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Q: Should voting to close a correctly closed question for the right reason really be considered failure?

Eliah KaganI encountered this review audit. To test me, the review item told me the question had received close votes as primarily opinion-based. This was obviously wrong, which I recognized quickly, but I saw a comment pointing to another question. It seemed like it might be a post might be a duplicate, so...

00:35
there have been multiple times where I failed when I shouldn't
This doesn't seem related however.
looks like I Just narrowly missed the Java-bashing party
There was a Java bashing party?
I've been transitioning from Java to Python ... I've learned a lot about the differences between the two communities
I would not have called it bashing, but if it was, I seem to be the only one on Java's site... :P
00:43
yeah, I noticed :D
I think Java actually is a better language to learn about basic concepts from than Python.
@ByteCommander next time just use this:
It's the doctor. Your argument is invalid as well
double invalid!
I found an argument for the Java enemies:
You see, I am flexible. ;)
thats pretty mild
00:45
well, constructors are evil, whether in java or any other language :D
@ByteCommander you're late. that one has been around. for.eve.er.
The Problem with Java, is Java
as stated before
2 hours ago, by Virusboy
Its Java, that's why
made the moment the movie dropped in theaters
How about ^?
00:48
actually I guess I'll just say I think Java is pretty awesome and leave it at that...
@Chan-HoSuh Thank you! >:)
If Java is so awesome, why do browser vendors disable the plugin so often because of security vulnerabilities, huh?
coming from you, man, that's an obvious troll..
You're allowed to like java... just not the java plugin - or call it cross-platform ;)
00:49
you statement will now have napalm generously applied till it can fill a 64x64 tank then lit with an exploding star going supernova @Chan-HoSuh
anyway, it's just a last defense, I guess ... I'm basically Python guy now
Is Java a good programming language? Let the penguin decide...
user image
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Goes back to running valgrind...
<-- Goes back to run Java...
;)
00:53
java and php are the same
not sure if you're trolling, but there are some big, obvious differences
evening
not really they are both garbage
PHP is not the same as Java.
actually I lied, I was pretty sure
I don't know why I said that
00:54
@NathanOsman read my statement above yours
PHP doesn't even try.
anyone know in good documentation on looking into advanced regex with variables?
I just usually read the man pages
garbage is garbage no matter how good it looks, EA proved that.
Don't you think it's time to stop now once again? Rant about melted chocolate eggs!
00:56
Java is at least usable. PHP doesn't even deserve to exist.
it's fine, ByteCom, keep working at your Java and go make your living
:)
I will.
Changing the subject... BACON.
and remember there is always Jython
I introduced the best idea ever
The Bacon Bra
00:57
somehow the juxtaposition of those two images... it works
@hbdgaf I wonder what's inside...
@Virusboy o.O"?? What the hell do you dream of at night!!??
Probably... moar bacon!
00:59
@ByteCommander How badly do you want to find out
that's raw bacon, who wants an oral infection from e coli... not me.
or greasy fingers. either way.
it's the greasy fingers that's really bothering you
I've known a lot of computer geeks...
@Virusboy This is just... ewww! It loses the the advantages of both bacon and bras. You can neither fry it nor whatever you could do with the other one.
better?
No. Almost all development on Unity 7 has stopped to focus on Unity 8. They might still fix bugs but new features are certainly not coming to Unity 7. — Seth ♦ 17 secs ago
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NO!
see any problems with that?
ok, seriously guys?
dunno, is that a trick question?
Erm... this conversation did not go where I intended... at all.
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@Seth there is a problem peroid
Are you going to clean this up yourselves are am I going to have to do it for you?
01:01
@Seth Blame Virusboy!
19:58 wil have to be you @seth
ty
well, and just when I thought we were harkening back to the dark days of UseNet
@Chan-HoSuh nope
"lets not finish 7 and just jump on 8"
Yea no thats totally legit way of thinking
Well, afaik, that's what happened.
Unity 7 is pretty much finished anyway.
01:02
Microshaft right? There is no surprise from me
And valgrind didn't find anything wrong with my code which obviously has something wrong with it.
Thing is, Unity 8 is practically a complete re-write.
did you forget a block of code @NathanOsman
I couldn't get it to run at all in 14.10.
@Virusboy No, it's much stranger than that. I've narrowed it down to a certain method. When I comment out the body of the method, it works. When I leave the body as-is, it doesn't work. The weird part is that the method is never called anywhere in the code...
hey let's talk about Python 2 versus 3 ;-)
@NathanOsman then it sounds like thre a bug within the comiler itself
what language, Nathan?
I kinda doubt GCC has a bug.
@Chan-HoSuh C++.
or you are not expressly detailing what it supposed to be doing and not just generalizing like most interperters allow you to do
That might explain it...
I don't believe there's a guarantee in C++ that the method will not be compiled
01:07
it will simply becuase its object based
so the object is read instead of the lines
Interestingly, valgrind is complaining about a non-existent syscall.
but its not calling anything
No, valgrind is a special tool for profiling applications and detecting memory leaks, etc.
then where is it calling from
It hooks the libc memory allocation functions and tracks leaked memory, double frees, etc.
01:11
My thought as beginner would be a syntax error with a comment or brace or "" which is left open... But that's probably something very different and would have been showed as error earlier.
Better nvm what I said.
Anything like that would be a compile-time error.
This weird behavior is happening at runtime.
Oh, sorry. Did not see that line...
 
