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Anwar

00:00

meh! someone is not satisfied with the answers :)

Serg

@Anwar didn't know you posted ruby as well, see my edit ^_0

( upgoated by the way )

Anwar

@Serg good

I'll delete mine :)

Serg

NOOOOO

@Anwar keep it

It's a good solution as well

IanC

good evening

Anwar

morning

Serg

00:14

Hellow, good fellow

IanC

how are you all doing?

Serg

eh, alive. Got one of my script featured on webupd8 blog, and gained some rep, but had to drop classes, and still got no money

IanC

webupd8? what is this blog about?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

I don't know what to do with Debian

Serg

They basically do review of software for Linux , in particular Ubuntu

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

00:19

Should I delete it? Do something about it?

Serg

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Just write some kind of code for Debian

Like I do for Ubuntu - I write scripts for Unity desktop

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

alrighty then

jeremy

@Zanna it did not work.

IanC

@Serg nice, what did your script do?

I'm thinking about doing a full disk LUKS, but I'll have to pick a distro. Don't think there's a way to dual boot with this set up

Serg

@IanC my script disables Super key from opening Unity Dash, if you are using any app that is in full screen. This is useful for gamers, who use Alt or Ctrl keys a lot, and accidentally press Super key - that makes them leave Super menu

Anwar

00:27

bbl. night all

(though it's morning here)

IanC

man, gotta write some double link list algorithms for the book, but I'm a bit tired

edwinksl

@Serg i am still getting interwebz points lol

Serg

@IanC Get some rest today, or just do a tiny bit of coding. You've covered lots of ground already. Here is link to the article by the way webupd8.org/2016/08/how-to-prevent-super-key-from-opening.html

@edwinksl i think gamers can appreciate the script ;)

IanC

@Serg Nice man! Think you're getting really good with python :)

would you log on utox for a second?

edwinksl

00:45

@Serg here is something for you to write an answer for :P askubuntu.com/questions/814338/…

i am too lazy to write

Serg

@IanC sure, will be there in a minute

Nathan Osman

01:20

o/

Serg

\o

Serg

01:58

Aaand im back

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to achieve native 1080p resolution with ubuntu 16.04 and Nvidia 980 ti graphics card

I've been trying since some time in February, but I haven't been able to get my 980 ti to recognize my monitor's native 1080p resolution. I can't remember when this started. I first tried fixing it after messing around with a crappy KVM that I ended up returning, but I've had the graphics card si...

Zacharee1

02:15

I think this applies here most of the time:

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edwinksl

^says the main culprit :P

Serg

@Zacharee1 that's 4chan, any day of the week

Nathan Osman

No, 4chan isn't even comparable to this.

At least we can string together coherent English sentences.

chaskes

Right. The smoker you get the player you drink.

2

Serg

02:30

@chaskes exactly right !

( even though i have no idea what is it all about )

chaskes

Hmm, apparently I didn't remember it quite right.

Classic rock that's too old even for me to remember when it came out, though it was still played on the radio in my day.

Serg

watching macaroni and eating horror games . . . oh wait, my tired is too brain

chaskes

:)

last.fm/music/Joe+Walsh/_/Rocky+Mountain+Way

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 around?

chaskes

02:47

@serg I hadn't seen your super key script before. Very nice and congrats on the webud8 article. That's a resume item.

Serg

@chaskes Thank you ^_^ That's exactly what i planned on doing - put link to it into my linkedin profile. As for the script itself, I can give you a link,either to script or to the original askubuntu question , if you wanna see it

It's python

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman why? Who wants to know?

chaskes

Oh, I found the original question from the link in the webupd8 article. @Serg

Serg

Ah, ok. Great ^_^

chaskes

だってばよ！

Nathan Osman

02:52

@Zacharee1 I need your advice on DSLRs.

chaskes

datte bayo. (What Naruto says in Japanese for Believe it!)

Zacharee1

well idk much about them...

Nathan Osman

You seem to know a thing or two about photography.

Zacharee1

I just have one :p

Nathan Osman

Well, which one?

Zacharee1

02:52

The Canon EOS Rebel T5i

I like it

My roommate from last year is more experienced than I am and he says Nikon cameras are higher quality

just not as pretty

does Photography do recommendations?

Nathan Osman

My cousin does photography for a living and that corroborates somewhat with what he said.

