Ask Ubuntu General Room

SmokeDetector

00:25

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Python's ImportError: No module named repository by God on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

@SmokeDetector The OP... O_o

Nathan Osman

00:47

What is it with talking popup ads???

jrg

01:19

@NathanOsman it's a conspiracy to force us to all use adblockers.

Nathan Osman

01:59

63

Q: Objective-C Documentation Generators: HeaderDoc vs. Doxygen vs. AppleDoc

I need to implement a documentation generation solution for my workplace and have narrowed it down to the three mentioned in the title. I have been able to find very little information in the way of formalized comparisons between these solutions, and I'm hoping that those of you with experience i...

^--- that question is epic

Both the Doxygen creator and AppleDoc creator have posted an answer to the question, so there's some real wisdom in there.

Uh-oh. This doesn't sound like something I want in my backyard.

Journeyman Geek

02:18

quick/wierd question (and I'd be happy to ask it on the main site if need be).

I've got a ubuntu install at work that I just upgraded. I have one package that I could have sworn was updated, but its marked as for update again. Its an old box that went from 12.04 (I think) to 14.04. Would ubuntu upgrade packages in stages? I just fixed up a load of held packages, and this wasn't one and I'm confused.

Journeyman Geek

02:30

ah hah!

Nathan Osman

03:15

gitorious.org is slower than a turtle today.

Wow, what a typo:

On Centos 6 and 7, the commands below will also open HTTP and SSH access in the system firewall.

sudo apt-get install openssh-server
sudo apt-get install postfix

I... don't think CentOS uses apt-get...

SmokeDetector

05:22

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care Supplement Reviews Free Trial! by Leone Freud on askubuntu.com

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

06:30

1

Q: kernal compilation in ubuntu, reboot msg "gave up waiting for root device"

I was trying to compile linux kernel from source file i.e. 3.19.3 kernel version I ran the following commands for compilation first i extracted tar -xvf linux-3.19.3.tar.xz sudo make menuconfig Didnt change anything sudo make -j4 sudo make install install-modules after reboot it is giving ...

ubuntu kernel initramfs

ByteCommander

08:31

test

Hm... It lagged for a minute on the SO chat server...

A.B.

08:47

What is the shortcut for "<kbd>" and "</kbd>"

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Getting A Free Pdf To Doc Converter? by kaauand Toku on askubuntu.com

A.B.

09:31

@Fabby ok :)

Fabby

@A.B. :D On the gparted --list???

@A.B. that is the shortcut for <keyboard> </keyboard>...

(there is none) :(

A.B.

@Fabby Your comment: askubuntu.com/questions/605183/…

Fabby

>:) ;-) Good man!

A.B.

:cP

:c)

Fabby

I didn't know you were in the chat room or I would have told you here...

A.B.

09:34

@Fabby I usually open the chat.

Fabby

@fossfreedom: as I didn't get a reply: how can we mere mortals see whether a user is blacklisted and why?

@A.B. What TZ are you in? NZ???

otherwise, I doubt you open the chat! ;-) >:)

fossfreedom

@Fabby what do you mean by "blacklisted" ?

A.B.

Germany/Berlin

Fabby

@fossfreedom Look at second star after 42

A.B.

better: Hamburg

Fabby

09:37

Smoke detector mentioned a blacklisted user,

user136984

@A.B. Which hamburger?

fossfreedom

all I see is panda stuff.

Fabby

I didn't want to bother any of the mods, so I starred, but no onae looked

14 hours ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: I think my PC is being hacked. What should I do? by Douglas Jones on askubuntu.com

ByteCommander

@A.B. Yay! Another Kraut like me! Hi. :)

Fabby

@A.B. Hansestadt Hamburg!

A.B.

09:38

LOL

Hansestadt

ByteCommander

@Fabby --> Hansestadt!

;)

A.B.

Wenn schon denn schon :)

ByteCommander

Still wrong. "dt"

Correct.

:)

fossfreedom

Smoke Detector is "blacklisting" the user - that is nothing to-do with stackexchange. Suggest look at the code on github as to the criteria it is using to output that message.

