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Nathan Osman

1:41 AM

@ThomasWard delivery or receiving email as well?

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman both

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ I email myself all the time too :p

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard ah. I was going to suggest Hectane for delivery.

It's way easier to configure for mail delivery.

Thomas Ward

i've got mail delivery working fine

it's IMAP logon to Dovecot that's a PITA lol

Journeyman Geek

ugh.

TheWanderer

1:55 AM

.hgu

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Speaking of emailing myself... I was thinking of getting cron to email me each day with status updates of daily/weekly/monthly jobs. Any caveats based on people's experiences?

I might even setup scheduled backups just to get emails :D

@Zanna you are editing the question and first answer that are 1/2 decade old. I admire your dedication :) askubuntu.com/questions/194272/…

Nathan Osman

@ThomasWard yes, I have a similar setup. It takes a while to get everything working correctly. Especially with TLS.

Thomas Ward

well I've got the IMAP connection working, I'm checking if there's a credentials issue, because it's getting the SSL part, but failing logon

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:11 AM

0

Q: Why does Debian records in 1080p and Ubuntu record in 720p

Last year I was using Debian Jessie 8 as my main linux os and I used to record my screen with Record My Desktop the resolution of the video rendered as 1080p but recently I have switched to Ubuntu 16.4 as my main os and I'm using EasyScreenCast to capture my screen but when the video renders the ...

Kaz Wolfe

3:37 AM

official reminder that @ThomasWard is awesome.

Thomas Ward

hm?

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard official reminder that you are awesome.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, its one of my questions but so much fun superuser.com/questions/1194886/…

(also @Bob's answer is pretty darned epic)

Zanna

4:08 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Hah that's not even the oldest

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zanna Good morning 5am early bird... I'm about ready to hit the hay.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

twerks into the room hi ppl

Zanna

And the answer is not very good even after edit :/

Goodnight @WinEunuuchs2Unix :)

Only edited it because there was a delete vote on one of the answers... it's gone now

These days I tend to try to fix the whole page when I land somewhere

(Maybe I will go back to sleep for a bit myself)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well if you are going to land on an ancient island of knowledge you might as well tidy up everything :)

Kaz Wolfe

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy [redacted]

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

4:17 AM

now, How should I spend the night : work on two new indicators or go just chill with YouTube

@KazWolfe no matter how much you redact your posts, I still love you , you fluffy Canis Lupus

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Do it all. Multitask!

Kaz Wolfe

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy woof

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

good boy

I think i will write one of the indicators, shouldn't be that hard , and post as answer

Kaz Wolfe

write one indicator, watch youtube the rest of the night

Zanna

This made me laugh a bit

Kaz Wolfe

4:32 AM

meanwhile, over in the middle of nowhere, 3 mbps for $65

askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/695228

THIS IS WHY THIS SHOULD BE CW

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

4:46 AM

stackoverflow.com/a/42701457/3701431 "According to CIA's internal coding conventions . . . " Whoa, whoa , whoa . . .

Zanna

Any keyboard shortcut gurus got insight here (or delete votes for the answer?)

@KazWolfe what's wrong with just approving the edit?

Kaz Wolfe

It wastes reviews' time.

Zanna

That person doesn't have enough Rep to edit CW

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Zanna answer deleted. It could have been useful back in 2012 when question was posted, although I suppose it's not anymore

Zanna

You need 100

Kaz Wolfe

4:49 AM

And people who have 115 can also edit that freely.

Technically, running that edit means actually verifying that problem exists such as to not add false information to the post.

Zanna

Thanks @SergiyKolodyazhnyy yeah I wouldn't delete it if it had upvotes...

@KazWolfe I have time to click that approve button for useful things like that

Kaz Wolfe

@Zanna Do you have time to actually go through and verify that the problem actually exists with the card (like editors are supposed to do, but everyone ignores)?

Zanna

CW would make zero difference to reviewers in that instance anyway

@KazWolfe Of course not, but that's surely beside the point

Kaz Wolfe

Actually, it does.

Rep is a measure of how much the community trusts you.

Zanna

What?

