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9:00 PM
K.
 
@Explorer LOL
that's a good one
 
I'll be back in 30 minutes or so...
 
I've got a headache .. pasting the commands is more difficult than other ways
anyway, there's no "bin" in "sony-acpid"
and that's the error
 
it shouldn't be afaik
 
I'll follow your answer again, tomorrow @GeorgeEdison
thanks
@jokerdino idk :-\
 
9:05 PM
/usr/bin/ holds all the binary files.
and who develops the stack app indicator? it keeps crashing after logging in :/
and i cant find the launchpad page
 
jrg
@jokerdino that'd be george, and the launchpad page is here - launchpad.net/stackapplet
 
@jokerdino @GeorgeEdison does: launchpad.net/stackapplet
 
i'm going to file bugs
 
@jokerdino That was recently fixed.
What PPA are you getting it from?
 
Isn't the two minute poll of the audataserver a problem for the API server?
 
9:08 PM
@OctavianDamiean Nope.
 
They limit you to 30 req. / second or 10k requests a day - whichever comes first.
 
hmm @GeorgeEdison i got it from the askubuntu ppa
 
86400 seconds in a day / 2 minute intervals = 720 requests per day.
 
9:09 PM
the one which also holds the lens
 
@jokerdino Can you give me the exact link for the PPA?
Is it the Ask Ubuntu Tools PPA?
 
yeah that one
 
Okay - try quitting the application and opening a terminal and running:
python /usr/share/stackapplet/stackapplet.py
 
i would help but i am not on ubuntu
 
...and then watching for errors.
 
9:10 PM
actually i am not on my comp :S
 
I'm off, thanks again and good night
 
i shall look for errors when i get back!
gd night @Explorer
@GeorgeEdison can i have your twitter / g+ profile, so i can nag you there? :)
 
@jokerdino You should try updating to the latest version first just in case.
@jokerdino You can have my email - you can count on one hand the number of times I check my Twitter account :P
> admin@quickmediasolutions.com
 
i dunno, i'm not getting warm with rhythmbox...
 
jrg
heh, the time george did check his Twitter account he saw my dropbox tweet from two weeks before. :P
 
9:16 PM
i just hope that decision is not going to be a major setback for banshee :-(
 
david neilsen already gave up on more contributions :(
it is quite significant
@GeorgeEdison i shall report the problem later :)
 
I'm on G+ though - I check that every day.
 
give that darn link!
 
great. added.
 
9:19 PM
Alright. Upgrading to Oneiric now.
 
now time to nag @MarcoCeppi so he fixes the chromify-osd too!!!!
you ppl are awesome btw, if i hadnt already told you all
 
@jokerdino What's wrong with Chromify-OSD?
(P.S. - I wrote part of Chromify-OSD so I might be qualified to help too.)
 
@GeorgeEdison btw thank you for the howto on manpage creation. Very well written.
 
You're welcome.
@lazyPower Did you see the second one I wrote?
 
9:25 PM
i saw the post you directed me to via the ping earlier this week
was there a revised copy?
 
No, but I wrote one about makefiles too.
 
now that i would really like to read. Automake/cmake has been a pain in my side for quite a while.
 
ok i got to get some sleep i think
it is almost 6 in the morning :D
 
@jokerdino Those are default desktop notifications of Chromium. I think.
 
g'night @jokerdino
 
9:27 PM
gd night? :P
 
good night all!
 
@OctavianDamiean i dont know how chromify osd works or supposed to work.
i expect it to be notify osd like
and with that i shall take the leave. claps
 
I so hope I have selected the correct partitions for formatting.
 
:D :D :D
 
@OctavianDamiean I didn't once...
 
9:29 PM
famous last words?
 
One erased hard drive later...
 
Alright. I'll soon find out.
I love Ubiquity.
Chatting while installing the OS. :D
With OneConf it'll become even more comfortable in the future.
 
oh look, @jrg got 5k! congrats! 5k more to go!
4
 
jrg
heh. :D
Thanks @htorque.
this sucks, nobody has submitted an edit yet. :P
 
935 rep. to go for 10k on Stack Overflow. :)
 
9:38 PM
@jrg once my pizzahut gets here i'll find a question to edit for you
 
wrong page :P
 
either that or i'll make a farse edit that you can banhammer if it appeases you
 
@OctavianDamiean You're closer than I.
 
