to.

and that i can't see previous notifications in a bar somewhere

Nathan Osman

20:08

Use KDE :D

Android Dev

@TheWanderer - a new misspelling for you! askubuntu.com/questions/900237/…

Byte Commander

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Just saw your wifi bitrate indicator.

Nice work, but what exactly does that value tell me now?

For me, it varies in the range of about 10-60 MBit/s for example. And now, what does that mean?

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman But KDE sucks.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@ByteCommander so effectively that is supposed to be the "potential" or estimated throughput of your WiFi connection.

It effectively tells you how well your WiFi connection can transmit

I'm going to be working on another indicator for WiFi statistics, and that thing will have more stuff and more useful data

Yay, my 7-seg code almost works, except for number 1 :/

gotta fix that

all other numbers work

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

20:24

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Q: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS: Value too large for defined data type

I am trying to run Partiview software which is a visualization tool for particle data sets. I have run a large simulation that includes millions of particles and the resultant data file that I am attempting to visualize is 4.26 GB. When I attempt to run the software, I get the following error: ....

ubuntu size data

Byte Commander

@WinEunuuchs2Unix @KazWolfe I didn't say "nothing happens" at 25k. If anything, I said that nothing spectacular happens then. Because to be honest, it's the most boring privilege you can get. I visited that statistics page exactly once. I even forgot where I could find it.

On another note, 95 points today without having done anything.

I'm happy.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Yeah, i visited it once as well. But . . . it's actually quite nice one . . .if you know what to do with it

TheWanderer

Well this was fun

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer I like the colors

Kaz Wolfe

ripperoni safetynet

Byte Commander

20:32

Such neon colorz. Much eye-ouch.

TheWanderer

@KazWolfe it passes for me

Kaz Wolfe

wut

then safetynet just really hates me.

TheWanderer

Kaz Wolfe

see, the second i unlock my bootloader, safetynet dies.

TheWanderer

Is this an advantage the V20 has over the 3T :O

Kaz Wolfe

20:34

and refuses to come back until i factory reset the entire phone.

I'm on a N5.

TheWanderer

Hue

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

yeshhhhh, my 7-seg works !!! I'm a happy camper. git commit !!!!

Byte Commander

Also, I'm excited. They started re-broadcasting the old Doctor Who episodes from 2005 and also put them online for free streaming after they were on air, both in the English original version and as German dub.

TheWanderer

Did you turn on Magisk Hide?

Kaz Wolfe

I can't.

TheWanderer

20:35

Why can't

Kaz Wolfe

The second I unlock, as in the absolute second, I lose safetynet until full factory reset.

TheWanderer

Yeah I do too

Until I turn on Magisk Hide

Kaz Wolfe

does android finally have good stock backup/restore?

because i might try this if it actually works.

Byte Commander

Christoper Eccleston seems to be funny.

TheWanderer

Um

I only ever use manufacturer tools or TiBu

@ByteCommander he was good, but didn't get along with the director or something

Byte Commander

20:37

Idk, just seen the first two episodes with him today on tv.

TheWanderer

You haven't seen those yet?

Kaz Wolfe

I can't TiBu because no root

Byte Commander

And happily noticed I can now also rewatch them online in case I miss one.

TheWanderer

Does Netflix not have Dr Who in Germany?

Byte Commander

Idk, I don't have netflix.

TheWanderer

20:38

@KazWolfe rip

@KazWolfe try DoubleTwist or seomthing

Byte Commander

All DW episodes I watched so far were those on that single German tv station. They started last year with Matt Smith, reached the present and now re-started this week with the Chris Eccleston episodes.

Nathan Osman

I think I finally got broadcasts between Service and Activity working.

It's a painful way to communicate but it works.

Byte Commander

Another kernel update? Didn't we just have one yesterday? Or was that longer ago...

Kaz Wolfe

21:14

i don't see one...

Byte Commander

4.8.0-46 and 4.4.0-72 are the latest kernels I have on my Xenial

Android Dev

21:36

1

Q: I can't seem to install Unbuntu 16.04.2

I'm trying to install a newer version on a nettop (Acer Aspire Revo) that is running an older version. I have an external DVD drive that appears to be booting up ok, but when I get to the "Instal Ubuntu" page, the display just goes off! The DVD drive still wizzes around for a bit and then nothing...

system-installation acer dvd aspire

So now the question is, will the OP come back and accept my answer, or will we never see him again? --^

Kaz Wolfe

We'll never see OP again.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe - Have I made the warnings big enough? askubuntu.com/a/900263/518562

Kaz Wolfe

You have, but they're not accurate.

Wiping the partition table does not delete data, just records of partitions.

Also, I'm pretty sure this doesn't work if you're using GPT.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe, Well given that OP is talking about MBR, I'm assuming he has an MBR partition table

@KazWolfe Yes, that's true; everything would probably be recoverable with testdisk

Kaz Wolfe

OP is not always right, nor is OP guaranteed to know what they're talking about.

I mean, sure.

I wouldn't use two warnings though and... give me a second.

Android Dev

21:50

Okay, feel free to edit :)

Kaz Wolfe

There you go.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Except that one thing you put in there is incorrect too. Wiping the first 446 bytes does not nuke the entire MBR, as the entire MBR contains the partition table and is 512 bytes

But the first 446 is what most people think of when you say MBR

Kaz Wolfe

22:14

feel free to correct :)

Nathan Osman

The nervous feeling you have when you're downloading a very very large file from a server that doesn't support resume.

Byte Commander

appears, unplugs network cable for a second, walks away, innocently whistling

TheWanderer

22:41

k

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Here's a question: how do you guys learn programming ? What kind of notes you keep ? what's the best strategies that you employ ?

TheWanderer

notes?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

yeah, do you write notes ? keep sample code ? annotate examples?

TheWanderer

hahahahaha no

don't take advice from me

Byte Commander

^ that

(both)

:P

TheWanderer

22:50

I'm relying on settings keys to know what I've modified

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

-_______-

TheWanderer

yeah

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy are you on your phone?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

am i the only one here that keeps notes and plays and breaks sampke code ?

@TheWanderer yas

TheWanderer

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy oui

the only one with good habits

I wonder if the mods I've made to my phone will help me get into college...

since I'm looking at software engineering

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer my habits are all ova da plaiz

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