Therefore you are not trying to trick me :D

@Zacharee1 I don't think so.

Serg

@chaskes at some point I'll pick up japanese too . . . Lately , I've started re-learning spanish. I got the duolingo app for my phone because my friend has it, so . . . yeah, peer pressure XD

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman the help center looks exactly the same, so you could probably get away with asking something like "Is Canon or Nikon objectively better, and which would be better for <mycurrentsituation>?"

Nathan Osman

"better" is enough to trigger the low quality warning.

Zacharee1

well, that's why you need to specify what you need

do they have a chatroom?

Nathan Osman

03:00

Yes and the last message was two days ago.

Not exactly "active".

Zacharee1

just saw that

so much for asking there

Nathan Osman

So I can get the T5i body for $679.

I'd still need a lens.

Zacharee1

yeah...

Nathan Osman

Alternatively, I can get the T5 with a lens for less than that.

Zacharee1

only $779 for the default lens!

oh wait lol

it's the whole camera bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/…

Nathan Osman

03:01

Here we go: bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/-/…

That looks like a good buy.

They throw in a telephoto lens.

Zacharee1

This needs to be refreshed whenever it goes off screen

Nathan Osman

Le sigh.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman that's only a T5 though

Serg

@Zacharee1 your avatar needs to be refreshed, Mr. Gray Icon Man

Nathan Osman

I am not a millionaire (yet), so there's that.

Zacharee1

03:02

@Serg it works in Chrome

IanC

yaay! I got one of the algorithms working, apparently at least :P

the automated test is saying it's working, so.. :)

Zacharee1

plug-in.bestbuy.ca/t5/Visit-the-Plug-in-Blog/…

Serg

@IanC which one ?

IanC

@Serg the bubble sort algorithm, now I need to get the merge sort done and compare it with the authors sourcecode

Zacharee1

$900 for the 18-135mm lens!!??!

:(

IanC

03:05

but I think I'll do it tomorrow, my sleep has been fractioned on the last 3 days and maybe I should just get some proper sleep now

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Ouch.

Serg

@IanC congrats. Once you figure out those completely , try working on quicksort

Nathan Osman

I was aiming for the $500 range.

For everything.

Zacharee1

well the normal lense is 18-55mm

Nathan Osman

Yeah, apparently that won't work very well for macro shots.

Zacharee1

03:07

nope

IanC

@Serg does it work on double linked lists? I'll check it out :)

Zacharee1

I have a wide angle lense too, but I always like close-ups

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 would it be suitable for shooting, say, George's videos though?

He's usually a couple feet from the camera.

Zacharee1

The normal one?

you're getting a DSLR for video? :p

Nathan Osman

Yeah, the 18-55mm one.

Serg

03:08

@IanC it should.

It's very fast and frequently used sorting algorithm

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman idk, I don't really use the video funtion

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Not necessarily. But I imagine the controls are a bit nicer than my phone's camera.

Zacharee1

probably

I think it'd work

Nathan Osman

Do those lenses provide an optical zoom of sorts?

Or do I need to switch lenses to affect the zoom?

Zacharee1

as the range implies, it has zoom :p

Nathan Osman

03:11

The 75-300mm lens clearly states: "Closest Focusing Distance: 1.5 m". But nothing for the other lens.

Zacharee1

and for proximity shots, I think it's more than enough

Nathan Osman

Lol, for my phone camera, I have had limited success at macro shots with a magnifying lens.

Zacharee1

o_O

Nathan Osman

It can already focus at about 50-60mm.

IanC

@Serg have you ever looked into a big program source code? Was just wondering if you had any tips to understand a big project source code. I was thinking about maybe making flow charts, writing down lots of notes

Nathan Osman

03:15

@IanC I had to do that once when I joined a company that had a fairly large codebase.

The key is to begin with a very high-level introduction to how the project is organized by someone very familiar with it.

Serg

@IanC I looked into a few programs, such as the coreutils package ( you know, cat, df, grep, all the other programs) . There's not really any tips i personally can give, but usually I just grep recursively to find where functions are defined and stuff like that

In object oriented languages they use UML , which is like diagram flow-chart for relationship between classes. Maybe you could do that for functions.