Kaz Wolfe

4:53 AM

If you have enough rep to edit a CW, we can trust that you're not making things up and actually have the problem at hand.

> Reputation is a rough measurement of how much the community trusts you; it is earned by convincing your peers that you know what you’re talking about. (from the Help Center)

Zanna

I mean we would have to review that edit anyway because the person doesn't have enough rep to edit CW

Kaz Wolfe

We would, because we can't be sure that OP is actually having the problem and not just wanting to add his card to the post for lulz.

(of course, nobody would care enough to verify, but still... trivial things like this shouldn't be in the queue, and would in fact get normally declined as an "attempt to reply")

Zanna

Should not get declined

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Hehe, the measure of my rep is very misleading . . .I might be at 45k but give me powah and I'll derail this whole choo-choo train down into the woods

Kaz Wolfe

Well, it technically is an attempt to reply.

Zanna

4:55 AM

Post is clearly a special case

Kaz Wolfe

We've (as chat) just decided to waive that rule, which not everyone knows.

Zanna

It's obvious even in the structure of that section

Kaz Wolfe

What's obvious to you is not obvious to everyone.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

What are you two discussing here annie-way ?

Kaz Wolfe

Why this should be CW. Mostly because it's a bug that affects a lot of people, and should belong to the community because canonical post.

Zanna

4:58 AM

Haha biased description

Kaz Wolfe

Oh? Don't go down that road.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

what's CW ? AU has way to many accronyms

Kaz Wolfe

Community Wiki

Zanna

Arguing on mobile is so annoying

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

OK . . . Well, sure, CW, why not ?

There's plently of those around

Kaz Wolfe

4:59 AM

Only downside is it doesn't give Android Dev any more rep.

Zanna

I get annoyed with the pain of typing even when I'm not annoyed

2

Kaz Wolfe

And because Atwood doesn't like them (even though he doesn't work here and his opinion doesn't matter here at Ask Ubuntu)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Eh . . . well, anyone asked Android Dev ? After all it's his post , no ?

Kaz Wolfe

Pretty sure he's not for it.

Zanna

The Future of Community Wiki

Grace Note on August 19, 2011

When you mark a post community wiki on a Stack Exchange site, that means …

this post can be edited by anyone with 100 reputation

this post does not generate any reputation for anyone when upvoted or downvoted

The main advantage of community wiki — more editing — was nerfed when we introduced suggested edits. With suggested edits, anyone, even an anonymous user, can edit anything — so long as another experienced user reviews and approves their edit. …

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

5:01 AM

Well, ask him, guys.

On the other hand . . . meh

Kaz Wolfe

well, we also got into a debate as to whether to merge into his post, or the post with higher views.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

A post is helpful either way

Zanna

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy he agreed with me, and my argument was mainly there's no benefit to it

Kaz Wolfe

There's also no harm.

And in fact there is a benefit inasmuch as more people can edit it and examples and other affected cards freely.

Especially because that question should really be closed as a bug.

Zanna

There is harm imho in that people can edit more easily and might think they can post NAAs and crappy half answers

Kaz Wolfe

5:04 AM

And those get rolled back and deleted like they always do.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

> The intent of community wiki in answers is to help share the burden of solving a question. An incomplete “seed” answer is a stepping stone to a complete solution with help from others; an incomplete question is a hindrance and an obstacle to getting a solution as no one understands the inquiry. It is in answers that the goal of community wiki, for the community, by the community, shows its truest colors.

Kaz Wolfe

Users will always post NAAs and crappy half answers, regardless of CW status.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

That's quote from the link is a good point

Zanna

Yeah, and that doesn't apply here

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Yeah, I somehow don't see incompleteness in the posted answers

Oh, well, I'll just go back to youtube. You guys have fun with this

Kaz Wolfe

5:06 AM

There, Zanna. Protected.

Zanna

@KazWolfe true but I think CW if anything encourages it. You want to make it easier to contribute to a post where I think contributing should be more than usually regulated because of the likelihood of thanks/me too type stuff

Good call

Kaz Wolfe

[redacted, see edit history for uselessness]

(Really, though, that question should be closed as a bug, because it really is one.)