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jrg
jrg
02:18
So one of the problems I've been having appears to be related to a corrupted partition map.
because as soon as i did a fsck on it, it stopped being a problem.
It's the little things. It's not always a change that you made.
@terdon A few years ago, I found the option. I think it was in Office 2007.
You could open and save as UTF-8, as i recall.
02:41
@jrg sorry, but you basically asked for this :P
I've managed to get the reproducible example of the bug that I've spent the day tracking down reduced to 6 files.
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Q: Advanced sort options for questions?

j0hIs there a way to do sorting of questions based on: number of views? number of views per (some time frame) frequently asked, without answers number of votes for questions, without answers number or user reputation Or other options for sorting and searching for questions I might care about ...

03:09
Excellent. Now I'm down to four small files that reproduce the issue.
Looks like I need to fire up a Trusty VM on an amd64 machine.
QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
Aborted (core dumped)
Wha...
Oh, oops. I was linking against QtGui.
So I can't reproduce it on x86.
The bug seems to be ARM-related.
04:09
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Press Change key to free Pdf To Doc Converter by BumedVohix on askubuntu.com
04:48
I just built a Raspberry Pi 2 image with Utopic.
I haven't tested it yet though.
05:12
How did an edit get suggested for a deleted post?askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/399648
@hbdgaf: this one should at least give you a bit of a chuckle ---^
There's a cry of desperation in there somewhere.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Active Ingredients Found in La Lumieres by Mary Galvan on askubuntu.com
05:29
No idea what that has to do with Java, but okay.
Huh. My image is missing sudo.
06:03
Forget that Utopic image I linked above.
It's missing a ton of system packages.
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Q: Cron job * is replaced by file name in current directory

GauravGuptaThis is my first shell script program, so i think this is more likely a silly question for you all. Overview of problem My need is to write a shell command for installing our Node.js server. Server needs to install 3 crons as dependency. We offer 3 different environment. Problem So when i t...

