@Videonauth servers are frying from all the heat

humans are getting fried too

goddamn hot

Last year it wasn't so hot

Global warming

Like I said, summer.exe is very buggy this year

True. For days we had endless rain, surrounded by extreme heat.

did you file a bug for that at LP yet, @Serg

@edwinksl I doubt mother nature checks its reports . . . at least not from humans

VTC opinion-based askubuntu.com/q/789128/295286

testing.

Hi

@SQuirel Hello! :)

Hii :D

Hello.

Anybody have a new answer for this question ?

okay, 16.04 now :P

I got many tools, but all of them uses internet :(

@NathanOsman why dontcha post a mention of Nitroshare there ^

Lemme look.

Oh, it's for Android.

NitroShare isn't available for Android yet.

Ah, that's a pity

I know. It's planned.

Is it difficult developing for Android ?

Just saw a post on my friend's wechat, she's still using 2.6 kernel. O. o

@Serg It's Java. Take a gander

@Zacharee1 what's a gander and why should i take it ?

@Serg Or is it difficult developing shareit (similar app) for linux ?

@Serg a guess

@SeverusTux i wouldn't know, since I've never developed an app like that

I am only semi-modest at developing highly inefficient scripts or average user quality

very odd behavior, wall isn't showing message inside GUI

only in tty

@DKBose leave a comment in bold saying that the question is clear and on topic

gotta restart my GUI, brb

@Serg, I think the first close vote was posted before I even saw the question. But the second one appeared later. That's the puzzling one. Maybe someone racing to earn a badge by performing so many tasks in a given time?

But I'll do as you suggest.

@DKBose don't, what's the point?

The question is answered, people will probably just leave it alone now

the votes will age away

Possible spam: askubuntu.com/questions/616650/…, anyone wants to see what's behind the shortened url?

This: webupd8.org/2015/04/…

@muru, ok. I'll leave it alone!

@DKBose so I suppose the flag's invalid - do you want to edit it to use the atcual URL?

@muru confirmed , I used unshorten.it to expand the actual link. Will edit in a minute

@muru leads to webupd8.org/2015/04/…

DK already posted a comment . . .

On a side thought, that's a poor answer . . .downgoat incoming

Added the link.

d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com

So apparently that's a thing.

@NathanOsman someone needs to start one for "irregardless"

That's not even a word :D

@NathanOsman very nice page for ads revenue collection

@Serg definitely

:)

<.< oh the irony

The OED goes on to explain the word is primarily a North American colloquialism.[5]

which is used around the world nowadays

so that's not colloquialism anymore

L I T E R A L L Y used around the world

We should make a page for literally as well

anyways is another candidate

And as @ByteCommander would suggest, I should make a page for proper spelling of below , not bellow

I hereby make a motion to change the room name from "Ask Ubuntu General Room" to "Ask Ubuntu Spelling Room". Cast your vote now!

( the joke is that i always put two L there )

so lloll instead of lol?

Ask Ubuntu Spelling Room prohibits use of ubantu obonto , ubnutu and any other misspellings of the actual OS name

\ (o).(o) /

...or my personal favorite, ubunut.

If I had a dollar for every time a user has used that spelling in their question...

@NathanOsman SECONDED!

Motion carried!

ubunut.com redirects to ubuntu.com

Well, considering that 16.04 mascot is a squirrel, there has to be something about nuts

^good point

As expected my sergrep repository gets big chunk of visitors from AU , but . . . .

who are the 2 people googling me ? O.o

Nathan Osman has changed the room name to "Ask Ubuntu Spelling Room".

Maybe i should rewatch Blackhat . . . Tang Wei is just qt there @_@

Hmmm , 22k results of jobs for C++ , 26k for python , 49k for Java on linkedin

37k for Linux keyword

what about javascript

34.9 k , almost 35k

What about Visual Basic? :D

7,776

they couldn't add one more ?

anyone looking for COBOL devs?

920 results for COBOL

Surprisingly , there's one ATM dev job for a bank Oo

wtf 920, i lost faith in humanity

there's a pentester job , mainframe dev . . .

( all from the COBOL search by the way )

a lot of it mainframe testers/dev jobs

probably some insane legacy code

423 results for FORTRAN

lol

i wonder who in AU knows fortran

Maybe some of the guys from the 80s generation ?

yeah

i wonder who still teaches fortran in school nowadays

OK , this is hillarious, read this requirements for "entry level" position

Qualifications

MS or PhD in engineering (Aerospace, Mechanical, Civil, etc.)
Over three (3+) years of professional experience in wind or closely related industry
Superior knowledge and experience of controls theory, design, and analysis related to the following disciplines: aerodynamics, composite structures, static and dynamic loads, aeroelasticity, and acoustics
Control system design and modeling using Matlab & Simulink
Wind turbine computational modeling experience with industry tools such as FAST, BLADED, HAWC, FLEX, ADAMS, SAMCEF, etc.

lol

what . . . the actual . . .turbine

"Control system design and modeling using Matlab & Simulink" though

rip open source

although to be fair, there still exists no open-source tool that comes close to simulink

That's not the worst part. How on earth entry level people are supposed too already know "industry tools"

someone with a phd could have picked up all those things

not expert level in everything

but probably knows something about everything in that list

that's not entry level at all though

that's like quite established controls engineer level

it's entry level phd position

just a matter of semantics lol

facepalms of semantics @edwinksl

Moving on to looking at what languages are in demand

that's from codingdojo

where did c/c++ go

lmao i am blind

no bash/awk? :(

Probably bash/awk is implied when you look up Linux Sysadmin jobs

...because iOS is totally a programming language...

