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Thomas Ward

00:00

it disappears if you have an abnormal increase in the amount of rep you get, there's some kind of rate-limiter to weed out bot upvote rep increases

Icedrake

00:14

Hey guys

quick question

is localepurge okay to use in 11.10?

or is it out of date?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

00:35

1

Q: Writing usb on FreeBSD to access on windows

How can I write "stuff" into USB drive on FreeBSD such that, the "stuff" is accessible in Windows [yes my wife still uses that :( ] and Ubuntu?

Icedrake

Actually, scratch that question.

George Edison

01:06

Finally made the announcement: launchpad.net/stackapplet/+announcement/9211

DoR

0

A: Desktop runs very slick, animations are all fast and flawless. Moving windows around, however, is very laggy. Why?

I don't know why this happens, but the following worked for me: ... I've changed my mousepolling to "10" which has solved this problem. Instructions for anyone who would like to replicate my solution: sudo gedit /etc/modules Append the following: -r usbhid usbhid mousepoll=1...

Icedrake

Back for another question

I was installing the Gnome Tweak Tool to change my icon theme, and it seems to have also installed the entire Gnome Shell with it

Will the Gnome Shell automatically update to the latest version now that it's installed?

Roland Taylor

01:24

Wow... the long trek to the next 10k begins gain :)

wisemonkey

my assumption is anything that is related to software center will be automatically updated

so if u installed gnome tweak tools from some ppa and that ppa updates gnome shell then yea it will be updated

Icedrake

I just installed it from the Software Center

Roland Taylor

@Icedrake yes.

Icedrake

Awesome

One more question

Does the Faenza icon theme work with Gnome Shell, now that it was automatically installed?

wisemonkey

yup I used it

Icedrake

01:30

I'm starting to like Gnome shell quite a bit

one more question

why is my battery icon in the top bar so tiny?

it looks extremely disproportionate compared to the rest of the icons in the bar

wisemonkey

well that one I'm sure I can't answer :P

Thomas Ward

@Icedrake its because your system wants to annoy you

:P

Icedrake

@ThomasWard runs away screaming, brings two baseball bats, starts smashing computer with two bats in both hands

3

wisemonkey

anyways try icon set clarity if u like simple themes and everything kinda matching to environment

lol yea that resolves everything ALWAYS :D

Thomas Ward

@Icedrake there's a simpler solution....

Icedrake

01:32

I don't know about you guys, but Gnome Shell seems to be extremely snappy for me

faster than Unity which was so painfully laggy in the dash

Thomas Ward

pulls out Desert Eagle .50 and shoots @Icedrake's computer 7 times

Icedrake

LoL!

Roland Taylor

@Icedrake it's a bug.

@ThomasWard Urban terror guns are not allowed here.

Icedrake

@RolandTaylor So I'm not the only one with the problem right?

Roland Taylor

pulls out the xael and blasts away randomly

Thomas Ward

01:34

@RolandTaylor orly?

Roland Taylor

@Icedrake no, you're not.

wisemonkey

cs?

Thomas Ward

calls in missile strikes

Icedrake

@RolandTaylor Phew.

One more question

Does Faenza have an icon for FileZilla?

Roland Taylor

itches an intergalactic agency's leg

@Icedrake I believe not

but it probably (probably~!) does

Thomas Ward

01:35

pokes the commander of his intergalactic armada which is 500000000 ships strong

Icedrake

@RolandTaylor O.O

Roland Taylor

calls in Marco Ceppi. game over

Thomas Ward

@RolandTaylor you know you lost too right?

:P

Icedrake

Calls in Chuck Norris. /game

Roland Taylor

yeah, but at least I got the last move in :D

Thomas Ward

01:36

calls in Oli. /game

Icedrake

NOOOO!!!

Roland Taylor

recursively loops himself... point?

do this while 1==1

Thomas Ward

do echo /dev/urandom while 1==1

Roland Taylor

do anything while 1==1 is so evil :D

Thomas Ward

i know, right?

although there was this one time i saw someone using:

Roland Taylor

01:37

I used it at college to show people how you can make a CPU overheat :)

ofc, since it was my CPU, I stopped at a point :)

Thomas Ward

do
   < ... >
while *null* == *null*

Roland Taylor

LOL

Thomas Ward

and i was all.

"WTH DUDE>?!?!?!???!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!"

