Ask Ubuntu General Room

muru

00:02

@James need a hammer: askubuntu.com/users/554966/geflu-zafix

user139252

Stop! Hammer time!

muru

_/ ‾

Nathan Osman

00:29

o/

RobotHumans

o/

Henry WH Hack

o/

edwinksl

\o

RolandiXor

o?

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor is in the house!

RolandiXor

00:33

...and throwing things on the floor.

Nathan Osman

What happened?

RolandiXor

I just wanted to make a mess :D

RobotHumans

Does @NathanOsman have kids? Usually people that do say What did you do?

Seth

HAMMERTIME err.. something like that.

Feb 18 '14 at 2:29, 25 minutes total – 198 messages, 10 users, 9 stars

Bookmarked Feb 18 '14 at 2:54 by ɥʇǝS

@TheBrownOne :P

Nathan Osman

I love that one :D

I remember that bookmark everytime I hear that.

Seth

00:36

me too. I literally laugh out loud usually too.

RolandiXor

What is the hammertime thing about? (Other than MC I got dem flows like you never heard before when I start to drop bars you better hit the floor... Hammer?)

(Yes, I rap).

Nathan Osman

I can't rap, so I don't know.

George might be able to rap.

I never asked him.

RolandiXor

Can he spit the bars?

Drive in 32 42 moving cars?

Make the people be like rar rar?

Tim

askubuntu.com/election/5#post-784635

RolandiXor

(Trollstation reference)

Seth

00:39

@RolandiXor rar can make anyone mad. I recommend .7z when you need lots of compression.

RobotHumans

@Tim That made me giggle a little.

RolandiXor

@Seth xD

If you don't vote for Akiva, we will crash the convention.

RobotHumans

If I remember correctly, the convention disturbance debacles were the other way around... but oh well. Still funny.

RolandiXor

Trump (2015! - make time travel great again) actually said that his followers will crash the convention if he is not the nominee.

Why else do you think everyone had to fall in line :)?

RobotHumans

eh. he had it in the bag anyway. Hillary is the Manchurian candidate this time around. Bernie was just for show.

user139252

00:46

I'm so sorry for what I caused :P

RolandiXor

@RobotHumans honestly I think Bernie was a serious contender - but he came around before his time.

Nathan Osman

What the... askubuntu.com/election

Oh, you already saw that one.

RobotHumans

@RolandiXor That needs to come after the "basic income" wave that is bouncing around shakes out.

Journeyman Geek

@Seth .xz is supposedly even more efficient

RobotHumans

An interesting feature during moderator elections would be total-rep/years-in-community*(years-in-community/4) or something similar. like a community engagement score for Qs and As. similar for moderation-like tasks would be nice to be able to see at a glance also

2

RolandiXor

00:48

@RobotHumans basic income wave?

Nathan Osman

@JourneymanGeek .xz is LZMA2 right?

Journeyman Geek

I seem to think so

Nathan Osman

Xz

xz is a lossless data compression program and file format which incorporates the LZMA/LZMA2 compression algorithms. Since it shares the same compression formats, one can think of xz as similar to the 7-Zip program known mostly on Windows. xz has its own file format rather than the .7z format used by 7-Zip; notably, .7z lacks support for Unix-like file system metadata. == Design == xz compresses/decompresses single files as input, and does not bundle multiple files into a single archive. It is therefore common to compress a file that is itself an archive, such as those created by the tar or cpio...

Yup.

> "Build a FireWall, and make Yahoo Answers pay for it."

Journeyman Geek

oh

Nathan Osman

Bwahahaha.

Journeyman Geek

00:49

and lrzip for large files but I've never got it working

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman for that reason alone, he has my votings. All of them.

Unless he tries to take my gum.

Or tries to send me to school.

Nathan Osman

He can do it too.

Journeyman Geek

@RolandiXor they took my gum :(

Nathan Osman

He's yuuuuuge.

