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Mitch

19:00

@fossfreedom Thanks..

Seth

@Braiam java-gnome

Mitch

@fossfreedom How about

fossfreedom

@FrankSlezak yes you can ... but in this case, I presume you are talking about that wine question. Your answer really didnt have a new angle on the dupe question. if it did I would have merged. If you can come up with something that is fundamentally additional that is not already covered in the dupe, I would be happy to merge.

Seth

Wait.. which one of you Brits was the one that didn't like Tea? Was it Oli or FOSS?

fossfreedom

love tea ... I'm just going to make one - thanks for reminding me !

Thomas W.

19:03

If you all haven't already downvoted the accepted answer here can you downvote it?

Mitch

I know Foss likes Tea a lot

Rinzwind

@Seth that is IMPOSSIBLE

Thomas W.

my +20 +500 answer on that question is actually complete and works

Rinzwind

A brit not liking tea is like a dutch person not liking cheese.

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Thomas W.

speaking of tea or coffee or drinks... someone want to lend me $3 until the checks I deposited clear, so I can buy my daily coffee?

Mitch

19:04

@Rinzwind Amen to that..

Braiam

@ThomasW. O_O

Thomas W.

@Braiam I have a -$10 balance in my bank accounts, with pending $100 check deposits into each of them, so I have $180 I can't yet use.

Seth

Nov 5 at 22:59, by Oli

@Seth Can't stand the stuff. I'll take coffee and energy drinks over a cup of tea any day.

Thomas W.

(fees're waived because the money is in the works)

Seth

Sad I know..

Thomas W.

19:06

C O F F E E ! ! !

Seth

Suit yourself.

Rinzwind

T e a!!!

Seth

Any idea why my delay doesn't work here @ThomasW.?

fossfreedom

@Rinzwind tea made ... aaah - perfect.

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom Earl Grey I presume?

fossfreedom

19:08

too posh

Rinzwind

I was in London last week and had LOTS and LOTS of tea :D

Thomas W.

@Seth that's Java or C++ isnt it

fossfreedom

whereabouts in london?

Braiam

@Seth:

ai java-gnome
Couldn't find package "java-gnome".  However, the following
packages contain "java-gnome" in their name:
  libjava-gnome-jni:amd64 libjava-gnome-jni libjava-gnome-java
  libjava-gnome-java-doc
Couldn't find package "java-gnome".  However, the following
packages contain "java-gnome" in their name:
  libjava-gnome-jni:amd64 libjava-gnome-jni libjava-gnome-java
  libjava-gnome-java-doc
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Thomas W.

@Seth I'm not a coder pro, ask on SO?

Braiam

19:10

/me waiting for stuff to get installed

Seth

@Braiam In Debian it's libjava-gnome-java

@ThomasW. Just thought you might now.. Since I thought you knew Java.

Thomas W.

@Seth I know enough Java to get by in a pinch, but I prefer NOT coding in Java

since Java is an evil horrible piece of crap

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom place to stay was Crawley (80m south). Spent lots of time in center London.

Frank Slezak

/me goes to get coffee (again, 4th cup today)

Braiam

@ThomasW. would probably be closed of this one stackoverflow.com/q/8987485/792066

Thomas W.

19:12

@Braiam Probably, but I meant go over to their chat and ask in a Java channel

Seth

@Braiam No it wouldn't. Two different questions.

@ThomasW. Didn't think of that.

Thomas W.

declares he has superior thought processes over @Seth as a result.

Seth

lol

Frank Slezak

really thinks at least 10% of the questions of AU are asked by idiots

Mitch

Frank Slezak

19:15

@Mitch #Likewhore

Thomas W.

Can someone poke @troylatroy about these kinds of edits?

those edits are bad, and wrong, and need to be subjected to the infinite fires of oblivion

Rinzwind

@FrankSlezak only 10%?

Frank Slezak

@Rinzwind good point. i'm only looking at newest. doing a bit more browsing, 35% at the very least.

Thomas W.

@fossfreedom perhaps you can poke them about that?

Mitch

@FrankSlezak ?

Braiam

19:17

@ThomasW. wait, he's removing the <pre> tags for ugli <code> tags?

Frank Slezak

@Mitch: A likewhore is a user on a social networking site that begs for likes, often using the "like or comment" method.

