Ask Ubuntu General Room

George Edison

00:00

It's the same link.

Oli

@QuestionsFeed Can I answer that? No. I find it hard to describe how much I hate printers. They've had decades to unify a simple driver and yet every damned printer wants to work a different way. If I had my way, I'd take all the existing printers in the world and throw them into the sea.

TheX

okay this is what happens

and this is happening on two different computers

George Edison

@Oli What about the new 3D printers?

@TheX Uh-oh...

Oli

@GeorgeEdison They can stay (until I get my first ABS RESIN JAM error)

TheX

when i go to authorise...

George Edison

00:00

Okay.

Hrm... that's not good.

TheX

Yeah I didn't think so

George Edison

Sounds like it might be an SSL issue...

@TheX Thanks for testing. I'll get back to you as soon as I have a solution.

TheX

Cool

@GeorgeEdison how do I make an official bug report so I can be cool like that?

George Edison

I'v uploaded a possible fix now. Please try it again.

Apparently some DLLs for SSL support were missing.

TheX

Downloading now.

George Edison

00:13

If that doesn't fix it, please feel free to file a bug at bugs.launchpad.net/stackapplet

I'm hoping it does though.

TheX

oh...

new error

George Edison

Yup, that's a bug because it's still running.

TheX

lol yeah...

George Edison

You can just close the currently running instance in the tray and starrt he installer again.

TheX

I figured it out

George Edison

00:15

I'll fix that later.

TheX

George Edison

Well, that's a step in the right direction... I guess...

Sigh...

TheX

Yup, now I see some text lol

George Edison

Authenticated?

TheX

nope

George Edison

00:18

:(

Thomas Ward

sup

TheX

@ThomasWard hi

daslinkard

@ThomasWard Sup?

TheX

well that is pleasant come in, say hi and then run away

daslinkard

@TheX No doubt

Whoops...double reply...my bad

@TheX what's going on with ya?

TheX

00:33

Just playing with Windows 8

helping @GeorgeEdison do some testing.

daslinkard

How do you like it?

TheX

I have been using it since the developers preview

so.. for me it is much improved over that...

daslinkard

Oh yeah? One of my coworkers have too....but I haven't really spoke to him about it...

<---- not a Windows fan since discovering Linux

TheX

Well we use windows excusably at work... so I try to keep up with the times...

daslinkard

LOL...very cool....we're running XP Pro at my office

I so wish I could get someone....anyone....looking seriously at Linux

Everyone seems to think that because it is Free....something must be cheap about it....or that it would be disastrous.

TheX

00:36

Most of our machines are Windows XP Pro, but we just bought 300 laptops this summer that have Windows 7

IMHO, Linux is pretty disastrous right now... between Unity/Gnome Shell/ and KDE I am afraid there isn't much there for me to choose from...

daslinkard

Personal question though....what are your thoughts of an IT professional who has never used Linux (at all)...I ask this because this is what I'm dealing with...I've used Linux for less than 6 months...our main IT admin....never even once...

@TheX interesting

TheX

I am a IT pro too, my boss doesn't have much knowledge of Linux either...

So I guess they are out there...

but is is pretty amazing on the Windows side of things... he has taught me a lot of stuff...

So I guess it just depends...

@daslinkard you better get some posts on your blog, I just subscribed to it ;-)

daslinkard

I see...I just thought that all IT professionals would be knowledgeable on Linux

@TheX Thank you...yeah, I set it up....was ready to rock-n-roll and then was hit with extreme work overload

But...I do have a video I am going to post...it is of my 6 year old daughter working the terminal

Here's the YouTube link... youtube.com/watch?v=pHF977bS1gM&feature=youtu.be

TheX

Oh yeah I saw that :D

daslinkard

She is def hooked on Linux

she likes using Tux typing for 20 minutes every school morning

TheX

00:45

I think I even gave it a thumbs up.

daslinkard

before we leave to drop her off

Sweet

I'm really disappointed in my area...I was hoping to have a Linux meetup group locally

but the closest one is over 120 miles away....

have you started a meetup group for Linux....and do you think it would be beneficial?

TheX

that is when they would say "start your own"

No I have never started one...

I have considered it though,,,

but I live in a pretty rural area...

daslinkard

Yeah...I'm leaning to it....

Oh yeah? I live near Huntsville, Alabama....what about you?

TheX

I live between two cornfields in IL

daslinkard

LOL...I'm originally from Missouri

TheX

00:48

bout 3.5 hours south west of Chicago...

daslinkard

SE MO

TheX

really where at? my brother in Law lives in Eminence...

daslinkard

What area? Near Centralia, IL?