RolandiXor

@JourneymanGeek :O

NEVER TRUST THE GUBMINT!

user139252

00:50

Not much going on in the review queue. Guess it's back to homework for me.

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman very.

Journeyman Geek

Singapore's the only country where you can chew gum and say 'Its medicinal'

RolandiXor

lol wth

Nathan Osman

So... I went to work with an overcast sky and no jacket. Unfortunately it started raining :(

RolandiXor

Nice...

Nathan Osman

00:51

Thankfully, it was only raining where I got on the bus and not where I got off.

RolandiXor

That is why you need a Trump in your country. He can control the weather.

Nathan Osman

Please no.

RolandiXor

xD

is innocent

Nathan Osman

If those Americans elect the clown, I'm going to walk down to the border and help them build the wall.

RolandiXor

hahahahahaha

Wild Man

00:52

which clown?

RobotHumans

well, the choices are a clown and cruella deville

Nathan Osman

The bald one.

Wild Man

I was going to say there is no good choce

choice

RolandiXor

The best clown, the best.

RobotHumans

we should all write in McAffee just to see how weird things can get.

Nathan Osman

00:54

Aw man.

It's gone now.

I was going to post this:

> "Look, we can change Ask Ubuntu. That I will tell you. We're changing it, ok? And I understand what you're saying, I hear it all the time. People call me and say "Is Ask Ubuntu really dead?". Thats what they are asking me, its unbelievable. Ask Ubuntu is in big trouble, that I can tell you. But we are going to change it."

4

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman xD

Wild Man

I love a good challenge

RolandiXor

I hope someone remember to screenshot his entry.

A lot of important people wanted to read his entry.

Very important people.

RobotHumans

and I learned something new today. the deleted answer privilege doesn't apply to mod entries (should it)?

@RolandiXor the best people. with the best questions and answers.

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor Drat. Just reloaded the page.

Can't you mods see it even after deletion?

RolandiXor

00:57

@RobotHumans it should imho.

@NathanOsman not in this case.

Journeyman Geek

3

Nathan Osman

\o/

RobotHumans

@JourneymanGeek I didn't want to star that, but it felt right to do so. Good job on the screenshot

Seth

@NathanOsman same lol

RolandiXor

SWEEEEEET

Seth

00:59

but I made it back to the car before the actual downpour.

man, English has pour, poor, and pore -.-

RolandiXor

Fun fact: I have a whole folder of Ask Ubuntu classics on my computer :)

Seth

@RolandiXor haha me too

I probably don't have as many as you though

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor Have you submitted them to Gems?

gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman not all of them

Seth

RolandiXor

01:03

RobotHumans

why does @Eliah not have a diamond?

RolandiXor

ohh

It might be because /usr/bin/moderator lacks the --verbose option.

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor What.............. is that?

Seth

@RolandiXor I remember this!

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman I don't remember, but it didn't make sense then - and makes even less now.

Seth

01:06

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nathan Osman

It's also old.

Seth

You should see the smile on my face xD

I remember.

RobotHumans

@RolandiXor that is a classic. @NathanOsman it's an old AU family tree. I was van Helpsing back then and peachy was one of the few female users.

Seth

Anyone remember Mochan?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Seth

01:06

she made that iirc

RobotHumans

Vaguely. It was soooo funny at the time

Seth

Then Roland (I think it was Roland) made that image as a kind of joke on how terrible it was.

It was supposed to be an AU family tree.

RolandiXor

Indeed :)

Nathan Osman

So I'm @jokerdino's grandfather?

Or grand-mother?

RolandiXor

both?

Seth

01:07

With appropriate gender colours xD

guys, I can't stop laughing. help.

RolandiXor

I miss Mochan and Peachy - they were cool

Seth

Me too.

Nathan Osman

It isn't that funny, @Seth... :D

Seth

Thanks for sharing again @RolandiXor, I needed that :)

@NathanOsman you weren't there when it happened :P

(I don't think)

Wild Man

@seth do you have a minute for a question?