Thomas W.

@Braiam look at markdown instead.

@Braiam markdown's easier to see what he's doing.

and yes, he's removing pre formatting i.e. CODE BLOCKS for in-line ` code ` stuff

fossfreedom

@ThomasW. the OP rarely makes edits looking at his suggestion queue - no need to get heavy handed.

Thomas W.

@fossfreedom it's the lack of coffee

and the lack of money to GET coffee

me - coffee = evil

Braiam

@ThomasW. Imma looking at markdown by default, but "removing the space indentation to add backticks" sounds so bad...

fossfreedom

19:19

me finished tea ... in a good mood.

Frank Slezak

foss. tea does NOTHING. try coffee.

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom chocolate chip cookie? :)

Frank Slezak

Programmer (n): A machine that turns coffee into code.

Braiam

> fixed some format

D:

Frank Slezak

Java (n): What happens when you give a programmer very strong coffee.

fossfreedom

19:20

@Rinzwind xmas pudding next

Mitch

@FrankSlezak I know what it means, but I don't think that's the case here ..

Braiam

just me or chat became lively... all the rooms I'm

Frank Slezak

@mitch of course everyone will say no battery is worse. if you run outta fuel, you can call someone to bring you some.

just noticed. this is the only page i use my real name on...

Mitch

Not if your cell phone battery is dead :)

Frank Slezak

... you win this round, evil twin. recedes into shadow

Rinzwind

19:23

@FrankSlezak you can charge your phone if you have fuel :+

Frank Slezak

and if you dont have a charger?

Seth

Crank charger FTW!

Rinzwind

Time for some darts :) bbl

Frank Slezak

i hate you all so much.

Seth

:)

pacificfils

19:26

...

Mitch

;)

pacificfils

yay. username fixed.

Braiam

@Seth: java -jar seth.jar
Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile seth.jar

is a jar, right?

pacificfils

lel

seth.jar is a new virus, Braiam.

Seth

@Braiam Yeah..

pacificfils

19:27

It scrambles the last half of all text files on your hdd.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: is there a way to change the size of hats?

I got a hat that has ears but it's too big for my head ...so is it possible to make it smaller? I think this feature is crucial if it doesn't exist.

Braiam

@Seth mine bork

pacificfils

twitch

Braiam

java -jar Downloads/notifyTest.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/gnome/gtk/Gtk
	at notifyTest.main(notifyTest.java:7)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.gnome.gtk.Gtk
	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:355)
	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)

pacificfils

That means you don't have gtk, or its not working

Seth

19:32

Yeah, you need to specify the class location.

Hang on a sec.

Braiam

/me have no freaking idea of what he's doing

pacificfils

Don't worry. All you need to know is how to read java errors.

Try installing the dev version of gnome, gtk, libnotify

Braiam

@pacificfils hahahahaha (monotone)

Seth

java -classpath Downloads/lib/gtk-4.1.jar -jar Downloads/notifyTest.jar

Try that.

pacificfils

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/gnome/gtk/Gtk

Braiam

19:34

@Seth what is /lib/gtk-4.1.jar? I don't have that :D

Seth

@Braiam Oh.. You need to download all the files in the Java folder I linked ;)

pacificfils

Exception = error
in = in
thread = app
"main" = program
"java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError" = libraries don't exist
"org/gnome" = gnome
"gtk/GTK" = gtk

not hard braiam

will you please post that in au so i can get some rep?

Braiam

doesn't gtk has java libs?

pacificfils

not unless you install them. its in the *-dev package

Braiam

> Standard Widget Toolkit for GTK+ Java library

> libswt-gtk-3-java

Seth

19:38

Just 3 files and 1 folder

pacificfils

try -dev packages

Braiam

@Seth not found

Seth

Errg. Hang on.

pacificfils

-dev is your friend

Seth

There aren't any -dev packages.

pacificfils

19:39

okay.

it is a gtk class not found. did you include the class?

Seth

I did, but @Braiam forgot to download it.

pacificfils

lol

so libnotify-dev is NOT needed?

Seth

Shouldn't be needed.

pacificfils

okay.

Seth

I thought you were talking about libjava-gnome-java-dev though.

Let me see if I have it installed.

pacificfils

19:41

oh, i heard a rumor that mir is finally fixed on the Grouper.