LMAO

good catch Nathan

what did they actually mean though

swift?

Yup , it's listed as 9. iOS/Swift

@edwinksl Either Swift or Objective-C.

@Zacharee1 will be thrilled to see PHP in the list

So will George.

meanwhile @NathanOsman be like "i know 3 on this list, pretty good"

4... but who's counting :D

Meanwhile , I am like "I'm a n00b in 2 of these."

which 4?

Python, C++, JavaScript, and PHP.

I know the basics of Java and SQL too.

I very rarely use them though.

@Serg You're our Java genius!

And where's Perl? ಠ_ಠ

O_O genius ? in Java ? where did that come from ?

Hmm... sizeof(WNDCLASSEXW) does not match the size of the struct I created in Go to mirror it... what have I done wrong...

I'M NOT DEAD

uh . . . welcome back

hi.

it's been too long

Hello.

o/

so . . . considering the demand for languages we've been discussing here, maybe i should start learning SQL and javascript :/

@Serg Why not JQuery?

I am so thrilled:

Ta-da.

A complete Win32 UI application.

Isn't JQuery same as javascript ?

@NathanOsman looks impressive

...written in Go.

>:)

@NathanOsman woah that's 99% of the things i see on windoze

Oh . . .

So Go now has GUI API for Windows ?

There are other ones out there. But mine is going to be awesome.

how popular is Rust currently? just curious

:D

@edwinksl No idea.

As I understand it, Rust has a smaller community and fewer third-party packages.

12k jobs on linkedin that mention jquery by the way

hmm redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/01/14/language-rankings-1-15

Here's the source code: gist.github.com/nathan-osman/18c2e227ad00a223b61c0b3c16d452c3

Here's roughly what that looks like in C++: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/…

go looks oddly c-like

It is designed as a replacement for C.

so @Serg better pick it up ;)

It differs from C, however, in that the language itself offers concurrency primitives.

Channels are awesome.

yeah, i probably should . . . .

Gaaah, the network speed is atrocious right now, i can't watch Blackhat

nathan. how are you... what is Go...

@KazWolfe remember that page you made for me? The one with the floating lines?

@NathanOsman Yes.

did it break?

The server-side of that was written in Go.

really? neato.

@KazWolfe Not the page, no.

good morning

\o

how do people accidentally delete python? askubuntu.com/questions/789222/…

i am genuinely curious

@edwinksl typically that means "Well, I thought I don't need this package that i know nothing about, and i have no idea that some core components of the OS depend on it. SO LETS REMOVE IT"

like uh, rm -rf /usr/bin/python3 /usr/lib/python3?

i thought ubuntu had core protection

like how you can't remove apt and other stuff

um . . . you can remove pretty much anything with rm command

@edwinksl nah, they just do it via apt

But apt can't remove itself ,at least i don't think so

i might be remembering it wrong

apt purge --f***-you-apt apt

^ that will generate a flag probably

@edwinksl always self censor yourself just incase mods accidentally drop ban hammer on your head

xD

Obviously obvious

good call

time to self-censor

Meanwhile . . . it's 1AM in Denver . . . and I am watching cards against of humanity . . .

done with blackhat?

Nah, I closed it. Network speed was horrible

Why ? Because i was watching Blackhat on a Russian site

and it's probably like 10 am in Russia right now

Leehom Wang is in the movie too? lol

I can't stop laughing!

Yes he is :)

@NathanOsman lmao

top drawer stuff

@Sneetsher here ?

$ awk '{gsub(/s/,"th")}1'  <<< "This is Sparta!!!"
Thith ith Sparta!!!

@NathanOsman look , i can do that too !

except need to include caps

$ awk '{gsub(/[Ss]/,"th")}1'  <<< "This is Sparta!!!"
Thith ith thparta!!!

That's bettor

you should post it

i don't see awk yet

@SeverusTux yep

I'm not much of a golfer so i never considered joining that community

@Sneetsher Hi :D , I wanted to ask you sth about this ans : askubuntu.com/a/461831/497359

but sure

@SeverusTux ok

In 16.04 how to connect if its for the first time ?

how to provide ESSID and password

?

@Sa

I didn't verify much but the new way it to use nmcli c add

aaand posted

check with nmcli manpage guys

they have examples

okay

@SeverusTux "nmcli d wifi list" or "sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning"

Thats it :D

thanks :)

;D

you are welcome

Wooo, 2 upgoats for that awk command

YAY

Are 'upgoats' a Russian thing? :)

They are a StackExchange thing

In soviet Russia Stackexchange upgoats you.