Well I'll have 10k by the next UDS on AU. :P
 
jorge too, given how fast he spends his rep on bounties :D
 
9:41 PM
@GeorgeEdison The fun part is that I have not answered a question since 10th October but I constantly gather reputation. :D
 
@MarcoCeppi: Question... should symlinking be done in the <package>.postinst file (in the Debian packaging)?
@OctavianDamiean I probably haven't answered one in a long time either.
Minus the one I answered yesterday, I haven't answered anything on SO since October 11.
 
WOW! 288 questions! That is impressive.
I have 5.
 
It's not impressive - it means I didn't know the answer to that many things.
 
Well but you have contributed to Stack Overflow with that.
 
True.
 
9:44 PM
One of my questions has a pretty funny sounding title. :D
11
Q: How can I find out if a device has a vibrator?

Octavian DamieanI have a device of which I don't know if it has a vibrator. Is there a way to query for the availability of the vibrator?

 
hahaha
awesome
 
+1'd
 
The first comment to that question made me lol hard in the office. :D
Oh no! Restart time. Now we'll see if it that were the right partitions. :/
 
@JorgeCastro: Where (in the Debian packaging) is the right place to set up a symlink?
 
@GeorgeEdison Yes
 
9:53 PM
no clue
we need ajmitch around
too bad he's on the opposite side of the world, heh
 
You want to do it after you confirm everything has installed correctly
So postint is probably the best place
 
is back
I didn't screw up! high-fives
 
@MarcoCeppi And then <package>.prerm to remove it?
 
or just during the remove
it's not really important when
Since it's not dependent on anything
misses rpm.spec files
 
RPM?! shudders
 
9:59 PM
alien package.rpm
:P
yay, i guess i answered a bounty question. :)
plenty to choose from
 
jrg
@lazyPower Awesome. :D
 
@GeorgeEdison now that's the way to go to burn time :D
 
@htorque It's fun!
 
@JorgeCastro what am I needed for?
 
10:14 PM
Packaging questions.
 
16/210 \o/
 
k
 
First of all, to get something submitted to the Software Center, it need to put binaries into /opt.
...what about commands that need to go into /usr/bin?
We assume the answer is to symlink them.
 
Why do you need to put things into /usr/bin ?
 
@htorque 27 :)
 
10:16 PM
ha, i got the sword
now where is the dragon?
 
@ajmitch it's a lens
 
@MarcoCeppi A lens shouldn't need to have executables that are run directly
 
Oh, okay
 
No no... not the lens.
The data server needs to go into /usr/bin.
 
I was assuming he was packaging audataserver
 
10:18 PM
...or at least be symlinked there.
 
I thought the data servers go on the server?
 
@MarcoCeppi The data server runs locally too.
 
Which in itself is dubious whether it would go into extras.ubuntu.com
 
Why? Won't that take a lot of disk space
 
Okay, maybe I should clarify:
There are 4 packages + the lens.
 
10:18 PM
0
Q: Making a Meta-Package for a PPA

The Evil OneI'm aware of how to make meta-packages for things, like is outlined here: How to create a meta-package that automatically installs other packages? But how would I make a meta-package that would be placed inside a PPA on Launchpad? Is that even possible?

anyone got any ideas?
 
The lens can easily go into /opt and symlink the stuff where necessary.
 
@TheEvilOne it's no different for a PPA than for anything else
 
The other 4 packages are:
 
24, going to be a long night :D
 
10:19 PM
- audataserver which contains the server and shared library that manage the data.
 
@ajmitch then post the answer there - because my attempts at making a metapackage with debuild doesnt work
 
- python-audataserver the Python front-end to the server
 
aquarium unlocked :D
 
- askubuntu-data-dump the data dump (this one's in /opt).
@htorque Wha...?
 
Dude, that sounds like a lot of data to be installing on a client machine
 
10:20 PM
- audataserver-proxy the Python data server that runs as a daemon.
 