Seth

Nope. I don't.

pacificfils

is the rumor true?

Seth

I think so.. Which one was the grouper?

@Braiam Any better?

pacificfils

nexus 7 2012 edition

Seth

Ah. Then I think so.

pacificfils

19:42

FINALLY.

Seth

2 days ago, by Mateo

Wow, I think they fixed the Mir glitch on the nexus 7 for Ubuntu touch

pacificfils

thank god.

that was soo annoying

Braiam

@Seth only 5 secs

pacificfils

well, back to testing.

GLaDOS mode activated

Seth

@Braiam What does that mean?

Braiam

19:45

that mine only spend 5 secs

Seth

Ah.

Must be a system thing then.. I still have no idea why it isn't working..

pacificfils

does this place have freenode?

Seth

Nope.

pacificfils

sigh.

Seth

Why use IRC when we have this?

pacificfils

19:46

ubuntu integration

Braiam

how the heck I edit the files?

Seth

@Braiam Guess I'll just leave that bit out of my answer.

@Braiam You only edit notifyTest.jar. Extract it with archive manager, edit the .class file.

You'll have to rebuild it if you want to run it after that though.

Braiam

/me remembers why he hates java

pacificfils

java is great

Seth

Heh. You can't edit an object file.

but then, that's a good thing sometimes.

assumes Braiam hates Java because he loves C

Anyway, I'm out for now and I'll just leave that part out of the answer until further notice.

Mateo

19:57

@pacificfils tried it out a few days ago. Seemed OK, but I think it will still crash on a screen shot

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Q: How to switch from Mir to Surfaceflinger?

Because of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1238695 Ubuntu Touch on the Google Nexus 7 (grouper), Touch randomly freezes, and flickers. It is bad enough that I cannot do anything except restart the device. I was just wondering how to workaround this, can I switch back to the "surfa...

ubuntu-touch nexus-7

Braiam

@Seth what the heck is this?

Mateo

So, "Triaged" some things are still wierd but I think the major stutter freeze seems fixed

Seth

20:23

@Braiam What are you trying to do?

Is that the .class file?

@Braiam Okay, so it's not as easy to decompile a .jar as I thought.

If you want to change it you'll have to edit it manually, creating the whole thing from scratch. (not hard..)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

20:38

0

Q: (java websocket) server location standards

I'm writing a server on a shared development desktop that moonlights as a server. This is my first attempt at writing a linux server for someone else on a shared box. I'd like to conform to unix standards and make it as professional as possible. In what directory should the websocket server be...

ubuntu directory server java

Braiam

@Seth /me continues to remember why he hates java so much...

Braiam

20:55

why this seem like he's using flackoverstow askubuntu.com/a/396505/169736?

can anyone make sense of what is answer and what is troubleshooting here askubuntu.com/q/366032/169736? apparently the solution works

(cc @Takkat )

Seth

Good grief. No worse than C/++

Braiam

mm?

Takkat

21:13

@Braiam the pulseaudio bluetooth module should always load... at least it does on my systems. No idea why it doesn't appear to load there - seems to be an Xubuntu peculiarity. The answer is sort of a quarter solution only.

hbdgaf

21:58

@Mateo awesomewauce ;)

@jrg ^^ the mugs. i managed to get eight of them.

Thomas W.

I'm not wrong here, am I?

hbdgaf

It's normal. The how/why could be one of many things, but "that's normal" is right.

@ThomasW. The "because it's used up by system" isn't quite right...

Thomas W.

@hbdgaf propose a revision, or edit my answer

i have to deal with security bugs in nginx today

hbdgaf

heh. have fun with that. i'll think on how specific you really want to get to some guy on AU.

Thomas W.

22:13

@hbdgaf the "it's normal" part is fine, but you can strike whatever ( I already have +3 there)

@hbdgaf revised though

hbdgaf

@ThomasW. it's really about how ocd you want to be about details, how deep you want to explain, etc. it can come down to how the mobo provisions memory, how the OS indexes really large amounts of memory just in case, shared video. i'ld probs just leave it as is to avoid the more details please and ... no it's not that ... in the comments.

Thomas W.

