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16:01
@ParanoidPanda Right here
@A.B. congrats, my legendary friend, :D
@Serg Uhm... What is this supposed to tell me?
@ByteCommander So yesterday we were talking about bears, and @ParanoidPanda asked a bear ? where ?
^ that was my response to him
Great, CentOS ... done, Wordpress ... Done Time: 30 minutes
@Serg Thx =)
@A.B. you're doing CentOS too ? Nice
@Serg Yes, RedHat for my new job, >>> CentOS
user136984
16:04
@Serg: I missed it! I was looking at Iron Maiden so I wasn't concentrating on chat, could you post again...? :P
user136984
If that was a bear to me.
@ParanoidPanda it was a pedobear. it got deleted
user136984
It was a what?
I LOVE IT
@ParanoidPanda google it
user136984
16:05
Uhm... I'm not sure I want to... :P
user136984
Could you describe it?
@ParanoidPanda pedobear is a combination of two words - pedophile and bear, and it comes from 4chan, again . . . it's a meme . . . .Probably a spinoff of the Rilakkuma
@RPiAwesomeness as long as it doesn't have broadcom, it's good to go
Well, it has an Ubuntu preinstalled certificate
I'm seriously considering it
For that price ....
oh you already know :)
user136984
@Serg: What's "Rilakkuma"?
@RPiAwesomeness amd graphics ... oh dear
I've heard that AMD has actually been better than NVIDIA recently
16:08
The spinning disk. Check if you can easily replace it yourself.
user136984
@Serg: Also, I can't see your qTox profile picture, has it gone or can I just not see it?
@ParanoidPanda You can look it up on wikipedia.
@StefanoPalazzo Definitely will
@ParanoidPanda I never uploaded one
16:09
@RPiAwesomeness as long as you are not looking for cutting edge ... they tend to be slow releasing updates for newer distros
user136984
@ByteCommander: I looked up hentai on wikipedia and I found lots of unpleasant images, so I don't think I'll be doing that again for something which is likely to be sexual related...
@fossfreedom Ah. Well, so long as I can get the Radeon drivers at all, even if they aren't the newest, I'm fine
9hr battery life ... impressive!
Really? Dang
I'm sure that's a bit high, but holy crap.
chromebooks have 8 hours battery life, lagging just one hour behind
16:11
I think I'm going to get it. It's a Thinkpad so it should last me a long time and definitely will last me through the next 3 years
@Serg Yeah, but they have crap specs
user136984
@Serg: Oh... :D
user136984
@hg8: Do you no longer have a qTox avatar or is it that I just can't see it?
@ParanoidPanda I quickly checked it out through Torbrowser, the worst image on that site is some ASCII-Art of that bear.
user136984
@ByteCommander: Well, I still don't think that I want to see it...
Is this a stupid bug? Shotwell can't identify files without suffix? e.g. PNG???
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Q: Shotwell Viewer can't open files without file ending

AishwaryaI am using Ubuntu 14.04 virtual machine when I try to open an image without file ending(.png) using shotwell viewer,it shows "Shotwell does not support the file format of /home/[USER]/Pictures/testImage." Can anyone help me with this What can be done? How can I view image without the extension ...

16:17
What's the gnome image viewer called again
eog?
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@A.B. Do you have that one too?
@kos eog?
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No the problem:
Same problem here in Wily — A.B. 5 mins ago
16:18
@kos yes
For me, it's a bug
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@A.B. And if you rename it works?
I really don't like sending people to launchpad.........
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Well if it works renaming it, indeed
but, yeah, close as bug.
@kos with a suffix, it works, yes
Leider gibts das nicht
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16:19
@A.B. Weird anyway. Checking extensions is a Windows thing
sudo apt-get purge shotwell
Don't assume people know what a bug report is, or how to file one. @A.B. :)
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@A.B. Yes, same for me as well
@kos I write a bug report
@StefanoPalazzo I'm writing
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@A.B. Yeah, if you can. Post it as an answer then, so that we don't have to close the question
16:27
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Q: What prewritten Pro-forma (aka AutoReviewComments) userscript comments can we use and share?

Octavian DamieanI'd like to gather a list of boilerplate comments (AKA canned responses) for Ask Ubuntu which can be used in combination with the awesome Pro-forma comments userscript. Post suggestions too, you are not required to use the script. Please wrap your comments into a code-block for easier copying.