Cape Girardeau

TheX

Cool

I am about 45 mins north of Peoria...

daslinkard

Cool....yeah, my favorite MLB team (the Cardinals) have a minor league team in Peoria

so how long have you been using Linux and what got you started?

TheX

00:50

Had... it is now affiliated with your rival lol

daslinkard

LOL...I did not know they switched....when?

TheX

I don't know...

daslinkard

CUBS....stands for Completely Useless By September

TheX

must have been a while because they have been affiliated with the Cubs for as long as I have been in IL, 5 years maybe...

that is a good one...I will remember that my wife likes the cubs I don't

daslinkard

You're a good man

TheX

00:52

I am originally from Indiana

daslinkard

Ah...a hoosier

TheX

yup

daslinkard

We've got family that live near Terre Haute

TheX

Yeah I probably do too, but I grew up just north of Ft. Wayne

daslinkard

so how long have you been using Linux and what got you started?

TheX

01:02

Oh sorry you asked me that once...

I have been using linux for about 10 years (?)

I don't know what really got me started

daslinkard

Cool

Well, I've got to help a friend out....go figure....continuous boot loop on a Windows machine.

Nice chatting with you....have a good night.

TheX

thanks you too good luck

Thomas Ward

01:18

whats happened in the hour or so i've been disappeared

TheX

@ThomasWard not much @daslinkard and I had a full and good conversation about nothing much at all.

Thomas Ward

lol

George Edison

01:36

Qt and SSL - avoid combining them if possible :P

(I say that in jest of course, but I am a little frustrated with the aforementioned.)

TheX

I see... that is as clear as mud...

Thomas Ward

@GeorgeEdison whats wrong with Qt + SSL?

implosions of evilness?

George Edison

I can't get it working on Windows.

Thomas Ward

did I mention windows is evil?

George Edison

QWebView refuses to display pages over HTTPS.

@ThomasWard Many times...

TheX

01:45

@ThomasWard yes we know... but it is still important to develop software for considering it has some 90(?)% of the OS market share.

George Edison

I'm trying to run the app in Wine now to see if I can reproduce the error.

Thomas Ward

@TheX oh i agree

George Edison

I'm also talking to someone on #qt.

Thomas Ward

@GeorgeEdison whats it coded in on Windows? C-based stuffs?

George Edison

It's written in C++.

Thomas Ward

01:47

GNU C++, or Visual C++?

(Windows is picky)

George Edison

Everything is compiled with Mingw32.

Thomas Ward

hmm

George Edison

My app, Qt, the OpenSSL libs...

Fires up Wine...

TheX

What kind? @GeorgeEdison White or Red?

George Edison

^--- That Wine.

TheX

01:51

I know I was just joshin' ya :-D

But I forgot your Vulcan and have no sense of humor.

George Edison

Sorry :P

TheX

:-D

George Edison

It gets points for being ugly:

TheX

it looks better on Windows

George Edison

Yup.

TheX

01:56

I shoudl eat some supper

but I am feeling extra lazy tonight...

George Edison

I've been downloading Windows 8 Consumer Preview since I talked to you this morning :)

It's 91% complete now.

TheX

OMG... I had it downloaded in less then an hour, the 64bit version

George Edison

Well, my 1Mbps connection isn't exactly the fastest thing they ever built :)

TheX

yeah that probably sucks.... I do have 10Mbps connection

George Edison

So it's 10x as fast.

TheX

02:01

Yeah something like that...

George Edison

Okay, so after some testing - the latest installer contains everything StackApplet needs to connect via HTTPS.

Can you verify that libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll are installed in C:\Program Files\StackApplet?

TheX

yeah they are both there

I don;t know if it matters or not, but I ma running 64bit.

George Edison

Ooooooooh.

That might explain it.

I'm not sure though.

TheX

Sorry... maybe I should have said so before

George Edison

It's okay.

George Edison

02:26

Allright, installing Windows 8 CP now...

TheX

@GeorgeEdison did you download the ISO? or the installer tool?

George Edison

The installer tool.

^--- Lol...?

TheX

lol

I started with the installer said it was going to take 11 hours, so I checked the ISO, said 1 hr...

I was like okay...