Fabby

Gimme an effing minute!

:P

ByteCommander

09:39

For the blacklist: You can go to the "Charcoal HQ" room and ask e.g. Undo. He's maintaining our Smokey...

Fabby

@fossfreedom Ah... So I just misunderstood... Thanks for the clarification...

ByteCommander

Btw what methods are there to do a screenshot? The PrintScreen key (with XFCE) doesn't work with an open Nautilus menu, but that's what I need to capture.

@Fabby Room: Charcoal HQ

Fabby

@fossfreedom and could you point me in the right direction of "code on github" as google is of little help...

user136984

@Fabby: By the way, about that thing to do with PING flooding my router, if it would not reject them and instead just crash, is there normally something in its configuration settings which I can change so that it blocks PINGs by default? Or is it just how that router it.

ByteCommander

You also find the github code link there in the room description.

Fabby

09:42

@ByteCommander yeah, that's annoying... I got the same problem under Unity... :(

fossfreedom

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector

Fabby

@Toroidal that depends on your router and if it's not running Ubuntu...

@fossfreedom :* :* :* ;-)

user136984

@Fabby It's just a normal router, not running Ubuntu.

user136984

Would I have to set up something special then for it to block them?

Fabby

Well, then it's off-topic here! :P
RTFM!

(yes, there is something on some routers...)

user136984

09:45

Right Tofu Fingered Monks are back!

user136984

;D :P

Fabby

@Toroidal and stop starring panda stuff!

It's getting James-Kayla-level annoying!

And you know what happened to hem for starring irrelevent tags!

user136984

Ok, sorry! :D

Fabby

remove them again!

:P

(while you still have the time)

@Toroidal unstar!

Unihedro

Cool, I never knew Smokey posts in here also.

!!/blame

!!status

Eh.

user136984

09:47

@Fabby Ok, but I didn't star it all! :D

ByteCommander

@Fabby I got you somebody from the Charcoal HQ!

Fabby

@ByteCommander Huh? Who? What? Where?

ByteCommander

@Unihedro That guy. (@Fabby)

Fabby

WHY?

I need a smoke break pretty soon!

user136984

@Fabby: Oh dear... I'm getting a message to say that it's too late to undo my staring of earlier panda stuff! :D :P

Unihedro

09:49

@Fabby hi

ByteCommander

Because you wanted to know how to find out why users are blacklisted.

Fabby

@Toroidal think about it n the future

user136984

Ok

user136984

:)

Fabby

@Unihedro I'm sorry, I just got confused earlier

Unihedro

09:49

Well, it's stored in a flatfile. The flatfile is on the prod environment which I have no access until the command to check if a users' within is added. :p

Fabby

because I saw chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/21010275#21010275

Unihedro

1 sec

Fabby

and was wondering how we can see a user is blacklisted

Unihedro

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Mar 27 at 5:55, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MY PC HAS BEEN HACKED AND I NEED YOUR HELP! by Douglas Jones on askubuntu.com

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Mar 27 at 5:55, by Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector tpu

There you go.

Fabby

but then a mod stepped in and told me "smokey" blacklisted the user

ByteCommander

09:51

what means "tpu" now again?

Unihedro

@Fabby Smokey is our nickname for SmokeDetector. We sometimes instruct it to remember users and report what they post because it may deem value for reviewing, especially when a known user posts spam.

@ByteCommander true positive, blacklist user.

also: !!/addblu (add blacklisted user)

!!/help

!!/lick

Fabby

!!/help

nah, doesn't do anything... :P

Unihedro

Yeah, it doesn't have listeners for chat.SE rooms outside Charcoal HQ.

Blame ChatExchange. :p

Fabby

I thought you were teaching us some new tricks! :P ;-)

Unihedro

Nah, I'm just visiting as part of my election campaign for my candidacy of running in the SO mod election 2015.

Kidding :P

Fabby

09:53

Oh,

I was already marking you as a favourite!

>:)

Unihedro

^_^

ByteCommander

These command can be executed by everyone.