Zanna

35 secs ago, by Zanna

Good call

Yeah, although there could be a new answer fixed by nvidia but that could be an edit. I'm agnostic about whether it should be closed

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I hate arguing :(

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I hate arguing too, which is why I don't do it often, and keep especially arguable users in my ignore list . . . so far there's just one though

Zanna

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy totally agree, answer-wise there's nothing to add until it's fixed

Kaz Wolfe

5:14 AM

either way, i've escalated this to mods, i'll let them decide because we're not getting anywhere. If they say no, I'll drop it. cc @Seth, @ThomasWard

sound good?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Well, how about a meta post first ?

we can do a mate post,too

Kaz Wolfe

ACK'd. @Zanna, do you want to post it or should I or whatever?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

my eyes be heavy

Zanna

Same here haha but it's time to get up, not time to sleep :/

ACK?

Kaz Wolfe

networking

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

5:19 AM

acknowledged

Kaz Wolfe

^

Zanna

Oh haha

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

it's one of the signals in communication. SYN, ACK, SEQ

Kaz Wolfe

It's like nerdy 10-4

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

IRQ

Zanna

5:20 AM

Er I am happy to post

Might take a calming nap

Kaz Wolfe

alright, it's yours if you want it.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

naps are rare joy i don't take too often. My sleep is usually equivalent to rough SYSRQ

Zanna

Lol

Probably me posting seems a bit weird though "this one user thinks we should take x action and I think we should not" it's like a non-action meta post haha

Ok going to close my eyes anyway

Kaz Wolfe

that's bias :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Zanna tag it with discussion

Kaz Wolfe

5:24 AM

it can be posted "should this post be meta"

Zanna

@KazWolfe is it? Isn't is bias in your favour if any?

Kaz Wolfe

everything's biased.

Zanna

Yeah, 100% true

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I think all my meta posts are tagged discussion

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

You know what else is biased ? Transistors . . . they can be forward or reverse biased

Zanna

Haha

I need sleep

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

5:27 AM

@Zanna go get some sleep, meta shall wait. Ask Ubuntu won't fall appart if you get a bit of time for yoruself

also I need typing lessons

Kaz Wolfe

to be fair, ask ubuntu won't fall apart if every regular in chat vanished

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

But it sure would be lacking in quality maybe ?

Kaz Wolfe

eh

i don't think there would be much difference tbh

Zanna

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy <3

Seth

5:55 AM

> Two CSS properties walked into a bar. A barstool in a completely different bar falls over.

Kaz Wolfe

o/ seth

tomsk

o/

does someone know? :) askubuntu.com/questions/899515/…

Kaz Wolfe

6:10 AM

@NathanOsman WE DEMAND GEORGE

Nathan Osman

6:41 AM

Wat.

Kaz Wolfe

more george videos

it's been too long

i've been sustaining on biden memes

oh, yeah, @NathanOsman. You want to have PGP on the advanced level?

will ping you tomorrow and leave you panicking. :D

Fabby

7:23 AM

@caub That was for my trackpad.

(don't have a mouse) but if it's too slow, try decreasing/increasing the value by 10

@tomsk Have you tried using locate?

Zanna

@KazWolfe see meta

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Should the NVIDIA bug question be made a community wiki?

NVIDIA have screwed up and pushed some buggy drivers, affecting many users who are coming to AU with the same issue: Strange artifacts along window borders after waking computer from sleep mode The question has a list of affected cards at the end: Someone has proposed that this question be m...

discussion community-wiki

tomsk

@Fabby locate? how? sorry I never used locate command

blade19899

Guess who is at his Linux class?! :P

Fabby

Well, I don't have KDE so know nothing about panels, but go to a terminal and type

locate name | grep --ignoce-case config where name is a unique part of your panel name and itl'll show all files and config.