@Videonauth Hi :)

Or goats one-up you on StackExchange

STarting to feel a little weird now......

hello andrew

Elelction fun over soon?

Soon, yes.

Ta-da again.

OS X this time around.

So once again the Close Votes queue will start growing :)

@NathanOsman If you're doing GUI in Go, have you considered andlabs/ui?

@NathanOsman NSAlert *alert ? Is that code supposed to detect presence of NSA lol

@Serg Welcome to the weird naming conventions of Objective-C.

Apple == Illuminati confirmed , 100% , where's my mountain dew and doritos ?

@BharadwajRaju I'll take a look.

@Serg passes pencil dew and doritios

thanks , i could use some of that right now

um

I need a program that will go fullscreen and show a flat black color

what's the easiest thing that will get that done?

oh I'll go with impress

Full screen as in no window decorations either?

@terdon yes

I'd probably go for a browser and a simple html page with a black background

I managed to use my screensaver to burn green stripes into my LCD monitor

by actively setting the screen completely black they're fading fast though

google docs presentation :)

hi all

any one there ?

hello

@badp convert -size 5000x5000 xc:#000000 blackbox.png and open that in something that allows it to go fullscreen without scrollbars.

impress was the easier thing, now I'm transitioning to the terminal with brighter and brighter bg colors so that I can actually USE the monitor

@Oli you're a python person, right? Is there an easy way to get the error message from a command? In Perl, I'd do try something or print "$!" where $! is whatever was returned as an error by "something". Any equivalent in python?

I'm trying to connect to a database and it's failing but I can't figure out if it's an authentication problem, a connection issue or what.

hi would this article still work on ubuntu 16? help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition

i have booted in from a USB stick using "try ubuntu" i have a SDD where i have windows and a working ubuntu. want to copy over the ubuntu to a new bigger partition. Was able to copy using gparted and give it a new UUID. but cant seem to get the Update grub and fstab

i was able to enable universe and get gksu

and make a user with a password

@terdon How are you trying? Inside a python script, if something like that failed, it would (normally) raise an exception. If you aren't try-excepting that, that will end execution and print out the stack track. If you are handling that with a try-except, you can use raise to temporarily see what the error is. Or print out something there if you need your application to keep running.

def mysqlConnection(dbHost=os.environ['MYSQL_SERVER'],dbUser=os.environ['MYSQL_USERNAME'],
                  dbPasswd=os.environ['MYSQL_PASSWORD'],dbDB=os.environ['MYSQL_DATABASE']):
    try:
        _db=MySQLdb.connect(host=dbHost,user=dbUser,
                  passwd=dbPass,db=dbDB)
    except:
        print("Couldn't connect to database with user=%s, db=%s, host=%s, pp %s" % (dbUser,dbDB,dbHost,dbPasswd),file=sys.stderr)
        exit(1)
    else:
        return(_db)

oh i missed Once you have booted to your original Ubuntu, mount the partition via gnome -> Places option

not sure what that means

log in with my old ubuntu - the one i want to get rid off?

@terdon Yeah that could be hiding anything. You could stick a raise in before the exit to get the raw exception.

@tgkprog I'm also not sure if that approach would work correctly with a GPT partition table. I suggest you post a question on the main site about it.

@Oli Ah! Sweet, I didn't know raise (been learning Python these past two weeks), looks like it's what I needed. Thanks.

Great, and of course the problem was that I was setting the variable name to one thing and calling it as another. Idiot.

:)

okay thanks

@terdon that source question on U&L, could 1set be an alias or something?

@muru 1set?

Typo. Just set, and anyway it turned out to be fi

@muru well done! Great catch!

I added an explanation of why it works when executed.

Heh

@terdon I was writing one when my spike guard's fuse blew.

Thanks!

No problem. And very well spotted.

Sorry about that, network's still weird

Wow, this combined function stuff with JS is pretty nice

I forgot about passing vars

Hello :D

Go to duckduckgo.com/?q=figlet+AskUbuntu&ia=answer

how do I find out what model my notebook touchpad is?

@ByteCommander how about xinput list | grep -i touchpad

@ByteCommander try lshw

⎜ ↳ SYN1B7F:00 06CB:7406 Touchpad id=11 [slave pointer (2)]

So that means it's a synaptics device, I guess...

@ByteCommander try xinput --list

mine is slightly more descriptive: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=16 [slave pointer (2)]

Uh oh...

Bug in lshw.

It dumps core if not running as root.

Not sure if that's a bug, it's supposed to be run as root. Did you try xinput?

Yes, I did. @edwinksl already suggested that. ^

But lshw used to print a warning and run anyway instead of dumping core.

xinput --list gives a nicely formatted short list

i like that

It also opens the Ubuntu bug reporting window.

odd

my lshw doesn't dump core when not running with sudo

something is up

Are you on 16.04?