Zacharee1

Lightroom would be really useful for this

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

YOU SHALL NOT CREATIVE CLOUD

IanC

@NathanOsman, that would be the best way I think, but only possible if you know someone involved with the project. At least most opensource codes have some guidelines comments. Nothing compared to have someone to guide you through it though :/

@Serg I've read the idea of doing flow-charts somewhere, and it sounded like a great idea!

Nathan Osman

Whenever I write a large program / script / website / whatever-it-is, I try to do exactly this. I give a bird's eye view of the package, describing briefly what each part does and how they fit together. The source code contains comments for those who want to know more.

IanC

03:21

like, at first glance every big code will be a mystery, then by doing some flow-charts with some notes on how specific parts of the program works, maybe you could get somewhere

Nathan Osman

The best advice I can give for someone writing software is to make things as modular as possible and stick to loose-coupling.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

yesterday, by Zacharee1

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD gimmeh

IanC

@NathanOsman, the examples of source codes I've seem follow those guidelines, they all seem to be really divided, with some independent modules merging together on the final program

loose-coupling is like hiding the internal variables right? making them available only through functions/methods?

Nathan Osman

Loose-coupling is making each component as independent as possible. It should be possible to completely remove a component without major changes to the application.

IanC

I think I get the idea, the result would be a much more organized code, and if some part of it needed to be fixed/updated the fact its all independent would make it much easier

Serg

03:30

personally, i just like going function by function. Figure out what one function does, then the other, and so on

Which is why you often will see my main function be somewhat simplistic, kind of read like english , but then each part is broken into functions

at least i hope to believe , that way makes code more readable

IanC

guys, I'll get some rest

Serg

See you later , Ian

IanC

have a good night you all! talk to you tomorrow :)

edwinksl

night!

IanC

later @Serg!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

03:44

yawn

Zacharee1

PeteZahDumb

►

edwinksl

i don't recall zach being up this late

Zacharee1

sorey

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: deleted folder and files details on AWS EC2 Ubuntu instance

I have AWS EC2 Ubuntu instance. I found some missing details like source code from application and some files. Now, i want to identify which user and when it's deleted from server. So, i need details of all file and folder details which are deleted by user in past 30 to 60 day's. May be server s...

ubuntu aws

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jeremy

06:01

@Zanna woa! i got it. updated my kernel version

Serg

06:30

@Rinzwind n00b of the day candidate detected askubuntu.com/q/814435/295286

James Tobin

how are you all?

Serg

Alive

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Me too

James Tobin

sounds good :)

Serg

welp . . . . in order to save me some muney, I'm gonna probably go nuke my droplet server

Zanna

06:44

@jeremy great! I should have said it only works if kernel is 4.*

Serg

hmmm, error establishing connection to my wordpress . . . probably got nuked

Zanna

I forgot about that... been on 4* for a long time now haha

evening @Serg ... that sounds unfun

Anwar

morning

Thanks @Anwar for pointing to a solution. But still I'm getting the same error. Please see my edits and suggest any solution if you can. Thanks — MYaseen208 9 mins ago

Serg

@Zanna evening. Not fun ,but probably doesn't matter now. I'm deleting my server anyway

Journeyman Geek

:(

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

06:50

RIP serg's server 2016-2016

and on the bright side...

PencilOS 30% made

being private until time is right :)

Zanna

omg... noob of the day @Anwar (morning!)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@Zanna Who is thy noob of the day?

Besides I feel bad for calling bad posts "noob of the day"

Zanna

no apparently I am the noob and didn't read properly

James Tobin

arrrrg

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Can't we call them the user of the day that didn't do research?

Zanna

06:54

sup?

James Tobin

@Zanna youre the last person I'd consider a noob lol

I goofed on the ping darn it

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

PencilOS is going to be a modified Android. :)

Zanna

it still worked though, weirdly!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Instead the android bot is replaced with ME

XD

James Tobin

oh funny

Zanna

06:55

the partial ping got me with autoglob or something

James Tobin

I'm a Chalet OS user that moved to Ubuntu because Ubuntu only thing I can get working well with 2 in ones when it gets to tablet mode

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Please: lets call noobs of the day > Users that didn't do research

Chrome?