@AskUbuntuMeta Upgoated.

the_velour_fog

7:38 AM

hi all, just wondering if anyone here has had any experience saving iptables rules with the new netfilter-persistent package?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:05 AM

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Q: Error: TCA_HTB_PAD undeclared while building kernel

I was trying to build the kernel following this tutorial (I'm on Ubuntu): https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelBuild . When executing the "make" command, I got an error: net/sched/sch_htb.c: In function ‘htb_dump_class’: net/sched/sch_htb.c:1115:10: error: ‘TCA_HTB_PAD’ undeclared (first use in this ...

ubuntu kernel compiling

the_velour_fog

8:23 AM

ah, just learnt why the netfilter-persistent package wasnt working - it seems your supposed to install iptables-persistent - but it calls netfilter-persistent!

Jacob Vlijm

8:54 AM

@terdon yeah, sorry, I'll behave. askubuntu.com/questions/899346/…

terdon

@JacobVlijm Automatic flags :P

Jacob Vlijm

:)

cl-netbox

9:53 AM

Hello :)

Rinzwind

10:26 AM

0

A: Command line in Ubuntu for send a int Between two Computers

cd /tmp touch 1 scp 1 {user}:{password}@{ip}:/tmp and you will have a file named 1 on the other system. You can change the 1 to any other number :P

@JacobVlijm n00b >:-D

Jacob Vlijm

@Rinzwind Still no clue... Whaaaaaat? Technically, that's a string :)

cl-netbox

Rinzy ! :)

Rinzwind

@JacobVlijm works for floats too >:-D

boxy!

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind Want an UV ? There it is ! :)

Jacob Vlijm

Ultra Violet?

cl-netbox

10:30 AM

@JacobVlijm no ... red check mark ! :D Hi Jacob, good morning ! :)

Jacob Vlijm

Hey @cl-netbox!

Rinzwind

someone asking a question like that is probably not going to understand the concept of sockets :P @JacobVlijm

Jacob Vlijm

@Rinzwind :)

.... But does it also work in theory? @Rinzwind

Rinzwind

:D

it does!

TheWanderer

10:48 AM

Jacob Vlijm

11:03 AM

@Rinzwind Not sure he isn't just fooling us: stackoverflow.com/q/43181459/1391444

Also see his latest comment here: askubuntu.com/questions/899690

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:26 AM

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Q: fatal: Not a git repository?

In order to Build and install Yocto for SMA-IMX6, first i created a folder and then #Sudo apt-get install git I could not download the source code directly, so that i first download the kernel linux-imx6-imx_3.14.28_1.0.0_ga-bcm then downloaded the patch file ie.REV-SA01-KERNEL-PA...

linux ubuntu boot yocto

TheWanderer

11:41 AM

terdon

To eat an apple, you have to really suck.

Apparently.

Benny

Question please,
is My answer correct? is this what he need?
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/355576/fatal-not-a-git-repository/355588#355588

terdon

@Benny You're on the wrong site.

Benny

ok i will not mix

terdon

@Benny And no, that's not what they need. I mean, it's part of it, but the whole question makes very little sense.

Benny

11:48 AM

Thanks

terdon

I don't think it's answerable in its present state. Do you understand if the OP wants to patch the kernel or this Yocto thing?

Benny

not really, i just want to help him to avoid the exception:
fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories)

user136984

VTC this silly question is some way or another.

TheWanderer

1:12 PM

Camelot, tis a silly place

►

4

@ByteCommander ^

Seth

2:03 PM

@Zanna sounds like you need a better keyboard or better posture.

Zanna

@Seth oh I'm fine on my real keyboard - I meant on my phone

Seth

Ah

Zanna

but thanks for the thoughtful comment :)

I do need to get a better keyboard on my phone

ie one with swipe input :S

TheXed

@Zanna you need an IBM Model M for your phone...

Zanna

oh yeah?

TheXed

2:07 PM

@Zanna I don't know how that would really work out...I just imagine lugging around a 5lb keyboard with your phone....

Zanna

it's tempting sometimes... I do waaay too much typing on my phone

TheXed

@Zanna I try to avoid it if at all possible...

At least any serious typing...

Zanna

sensible :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Explosion in Russia's subway: youtube.com/watch?v=FC6nU6C5aEM

Seth

Get a keyboard that has decent predictive text too. Helps a ton.