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this hasn't been edited in a year
maybe some of you don't know about it
rocks the house
The bug is 4!!! years old
@Hi @kos @StefanoPalazzo :)
Ubuntu: Oneiric 64-Bit up-to-date Unity: 3D Shotwell: 0.11.2 What you expected to happen: When double clicking a file that has no file ending with Shotwell Viewer it should detect the image type and open it accordingly. What happened instead: "Shotwell does not support the file format of /home/[USER]/Pictures/testImage." 'file testImage' in terminal: testImage: PNG image data, 256 x 256, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
shotwell (Ubuntu)
Low / Triaged
Priority low. Nice :\
purging again
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@A.B. Well at least it's assigned
@kos Hope dies last.
Folks, please more votes please: bugs.launchpad.net/shotwell/+bug/878472
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That's a annoying bug
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16:32
@A.B. Starred that
The bug is Linux not worthy.
suffixes, who need suffixes
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It looks like it has been assigned about 9 days ago, so that's quite recent
We don't need no stinkin suffixes!
@Terrance Yes my friend!
@A.B. Hello!! =)
16:34
@Terrance Btw, CentOS is GREAT =)
@A.B. Added an "affects me too".
@ByteCommander Great =)
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@Terrance Read it / sing it as in "Another Brick In The Wall" :D
The accepted answer has -3? askubuntu.com/a/120709/367165
Funny
@A.B. It really is. Nice for servers, and works good for everyday use as well. I still love my Ubuntu setup though for certain applications like HandBrake, etc. where the support is better in the repos.
@kos Now I will have that song stuck in my head all day long! =)
16:37
@Terrance I'm happy =)
The best thing, an activated firewall.
user136984
Is @muru around? :)
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@Terrance :D
@A.B. "If you are lost in path environment" seems like the start of a survival documentary
@A.B. =)
LOL
I have to agree about the path environment statement. It is quite humorous! :D
16:43
0
Q: Installing Expect and TCL

NotNotLogicalI downloaded the source for expect5.45, and am attempting to install it. tclsh is on the system at /usr/bin/tclsh, but I'm not sure if that means the machine also has "tcl" installed? The instructions for Expect state: By default, the Tcl source directory is assumed to be in the same direc...

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@Seth What's the current status of that Unity bug? I've got some spare upvotes on my answer some days ago, I thought of updating it but I don't have insights. In any case the fix won't be released before Xenial, correct?
@kos The Unity bug? Which one? Or did you mean "Unity, the bug"?
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@ByteCommander I'd star that, but it's too easy to get a star for bashing Unity. :)
:D
Not that I could buy me anything with stars...
Not even a badge, I think.
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@ByteCommander Actually there's "Outspoken" (silver badge, get starred in 10 different messages by 10 different users)
16:50
@kos That was one of the first badges I got. Probably 9 months ago already... :P
They should add a golden one for 100 or 200 stars.
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@ByteCommander Okay, you beat me on that one. I'm not so popular. :D
I'm pretty sure that you're supposed to print the stars out and give them to your mother so that she can hang them on the refrigerator.
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@ByteCommander On that, I think they should add a golden badge for "Sportsmanship", or better make it awardable multiple times.
Or maybe no thinking about it twice, just the golden badge. Multiple times could be easily abused.
Any Help?
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Q: Ubuntu 15.04 Cinnamon problem...?

Ozan Muratenter image description here Any help ?