!!/alive - Replies a random message taken from a list so you can see that SmokeDetector is still running.
!!/status - Shows the UTC date when SmokeDetector started running.
!!/rev - Shows the running Git revision.
!!/help - Shows a small help message about SmokeDetector.
!!/apiquota - Shows the remaining API quota of SmokeDetector.
!!/queuestatus - Shows the queue status of BodyFetcher.
!!/so2015 - Displays information about the 2015 Stack Overflow Election.

Unihedro

You'd have to run them in the Charcoal HQ or the MSE Tavern, though.

Fabby

@Unihedro So none of the commands work in any of the other chat rooms?

Unihedro

@Fabby Well, it doesn't seem to have listeners.

3 mins ago, by Unihedro

Blame ChatExchange. :p

Fabby

09:56

Thanks for the tips!

Now I know which MTFR! ;-)

Unihedro

:D

ByteCommander

MTFR?? Btw it should work in the Tavern too

Fabby

WMTFR = Which Manual To Fücking Read!

(derivative of RTFM)

OK, I'm hungry and smokey, so I'm off!

C U L8R

@Unihedro and thanks again!

A.B.

Bye

Fabby

If you ever need an Ubuntu favour, drop by and remind me of today!

Unihedro

09:59

@ByteCommander It's a scrambled version of RTFM.

Fabby

@A.B. the mouse in the wall: listening and learning!

A.B.

the mouse in the wall? Is that a saying?

Fabby

10:36

@A.B. Not really...

That was just invented my me...

ByteCommander

^ a poet, huh?

A.B.

:)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:26

0

Q: Linux directory with many user groups as owners

On my Ubuntu Linux server 3.13.0-48-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 11:16:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux server I have directory /srv/svn. Is it possible to set this directory to have multiple group ownerships, for instance devFirmA, devFirmB and devFirmC?

ubuntu filesystems

SmokeDetector

12:02

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Copy skype chat history to text files? by diaa attia on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://www.testerectbuy.com/ by zquobao Eijd on askubuntu.com

blade19899

13:07

BQ Ubuntu Phone Now Available For General Purchase ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog

4

Rinzwind

13:20

@blade19899 want it

blade19899

@Rinzwind Me. Two. If I had Money.

A.B.

-1 why? askubuntu.com/a/607605/367165

KasiyA

Hi! How is it possible? I just clicked on "Approve Edit" button for checking user suggested edit to see if he/she posted the correct screenshot and next I pressed the "Save Edits" on this question. Now I see it's approved only by me!? Does the rule changed or it's a something else??

And on this one I get the same! And under "Reviewer Stats" (press "more") I'm not there!!

Mateo

@blade19899 and in us? aw... nope :(

still awesome though.

Rinzwind

@A.B. see the comment? ;-)

the automatic removal has been in Ubuntu for years now and the maintainer of it still does not feel comfortable with it included in the base software. (other linuxes have auto-removal of kernels for a while now)

Mateo

13:34

@KasiyA when you do edit, it gets auto approved/rejected

yeah, Ive seen people delete their current kernel before, or I've used an old kernel because the new one messed something up...

KasiyA

But in previous days/weeks I couldn't use that button!! Because I get the warning that I have to have a little change in body of post but now I can not see that alarm.

Mateo

oh, look one of your answers @Rinzwind

33

Q: Why doesn't Ubuntu remove old kernels automatically?

I wonder why Ubuntu won't remove the old kernels automatically. Surely nothing is perfect and things can go wrong, so in case a update doesn't work, having a backup kernel maybe great. But it would also suffice to just keep the latest kernel and the one before the latest and delete all the old...

kernel

KasiyA

@arc_lupus Who says that autoremove kills the current kernel???? O.o

Rinzwind

@Mateo <3

@KasiyA it can... if you use a previous kernel and that is marked as old you got a problem.

Mateo

yeah, one of my 14.10 laptops, is like 3-4 behind because of a strange screen flashing problem - manually set it to use that kernel

KasiyA

13:44

@Rinzwind No I don't think so!! It's not possible. Then why Ubuntu marks the current kernel as OLD while I'm using it?? She can unmark it as currently using kernel and keep it from some of problems. So is there any way to tell her to ignore the current one from deletion or manually control the old kernels?