 
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Woah. The font everywhere is now ubuntu condensed?
Is there any rule/change to gray-out comments when a/an Q/A become to gray text color due the downvotes? I can not read the comments!!
And why we the accept button gets bigger that usual?
And why we are using the circle around the tick mark while most of SE sites uses only tickmark sign?
And I have to say I saw Minor site design updates
oops! "And why we the accept button gets bigger that usual?"
And why the accept button gets bigger than usual?
09:17
@Toroidal No, he hasn't... Just that there were a lot of useless start, so it just looked like he had been at it again! ;-)
@NathanOsman I like the response to your bug from an hour ago: "Can you use the old shit, because the new shit is a bit shitty!" :D :D :D
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> "Tox, is a free and secure alternative to skype, with multiple clients available for Mac, Windows and of course Linux. Although the projects is in its early stages, its already highly usable." - Tox, the free and secure skype replacement - EuroBytes
12:48
@blade19899 Want to talk in another room?
@blade19899 (i.o.w.: let's get a room together! :D)
"Meaning on your experience may differ from mine" = "meaning: your mileage may vary"
then a comma then "as these are still nightly builds." (Typisch Nederlandse fout: teveel possessieve ' :P "nightlys" zou "OK" geweest zijn". "Nightly builds" is beter...
"latest of the latest and whit nightly builds" = "latest and greatest and with nightly builds"
@Fabby You're again dashing nightly software? ;)
"that is certain with almost all of you" "that's certainly almost all of you"
@ByteCommander I'm against nightly builds, yes...
There was no qTox update for over a week now, so...
I'm just giving @blade19899 some free blog grammar & spelling checking service...
@ByteCommander Now I know what you were talking about! ;-)
Don't see the original...?
12:58
No nightly builds on my system...
the red link above from blade
Now a smoke! (and a drink)
That's written by blade?
Btw I think except some minor bugs in its usage (e.g. edits are sent as new posts currently), qTox is pretty stable. It never crashed.
I just had problems to connect with my buddy who has Win7 and µTox... Text worked, but neither image transfer nor voice calls did. Probably it's a bug of µTox or the Windows implementation.
> searching for "smoke" when said by Fabby:
77 messages found
You're living pretty unhealthy! ^
@Fabby, I forgot you were a spelling and grammer freak ;D
Strange behaviour - askubuntu.com/q/606902/367990 Don't understand that.
@blade19899 You know he's an English and French teacher?
@ByteCommander I do now :D
So that's no surprise...
13:06
@Fabby Your suggested edits have been applied.
And when you have time, would love to get a room with you. Pun intented.
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@Fabby Oh good... I'm glad he's not back! :)
Been at my laptop for to long. Fresh Air break!
@blade19899 Good idea! :) I'll join you in a minute.
Back!
jrg
jrg
@NathanOsman LOL
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13:32
Oi!
user136984
@SmokeDetector
user136984
You missed this one!
user136984
Oh, just slow then...
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:P
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13:33
Or maybe he actually took my advise... :D
jrg
jrg
@SmokeDetector nice job
14:25
Pandas. "Eats, shoots and leaves." How... evil! They eat stuff calmly... then... kill people with... guns!
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@wolfboyft How did you get off my ignore list?! And why do you hate pandas so much? My army of pandas will destroy you!!! >:) >:) >:)
user136984
Very odd... This guy's chat profile says "wolfboyft", but his AU profile is "James Kayla"'s...
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I should not have announced how much I loved pandas, or pandas probably would not have just been insulted so... :D :P
Oli
Oli
14:41
@Toroidal The chat profiles are based on one account from any SE site (the person picks which is their main account) and profiles aren't neccessarily the same on each site, hence the difference.
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@Oli It's still not very nice for him to insult pandas though... :(
user136984
What have pandas ever done to him?!!!
What have pandas ever done for anyone? ;p
Oli
Oli
Well that could end up being quite a personal question. Pandas might have done a lot to him.
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14:44
@Oli Like what?!!!
Oli
Oli
...Panda stuff...
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And he doesn't even specify if he means Red Pandas or Giant Pandas!
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@Oli What panda stuff?!
user136984
Choose your words carefully from now on unless you want an army of pandas at your doorstep! >:D
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:P
Oli
Oli
14:45
Maybe panda's ate his baby.
user136984
@Oli Well, that is very unlikely...
user136984
Pandas are mostly vegetarian you know?
Oli
Oli
Unless he's married to a bamboo plant and his half-bamboo son was at a zoo with his school and suddenly WHAM, panda eating your half-bamboo son. Happens more often than you'd think.
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They also eat whatever they can catch
But since they're not so fast, they tend to have to settle for bamboo.
Hmm actually, they seem to have a top speed of 32km/h, not that fast but not slow enough to explain bamboo. No accounting for taste, I guess.
@blade19899: back to the other room?
@Fabby Sure, not for long though. Friend of mine just had an exam, he wants to 'chill hard' tonight xD
@Oli I think you've been eating too much raw bamboo.
Oli
Oli
14:52
@terdon That's what the panda propaganda machine wants you to think.
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It is still unacceptable to be rude about pandas though! No matter your reason! Capital Punishment for all those panda haters out there! >:) >:) >:)
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@JourneymanGeek You see? I told you that they would take over the world and be our powerful overlords! >:D
@Oli Propapanda?
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grmpf, my daily vote limit is reached
14:57
There is a daily vote limit?
:) yes
Never affected me until now... Guess that's not good.
In any case, for me.
@Fabby, sorry, had to many heavy software running in the background my system lagged to much to reply back fast.
But,
> sudo sh -c 'echo "deb https://repo.tox.im/ nightly main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tox.list'
wget -qO - https://repo.tox.im/pubkey.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https
sudo apt-get update
@A.B. vote up less comments. Vote up more Qs and As...
;-)
That's how I get around it!
15:07
QTox anyone? ;D
@Fabby Comments I vote rare.
@ByteCommander Means you're Uncle Scrooge when it comes to upvotes!
user136984
What does @SmokeDetector mean when it says blacklisted user?
@Toroidal It means a user who spammed too much...
or James Kayla -style users... >:)
user136984
Ok
user136984
15:09
@Fabby: So does that mean that if James Kayla ever posted anything on the main AU site that @SmokeDetector would tell us about it here?
SmokeDetector, what a nice name :)
@ByteCommander I used to be a French and English teacher... Now I'm back looking for a job in IT! (@blade19899 too)
@Toroidal I'm not a mod... I dunno that kind of detail...
user136984
Ok :)
Ask one of the smurfs...
:D
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:D
15:11
Two pings? Who made me wake up?
Ahh...
I was one...
@Toroidal Yes.
OK, back to answering some futile questions...
@Fabby You were both.
>:)
:D I'm twice as good as I thought! ;-)
15:13
<-- is still smiling every time it sees terdon's "Propapanda" in the star section... :D
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@ByteCommander Good, so I'll know if he starts coming and insulting pandas on the main site as well... >:)
I was trying to build the new Unreal Tournament game, so I read the documentation, first thought: screw this.
That rat trap in our compost heap makes me sad...
I hope the rat is intelligent enough to avoid it.
16:02
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Q: line 16 : syntax error : EOF in backquote subbstiution