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@A.B. Lol
16:56
@kos should be done before xenial yes. Current status for me is: life intervened, no time :/
We shouldn't comment sarcastically
@StefanoPalazzo No? :\
New users might not know how the format works
They may think that this is like a forum, where people go back and forth establishing the problem
@StefanoPalazzo ok, sorry =}
Not to worry :)
16:58
@StefanoPalazzo Sometimes I can not restrain myself. >:)
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@Seth Indeed. :D No pressure obviously, just wanted to give a brief update for others reading (also because the answer still reports Nautilus as the cause of the problem).
yeah. I'm not convinced I have the skills to fix the (now) deeper bug, but I intend to try.
(this was supposed to be a papercut lol)
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It's always like that. :D
ikr xD
17:17
@kos Just looked it up, I got it on my 39th day on AU, which was Feb 19.
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@ByteCommander 9 months here and still I have to see that one
I need some help, what's the output of wget -q -O- http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release | grep 'restricted/binary-amd64/Packages'
 cc40839b401c52259c842a19ce5b1f57           184141 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages
 ce1f8bec5381dd2e138231eb84ddf11a            15974 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
 f80e229c51be7e2c16ce70fb13053619            13028 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
 d6e2ffd215a8c9827d77ee9756ef1bf60ab5903f           184141 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages
 10ea92b020dc2cdef52637576406d221b96bf56b            15974 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
 d4b0ac272c53899f2ac69020b4bb2abdc54873e4            13028 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
@A.B. I think beeline might be installed with hiveserver2. But I don't know.
I'd really like to try it...
on monday.
@StefanoPalazzo Is this a deb or an other archive. I've never installed hive.
17:22
It's Java. So it's probably some fantastically complicated contraption that doesn't make any sense and takes hours to start :P
I.e. I'm not sure.
These people, honestly....
@RPiAwesomeness Thank you =)
@A.B. np :)
user139252
I had four students show up to class this morning
it's cold out this way.
@HeatherBrown Is that strange?
17:26
How can it be, that the OP here askubuntu.com/q/698849/367165 has no output and @RPiAwesomeness has and me too.
@A.B. DUnno
@A.B. Does launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors help in any way for the question? It shows a list of available repo mirrors and how up to date they are...
@A.B. I have no idea either. I get output as well.
@A.B. in case it helps ...
wget -q -O- http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release | grep 'restricted/binary-amd64/Packages'
cc40839b401c52259c842a19ce5b1f57 184141 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages
ce1f8bec5381dd2e138231eb84ddf11a 15974 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
f80e229c51be7e2c16ce70fb13053619 13028 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
d6e2ffd215a8c9827d77ee9756ef1bf60ab5903f 184141 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages
10ea92b020dc2cdef52637576406d221b96bf56b 15974 restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
user139252
@RPiAwesomeness I'm supposed to have 12 in that session.
17:28
@HeatherBrown Oh...yeah...I could see that being strange
@ByteCommander Nice list, thank you =)
Some are up to a week behind... :P
or "Last update unknown" great =)
user139252
I bought 2 dozen donuts for my two sessions to share, figuring 12 in each session.
Mine is currently 1 day behind.
user139252
17:29
Looks like I'm just going to get fat off donuts today...
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@A.B. "Last update unknown" = they lost the memory of it since then?
@HeatherBrown If I was in your class, you'd not have to take any of them back home! ;D
@HeatherBrown :D Yay for surprise donuts
@MrRoth Scroll a little bit up
@A.B.: y0
17:30
@MrRoth Two guys have tested the command and all had an output
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@HeatherBrown If I were them I'd have showed up even just for the donuts
@MrRoth You do not come from India or?
a smoke, BRB
user139252
I told them last week that they would get donuts
@A.B.: i have tried many different dns namespace providers, all are the same.

$ cat /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN

nameserver 64.6.64.6
nameserver 64.6.65.6
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220
user139252
And that if they turned their work in this week, they would get a $5 gift card to Starbucks or McDonald's, their choice.
user139252
17:33
Out of 12 students in session 1, 4 showed up, and 2 had work to turn in.
user139252
I am never teaching Character Education on Fridays again.
O.o
What age were your students about again?
user139252
Their work isn't technically due until the week after next, but it wasn't much so I was going to reward the early birds.
user139252
This class ranges from 13 - 18
Geez, I know I woulda :P
user139252
17:34
It's an elective course.
That's a big range.
user139252
@ByteCommander Yeah, my school ranges from 7th-12th grade. It's mostly independent study, but we also offer small-group instruction courses. On Fridays, I teach two sessions of Character Education, which is open to any student.
@MrRoth Where do you live?
@HeatherBrown I don't think I've ever heard of a similar subject. How do I have to imagine "Character education"?
@MrRoth Perhaps someone has a problem, that you use restricted packages
It's possible to use tor with apt?
user139252
17:41
@ByteCommander I teach about responsibility, grit, gratitude, etc.. General good character traits we want to see in all of our students to help them succeed.
Character education sounds like something from a gulag.
@A.B. Dunno, I only ever use torbrowser. Too lazy to properly set up tor. :-/
during boot repair I am getting this error:GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
how can a unformatted partition have a flag?
@ByteCommander It should be possible.
@chili555 My graphics card and Ubuntu logo and screen flickers during boot it is AMD HD 6450 using proprietary driver
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@edwardtorvalds Why couldn't it?
@chili555 Intel Pentium G3240 3.10Ghz
Sorry, @intex, I know nothing about video. They don't allow me to tinker with those complicated things.
@kos I am not getting the option for that, its greyed out
user139252
17:45
@A.B. yes, you can TOR apt. I've done it before.
@kos Is your name is Rahul
user139252
sudo torify apt-get install foo bar
@kos got it :p
@HeatherBrown Thx =) @MrRoth read this ^^^^^ sudo torify apt-get install foo bar
torify great =)
@Fabby hi fabby whats up?
17:49
Thank goodness for VLC's speed up playback feature :D
Makes lecture videos so much easier to handle
@A.B. What package should that be in?
@ByteCommander sudo apt-get install tor
user139252
@Bytecommander Part of the tor and torsocks
Ah. i thought it was a separate tool.
@ByteCommander You need apt-file =)
% apt-file search --regex /torify$
tor: /usr/bin/torify
17:50
@A.B. Its not a bug its a feature
The offending class is in that source
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@edwardtorvalds You didn't apply the changes, did you? ;)
And another one with this problem: askubuntu.com/a/695815/367165
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@intex Have you ever posted something other than a nonsense in this chat?
public static bool is_file_supported(File file) {
    return is_basename_supported(file.get_basename());
}