James Tobin

I still have a chalet OS computer though. I'm moderator in the Chalet OS forums. Anyway I'm trying to get used to unity :)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin Funny that. I am a Outlook Staff

James Tobin

outlook.com?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

06:57

yup :)

James Tobin

I used to use outlook.com

now I made my own domain

Serg

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD users who don't do research are not always n00bs , and n00bs not always don't do research

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

n00bs LOL

James Tobin

my mail manager is zoho mail

Serg

Oh, lovely. I used to use zoho office sometime when i was in high school

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

06:58

PencilOS, probably coming Next Winter

James Tobin

zoho is pretty nice. It serves my websites as well as my mail. I wish that it had a mail block feature but other than that it's good

Serg

SergOS , probably never coming , because I'm too lazy and like using Ubuntu too much

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@Serg When will you step outta your UBUNTU ZONE

and make modified android roms ?

James Tobin

lol @Serg if I make a distro it will be TobinBridgeOS because there is a bridge near me among the world's longest called the Tobin Bridge in Boston.

Serg

em . . . when I know anything about android roms . . . or just making android apps at least . . .

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

07:01

or make LINUX DISTROS

sounds great to you ?

Serg

You know what would be funny ? LondonBridge OS. Why ? Because it would be on devices that constantly fall down

( my sense of humor is non-existent XD)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

LondonHasFallenOS

James Tobin

@Serg haha

BabylonHasFallenOS

if you are a Bible reader ;)

Serg

Did you guys know that PonyOS exists ? personally , i don't care about MLP, but it exists

James Tobin

haha yeah

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

07:03

PencilOS: Coming to Ubuntu :D

OR debian. OR fedora hat

James Tobin

(Y)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Oh great. Edge will now start paying you.

Time to switch Operating Systems

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD you talking about the new Microsoft rewards instead of bing rewards?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin NO its the browser

James Tobin

at least I still get credits from Bing search :)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

07:06

ITS GETTING PAID

cnet.com/news/…

Windows users: Time to switch to Ubuntu?

James Tobin

I still get Bing rewards and I am happy

when it switches to Microsoft rewards I will still get credis for bing searches on Linux

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

I am still a Outlook staff and I am happy

James Tobin

then I can get skype credits and make free voip calls

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

I get free skype credits for some reason

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD you sending peoples emails to the NSA lol

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

07:09

LOL

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD prob cuz u r shoutlook staff lol

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

erm no.

James Tobin

oh ok

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Sherlock no Sherlocking

Ok time to design PencilOS

BBL

James Tobin

haha

jeremy

07:18

@Zanna you think it's worth making a q/a on unix/linux se?

Anwar

dup to which one? askubuntu.com/questions/814458/…

Zanna

@jeremy yes, make a Q&A, I will upvote it

@Anwar have you got any candidates ? I don't remember seeing this question before

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

i am going to leave it there

whoo, 400 mb download

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Anwar

second one is better

not sure. you decide

James Tobin

07:35

tobinbridge.zohosites.com

what do you think?

Zanna

ugh no! not that face!

James Tobin

is politics allowed here?

Anwar

no

Serg

not really , we have separate room for that

Kinda nice site, except for Trump's ugly face

James Tobin

well the point of the thing is funny anyway

I like Trump though, but it is not a politics site. IT is a computer site and the point is good

Serg

07:39

goddamit, my question on security se already got 7 upvotes, yet no one is answering !!! Come on people

James Tobin

lol

Zanna

my question on sudo -i & pkexec has like 13 upvotes now and still no answer

Serg

@Zanna I'll look into it tomorrow

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Q: NOT AGAIN... NO, PLEASE, NO!

I am not sure if it was 15.04 or 15.10, when I had problems with WiFi connection every 5 minutes. Now we are there again with my Lenovo M30 and I hope I can send this question without a problem. Last time it took a long time before I had it fixed and and a lot of various scripts in the terminal w...

wireless

James Tobin

then Zanna will look into yours tomorrow ;) haha

Serg

nice title

Zanna

07:42

haha yeah

James Tobin

lol

Zanna

I have no clue about @Serg 's security question

James Tobin

me neither

sites.google.com/site/chaletoslinux/home

that's the project I'm actually involved in.

Ubuntu just using :)

Serg

looks lovely

James Tobin

ARGGGG why does askubuntu make you wait 3 minutes to write another answer? nothing but ANNOYING!