Rahul Gohraniclear echo "Enter a num" read num if [ $num -ge 0 ] then f=1 i=1 while [ $i -le $num ] do f=`expr $f\* $i i=`expr $i +1` done echo "The factorial of $num is $f" else echo "Enter positive number" fi

that's a generic code question OR unclear what's being asked - in either case it needs to burn.
please close vote it
@ThomasW. I agree that there's no question but bash is perfectly on topic here.
j0h
j0h
16:40
what is the best way to get the average CPU temperature from the command line? I am finding the output of sensors to be inconsistent from one machine to the next. I wrote a script that gives me the info (average core temp), but it wont work right if I try to use it any other place than my personal PC.

echo `sensors -A | awk {'print $3'} | sed 's/+\|(crit\|0:\|°C//g'` | awk '{print ($1 + $2 + $3 + $4)/4}'

where if I had more cores, it woudl break, or if I add a GPU it would break.
is there a better way to get average core temp?
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Q: Are bash/shell scripting questions on topic?

terdonI have seen a number of users voting to close scripting questions as off topic. Is this the community consensus? Are bash question not welcome here? How about other shell programming questions?

@j0h sensors -A | grep ^Core | grep -oP ' \+\K\d+' | awk '{k+=$1}END{print k/NR}'
That should be portable to any GNU system.
The main trick is to not use /4 but NR which is the number of lines. The spaces at the beginning of the grep pattern ensure you only get the temp and not the other numbers.
Actually, you don't need two, this one is simpler:
sensors -A | grep -oP '^Core.+?  \+\K\d+'   | awk '{k+=$1}END{print k/NR}'
user136984
It's strange... AskUbuntu is not allowing me to ask any more questions... I click the post question thing and nothing happens... :(
user136984
Well, will just have to wait and see then...
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And ask questions here.
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16:50
I can't even post on main meta about this because I can't post at all.
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Does anyone know why that could be?
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I don't even get a notice...
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:(
Weird. It works for me.
16:51
Is there a restriction for Qs per day/week?
user136984
Yes, but it normally tells you.
user136984
@ByteCommander 6 per day, 50 per month.
user136984
But it will normally notify you if you have reached the limit every time you try and post something.
Btw the rat in our garden seems to have cleared the trap! Looks like it triggered it with an old salad leave... and then took the sausage!
Very clever animal. :)
I hope it flees before they think of another way to kill it.
user136984
@ByteCommander Why put rats traps in there anyway? Is it not the point that it gets recycled? So why would you prefer fungi to do it rather than to feed a poor rat?
16:57
I did not put it there!
Parents don't want to have the rat around... :(
I think it's a pretty sweet and clever animal.
user136984
@ByteCommander Well, I'm sure that the rat doesn't want your parents around either, and what goes around comes around... So you better watch out for human traps in your food to now! >:P
;)
A wise man once said: "A mouse would never have the idea to construct a mouse trap. The humans in contrary invented the A-bomb."
So I feel pretty safe, concerning the rat.
\o
I don't understand this formatting. Usually a backslash has to be escaped, I though...
j0h
j0h
@Toroidal lol
@terdon Thank you. I will check that out.
@terdon I have a thread open here, if you would like points for your answer: askubuntu.com/questions/607255/improve-bash-script
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17:18
Are questions about accessing your BIOS on-topic here? Because they are not actually really do to with Ubuntu even if it is installed. For the BIOS does not depend on the OS.
@j0h Muru's answer there is the same basic idea but better. Use that.
But sure, I'll post. Why not :)
Interestingly, it appears the USB ports on my desktop don't supply the same voltage when the machine is powered off as when it is on.
@NathanOsman Energy-saving mode?
I don't want it to save energy :P
I want it to deliver the same amount of voltage to my connected devices :P
You are so ignorant. Save the planet! Think green! Rescue the pandas!