Zanna

2:17 PM

yeah very true. I use AnySoftKeyboard which is actually really awesome and beautiful. Much better than any other I've used except that it has no swipe input

Seth

@Zanna if you want good themes look into ai.type keyboard. The predictive text requires the pro version, but it's a really good keyboard.

I just use the Google one.

Hizqeel

Are these 2 users the same person?

http://askubuntu.com/a/894341/529390
http://askubuntu.com/a/899736/529390

TheWanderer

@Hizqeel first one is unregistered, the second one is registered

very likely the same

Hizqeel

@TheWanderer Yes I saw that and their answers are almost the same

Zanna

@Seth hmm I should take a look. I use a gorgeous dark theme from AnySoft's extra themes pack... I'm still refusing to use Google Keyboard even though it has swipe. Every time I have to type anything at all on my nexus 7 (which I basically only use for youtube and facetime apps) I'm enraged by the crappiness of the keyboard haha so I'll see if I can follow your advice to get something better for it

Hizqeel

2:30 PM

@terdon o/ Hi, Please take a look

terdon

Hi. What should I look at? There's nothing I can do if they're the same user. They need to contact SE and ask to merge their accounts. You can leave them a comment linking to askubuntu.com/help/merging-accounts

Hizqeel

ok :)

TheXed

The best mobile keyboard I have used.....don't shoot me... is the default mobile keyboard for Windows 10 Mobile....

TheWanderer

@TheXed Gboard does well

TheXed

@TheWanderer to much fluff...

Seth

2:43 PM

@Zanna Google keyboard is great. Are you using the latest version?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to find the drupal8 database?

how to accessing the drupal database ubuntu

ubuntu drupal

Zanna

3:04 PM

@Seth My refusal to use it on my phone is pure stubbornness - I'm only using FOSS. On the Nexus I'm not sure, it seems to be crap despite updating all the time, but the touchscreen is generally really bad. This week(end) I will work on it. Thanks for giving me a push :D

TheWanderer

3:45 PM

@Zanna use the AOSP keyboard then. It's like Chromium is to Chrome.

userDepth

@TheWanderer Hi

Have you used Enigmail ?

Zanna

@TheWanderer I've got it,but it's rubbish compared to AnySoft

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

4:10 PM

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Q: How to scp via an intermediate machine?

In order to ssh into my work computer from home, let's call it C I have to do the following: ssh -t user@B ssh C B is a server that I can connect to from home but C can only be connected to from B. This works fine. If I want to copy a file that is on C to my home computer using scp, wh...

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Ask Ubuntu Meta

4:23 PM

0

Q: Don't forget you can propose a solution including instructions with another OS

I saw this question yesterday about using encrypted files in a Ubuntu system but it had to be accessed from W10. The solution was mainly about decrypting the files so the copying of files was done in the end by that OS. Since who to use is the goal of AU the solution was actually done by Ubuntu ...

discussion

Rinzwind

4:36 PM

Sushi!!

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind enjoy ! :)

userDepth

4:55 PM

Rewording tickles me XD

terdon

@userDepth Did you reword that meta question? I read it three times and still have no idea what it is about. Maybe a link to the question you are referencing might help.

userDepth

@terdon I did that

Yes. I did reword it

terdon

@userDepth OK. So what's the issue? I mean, what problem are you addressing? Did somebody claim that the answer was bad or off topic or something?

I mean, the answer has three upvotes, is accepted and has received a bounty.

userDepth

No, but I had difficulties seeing the solution

Because of what I'm explaining

So that's a confusing explanation ?

terdon

@userDepth Very, I'm afraid. I don't even see anything that I could call an explanation.

Where's the explanation?

userDepth

5:03 PM

That our main objective is to learn how to use Ubuntu so when the solution includes using a step using another OS then we don't see it

terdon

We don't?

What don't we see? The solution? That the solution involves another OS?

cl-netbox

@userDepth I have to agree with @terdon ... I am also not able to get what mean and what you want to achieve ... can you please explain it a bit more clearly, so that we can understand ? :)

userDepth

@terdon Why do you interpret it as a whole case on every post ?