Or no, autoremove will remove all of them except the new one?

And is it possible to change the configuration to keep the new and currently using kernel from deletion by that command?

blade19899

We definitely need a (phone)app for the chat rooms here.

ByteCommander

Ubuntu is female?? o.O"

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander no

ByteCommander

I did not really consider it talkative enough to be female...

Mateo

who would think of that before running the command... I think that is why we just say "for advanced users only" and don't do it unless you need to

and know how to get yourself out of the mess it could make.

KasiyA

13:58

Did you have a test before?

terdon

14:13

@ByteCommander Oh please!.

Do try and avoid such ridiculously sexist remarks.

ByteCommander

14:31

@terdon Really that bad? Come on! Did you see @Virusboy's bacon bra session two nights ago?

terdon

@ByteCommander lol, no :)

But yeah, that was a pretty bad comment.

There's enough ugly sexism in the IT world already.

ByteCommander

woman==talkative is too common to be really bad in my opinion...

yesterday, by Virusboy

The Bacon Bra

Luckily Seth did eliminate the photos... ;)

terdon

@ByteCommander Umm, that's exactly why it's so bad.

ByteCommander

Ah, don't be so uptight. Throw a prejudice about males in the room to keep the balance and good is.

terdon

I just really hate that kind of implicit sexism. Especially since the most talkative people I know are men, not women. So it's both sexist and wrong. As such things usually are.

ByteCommander

14:41

but bacon bras are okay???

terdon

OK, I can't believe I'm discussing bacon bras :) but yes, they're different since they don't include an assumption about all women. You're lumping all women into a single, bad category. That's not nice. Bacon bras are just silly (though tasty).

That's how I feel anyway.

A.B.

Is this ok in an answer? "Congratulations: You bought a cheap USB camera!."

fossfreedom

no - not constructive.

A.B.

My Opinion.

I have no more flags: askubuntu.com/questions/95169/…

Davis answer is not an answer

fossfreedom

14:58

thx - dealt with

ByteCommander

in English Language & Usage, Jun 3 '14 at 0:21, by terdon

She went to a one man show all about how the actor's life had been so hard because his last name was Dick. Among other things, he said, no woman would marry me, because nobody would want to be Mrs Dick. At which point he turnd to my sister and asked her if she would consider it and she got to reply that "certainly not, for then I would be called Aliki Dick."

^ Not sexist at all...

fossfreedom

context and room is everything

A.B.

Nice comment: "You're funny. At least I'm trying to help. :)" askubuntu.com/questions/607652/…

fossfreedom

think you were being a little brusk with your comment

A.B.

A little bit.

j0h

15:13

who do i talk to when I want a program wrote for ubuntu? specifical a RAD IDE for python GUIs
Ive seen the reasoning why there isnt one, RAD IDEs are for GUI interfaces, and python is a commandline language, but thats not true, and while program guis in tkinter isnt particularly hard, it is tedious. So I would like there to be such a program, How can i find someone to help me make this happen? I

fossfreedom

programming GUI's in python and GTK isnt hard - glade makes it very straightforward to create GUI's with very little code.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Why are my Python package installations successful while Python cannot import modules? by Galen on askubuntu.com

jokerdino

15:30

@SmokeDetector 3 hours too late

Thomas W.

16:22

anyone want to take a peek at this answer of mine and give opinions?

1

A: SSH connection refused from specific location only

It's likely that what's ending up happening is that the network administrator for their work network is blocking TCP port 22 outbound, and UDP port 22 outbound, to block SSH access. This is done for a security concern of data being 'uploaded' from the internal network to a server that is not con...

terdon

@ByteCommander Huh? Of course not, that was a true story about my sister whose name is Aliki (Αλίκη)

ByteCommander

17:24

I give up. You're a superhuman thing that hovers at minimum 6 spiritual dimensions above people who are still dumb and stone-age-like enough to think minor "sexist" jokes (like woman are talkative or love shoes) can be funny, so please forgive for enraging you, our Highness, and just stay up there in your Greek heaven where unicorns are still farting rainbows and even using words like 'man' or 'woman' makes all other creatures raise eyebrows and point with the naked finger at somebody... :P Meh!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: How to restore default Ethernet connection after using pppoeconf?