Roland Taylor

haha

wisemonkey

lol one of my friend actually changed professors testbench from if(push == 1) to if (0 == 1)

Roland Taylor

01:39

that is evil :D

lolol

wisemonkey

to check

Thomas Ward

lol

wisemonkey

and submitted assignment cause he got happy its working :P

Roland Taylor

if(1/0 == true)...

wisemonkey

well thats not allowed in hardware (verilog) so will give an error

Icedrake

01:40

OMG

Chromium has the filetype icons!

FINALLY!

Roland Taylor

:O

Icedrake

FINALLY AFTER SO MANY WEEKS!

Roland Taylor

lies?

Icedrake

I just looked

Thomas Ward

@RolandTaylor while (1==1): echo (1==0); loop

Icedrake

01:40

and they are all there

Roland Taylor

:P

@ThomasWard lol

Icedrake

That just made my night

Roland Taylor

okay guys - urban terror time!

if you haven't added me on G+ btw...

Thomas Ward

@RolandTaylor and also... i had a client complain that his computer screen kept filling with ascii art of d***s...

Roland Taylor

plus.google.com/108901876667002638432

Thomas Ward

01:41

i found a script in their boot stuff...

that said "while (1==1) echo <art>"

Roland Taylor

a hacker put it there?

LOL

Thomas Ward

no a disgruntled employee

Roland Taylor

ahahaha

okay I'm out :D!

Urban terror calleth!

(and I'm taking a break from writing/helping/working)

jrg

@Icedrake just install ubuntu tweak. :P

Thomas Ward

@jrg YOU install ubuntu tweak :P

jrg

01:47

I did. :D

Thomas Ward

/me is bored, so he loads up memebase

WarriorIng64

@ThomasWard That's always a good site to go to. :)

Thomas Ward

RAGE COMICS!!!!!!!!!

:P

Icedrake

@jrg You can change icons with Ubuntu Tweak? :O

jrg

on 11.10 yeah

(iirc)

Icedrake

01:52

and then will it work again when you're changing back to the default?

I've read of some people having issues where the icon theme wouldn't switch back to the default properly

don't want to be left with messed up icons

anyways

now that we know that works

how do I completely uninstall Gnome Shell?

jrg

@Icedrake you can't remove gnome shell and have gnome-tweak-tool installed

g-t-t has g-s as a dependency

Icedrake

and remove the gnome tweak tool with it

since I don't need that anymore

jrg

ah, ok

Icedrake

now that you said you can use Ubuntu Tweak to change the icons

jrg

thought you wanted to keep g-t-t around

well, i'm not 100% sure on that

Icedrake

01:54

nah

the only reason I installed it was to change the icons

Oh lol

jrg

(not on my oneiric install right now)

WarriorIng64

@Icedrake I can't find a possible dupe on the main site...try asking there?

Icedrake

Either way, I'd like to completely uninstall Gnome Shell

How do I do that?

jrg

sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell

George Edison

I just marked about 7 bugs as "fix released".

Now the bug list is more manageable.

jrg

01:55

check before you hit Y at the command prompt,

Icedrake

for what?

jrg

otherwise you might just remove something you want to keep.

Icedrake

Oh great

So removing gnome shell will screw over my computer? :S

jrg

@Icedrake just wait a minute, i can reboot and check for you. :)

i could be wrong about UT.

Icedrake

Awesome, thank you.

I really have no idea what goes with Gnome-Shell, so I really wouldn't know what to look for in the Terminal

WarriorIng64

01:56

You can run sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell --assume-no for a preview of what it will want to remove.

It won't actually remove anything, it'll just tell you what it will get rid of if you run it "for real".

Icedrake

did that

it says it will remove Gnome shell and gnome tweak tool

and only free up around 5 mbs o.O

WarriorIng64

There's no harm in just keeping it, is there?

Icedrake

which is weird since when I was installing GTT, it said that it would take up around 80 mbs of disk space

True, true.

WarriorIng64

@Icedrake Weird.

Icedrake

But it looks extremely ugly right now.

WarriorIng64

01:59

How does it look? Do you have a screenshot?