It only may happen

terdon

@userDepth Sorry, I don't understand. Interpret what as a "whole case on every post"?

Jacob Vlijm

Is anyone going to tell him asking for accepting, even before a single comment is done is... yuck? I am volunteering. askubuntu.com/a/899807/72216

userDepth

5:10 PM

that we all miss the solutions

IUt was difficult for me to see it in that case

terdon

@userDepth We do?

tomsk

@Cl

terdon

See what? See the solution or see that the solution was for windows?

tomsk

@cl-netbox o/

userDepth

No that W10 will be the objective of the Ubuntu solution

By decryoting the files first

decrypting*

cl-netbox

5:11 PM

@tomsk Hello :) Good afternoon ! :)

userDepth

and leaving it in an external HDD for any system to access it

terdon

@userDepth I still don't understand what the point of your meta post is. You found a particular answer confusing, right? OK, but what are we supposed to discuss in the meta post? We all sometimes miss details, but there's not much we can do about it.

tomsk

@cl-netbox ^^ good afternoon :)

is there somebody who knows KDE very well? :D

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm your comment - upvoted ! if it will help ? I guess not ... unfortunately he still posts this comment under nearly every answer, even though he must have seen that some of them were deleted after I flagged them ... indeed he re-posted them afterwards !

@tomsk I have tested it on opensuse tumbleweed and came to the conclusion that KDE is absolutely not my thingie, so unfortunately I can't help you in this case. :)

userDepth

@terdon OK I see so that's would be more effort from us, you could post that as an answer

terdon

5:17 PM

Um. Not really since I still don't understand the question.

userDepth

@terdon done , meta.askubuntu.com/questions/16872/…

I'll keep this in mind

tomsk

@cl-netbox really? Im trying KDE Neon right now, and I really like it, I like that customization so much ^^

cl-netbox

@tomsk hahaha ... exactly this is the point : for me it is too much of customization ... but I must admit that the GUI looks quite nice though ! :D

Jacob Vlijm

5:40 PM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy not sure why you are pulling fiercely (sais Google translate), but like I asked, let's not do discuss this on the question: askubuntu.com/questions/899317/…

I am fine if your experience is different from mine. Not feeling like discussing this much further. Didn't ask for it, don't see the use of it.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm Is there "something" going on between you and @SergiyKolodyazhnyy ? Hope not ... you both are great and somewhat genius experts ! :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Locked out of linux after installing amdgpu-pro and adding user to video group

I have managed to lock myself out of linux (ubuntu). I installed amdgpu-pro, video drivers for graphics card (Radeon RX470) and then followed their guide to add myself to the video group with (as is) sudo usermod -a -G video $LOGNAME Then logged out for it to take effect, now when I login, t...

ubuntu screen-lock amd-graphics user-mode-linux

Jacob Vlijm

@cl-netbox actually, no clue...

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm my personal opinion : the whole topic (ccsm vs xdotool) is not worth arguing about ... :) or did I miss something important there ? :)

Jacob Vlijm

5:57 PM

Actually, I am trying not to discuss it.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm good decision and solution ... when one person stops discussing, the discussion is done / obsolete / over ... finito - right ? :)

Goodbye to everyone ... see you next time :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@cl-netbox I've voted to close a question as duplicate, which is a highly voted post and same as what OP of new post asks. For some reason @JacobVlijm takes offense to that, and keeps defending xdotool, even though ccsm solution is just as good.

tomsk

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy hellooo ^^

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I don't want to discuss this as I see this is going nowhere. It's my understanding that questions which are similar are voted to be closed since there already exist solutions for them.

cl-netbox

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy yes ... of course ... often different solutions achieve the same ! :) Hi my friend ! :) I'm about to leave ... :)

tomsk

6:04 PM

If someone know answer to this question askubuntu.com/questions/899515/… I would be happy :) I would like to create something like launcher List Indicator but for KDE

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@tomsk @cl-netbox hello, folks !