Questions Feed

How to see specific information from the Motherboard http://askubuntu.com/questions/108954/how-to-see-specific-information-from-the-motherboard #hardware

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on March 1, 2012 at 2:38 AM

ccrama

02:55

anybody online? I need help either mounting an external harddrive on ubuntu server or getting permission to edit files on ssh

William

online

but cant help you

sry

ccrama

its ok

William

feels better

nitstorm

04:15

@jrg Done :) wunderkit.com/#/askubuntu-stuff

@ccrama command to mount, sudo mount

@Oli : You have hit the limit for open allocations (20). Get some of your allocations closed off and check back soon. ??? Changed from 30?

jokerdino

5 hours ago, by Oli

Few changes to the Cleanup...
- Batch size (how many you get at once) is now 5, (was 10)
- Max-open is now 20, (was 30)
- Max-per-day is still 50
- And allocations expire after 3 days (was 7 days)

@nitstorm ^^

nitstorm

@jokerdino o..O

Thanks :)

Jump on to Ubuntu Regulators, need your help with closing a few questions :)

jokerdino

04:34

Ubuntu one dev confirms that my proposed workaround for a question should work. askubuntu.com/questions/103252/…

wisemonkey

hellos

Abhi

hello

jokerdino

hello wisemonkey and abhi

Abhi

@jokerdino hi, i am new to here, can you tell me for what this is meant?

jokerdino

which one are you referring to?

Abhi

04:43

@jokerdino this room :)

jokerdino

This chat room is for general discussion about Ubuntu and Ask Ubuntu.

Abhi

ok thanks

wisemonkey

@Abhi or just chat, people (me) generally ask subjective questions over here

Abhi

@wisemonkey android questions also?

jokerdino

@abhi go to android.SE for android.

wisemonkey

04:46

@Abhi u can always ask depending on if people know they would answer else u may need to go to android se

Abhi

@wisemonkey @jokerdino ok thank you for responses :)

wisemonkey

np

btw I wanted to check if anyone is aware of better documentation (deployment guide) for kolab

wisemonkey

05:00

or comparison between citadel and kolab and which is better and why?

jokerdino

i have no idea what these are.

wisemonkey

groupware

basically to setup mail server

kolab seems to have pretty good reviews but I couldn't find really good documentation or deployment guide

jokerdino

i lack expertise in that field, your best bet would be to wait for someone who knows the answer.

wisemonkey

sure np generally @StefanoPalazzo answers these kinda questions pretty good but right now I can't be online when he is

William

0

A: Nicer FTP client than FileZilla?

Filezilla is the de facto standard when it comes to an FTP client. It is extremely powerful while remaining very easy to use. You mentioned the user interface, and your'e really not going to find much better then Filezilla as far as that. However, here are the top ten most popular alternatives: ...

Can someone please help me get the pictures to show up right on this?

nvm

fixed it

please approve my edit

Questions Feed

05:50

Can you answer this? How do I unblacklist the proprietary drivers In Casper? http://askubuntu.com/questions/100297/how-do-i-unblacklist-the-proprietary-drivers-in-casper #driver

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on March 1, 2012 at 5:38 AM

William

06:15

Could someone please look something over for me?

for stupid grammar and spelling mistakes

ubuntuone.com/0NGofpFhMyHPp1sp0zsW79

William

06:30

gnight all

nitstorm

'night @William

Octavian Damiean

07:22

Beta 1 today!

2

Alvar

08:29

@jorgeCastro maybe could interest you: askubuntu.com/q/109042/10698

Questions Feed

09:00

Can you answer this? How do I start x11vnc via bash script on startup, not login? http://askubuntu.com/questions/99558/how-do-i-start-x11vnc-via-bash-script-on-startup-not-login #bash

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on March 1, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:06

0

Q: Uninstall the Encrypted LVM function to remove the prompted password entry during Ubuntu Boot

When I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I was offered the option of enabling "encrypted LVM" for my hard drive. After choosing that option, I am prompted for my password during boot to decrypt the LVM. Now, I am thinking about cancell/uninstall/remove "encrypted LVM' function as I don't want to input ...

Questions Feed

11:43

Bounty offered: Command last does not show logins through sFTP, is there something similar or any logs? http://askubuntu.com/questions/107602/command-last-does-not-show-logins-through-sftp-is-there-something-similar-or-an #sftp

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on March 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

jokerdino

13:12

0

A: Why is Ubuntu not publicized in big conferences?

While the points brought up by Jo-Erlend Schinstand largely stands, there is also the issue of not having enough monetary funds and other resources to promote Ubuntu for every release. Imagine conducting large publicity-oriented keynotes every six months. It will be definitely take quite a bit of...

I had a good chat with the Ubuntu community fellas and made an answer. :)

Octavian Damiean

> Moreover, publicizing releases that aren't fully bug free (honestly, no Ubuntu release has been 100% bug free) is doing more harm than good. It will create a very poor impression about Ubuntu and the rest of the Linux community.

That statement holds true for Apple and Microsoft as well (maybe especially Microsoft).

jokerdino

I don't disagree.