Why does it need a local server? The original lens didn't use one
 
Got a grenade. :D
 
@TheEvilOne better to put in what you've tried, because I'd just vote to close the question as a dupe
@TheEvilOne just because the answer for it should be the same as the question you linked already
 
@MarcoCeppi It helps speed up search results... and most importantly it works offline :)
 
but the answer isnt to use that system
hence why i posted
 
10:21 PM
I don't know if it's practical though. Disk space is more valuable over latency
esp. since the results aren't that slow
 
0
Q: login window disappears after clicking username in Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot Alpha

Adrian WechnerI installed Ubuntu 11.10 alpha in virtualbox 4.0.4. after install and "partial upgrade" the virtual machine reboots and the login screen comes out. there I get the options for , Guest and others.... clicking on the username the login window disapears and I can't do anything to come back. mouse/ke...

vote to delete please!
 
jrg
what, we're now deleting all pre-release crap? :D
 
@jrg "too localised"
 
@MarcoCeppi They are if you're offline.
And 3MB isn't a lot of space.
 
@ajmitch revised
 
10:23 PM
@TheEvilOne ok, I can see that equivs-build defaults to not building a source package
 
@ajmitch indeed
 
@jrg I just ran across it and was like "this is worthless"
 
jrg
@ajmitch ok, nevermind, silly question. :)
@JorgeCastro ok, gotcha
 
well, it was linked in the sidebar from an existing question
 
@jrg general cleanup?
 
10:23 PM
I'm not sure what needs to be done now...
 
and I was like, "that whole question is worthless"
 
jrg
shrug that works
 
del'd
 
anyone know a method to upgrade a VPS image from 10.10 to 11.04 or something newer, without wiping out the container?
CLI only
 
The usual do-release-upgrade ?
 
10:28 PM
my concern is kernel updates - they wont happen.
as well, iptables stuff :/
should i just talk to the VPS host first and see what they say?
 
VPS images often use a kernel outside of the image anyway
I've not had any problems with just doing upgrades on a VPS, except where there are specific things to care about like xen ttys
 
giving up at 40
 
hey @George...
40
Q: SE Editor Toolkit

Jakub Hampl There's been an onslaught of rather difficult to read questions on SO lately. A lot of them are just plain close-fodder, but many are just from d ppl ,who spk teh internetz lingo and hence make my eyes bleed are pretty much incomprehensible without extensive parsing/editing. They also somehow ...

how do i make this "script" work?
the user script you made
 
@TheEvilOne I didn't make it.
 
regardless
 
10:36 PM
I just wrote a PHP script that converts it from a Safari extension.
 
how do i use the userscript?
oic
 
It doesn't work on Firefox at all that I know of.
It used to work on Chrome, though.
Does it still?
 
ugh
that makes me sad >.>
thinks everything should be written for Ffox
 
it doesn't work in chrome for me either
 
Aw :(
 
10:40 PM
@MarcoCeppi we are now at 75%. :-/
 
10:52 PM
only Stack Apps is worse
 
sorry! :P
 
I added stuff at the bottom of that answer
 
@htorque: Finally got aquarium.
 
:D
 
11:15 PM
#!/bin/bash

set -e

# This "small" installation script makes a number of symlinks
# to the appropriate folders from the program's files in /opt.

ln -S /opt/askubuntu-lens/askubuntu.lens /usr/share/unity/lenses/askubuntu/askubuntu.lens

#DEBHELPER#
@ajmitch: -------^ Like that?
 
I wasn't going to symlink it, but it may work if you used -s rather than -S
 
You weren't?
How on earth is it going to work if we don't symlink it?
Good point with the -S though - I intended -s :)
 
Files that need to be in /usr can generally go into /usr, however there's nothing written down as to what is or isn't allowed
 
11:30 PM
@ajmitch: So the package is fine the way it is?
I'm so confused.
 
Can not login after fresh install, how to debug? http://askubuntu.com/questions/75909/can-not-login-after-fresh-install-how-to-debug #installation
 
@GeorgeEdison this is just one example of why the /opt requirement is frustrating - combine that with the documentation on developer.ubuntu.com disagreeing with the approved ARB process & you've got a whole pile of confusion
 

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