public static bool is_basename_supported(string basename) {
    string name, ext;
    disassemble_filename(basename, out name, out ext);

    if (is_string_empty(ext))
        return false;

    foreach (PhotoFileFormat format in get_supported()) {
        if (format.get_driver().get_properties().is_recognized_extension(ext))
            return true;
    }

    return false;
}
@kos I didnt know there is file system of type unformatted before, I thought is as not formatted with any file system
@kos do you know about this boot-repair error: grub-pc purge cancelled. ?
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17:54
@edwardtorvalds "unformatted" is not a filesystem AFAIK, it's just plainly what it seems: no filesystem
Nope.
@kos after I create a new partition and dont format it, then what is that?
@HeatherBrown And now when I run any application with torify, that automagically takes care of everything and redirects all internet traffic through TOR? Or on what do I have to pay attention?
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@edwardtorvalds What is usually referred to as "free space"
@kos I thought unformatted and free space are same
@ByteCommander and you need sudo apt-get install torsocks
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17:58
@edwardtorvalds Free space is space that is not inside any partition boundary, but you can have a partition boundary without a filesystem
@edwardtorvalds usually you have to choose a file system or swap when creating the partiton
@edwardtorvalds I think you are thinking Unformatted vs Unallocated space.
Is it possible to get an exception so I can invited Chattty Kathy into a chat? askubuntu.com/questions/700454/…
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17:59
@edwardtorvalds ^^ What terrance said, I said "free space" but I meant "unallocated space"
@kos yes - it means the same
to me too
@chili555 Sure, Create a chat room for it and give me the link. I'll give her access.
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@cl-netbox Usually "free space" is used to refer to the available space in a filesystem, isn't it?
@kos yes exactly - but some people call it that way when talking about partitioning ...
@kos : the correct way to call it is unallocated space
18:03
Unformatted space refers to partitioned space. Unallocated refers to unpartitoned space.
@chili555 @terdon better yet, I'll move the comments to chat.
I am trying this method? Converting Ubuntu into Legacy mode but getting this error: grub-pc purge cancelled
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@cl-netbox Ah, alright. Well the important is understanding each other :)
18:03
@Terrance Unformatted will show up as a /dev/sdx, unallocated will not
@Seth OK, so you'll deal with it?
@crasic exactly
@terdon moving the comments automates all the other exception processes :)
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Looking at this answer again I don't even now why I even posted it: askubuntu.com/a/700461/380067
@crasic Both will show up. Unformatted will show up as /dev/sdxX. Unpartitioned will only show up as /dev/sdx
18:05
@Seth Are you sure it gives a user with >20 rep access though? I think it doesn't.
@terdon It does. Check the access tab, all automated ;)
@Seth Got it! I am there and waiting for stepan.
@Seth Ah, so it does. Sweet!
@Terrance Yes, that was my intent but I missed the "a", but an unpartitioned portionof /dev/sdx will only bea accesible from that device
@edwardtorvalds that is not a good idea
18:06
@chili555 Looks like he's there :)
@edwardtorvalds When doing what? After running what command? In order to achieve what? Also, why are you doing this in chat instead of in a question? Again?
Thanks @Seth
@edwardtorvalds it is better to decide whether to install in efi mode and create a gpt part table before or to decide to install in legacy mode and create msdos part table
18:19
@HeatherBrown THANK YOU!!!!
torify WOW
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A: Can't install openastro in ubuntu 14.04

A.B.The output of apt-cache policy python-dateutil python-rsvg imagemagick says python-dateutil: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: python-rsvg: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: imagemagick: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: Tha...