I could offer some tips, maybe

Icedrake

Sure

Hold on a sec

Thomas Ward

/me spends too much time on memebase ;P

Icedrake

Thomas Ward

image not found...

i lol

Icedrake

@ThomasWard It's because I'm so amazing that the computer can't take an image of me. o.O

WarriorIng64

02:01

Yeah...Ambiance isn't exactly 100% compatible with GNOME Shell right now

Thomas Ward

@Icedrake tell me that when your computer is on fire due to thermite

>:)

Icedrake

@WarriorIng64 Is there a theme that is compatible?

WarriorIng64

Have you tried the Adwaita theme?

Icedrake

No, what is that?

WarriorIng64

It's the "official" GNOME 3 theme

Icedrake

02:02

o.O

where do I find it?

WarriorIng64

Should be in the Software Center...

Thomas Ward

blinks

blinks again

Icedrake

Oh wait

Thomas Ward

GNOME 3?!?!?

Icedrake

Found it

Be right back

Thomas Ward

02:02

/me engages war upon @WarriorIng64

HOLY GOD... @GeorgeEdison why do you have to be so proactive on the bugs o.O

/me just got spammed by LP

WarriorIng64

@ThomasWard But why??? D:

Thomas Ward

@WarriorIng64 because your name has "War" in it

WarriorIng64

Don't tell me that doesn't look awesome

@ThomasWard I knew I should have picked "PeaceIng64"

jrg

@Icedrake you can safely remove them.

WarriorIng64

He may not want to now that I told him about Adwaita ;)

jrg

02:05

oh?

Icedrake

Oh holy jesus

This thing looks abominable

Especially on Chromium

WarriorIng64

shrugs Guess it's not for everybody...

Icedrake

Well it's good

WarriorIng64

There's a theme for Chrome...and Firefox and Thunderbird too, to match

Icedrake

just not on Chromium

on really?

Please give me the link to it :S

WarriorIng64

02:06

Lemme see if I can pull it up...

Icedrake

My eyes want to throw up at this Chromium right now

WarriorIng64

I believe this is what you want...

Icedrake

Found it

Oh man

That looks 500% better for sure.

jrg

nicer?

Icedrake

My eyes feel much better.

WarriorIng64

02:08

Glad to hear. :)

Icedrake

And since Gnome-Shell is faster on my computer than Unity, I think I'll stick to using this

WarriorIng64

I agree that GNOME Shell feels lighter

Icedrake

Unity worked fast in 11.04, don't know what happened with 11.10. Everything is so sluggish on it now.

WarriorIng64

I use GNOME Shell on my desktop and Unity on my laptop...the latter's mainly just for the extra vertical screenspace

jrg

@Icedrake yeah, same here

i use 10.04 if i possibly can now. :P

Icedrake

02:09

Some more good news is that Chromium only works correctly in Gnome Shell

it displays the file type icons and the Downloads page doesn't look like a mess in Gnome Shell

WarriorIng64

...huh, just looked and it seems you can only switch between themes without having to re-download in Firefox

I guess Chrome/Chromium only keeps one installed at a time

Icedrake

Another question

Can I use the Faenza icon theme with this new Adwaita theme?

WarriorIng64

Should be able to, if you go into GNOME Tweak Tool and have Faenza installed

I believe you only need the icon folder in ~./icons (unless someone can correct me)

Icedrake

Another question

Is it possible to shut down my computer from the menu that appears when I click my name?

WarriorIng64

Yes

Icedrake

02:14

It's somewhat of a hassle to wait for the computer to log off before being able to shut down

WarriorIng64

Hold down Alt with the menu open, and watch the magic :)

Icedrake

:O

WarriorIng64

I really don't get that design decision, myself. One stupid decision GNOME made in a sea of brilliance, IMO

There may be an extension that adds that back to the menu, but personally I don't mind since I leave this thing running all the time

Icedrake

And now

to try and re-install Software Center

Using Gnome Shell on Ubuntu actually feels more natural than using Unity

Everything seems to work better for some reason

WarriorIng64

For me, it's the hot corner in the upper left. Especially works great on a touchpad

To me, the less precision a user needs to work their interface, the better

Nothing more satisfying than swinging your pointer around like a madman and have the Activities view come up every time, just like you wanted. :)

Icedrake

02:23

Haha!

More great news.

My annoying Aurora PPA being stuck in Software Center is now gone!

and Software Center works perfectly again

all it required was a reinstallation

WarriorIng64

Good to hear!