I had problem with graphic, when I could use console only. So to resolve issue I used pppoeconf to connect to network. It changed some files and now I can't see Ethernet networks from panel, still using pppoeconf from terminal. How to restore default way to connect ??? Thanks

linux ubuntu

user136984

17:48

Capital Punishment for this one! >:) >:) >:)

user136984

-1

Q: How do I download anything?

I'm borrowing a laptop that has windows and Ubuntu 10.04 on it, but for some reason when I try to start with windows the screen just gets scrambled, so I'm stuck with Ubuntu. So, how do I download anything?! I can download files from emails, but if I go to download a game, it just won't open. I t...

downloads

user136984

He says he hates Ubuntu!

Nathan Osman

o/

Mateo

o/

Thomas W.

18:07

o/

so, anyone taken a look at my answer about SSH connections being refused? xD

Mateo

that is an interesting one

Thomas W.

indeed.

the tricky part: 'the girlfriend' is accessing from the workplace

ByteCommander

o/

Thomas W.

which, as a matter of network security and info security policy, is a "WTF"

and a huge red flag

at least, from a workplace perspective

Nathan Osman

Why... has... Internet slowed down...

Ah, whoopsie was uploading something.

Next question... why does Firefox keep reverting my language preference to Spanish???

Thomas W.

18:19

@NathanOsman noticed that myself in Ubuntu 14.04 - maybe we need to check the bugs open against it?

Mateo

lol, that is worse than uk spellcheck :p

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman it seems to do that only for the start page

a ctrl+f5 fixes

Nathan Osman

No this is different. I've seen that one too.

This one affects the spellchecker in text entry boxes.

ByteCommander

Am I right that /dev/null has no specified size as it's a character device and not a file (for this answer)?

Nathan Osman

It is not seekable, that's for sure :P

Mateo

18:20

@NathanOsman mine always reverts to uk... :(

ByteCommander

Mine (14.10 though) did never behave strangely...

Nathan Osman

@Mateo Maybe it's doing you a "favour"... (see what I did there?)

Mateo

and have to set it to us all the time

favour, colour, organise, no - movies is not a real word?

Nathan Osman

It gets worse... litre, metre... that doesn't even look right!

Seth

@NathanOsman does the same to me.

I just reset it for each text field and then it seems to stick (only for that specific text field though :/)

ByteCommander

18:24

Not to forget elevator, or centre...

Nathan Osman

It's annoying when you're typing something and nearly ever word has the red squiggly line under it.

ByteCommander

or grey/gray

j0h

Can I post a gambas3 question on AU?

Nathan Osman

Yup.

Mateo

maybe they tried to fix it, but messed it up more

Nathan Osman

18:24

The reason I know so many of these is because I'm Canadian. We use British spelling for nearly everything here.

And I hate it.

ByteCommander

@NathanOsman @Mateo Look at this: bigstockphoto.com/blog/…

Nathan Osman

...and don't forget check/cheque.

Mateo

@ByteCommander pants

ByteCommander

@Mateo rubber!

Mateo

we have coach buses too...

ByteCommander

18:27

God save the queen: (UK vs US)

;D

j0h

lol

ByteCommander

16 mins ago, by ByteCommander

Am I right that /dev/null has no specified size as it's a character device and not a file (for this answer)?

^ So what's about that now? Am I right?

Fabby

19:25

What else should I add to this answer? askubuntu.com/a/607751/344926

@ByteCommander Yes you're right!

(upvoted)

ByteCommander

@Fabby Thanks. Looking at yours...

Fabby

Just trying to think of everything before I send a guy to trek up a mountain! >:)

ByteCommander

The server is not reachable since it is mounted in very high altitude (for estimating weather pollution ) so I can only reset it. — Parsa Apr 5 at 15:40

Does not really read like a mountain to me...

Fabby

@ByteCommander Nobody below 50 in the UK uses "rubber" any more...

ByteCommander

Why would one be able to plug out a server located on a mountain without going up there?