But, I was summing up the chat convo.

Octavian Damiean

Yup, just sayin'. :)

Marco Ceppi

Every two years Ubuntu should hit the ground running for the LTS

6 months is impractical

With the exception of the last release, Apple has been doing two years, or more, releases for Mac OSX

jokerdino

Only Ubuntu releases twice every year.

Octavian Damiean

13:25

Not a LTS version.

jokerdino

askubuntu.com/users/48716/andres & askubuntu.com/users/48668/andrea

These people are posting a lot of non-answers. ^

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino Not sure if two is a lot of not :)

jokerdino

OK. May be I am a bit biased.

On first look, it looked like it is the same person.

Octavian Damiean

Can't wait to post my Beta announcement message. :D

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino Checked IPs and emails, they're pretty different from what I can tell

Octavian Damiean

13:34

You sure that they don't try to trick you? :D

jokerdino

I know they are different persons. The gravatars are different.

Marco Ceppi

Gravatar is based on Email

Octavian Damiean

That is not true @jokerdino.

jokerdino

Ah, me = fail.

Octavian Damiean

Y U ALWAYZ NINJA MEH @MarcoCeppi?

Marco Ceppi

13:36

<3u

3

Octavian Damiean

:D

rlemon

Everyone loves kbd tags

@OctavianDamiean check em out

Octavian Damiean

OH MY GOSH!

They are so awesome! You can even click them! :D

rlemon

yup

Octavian Damiean

My productivity just reached a new low.

Even with a nice Circle of Friends!

Wait, the <kbd> tag actually exists!? Didn't know that.

jokerdino

13:42

o.O

Octavian Damiean

Here is an idea.

Have the entire keyboard, write some JS to capture all key events and toggle the CSS classes on the appropriate kbd element.

@rlemon jsfiddle.net/mainerror/nLpd6/4

That is a version without text selection.

Makes the clicking more fun.

Marco Ceppi

Where's the rest of the keyboard?

Octavian Damiean

Soz, I was hungry and munched them.

I was looking for the pull request feature until I realized that it is jsfiddle. :P

rlemon

updated

lol

didn't think it warrented a new repo

maybe a gist

maybe i'll just blog about it :P

Marco Ceppi

This is how far I got

jsfiddle.net/nLpd6/7

need to do super and sub script now

William

13:58

2

A: Nicer FTP client than FileZilla?

Filezilla is the de facto standard when it comes to an FTP client. It is extremely powerful while remaining very easy to use. You mentioned the user interface, and your'e really not going to find much better then Filezilla as far as that. However, here are the top ten most popular alternatives: ...

This is how it always works.

I write a really long answer and get a few upvotes,

...and then I spend 5 minutes on an answer and get 20 upvotes.

-.-

Marco Ceppi

well you kind of threw in way too many pieces of software at once

rlemon

jsfiddle.net/rlemon/nLpd6/8

few more rows

William

IU did

but it is a good list.

Marco Ceppi

@rlemon I see your new row and raise you full keys :)

TheX

why is the home row split in two?

Roland Taylor

14:01

25 mins ago, by Marco Ceppi

<3u

^MicroLove, only from Marco Ceppi.

TheX

@RolandTaylor stop erasing my memory!

Roland Taylor

Who me? :)

TheX

I don't know... I don't remember...

what are we talking about again???

Marco Ceppi

jsfiddle.net/nLpd6/9

Roland Taylor

♥µ

TheX

14:03

@MarcoCeppi that is better :-D

Roland Taylor

me likey

TheX

I am going to go play the Simpsons now, and go get fired....

(under @RolandTaylor mind control powers)

Roland Taylor

@TheX shhh!

I'm innocent! (sorta)

rlemon

jsfiddle.net/rlemon/nLpd6

Now I just need sub and super like marco pointed out

TheX

@MarcoCeppi even better :D

Roland Taylor

14:08

@rlemon whoa

rlemon

I got bored... decided I needed a slick kbd tag and it got out of hand.

Roland Taylor

lol

Octavian Damiean

heh

Roland Taylor

I'm out :D

back later :P

writing time, plus have to transfer some photoseseses

rlemon

jsfiddle.net/rlemon/nLpd6/embedded/result

Booya!!! Click Shift

I could remove the jQuery, but would need to add another tag in the markup per each key with an alternate function. and a wrapper to the keyboard.

Octavian Damiean

14:27

Nice! :D

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean gist.github.com/1950126 maybe you can use this in your mobile stuff.

Octavian Damiean

14:39

You got the shift function wrong.

What you have is capslock.

TheX

Happy Birthday Justin Bieber!

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean when was the last time capslock gave you !