Icedrake

I think switching to Gnome Shell was a great decision

3 good things have come out of it today lol

Whoa

WarriorIng64

@Icedrake I would agree, but since I'm using it I don't know how biased I would be

Icedrake

;)

Now to try out the Faenza icon theme

WarriorIng64

I've been compiling the Shell from git using jhbuild ever since 10.04, and nothing made me happier about 11.10 than being able to install it without having to wait an hour or two first

Actually, all the time needed for compilation makes me wonder who could have the patience for a distro like Gentoo... :P

DoR

02:30

Is it just me, or is the search in gnome-shell way too slow?

WarriorIng64

@DoR I think it's faster than Unity's search, except now and then when it does get pretty slow for no good reason

Portablejim

@WarriorIng64 Nighttime is a good block of time in which compilation can happen.

WarriorIng64

@Portablejim Unless, of course, you're in a dorm with occasional power outage problems, or at your parents' house and they complain about the electricity :P

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Icedrake

Awesome!

Faenza works perfectly.

I am loving Gnome-Shell!

Makes me think why I never switched sooner.

Portablejim

02:34

@WarriorIng64 not having that time would definitely make installing gentoo annoying.

Icedrake

Another question

WarriorIng64

You have a lot of questions, lol

But that's good, I hope you're learning useful things :)

Icedrake

Is it possible to get notifications in the Gnome Notification way, where it shows up at the bottom, for say, Banshee?

I most definitely am, all from you, lol. :D

WarriorIng64

I dunno about Banshee...I personally got fed up with it crashing constantly on me in 11.10 and switched to Rhythmbox

Plus, Rhythmbox as I noticed seems to have much better Shell integration

Icedrake

I'm planning to uninstall Banshee right now

How about Clementine?

WarriorIng64

02:38

I know Clementine has some fans, but I personally never tried it

Icedrake

That was my thinking, but if Rythmbox integrates well, then I might as well switch to that

WarriorIng64

I'm not much of a music guy...I just have a couple random songs offered as free (legal) downloads online, and some radio stations I liked from Rhythmbox

Icedrake

I'm pretty much an audiophile.

My entire collection is in FLAC

WarriorIng64

Then I guess I'm completely the wrong guy to ask :D

Icedrake

Stuff sounds terrible to me when I listen to anything non-FLAC lol

but this isn't about audio lol, it's about the player, which you know about :P

WarriorIng64

02:41

True

I just think Rhythmbox works out better for me...better Shell integration, I'm familiar with it, and I can listen to something for more than 10 or so minutes at a time without having to restart it

Icedrake

Installed Rythmbox

now to try it out

Wow

You are right

Everything in Rythmbox fits in with the Adaita theme

WarriorIng64

btw, that Banshee bug on Launchpad...apparently there's a fix available in oneiric-proposed, but I'm too lazy to try it out

Icedrake

so it looks like Rhythmbox is a part of Gnome-Shell

WarriorIng64

Someone who's affected should, though

@Icedrake I think Rhythmbox is actually a GNOME application. So, it should work well.

Icedrake

and now there's a problem

I'm getting import errors

saying they timed out

WarriorIng64

02:49

Hmm...unfortunately, wouldn't know anything about that

If nobody else knows, you could try asking a question or rummaging through Launchpad

Icedrake

Well they work when I import them separately

weird

WarriorIng64

Might just be too much for it to handle at once

I try not to overwork my stuff unless I am in a bad mood, lol

...or bored. Either/or.

Icedrake

Well, I have to get some sleep.

Going to experiment with Gnome-Shell some more later.

See you later, and thanks for the great help! :D

WarriorIng64

No problem. Have fun with the Shell. :)

Thomas Ward

03:31

only 19 hours and 30 minutes (+/- 1 hour) until the meeting that decides my fate about being an member

/me is more nervous than he was a few hours ago

Roland Taylor

0

Q: Like in windows in " My Computer" can i access my files in Ubuntu?

how could i see my files in Ubuntu? in windows i see my files in different partition, so in Ubuntu can i see files like windows ?

windows files

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thomas Ward

wtf?

Roland Taylor

Nope. In Ubuntu, files "My Computer" ext4 system and boot. You cannot files.