Fabby

19:30

Meh... Good enough to make a joke about Mount Everest!

he reset the power...

that can normally be done remotely...

Anyway, that's not the point...

:P

ByteCommander

Do they have a few km of wire from the mountain top to the valley and have it plugged in there? Or what?

Fabby

Is there something else he should take with him?

nah, it's an electronic switch (probably facilities run by Iridium phone already)

Anyway...

Is there anything else he should be packing?

(what obvious thing did I forget?)

ByteCommander

> if the excrement hits the fan

Fabby

(and I've had this as well in a remote facility, and I had to pack a router in my back-pack)

ByteCommander

Really?

Fabby

19:33

I'll change that...

ByteCommander

Funny, leave it ;)

Fabby

to "if everything goes tits up"

:D

ByteCommander

=D

Fabby

Do you know that one?

Belly up = tits up

ByteCommander

(ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖ Now yes! :D :D

Fabby

19:34

>:)

ByteCommander

Still grinning

Fabby

OK, so I'll leave it as is...

@ByteCommander BTW: I remember a (female, American) boss asking "Is it OK to wear pants to the UK office?" on a conference call...

Total silence for 5 seconds...

then HR Europe said: "That's completely up to you!"

user136984

I am installing some driver updates using this software: 01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015/…

Fabby

(grins in the background)

user136984

But I have started getting lots of warnings such as:

user136984

19:38

OSSEC HIDS Notification.
2015 Apr 10 20:19:43

Received From: Bath-Towel->/var/log/syslog
Rule: 1003 fired (level 13) -> "Non standard syslog message (size too large)."
Portion of the log(s):

Apr 10 20:19:41 Bath-Towel AptDaemon: INFO: CommitPackages() was called: dbus.Array([dbus.String('i915-3.18-3.16-dkms'), dbus.String('libgles1-mesa'), dbus.String('libosmesa6'), dbus.String('libxatracker2'), dbus.String('libva-drm1'), dbus.String('libva-egl1'), dbus.String('libva-glx1'), dbus.String('libva-tpi1'), dbus.String('libva-wayland1'), dbus.String('libva-x11-1'), dbus.String('va-driver-all'),…

ByteCommander

@Fabby :] me too...

user136984

Should I worry about these?

Fabby

@Toroidal Don't!!!

ByteCommander

Still searching for that one picasso.gif on the web...

Fabby

There are no drivers in Ubuntu!

Just modules!

user136984

19:39

Oh, so what am I installing then?

terdon

@ByteCommander You are basically right but, strictly speaking, it is a file since everything is a file.

Mateo

@Toroidal if you have unity don't use them

user136984

Ok, so how do I uninstall them now?

Fabby

(they server the same purpose as drivers, but because some company in Redmond, WA calls them "drivers", a lot of people call them that, but they're not!)

terdon

You can actually perform file operations on /dev/null. Copying, overwriting etc.

ByteCommander

19:39

@terdon That's why I said it's not really a file...

Mateo

@Toroidal did your dash slow down?

terdon

@ByteCommander Yes, and as you said, "in simple words".

Fabby

@Toroidal Restore the full system back-up you took just before doing something dangerous like this!

user136984

@Fabby Hmm... It's not like me to take backups!

user136984

:(

Mateo

19:40

wait, there was a question/answer just for this

terdon

I would just say that it is a file but not a regular file.

user136984

Probably should in the future though...

Mateo

8

A: How to safely remove proprietary Intel driver

On some computers the new versions that are installed with the intel-linux-graphics-installer have those exact same issues, I had it happen with two netbooks so it dosn't seem to be a conflict between nouveau/intel but a problem with the newer graphics installed from Intel. First you need to re...

ByteCommander

@Toroidal What the hell is "Bath-Towel"?

Fabby

@Toroidal Re-install your system then and START MAKING BACK-UPS

user136984

19:41

@ByteCommander The name of my computer... :D

user136984

:P

terdon

@Toroidal Do you happen to be a fan of Hitchhiker's by any chance?

user136984

Yep! :D

terdon

:)

Fabby

@Toroidal Mine is called fab-ux, the admin user: fab-root and the normal user fab-user

It's all ab-fab!