@Serg yes, it is very beautiful :) let me grab a picture of one of my desktops on that thing with the beautiful glass theme

Serg

07:55

Really strong Windows 7 or Vista with Aero vibes there. Hopefully runs much smoother ?

James Tobin

there are a lot of themes

it runs very smoothly. Actually faster than Ubuntu. UBuntu works better for tablet/laptop convertibles (2 in ones) that is why I am not using chalet lol

It is quite customizable

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

don't install win 10

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD why would I do that?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

it will leech you into using Edge

I just found out a glitch

I will name it: The TextSilence glitch >:D

Zanna

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD I don't think @JamesTobin is a windows user...

James Tobin

08:01

I sure am not!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

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James Tobin

Windows is pro abortion and spies on you and is the slowest os on earth

altough I still have my windows 3.1

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

I fancy Debian

James Tobin

It is 1992 model AST with dual 512 mb hard drives (MASSIVE for back then) 8 mb RAM (again massive for the day, this comp was extremely high end for it's day) and it has an intel 386 processor. Windows 3.1 runs on DOS 6.00

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: accidentally deleted interfaces ubuntu

I have accidentally deleted /etc/network/interfaces I have tried rebooting but the file is still blank. correction: file doesn't exist. creating file and rebooting now.

ubuntu networking

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

08:02

Correct

Zanna

I am blissfully Windows free :)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Just Kidding

James Tobin

@Zanna believe it or not windows 3.1 is good. Windows can not make any good OS's but it does know how to make a really good GUI windows 3.1

it's very very fast

good for it's day

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin ...because it is more lighter then cough cough 8.1

James Tobin

@Zanna try it in a VM

Serg

08:05

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD agreed

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

USE A LEGIT CERTIFICATE! I will be watching you

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD I can not stand the NT core and therefore can not stand windows 8.1 but If I had to chose betwenn 7, 8, 8.1, or 10 I would definitely do 8.1. I love windows 8.1 GUI and layout and start menu. But the NT core is so terrible

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@Serg Your agreement has been agreed. Windows 8.1 eats 3 GB

James Tobin

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD my 3.1 is original

no, it eats 2 gb

and so does 7 and 10

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin But lovely to start mass destruction by using a remove / command

James Tobin

08:06

believe it or not though windows vista sp 2 was actually stable, just the earlier releases gave everyone a sick impression and they reverted back to XP

Zanna

I really have zero interest in using Windows, even if it is good, I'm one of those ideological Linuxers

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

But XP is dead now

@Zanna Your a full tux?

James Tobin

Vista is good with sp2 but sitll has that horrendous NT core

DOS is good though. For it's day

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin have you heard of ReactOS?

James Tobin

eeeew

Zanna

08:07

Haha I use dosbox to play games, that's as close as I will get!

James Tobin

it crash crash crash

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

....

James Tobin

I tried it

also it is based on NT

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

It didn't work?

James Tobin

no way!

it BSOD and all I did was open start menu

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

08:08

Even on a real machine?

James Tobin

it was fresh install

ReactOS is still alpha I believe

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@JamesTobin It's still in ~~beta~~ Alpha

James Tobin

It's alpha

(Y)

lol

I HATE THIS STUPID TIME LIMIT ON MY POSTS!!!!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

~~If you see this message type in the chat AYE~~

James Tobin

I type very fast

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

08:09

me too

James Tobin

AYE

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

53 WPM baby

James Tobin

it really sucks. I'm serious, I type extremely fast

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

Fiddlekeys?

if I am really annoying in chat put this on chat:youtube.com/watch?v=EaK-F8YHPJk

I wonder what happens if i use Unity rather than GNOME in debian?

James Tobin

I dont think you can get unity in Debian

Zanna

08:13

Haha is that a matter of taste on the part of Debian devs ? ;)

James Tobin

I wanna grab out unity for Fedora. there are a lot of laptops that have trouble with drivers esp wifi drivers on Ubuntu yet love unity

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

LOL there is a video saying " Debian is better than Ubuntu "

James Tobin

SUSE doesnt come with enough basic utilities

Debian doesnt even cmoe with add apt repository

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

WTH goanimate

James Tobin

?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

08:15

NVM

I made a VM (OS: Windows 8.1) Guess* how fast it boots.

20 seconds

TOO SLOW

James Tobin

08:36

I'm back

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