Nathan Osman

01:08

I always miss the fun...

RolandiXor

@Seth :D

Seth

@WildMan sure!

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman It was funny, not because it cast you to female, but because you looked at it and thought "What sorcery is this?"

RolandiXor

@RobotHumans what is your old name, I am trying to place you.

Seth

@NathanOsman Only because you're the only responsible one here :P

RobotHumans

01:09

@RolandiXor hbdgaf, Abraham van Helpsing, i don't remember what came before that...

Seth

(okay, you don't miss all the fun, remember April fools?)

RolandiXor

@RobotHumans ah yes!

Seth

@RobotHumans aking2012 or something, no?

Wild Man

@seth I have looked but can not find information on it but do you know if I can be a moderator on both sites at the same time? I do not believe there is a rule against it.

Nathan Osman

Yup.

RobotHumans

01:10

@Seth probably 1012

Seth

and then TheV, and then hbdgaf I think. Maybe one in between.

@WildMan The forums and Ask Ubuntu?

Wild Man

yes

Seth

I see no reason why you can't, if you have the time :)

RobotHumans

It would be nice to have a mod on both to sort of trans-moderate question to forum migrations.

Seth

There are quite a few moderators on other Stack Exchange sites that are also moderators elsewhere, although I don't think that is true of any on Ask Ubuntu at this moment.

@RobotHumans ah, right.

edwinksl

01:11

lol reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4n8gic/make_askubuntu_great_again

Nathan Osman

Oh, I forgot the awesome news.

Scaleway is open for signups now.

RolandiXor

@Seth not currently. But for a while I was also a GM

Nathan Osman

6 x86 64bit Cores
8GB Memory
200GB SSD Disk
200Mbit/s Unmetered bandwidth

...for €9.99/month

That's a steal.

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman well damn.

RobotHumans

Yes, yes it is. That's a full on weak desktop on consumer internet. So, a sort of desktop away from your desktop.

Wild Man

01:12

I think I have the time now, I did slow down for heath reasons but I am better now.

Nathan Osman

@RolandiXor It's in France though, so latency could be an issue.

Seth

@edwinksl heh, so it was all a reddit stunt?

Wild Man

my laptop keyboard is going out and it skips letters and words sometimes

Journeyman Geek

I thought scaleway was all arm?

edwinksl

@Seth seems like it lol

Journeyman Geek

01:14

@NathanOsman I have a server on their dedi offering

Seth

@WildMan well you are certainly welcome to join the fray!

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman yeah I'll be sticking with DO, but good to know there is that option if the need arises.

Nathan Osman

They also don't have a CoreOS image.

@JourneymanGeek nope, they have amd64 servers as well.

Journeyman Geek

which is handy

Nathan Osman

@Seth oh boy... I can leave my comment after all :D

Seth

01:15

@NathanOsman your comment on reddit almost makes me sad, because it is mostly true :/

Wild Man

@seth I am thinking about it, looks like stiff competition from a 3 or 4 people at least

Seth

definitely :)

@NathanOsman but upvoted nonetheless xD

Wild Man

I have to see if my the forum has an issue with it

edwinksl

nathan = george_edison? TIL

Nathan Osman

Indeed.

Although George has his own account now.

RolandiXor

01:19

@edwinksl George is J.A.R.V.I.S irl.

Nathan is Tony Stark without the stink.

And I am some guy who knows too much and has glowing blue eyes... not sure the relevance of that but there you go.

edwinksl

@RolandiXor that makes perfect sense, not sure how i missed all that

RolandiXor

Nathan hides it well.

Seth

@WildMan I can't see why they would.

Wild Man

@seth I do not think they will either but I think it is best to ask first

Seth

sure.

Wild Man

01:23

more about respect

Nathan Osman

01:46

What in the world, Facebook...

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Eh?

Nathan Osman

It randomly generated an "ad" for my app.

"a cross" - what does that even mean?

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Beats me

Nathan Osman

Weird.