22:30

@hbdgaf with the newly-revised version, is that acceptable for newbies?

they'll probably ask "Why is it not usable?" then we're in for the technical description hell, but meh

jrg

@hbdgaf how much?

hbdgaf

lines crossed sorry

jrg

hah

ok

hbdgaf

@Mateo - $50 was the donation.
@jrg - I haven't checked to see fits/ships boxes and packing material.

jrg

@hbdgaf ok

Mateo

22:32

@hbdgaf :)

Thomas W.

@jrg burn the answer on this and force close as dupe please

hbdgaf

@jrg should be pretty simple to do, i just got them today, so checking the boxes should happen within the week. since it's eight instead of twenty it should probably fit in one of their 14-17 boxes. if that's the case i'll probably just ping you to confirm and send it postage due on receipt if you want.

@ThomasW. i like it better. it avoids the ignorance or troll-battle that could ensue. there was one on linkedin tech support discussion group that went on for DAYS about that type of problem.

Thomas W.

lol

hbdgaf

i think i finally just meme-bombed it with:

hbdgaf

22:53

off for some l4d2 RnR. later on peeps.

Mateo

@hbdgaf later

guntbert

hmm .. Why do they migrate a question to AU that is not really on topic here?

1

Q: Ghostscript Segmentation fault (core dumped) where it's dumped?

I'm trying to convert PDF to JPG with command: gs -dUseTrimBox -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dFirstPage=1 -dLastPage=1 -dNumRenderingThreads=2 -sOutputFile=/fileout.jpg -dJPEGQ=80 -r188 -f filein.pdf In ubuntu 12.04 server and ghostscript ve...

ghostscript

He says (builded from source")

so I guess we are facing a bug?

Alvar

@hbdgaf Are you running Lubuntu? :P Now we know what you look like ;)

Seth

1

A: How to raise user notifications in Ubuntu using java code?

You can use java-gnome, a java binding for GTK and Gnome to display notify-osd notifications. You'll need to install the library first: sudo apt-get install libjava-gnome-java libjava-gnome-java-doc Here is a quick example: import org.gnome.gtk.Gtk; import org.gnome.notify.Notification; ...

@Braiam There, done --^

@Alvar That's Xubuntu :P

Alvar

23:08

@Seth read it again and retracted my close vote. it's a valid question

@Seth damn, not sure what it was they are both kinda ugly lubuntu/xubuntu

Seth

@Alvar Cool :) Retracting close votes is a nice feature..

Alvar

gnome flashback fan here.

Seth

@Alvar That's true I suppose.

@Alvar I know you are ;P

Alvar

@Seth especially since a question tend to change after time.

@Seth haha

Seth

I wonder why my code isn't getting highlighted. Must not be any highlighting in the Java tag :(

Alvar

23:10

Any idea on how I can remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop? Not sure that it's needed anymore when running flashback.. It switched out the boot screen and that stuff I want the ubuntu images back

@Seth try to copy it from paste.ubuntu.com that might work..

Seth

No, it only copies as plain text. SE uses something to add the highlighting.. I forget what it's called..

@Alvar ubuntu-gnome-desktop is just a meta package, I wouldn't remove it.

You could, but it might mess up other things.

Alvar

not sure if it would mess up my flashback install..

might work if I just reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop

I want my purple boot screen back, it's grey now :S

Seth

3

A: How do I make the login screens and boot splashes match when installing different desktops?

You can remove the Lubuntu splash screen in several ways. If you want to change splash screens every once in a while you can run: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth You will be presented with a screen like the following: In this case, entering a 0 or a 1 will set the spla...

Alvar

@Seth o yeah! :D

rebooting to try it out

damn didn't work, still says ubuntu gnome....

off topic: askubuntu.com/q/396576/10698

removing the logo, that must work...

Seth

23:30

What steps did you take?

Alvar

just the first command

removed the logo now, gonna try again

also wasnt asked to remove the meta package :P

Seth

@Alvar That doesn't make sense.. It should work fine. Always did for me.

Alvar

yay, got purple boot screen, but I got still ubuntu gnome splash before the log in screen

which makes no sence...

also get a strange error on boot, notify rfkill handler

Seth

sudo apt-get remove plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-text

Alvar

aha

that was also listed...

thanks seth.

I'm gonna go now, it's late. gonna write code all day tomorrow, shouldn't be sleepy then.. :)

cya

Seth

23:40

@Alvar Cya

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