:D

user136984

19:43

Anyway, why do I need to remove these drivers or whatever they are?

Fabby

Modules..

Leave them in for now...

terdon

@Fabby Come on! The user should have been ulous so your prompt could be fab@ulous!

user136984

@Fabby Ok, but what is the worst they could do?

terdon

Um, meant that the machine should be ulous and you fab

Fabby

@terdon the host ulous and the user fab...

@Toroidal crash and burn your system?

Mateo

19:44

@Toroidal oh, thought that you said that they were causing problems??

user136984

Nope, no problems.

Mateo

6 mins ago, by Toroidal

But I have started getting lots of warnings such as:

user136984

But then they are still installing... And I'm not too sure if I should stop them...

user136984

@Mateo Oh, that is from my security program.

Mateo

oh, wait for it to complete then

user136984

19:45

Ok, and then what should I do?

Mateo

then make sure your dash still works properly

user136984

I really don't want to reinstall my entire system.

Mateo

you don't need to...

user136984

Well, not at the moment anyway...

Fabby

@Toroidal then hope and pray...

Seth

19:46

Why in the world does this have an "unclear what you're asking" close vote?!?

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Q: Why is it unsafe to delete old kernels?

I have run out of space in my boot drive, so I decided to remove old Kernels. I found this page which describes exactly what I should do: Lubuntu Documentation: Remove Old Kernels. I have deleted the oldest kernel manually and now it is okay, but I don’t understand one thing: at the end of the a...

kernel

Fabby

@Toroidal instead of plug and play!

user136984

:D

user136984

So why do they offer utilities to install these modules then if they can cause problems?

Fabby

@Toroidal read How to install Software on Ubuntu

@Seth Because the one who cast that vote is a dummy???

Mateo

@Seth I'd be more inclined to "primarily opinion" because what is "safe" and for who?

Fabby

19:49

@Seth a moran

Mateo

but, it is a good question

and a good answer by oli

Fabby

Yes, a very good one (upvoted)

Seth

@Mateo I don't see how it is opinion based either. Especially since he's quoting the official ubuntu wiki.

but ok.

@Fabby lol

user136984

But I just don't really understand why there is software specifically for ubuntu, which is advertised by trusted sources, which does harm to your machine... Why does it actually do something bad? Is it a incompatibility issue or something?

Mateo

@Seth just saying i might be able to understand that vote slightly from his wording

but not unclear...

Fabby

19:51

@Toroidal No, it could cause harm...

I like stable!

14.04 LTS, no PPAs (except xorg-edgers, but that's why I have system back-ups)

no deb files (except skype)

no tarballs

ByteCommander

Fabby

And I never have any problems with my machine....

ByteCommander

If you need a new mainboard for you bath-towel... ^

(actually it's a kitchen towel, but who cares?)

Mateo

@Toroidal sure, both my netbooks and another intel board suffered extreem slowdown in the dash, so probally incompatibility, or canonicals version has an extra patch down the line... because that is what ubuntu starts with then the test and get it out to you later

they could have fixed that problem, but after that I made it a policy for myself always to use the version provided in ubuntu

user136984

Ok

user136984

19:58

So it has now finished and it says:

user136984

Added:
dkms:all (2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu5.14.10)
i915-3.18-3.16-dkms:all (1)
i965-va-driver:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libgles1-mesa:amd64 (10.4.0-0intel1)
libgles2-mesa:amd64 (10.4.0-0intel1)
libosmesa6:amd64 (10.4.0-0intel1)
libva-drm1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva-egl1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva-glx1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva-tpi1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva-wayland1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva-x11-1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libva1:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
libvdpau1:amd64 (0.7-2)
va-driver-all:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
vainfo:amd64 (1.5.0-1)
vdpau-va-driver:amd64 (0.7.4-3)

user136984

So how do I reverse what I did?

Rinzwind

@Seth might be related to the 1st comment :P

Mateo

@Toroidal first check if things work nice, if they work ok - don't worry about it

user136984

@Mateo What sort of things should I check?

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