17:22
It was giving my Raspberry Pi 2 some issues since it depends on a relatively stable supply of 5V.
BIOS setting maybe?
@ByteCommander Having my machine not deliver slightly more voltage isn't going to save anything.
That was written with a well dosed amount of irony.
jrg
jrg
SAVE ALLL THE WORLDS
and pandas
mostly worlds
don't care about pandas.
use a :p at the end when joking ;P
jrg
jrg
17:24
;-D
yo @jrg how goes things
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@jrg If you do not instantly apologies to the pandas of the multiverse then they will rage an infinite war on you! >:D
same old, same old?
@Toroidal pandas live in the multiverse??
thought they only existed in this verse
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@Mateo In fact they are of a higher dimension and exist there and here at the same time.
user136984
17:30
They are like the mice, except more important.
user136984
We are in fact the 4th and not the 3rd most intelligent animal on the planet.
@NathanOsman with unity and everything?
No, I'm running LXDE on the Pi.
ah
jrg
jrg
@Mateo things go ok.
17:31
@Toroidal We = {Humans | Pandas | Toothpaste cakes with Halloween pumpkin face }?
user136984
@ByteCommander No, we as in Humans.
So what do you consider as #1-3?
@jrg thats good
user136984
And the reason why you are seeing less and less pandas is because they know about the impending doom of this planet. And like the dolphins have decided to stop trying to communicate about it to us, and just leave.
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1: Pandas
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17:33
2: Mice
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3: Dolphins
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4: Humans
Why mice??
42.
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I would replace them with penguins.
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17:34
Yep, 42.
jrg
jrg
@Mateo how're you doing?
Huh? What is 42?
user136984
The answer to life, the universe, and everything!
iydkydg
jrg
jrg
42 (forty-two) is the natural number immediately following 41 and directly preceding 43. The number has received considerable attention in popular culture as a result of its central appearance in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as the "Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything". == Mathematics == Forty-two is a pronic number and an abundant number; its prime factorization 2 · 3 · 7 makes it the second sphenic number and also the second of the form { 2 · 3 · r }. As with all sphenic numbers of this form, the aliquot sum is abundant by 12. 42 is also the sec...
It's between 41 and 43
Aahh! Makes sense.
jrg
jrg
@NathanOsman what, it was a off-by-one error?
Or was it a corrupt SD card?
Neither.
jrg
jrg
ooooh. plot thickens
It was a bug caused by incorrect flags being passed to the compiler. But not in my code, in the Qt code.
jrg
jrg
17:36
Oh! Upstream bugs are the best, or the worst.
So now I need to convince the fine Ubuntu folks to backport the fix.
...or my application won't run properly under Trusty.
At least, I think that's the case.
There may be a way for me to get it running by tweaking the flags when the app is compiled.
I'm not sure yet. More research is necessary.
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But as well as 42, there is another very important thing...
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Krikkit.
user136984
I think it was spelt like that anyway... :D
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Anyone know if I got the spelling right?
user136984
17:39
Google certainly didn't think so... :P
Er, no.
@jrg not bad, had a cold over the weekend, didn't get much done. but doing a logo, and possibly a mystery(clouded in can't say paperwork) project coming up
jrg
jrg
@Mateo That sucks, but sometimes a dday or 2 of nothing is whats needed. OOOH neat.
@jrg they so should-have jumped to do that as the movie instead of rehashing the first book again
jrg
jrg
Heh
17:43
So here's the patch they need to apply: codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/81095/2//ALL,unified
It's relatively simple. I see no reason it couldn't be done.
user136984
You know? There really should be a Marvin language pack for Ubuntu! Where everything is put in the most depressing way possibly! :D :P
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