SOLVED!!!
\me dancing =)
Found a new one: ◔_◔
@MrRoth Use torify, it works, see here askubuntu.com/questions/695811/…
@A.B.: it may bypass the issue, but this issue should not occur.
18:22
@A.B. remember this one :)
What's happening here?
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Chat challenge: post the score you get here: typing-speed-test.aoeu.eu/?lang=en. I got 255 (263 with one mistake), but I'm pretty tired.
@A.B. curious ... what made the difference ? :)
@kos 312 :/
@cl-netbox Tor
18:25
62 WPM wow.
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@Seth Nice! In percentage that is?
I don't normally type quite that fast.
@cl-netbox I suspect, she have a problem with the provider and/or country restrictions.
@kos closed the tab but I think it was like 84-86%.
@edwardtorvalds hmm that I do not know :P
18:27
@A.B. so the "bypassing" thing ?
my problem is I learned to touch type my own way, and then had to learn the 'correct' way so now I used a combination of correct and my own so it isn't very efficient.
@kos I'm bored at work, best is 100 wpm
@terdon I am sorry, I almost forgot that, so now I am googling (already was)
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@crasic O.o. Were I so slow?
@cl-netbox Yes =)
18:29
@A.B. there is one downside using tor (not sure) but I read somewhere some time ago that people that use tor are getting on a "special attention list" by e.g. NSA - one german man has a lot of problems since he started using tor !
Heh, I type "chicken picken"
@cl-netbox Yes, that's the dark side.
@cl-netbox Should I add something?
to the answers?
@kos I dunno, my typing is fast but I don't have a system, I get 100 WPM and my fingers are all over the place
I stop and backspace and correct on that test lol
@A.B. only use for VERY VERY special cases when there is no other way to solve the problem
@cl-netbox You won't get on a list for using TOR
however, a large portion of the exit nodes are controlled by intelligence agencies
so don't expect anonymity
e.g. its business as usual, don't visit sketchy sites darknet or not, and you won't get flagged
18:33
@A.B. but ... better ... not
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Meh, I brought that up to 285 CPM (57 WPM), that's the best I can do at this time of the day
> 300 CPM (that is 60 WPM)
But that's typic more slowly than I normally do. This particular keyboard is easy to slip up with so I was taking a modicum of care.
My "true" score would be faster but with more mistakes.
quick proof and im off
Everyone in cubes around me are getting upset
@terdon
Should I warn in my answers when I recommend Tor?
:25570574 Nice!
@A.B. Warn of what?
18:37
@terdon The usage of Tor.
@A.B. did you catch it ?
@cl-netbox the link?
yes
@A.B. good
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@terdon Yeah. Today is a bit humid, so my keyboard is wet and my right index finger aches because of a war wound. Still 285 CPM (57 WPM) ;)
@crasic You're insanely fast though.
@A.B. don't recommend - just describe ...
18:39
I tried again paying less attention and got 324 at 65 WPm with 2 mistakes. Nowhere near crassic but I can live with that.
@A.B. What kind of warning would it be? I don't get it.
@terdon A warning. The use of Tor could have consequences in your country. Only use for VERY VERY special cases when there is no other way to solve the problem.
> Thanks soooo much for all yr time!! Really happy with the success in the end!! :D – violeta lisboa 23 secs ago
=)
@A.B. It can? Oh. I'm clearly the wrong person to ask then.
@kos years and years of intense emacs-fu
@StefanoPalazzo Should I add that, if I recommend TOR? "A warning. The use of Tor could have consequences in your country. Only use for VERY VERY special cases when there is no other way to solve the problem."
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@crasic Post the screenshot again, it deserves to be starred IMO.
Do I have some bad cookies or that "Custom USB drive with your logo" ad is everywhere?
18:59
@A.B. no
@StefanoPalazzo :) Thx

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