Android Dev

@muru @ByteCommander Well, looking at my rep history, it looks as though I was affected by that stupid script as well. Although for me it was only a single unaccept :)

muru

01:52

@AndroidDev I don't see anything like that

Android Dev

@muru My answer to this was accepted, unaccepted, and then accepted again:askubuntu.com/questions/781119/…

muru

I'd say that was the user experimenting, not the script..

Android Dev

@muru Possibly. BTW, have you notice that the number shown on the red inbox notification symbol is often not accurate?

noticed

Seth

shouldiblamecaching.com

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman nice - Atom.

Nathan Osman

02:00

@RolandiXor the text editor? That's Sublime.

Android Dev

@Seth Well, that's... Interesting.

thisisnotarealwebsite.com actually, it is.

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman :O

Tim

timonline.tk/TechSpecs

RolandiXor

It's like I don't even know you D:

Tim

@Seth Urgh, I've been stuck for 30 minutes not getting my @media query to work... Turns out Cloudfare disable developer mode after 3 hours, so my CSS was cached.

Android Dev

02:05

What's this domain even good for? thisisnotarealwebsite.com

Henry WH Hack

Hello Everyone! I am trying to hack smokedetector. :)

Android Dev

And how are you going about that?

SQuirel

@NathanOsman hi

Nathan Osman

@SQuirel hello.

Henry WH Hack

@AndroidDev I am trying to make him say something.

SQuirel

02:07

George the Dev uploaded a new vid! :D

Android Dev

And you are accomplishing that how?

Henry WH Hack

@SQuirel Hello! :)

SQuirel

@HenryWHHack Hi :)

Henry WH Hack

@AndroidDev I can hack into undo account but that's illegal so I won't. :D

Android Dev

@HenryWHHack And I'm not sure its a good idea to talk about hacking the smoke detector with mods in the room :)

SQuirel

02:10

@HenryWHHack you wreck anything in mtrek yet?

@NathanOsman Are you going to still be a mod after the election ?

Nathan Osman

I'm not a mod.

At least, not on Ask Ubuntu.

SQuirel

But your name is blue...???

Android Dev

@SQuirel From what I've heard, once a mod, always a mod.

SQuirel

ok

Tim

world building

Seth

02:14

A mod on any site is a mod on all chats, except SO and MSE.

Nathan Osman

@MarcoCeppi:

Henry WH Hack

02:25

Let's see here the help page said use !!/help to get smokedetector help page.

NathanOsman o/

Wild Man

@seth I posted to see what my people tell me n the forum about running for moderator here, so a few hours I will know for sure.

Seth

ok!

Wild Man

I apologize for my keyboard on my laptop it keeps dropping letters

Seth

no problem :)

Wild Man

the wiki situation sure is a mess

Ravan

02:47

hi

Nathan Osman

@Ravan hello.

Seth

@WildMan yeah..

I was going to send an email to the docs team about it, with maybe a few ideas, but it seems there isn't much of a docs team left anymore.

Nathan Osman

All they need to do is install MediaWiki.

Seth

@NathanOsman If you wanna get the scripts set up, go for it.

That's basically what Jorge told me.

Nathan Osman

Scripts?

Wild Man

02:55

@seth I receive email from them anytime they communicate and the issue is being worked on

Seth

@NathanOsman migration scripts.

@WildMan Yeah, I'm subbed to the community team mailing list.

Meantime tons of people seeking membership are stuck..

Nathan Osman

Because of the spam lock?

Seth

yeah

Nathan Osman

Members can still edit, so if they can send their additions to one of us...

@Seth Are there really a ton of people seeking membership?

Seth

@NathanOsman well seeing as belkinsa is pushing it and the forums having a permanent banner encouraging people to seek membership, I'm pretty sure there are :)

Wild Man

02:58

@seth they are putting together a team but not sure when they will get started. I offered to help post peoples info on a wiki page until it is fixed

Seth

@WildMan you can throw my contact info down for that too, if there's a public place somewhere.