cl-netbox

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Do you think that @JacobVlijm has a different opinion on that ? He also votes to close dupe questions often ... afaik :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@cl-netbox I don't think he has a different opinion, it just confuses me why he is against closing that specific question, and substantially claims that CCSM solution is worse even though it's used in multiple posts through out Ask Ubuntu for the same topic, just as xdotool is being used.

cl-netbox

@tomsk Well, I guess this could be an interesting and demanding task for our "hero scripters" @JacobVlijm and @SergiyKolodyazhnyy ! :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@KazWolfe good Canis Lupus to you

Kaz Wolfe

6:09 PM

Yes, what do you need?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Nothing, just greeting

Kaz Wolfe

alright, hi.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Looks like you haven't had coffee yet

Kaz Wolfe

No, I have.

cl-netbox

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Is there a proof that CCSM is worse ? This tool is around for such a long time and successfully in use (again : afaik). :)

Kaz Wolfe

6:10 PM

Company did something dumb.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@cl-netbox I've not seen any so far. In any case, it's a solution just as good

Anyway, I would like to let this discussion go. I've other things to care about

cl-netbox

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy yes ... good decision ... see you later Sergiy ! :) Bye :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Bye , sleep well :)

cl-netbox

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Thanks ... you too ! :) Though bed time is in about 3 - 4 hours ... :)

Anwar

hi

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

6:15 PM

Hellow

@Anwar Hi and bye :)

@cl-netbox bye

see you later :)

o/

\o

6:24 PM

lots of one colored pro pic!

good night.

tomsk

@cl-netbox no! I want some my own scripts :)

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy please dont make LLI for KDE :) This task is for me :) I would like to start my open source career :D

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Lol, OK. I'm not using KDE, so not familiar with how it works. But yeah, feel free to do it ! And if you need coding advice in Python or other things, feel free to ask

I mean, I'm glad to help out in any way I can

Jacob Vlijm

@tomsk did you see my comment on the question?

tomsk

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy ya thanks :) I may start PyQt, because with PerlQt i have lot of problems (outdated libraries)

@JacobVlijm yea I had a shower :D

@JacobVlijm gonna try :)

Jacob Vlijm

...curious!

tomsk

6:34 PM

nothing interesting

tomsk@tomsk-All-Series:~$ dconf dump /
[org/gnome/eog/view]
background-color='rgb(0,0,0)'
use-background-color=true

[org/gnome/eog/ui]
statusbar=true
sidebar=false
image-gallery=false

[org/gnome/desktop/a11y/applications]
screen-reader-enabled=false

[org/gtk/settings/file-chooser]
sort-column='name'
sidebar-width=148
window-position=(557, 238)
show-size-column=true
show-hidden=false
window-size=(858, 622)
sort-directories-first=false
date-format='regular'
sort-order='ascending'
location-mode='path-bar'

Jacob Vlijm

@tomsk that is all? Ai, dead end then :(

user136984

Fun to have so many solid colours in the room!

user136984

I feel like we're part of a pack!

user136984

:D

tomsk

I tried command lsof but with no results

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

6:38 PM

@ParanoidPanda totally ! @KazWolfe could say a wolf-pack

user136984

:D

user136984

What is this guy going on about?

user136984

-2

Q: Ubuntu 16.04 updates eat free hard drive space

What is going on with the updates? How do I fix this?

updates

user136984

Perhaps he doesn't understand why updating software takes up more space? :D

tomsk

interesing

Panda? do you use KDE? :P

user136984

6:50 PM

@tomsk: Nope... I use GNOME. Why?

tomsk

just for information :)

user136984

Ok...

user136984

7:05 PM

@Rinzwind: So? When will you join the ~~dark~~ colourful side? ;D

user136984

By the way, have you guys tried the Breeze icon theme? It really is one! :)

tomsk

7:18 PM

I have breeze theme :) im using KDE :)

@ParanoidPanda colorful? hah? it dark :D

*its

user136984

@tomsk: In that case I was referring to the new solid colour avatar craze. ;)

tomsk

caub

@Fabby I'm at 1 by default

I'm using imwheel to scroll faster, sometimes, not too often fortunately I open a page and scroll is not working mouse or touchpad

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