@TheX GTFO NOW!!

TheX

►

rlemon

Keeping the key 'toggled' would be congruent with online/touch keyboards with no multi-functionality

Octavian Damiean

Just sayin'. :D

rlemon

14:42

what are you saying though? the key being toggled on click and not on press?

jrg

@TheX OUT. THE DOOR IS THATAWAY.

rlemon

Exactly... he's a Belieber

Octavian Damiean

@rlemon Yes.

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean Look at your phone / tablet - that is how these keys function when you must assume the user has only one touch point at a time (mouse does not offer much multi-touch functionality)

Arda Xi

Guys, guys. That flag button is a great responsibility. I realise it's a lot of fun to hate on/love Justin Bieber, but that doesn't mean you have to pull guys like me off of my cozy star ship and to here just to make sure nobody gets banned. :)

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Roland Taylor

14:45

@TheX lol

TylerShads

@ArdaXi What he said xD

TheX

Its just not fair...

jrg

yeah, guys, please, lets not go back to 7 months ago, back when we had more moderators in the room than normal users because people wouldn't stop flagging stupid stuff. :)

TheX

@jrg that really happened?

jrg

@TheX Yes. Well, pretty close to it.

Arda Xi

14:47

Yeah, it happens a lot around the network, definitely not just here. I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't happen too often.

Roland Taylor

wait what...

Octavian Damiean

heh

Roland Taylor

7 mins ago, by TheX

Happy Birthday Justin Bieber!

???????

TheX

I apologize for my transgressions, but I won't apologize for saying happy birthday to Justin Bieber.

jrg

As Marco would say: ಠ_ಠ

Roland Taylor

14:48

:'( why are you doing this to me?

What have I done?

TheX

@RolandTaylor because you are my master and won't stop controlling my mind...

Roland Taylor

I'm sorry, @TheX, but we can't be friends.

daslinkard

@TheX my daughters agree with your birthday wishes smh

Roland Taylor

That is just... sick.

Happy birthday to... ugh...

daslinkard

@RolandTaylor agreed

TheX

14:49

@RolandTaylor you made me do it though!

Arda Xi

So, Flagging 101: Flagging is srs bsns. If a flag passes, it suspends the flagged for at least 30 minutes. Not only that, but it pulls every active 10ker/mod into the room. Try to talk to the person before flagging, and only use that flag button if something needs to be removed NOW and the user can't be reasoned with. With that, I am off. Enjoy yourselves. :)

3

Roland Taylor

rlemon

just sayin

jrg

once again a 404 for me @rlemon.

rlemon

@jrg better?

jrg

14:51

Much better. heh

TheX

@rlemon lol

Roland Taylor

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Get album with covers when syncronizing with iPod http://askubuntu.com/questions/97908/get-album-with-covers-when-syncronizing-with-ipod #ipod

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on March 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM

TheX

Is that the Hispanic version of Bieber?

Roland Taylor

@TheX your wife called. She said your motel tickets are in the backyard.

TheX

14:53

@RolandTaylor get out of my basement!

Roland Taylor

@TheX no that's a picture... because I don't have enough words to describe how I feel :D

TheX

@RolandTaylor I see...

rlemon

daslinkard

lol

rlemon

and last one to show my hatred for the biebs.

TheX

14:56

Ohh wooaah
Ohh wooaah
Ohh wooaah

You know you love me, I know you care
Just shout whenever, and I'll be there
You want my love, you want my heart
And we will never ever ever be apart

Roland Taylor

@rlemon LOL

@TheX ...that's internal organ failure right there...

jokerdino

Justin Bieber? You must be kidding me.

Roland Taylor

TheX

Are we an item? @RolandTaylor quit playing
We're just friends, what are you saying
Say there's another and look right in my eyes
My first love broke my heart for the first time
And I was like...

rlemon

Step 1) Open console. Step 2) Type $('.user-container.user-23989').html(""); Step 3) Eff Biebs!

TheX

14:57

Baby, baby, baby oooh
Like baby, baby, baby nooo
Like baby, baby, baby oooh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)

Roland Taylor

D:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

I can't take it anymore!

TheX

For @RolandTaylor, @rlemon I would have done whatever
And I just can't believe we ain't together
And I wanna play it cool, but I'm losin' you
I'll buy you anything, I'll buy you any ring
And I'm in pieces, baby fix me
And just shake me til' you wake me from this bad dream
I'm going down, down, down, down
And I just can't believe my first love won't be around

rlemon

damn

that was my own id :( epic fail

jrg

ok guys, we've all wished bieber a happy birthday in our own manner, now please, drop it?

TheX

@jrg yes sir.

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