Wild Man

@seth I do not think this is one yet, but I believe it will be soon. I will let you know

Videonauth

03:14

good morning

Mateo

Woo this is fun

Henry WH Hack

@Videonauth Hello! :)

Henry WH Hack

03:51

11:51 PM

jokerdino

@NathanOsman eh what o.O

Videonauth

ok since this answere here askubuntu.com/review/late-answers/576796 is a exact duplicate of the one muru mentioned what to flag it for, its neither spam, nor rude or abusive, neither is it not an answer

jokerdino

flag other as duplicate answer

Wild Man

it was a copy and paste basically, I saw it earlier

not good that they are using sudo on a gui app

Nathan Osman

@jokerdino Don't look at me.

Someone put together a "family tree".

Seth

04:04

@WildMan I am curious, is your forums post about moderating both public? I'd like to see what people say.

ah shoot. I connected my Windows Phone 7.8 device back to my live account with an app password (because 2FA) and now it's in a reboot loop of sorts.

trust microsoft to muck with old versions..

Wild Man

@seth no it is in the staff section, and no replies yet most admins will not be on for a few more hours

Seth

@WildMan oh okay. I guess you guys do stuff differently over there :)

what is wrong with this phone now... seriously o_O

Wild Man

@seth we have a secton where everything is open for people to see but I posted just for the admins

Seth

right

Wild Man

I know if I go ahead I will be hurt from inactivity for a while but I was busy with busy then I had a heart attack but all is good now, so I figured I might as well go for it, at least I can explain the lack of activity. I logged in almost everyday I did not do much. I have not felt this good a a very long time.

Seth

04:10

That's.. great! I guess :)

Heart attack not so much, but if you're feeling much better that is good.

Wild Man

it is that I feel a lot better

I almost died

Seth

yikes! I'm glad you are doing better now.

My grandmother had a heart attack some time ago.. A quadruple bypass saved her life.

But that was probably different from your situation, because she was 80-something at the time.

Wild Man

I had to recover from having a 90 percent blockage in my main artery, the Doctor told me they call it the widow maker, almost everyone blocked like that dies.

Seth

wow, that sounds very scary..

Wild Man

Indeed I am 51

that is why the absence

Seth

04:14

Ahh, yes. Now that you mention it, I do remember noticing that you had not been around much.

Wild Man

not by choice

Seth

That's nice to know. So many people come and go around here that I didn't really think much of it.

but I like committed users, we need more :)

Wild Man

I have been around ubuntu since 2008

Seth

I meant Ask Ubuntu.

vasa1 used to frequent here, for example.

Now I hear he became a forum moderator. Good for him.

Wild Man

yes about a month ago

I know we talked about good people just quiting a long time ago

I am surprised he is not still active here

that is an awesome bot

Seth

04:23

I know right?! It's amazingly handy.

@WildMan yeah, I'm not sure there is really any rhythm or reason to it.

Wild Man

is it working yet?

Seth

is what?

Wild Man

is the spam bot totally operational?

Seth

oh, yes it is.

Wild Man

I have been practicing scripting more lately but far from being good at it. My wireless script sure has gotten popular, it is all over the net

Seth

04:29

yeah, it's awesome!

RPi Awesomeness

Tek Syndicate did a really useful Tek Linux video about advanced use of BASH

Jacob Vlijm

@Seth still around?

Seth

yeah

just realized I forgot to answer your question

@RPiAwesomeness dat pun doe -.-

RPi Awesomeness

Pun?

Jacob Vlijm

Silly question, but could you indicate the time spent daily on the janitory section of the job?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

04:34

0

Q: iptables configuration

I'm trying to setup iptables, the forward rules are workin fine, but the output rules are making problems. I Can't access internet from the hosts beheind the firewall neither the firewall server can ping www.google.com . And the hosts can't ping www.google.com too, the ping didn't worked with i...