Thomas Ward

@RolandTaylor trollish answers are trollish :P

Roland Taylor

I honestly am considering writing about using Nautilus... but I can't tell if the person means that they can't access their files from Ubuntu, or they can't access their Windows partition, or "My Computer", see files.

Thomas Ward

03:43

so write for both

as separate answers

Roland Taylor

hmm

Thomas Ward

just...

don't plan on me not flagging one or both as failures

Roland Taylor

:)

I haven't added screenshots - but will do

Thomas Ward

because in all likelihood i will mark one for moderator attention ;P

Roland Taylor

lol

Roland Taylor

03:57

0

Q: I creates office files in "MS word, Powerpoint, Access" if i see my Office files in Ubuntu?

i creates many office files in MS word ? if i install Ubuntu can i see my MS word files?

windows word-documents

troll?

or just new?

Thomas Ward

i call trolling

but i'm evilish so...

Roland Taylor

:)

brb

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05:39

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Stefano Palazzo

@RolandTaylor "...into a room he literal takes command..."

just read part one. it's fantabulastic \o/

Stefano Palazzo

06:03

@roland here's another one from part 3: "like standing on a cliff, then doing it the waters around that surround them is like"

jokerdino

Hmm Hi. I am using my Internet and WiFi. Happy?

And it is way faster than the neighbour's!

Stefano Palazzo

that's great then :)

jokerdino

Yep. :)

wisemonkey

hey guys is there a way to show full names of apps in gnome shell?

sometimes cause quite annoyance

for e.g. :

here I wanted to start covergloobus but typing cover leads me to this and its difficult to judge :-/

Stefano Palazzo

That would make a good question for the site

and an even better bug report, in my opinion :) it's really annoying sometimes...

jokerdino

06:18

We already have this question

Portablejim

@StefanoPalazzo Yes it would

3

Q: How do you get gnome-shell to show the full name?

I've been using gnome-shell and I really like it. I was wondering though if it's possible to somehow get gnome-shell to display the full name of an application in the activities->applications browser if the name is too long. For an example of what I mean: I have two icons for Battle for Wesn...

gnome-shell

wisemonkey

ohh well then I'll see if there are answers

awesome thanls :)

thanks* as well :P

Stefano Palazzo

great!

jokerdino

We have a whole load of useful questions and info in our site.

And your turn to help me with this. How do I connect to freenode.net using XChat

Stefano Palazzo

xchat should connect to freenode by default. uhm. no?

jokerdino

06:22

Looking up irc.freenode.net
* Connecting to chat.freenode.net (174.143.119.91) port 0...

For ever.

wisemonkey

I used to use xchat ohh is that correct port?

Stefano Palazzo

I only have xchat-gnome, so go find the server list wherever that is, probably "file → connect to server"

and then select "Ubuntu Servers" or something similar

jokerdino

Ok. I changed it to irc.freenode.net/8001

It seems to be working.

wisemonkey

:)

jokerdino

Thanks

Stefano Palazzo

06:23

some of the people around here really like this:

irccloud.com

wisemonkey

welcome

Stefano Palazzo

looks like you need an invite though

Man I wish you could all read the excerpts from Roland's novel. It's such a lot of fun.

wisemonkey

lol I'm trying to find clients instead of web services

Stefano Palazzo

@wisemonkey i think xchat will be the best one you'll find. it's pretty great, though I prefer the "xchat-gnome" flavour of it

jokerdino

Roland's novel?

Stefano Palazzo

06:27

> What fascinates them even more, is the presence of human engineered organisms among the natural flora and fauna

need I say more? :-)

wisemonkey

@StefanoPalazzo: yup I use xchat only but I was saying for other services as well like pandora, twitter, identi.ca etc,

haha

jokerdino

Twitter - Polly

Identi.ca - Hotot

Pandora who?

wisemonkey

thanks got polly today trying pithos for pandora will check hotot

I wish there was more traffic on identi.ca

George Edison

@ThomasWard: Spammed?

Oh, that was just me setting all of the "fix committed" bugs to "fix released".

Standard procedure.

jokerdino

@wisemonkey Hotot also supports Twitter

But, it doesn't look native, It is a GTK 2 client

wisemonkey

06:34

ahh

k I'll see how does it work for me thanks :)

jokerdino

I am playing trivia on one of the servers

Aizan Fahri

hey guys... lets talk~

George Edison

07:17

Night all.

jokerdino

Bye

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