Seth

yeah so.. Here's what I did anyway. For the first year (2014-2015) I handled around 800-1000 flags a month. But that's a lot. Way too easy to burn out. After that I handled around 400-600 a month. Lately I've been handling closer to 200-300; partly because my life has gotten busier and partly because I want to spend a bit more time in other parts of Ubuntu and answer more questions.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: These shouldn't have been downvoted

Software Center will not start from icon and Ubuntu Store won't launch? shouldn't have been downvoted. It this more of the malicious up-down voting?

discussion

Wild Man

@RPiAwesomeness, thanks for the bash video

Seth

But if you can spend a solid 5 minutes a day in the queue plus a bit more time here and there for complicated stuff (voting investigations, meta, answering stuff in chat) I'd say you're good. @JacobVlijm

RPi Awesomeness

@WildMan :)

Jacob Vlijm

04:37

@Seth That doesn't sound so bad :)

Seth

If you can be consistent with ~100 flags a month I like you. One thing I learned: Don't burn out, just be consistent.

But I find keeping myself above 200 isn't hard at all.

Wild Man

@seth that is not much time at all, I use to be on the forum 15 hours a day

Seth

@WildMan wow, that's a lot!

Jacob Vlijm

@Seth then you did a lot!

Seth

I used to spend something like 5 hours a day, but not all at once.

Jacob Vlijm

04:39

@Seth Thanks for the info!

Seth

no prob.

Wild Man

@Seth I have slowed down a lot and I just take my time and still get a lot done without getting burnt out

Seth

@WildMan exactly. It's better to have 20 moderators each doing enough that they're helping, but not burning out, than it is to have 5 full time just burning through everything.

Wild Man

I tell all the newbies to slow down because if you burn to bright you burn out fast

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness "bash your head in"

Videonauth

04:50

Well again good morning crew :D good morning henry

slowly cattching up with what i missed the past 7 hours

Seth

anyone know of a good gui diff'ing tool?

Wild Man

@seth looks like the last gui for diff was for 13.10

Seth

hmm, there is a nice one called meld, but it only handles files and folders. Usually I'm working with raw text that isn't necessarily in a file.

I found one called kdiff though, that seems to be working.

Henry WH Hack

FUN FACT: The only way to easily change my public ip address is to upgrade my internet plan.

?

ISP are robbing us.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

05:06

0

Q: Forcing zpool to use /dev/disk/by-id in Ubuntu Xenial

I'm giving the bundled OpenZFS on Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial a try. When creating pools, I always reference drives by their serials in /dev/disk/by-id/ (or /dev/disk/gpt on FreeBSD) for resiliency. Drives aren't always in the same order in /dev when a machine reboots, and if you have other drives in th...

ubuntu zfs

Wild Man

good night all

Seth

good night! I will be going to bed as well. 2200 here.

Luís de Sousa

05:42

@Braiam : Please stop editing my posts. Thank you.

Severus Tux

Hello friends :-)

Henry WH Hack

@SeverusTux Hello! :)

Severus Tux

Hi :D
Hm... so only 10 candidates ??
@JacobVlijm @Serg @NathanOsman Hello :D You guys have any plans of nominating yourselves ? . Only then there would be some real tough competition

Nathan Osman

Nope, I can't commit to the time required to do the job properly.

Henry WH Hack

@SeverusTux I care to but I can't. :(

@NathanOsman Sorry

I love mods. :)

Mudit Kapil

05:54

Most of the people have small community at their native places and They do post a great Answers,whereas I am an alone warrior learning through Internet. and AskUbuntu :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: How Legal Steroids Will Allow You To Get Health Goals? by kaeithfisher on askubuntu.com …

Mudit Kapil

@NathanOsman Has a smiling face but behind this a cruel devil is hidden,I am just kidding. :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: advancedtrimsite.com/beard-czar/ by milozmcoy on askubuntu.com …

Mudit Kapil

Please Don't take it Offensive

Jacob Vlijm

@SeverusTux Just did a few seconds ago :)

HAMMERTIME err.. something like that.

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