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12:00 AM

I'll have a look at it to see if you've missed something obvious :)

aye, thanks and post-merry christmas by the way ;)

Christmas eve was yesterday * 2.

today and yesterday we say something I can't translate from Swedish to English.

12:18 AM

@Alvar Votes back :)

@Seth oooo

:D

CLOSE!

lol

but watching TV :P

@jrg Which brings us to the fact that most terminal emulators report XTERM for their $TERM variable..

two and a half hours left until my next work cycle

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12:32 AM

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Q: Can we make a reminder to mark answers as accepted?

I have seen a problem on AskUbuntu. Many times, people forget to mark an answer as accepted, even if its the only one and it does work. Is there a way to add a seven-day reminder like "Mark an answer in [this question] as accepted!" Maybe an inbox notification: Hey! You forgot to mark an answer!...

feature-request

1:24 AM

i guess no one reads links askubuntu.com/questions/395739/ubuntu-touch-on-nexus-7-2013 the dupe is asking about desktop

1:36 AM

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@Seth Even iTerm on Mac reports that.

@Mateo check my updated answer ;)

@jrg No kidding lol.

cool, that should help a bit. thanks @Braiam

@Seth what I find really funny is how it doesn't behave like an XTERM for my SSH sessions.

@jrg I feel like watching the browser string new horror movie...

1:41 AM

FYI, OS X has a terrible window manager.

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@Braiam IS THIS A THING?!

whatever...

@jrg they manage windows?

what version @jrg

@Mateo O_O

@Mateo Mavericks.

I had a hunch...

1:43 AM

I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the right business or not, because I'm consistently using non-free software for my job. :(

i'm on snow leapord. and have a mountain lion drive

Hey guys, Let 4 Dead 2 is free on steam right now. For all platforms. Merry Christmas from Valve.

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(Free games? That work on Linux? Worth a PSA here)

Hey is anyone good with pulseaudio in here?

@Takkat is not here @Andrew

I have 2 wireless speakers both are mono, and are same model.... I was woundering can I use both, and make it into a stereo sound system, if possible.

That I got for X-mas

@jrg do you use Mac OSX?

@Seth are you here

@Braiam Is he the only one good with pluseaudio?

2:05 AM

@jrg I got mine :P

@Andrew he's the only I know that understand some of PA logic...

ok

@Andrew I use Mac, Windows and Ubuntu for different things.

Each has a different use. The only thing in common is that they are all things I dislike, for different reasons.

All Computers Suck.

-- James' Second Law of Computing.

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So what one do you like better?

What am I using it for?

For my primary thing, which is creating web applications in Ruby, Ubuntu is much better than anything else.

For my primary hobby, which is playing games, Windows wins.

For my secondary job, I don't have a choice. OS X is required. :\

There is no "good operating system" out there.

only ones that suck less for what you're doing at that moment in time.

2:27 AM

@Andrew Yes and no.

What up?

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4:04 AM

@karel

It isn't a question about whether it exists, it's a question of a) whether it works and b) has anyone used it.

@FrankSlezak The problem is the AU gets maybe three questions every day (I don't know exactly how many) of the type "I have device xyz. How do I install Ubuntu Touch on my device?" Multiply this by several months and you have a tsunami of duplicates. There was a long thread at AU meta about what to do about questions like this. I'll give you the link if you want to read it.

I do understand that. However, this isn't about install

It's about "does it work or not?"

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Q: Beta/Alpha/Development versions are said not being covered - so Ubuntu Touch questions are not welcome?

I just read the comment "Ubuntu Phones is in development, so it is off-topic here at Ask Ubuntu. We do not support Beta/Alpha/Development versions." Are questions welcome regarding Ubuntu Touch only after it has been introduced officially? I have seen a few questions referrring to this topic: ...

but they ARE welcome.

and there is little/no info about moto x, so he asks the community. i don't see that as a dupe of the official device list

@FrankSlezak I have also bookmarked Danielle's question... btw questions about a development release of Ubuntu are normally off topic at AU too. There is a lot of exciting development being done for Ubuntu 14.04 (TRIM support by default, web browser support for CUDA GPUs, etc.) and all that stuff is normally off topic until the release date too.

4:19 AM

ehhh. you win.

@FrankSlezak bfn

bfn?

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5:51 AM

what is the best stack exchange for asking questions about linux audio production?

I'm trying to get my expression pedal to work with my keyboard controller to mimic a sustain pedal

6:11 AM

I've actually got things working fairly .... decently... but I'm not happy with the quality and would like to hear what more experienced users are doing with their setup

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10:42 AM

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Q: How to connect Ubuntu 13.10 to TV via HDMI?

I have a Lenovo Laptop with Ubuntu 13.10 running and would like to connect it to the TV via HDMI. In the dual-boot Windows, I just have to connect the HDMI cable and the screen is displayed on the TV. How to do that in Ubuntu 13.10? When I connect the HDMI cable nothing happens, and the command...

11:24 AM

@AmithKK r u there?

ttyl

Going Out

Man, I have a lot of questions about indian schools.

Can you give me your email. I really need info from you

Thanks

@AmithKK

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12:33 PM

@Andrew you may be able to do this by creating a combined sink from remapped mono sinks where each sink is the L or R channel of your corresponding speakers. These are the PA modules you need to do this: module-remap-sink and module-combine-sink.

let it rain askubuntu.com/q/395773/169736 is just a rant...

1:20 PM

can anyone help me improve my answer (and my script...)?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20739452/using-upstart-instead-of-cron

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@AmithKK cough beats cough

2:02 PM

@AmithKK yup

oo aaoddh oo asoddh oo aod

dh oo a

oddh oo a

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2:15 PM

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Q: When did Dumindu Mahawela actually join Ask Ubuntu?

His profile mentions that he joined Ask Ubuntu about 17 days ago: Even the New Users tab mention that he joined about 17 days ago: However His activity tab shows that he has been active for much beyond 17 days. And, the first thing he did on Ask Ubuntu was to ask this question on 5th June ...

@JoshuaRobison How are you not happy with it? Choppy or something?

Goddamnit the changed the design of prism-break

prism-break.org

Did you just finish watching this or something? youtube.com/watch?v=lU7YQA72PP4

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

3:04 PM

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Q: Upgrade Ubuntu option not availiable when installing from USB stick!

I want to upgrade my current O.S. Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.10. For that purpose I created bootable usb stick using unetbootin. When the laptop boots, it boots from the usb. Now after a few steps there comes options as how to install. Please see the attachment. It may not be much clear but it wil...

ubuntu upgrade usb-drive

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4:08 PM

next piece of gear to buy, a thunderbolt hardware dev kit. direct memory access from a keyfob seems like a great idea to me for pwning the mac things.

@hbdgaf Thunderbolt gives devices Direct Memory Access?

yep. it's essentially a pcie bridge to something that looks like a usb port...so you pretend to be the right device (that uses unrestricted DMA and has a driver OOTB) then dump or write mac memory at will

on a less nefarious note, one of those ports could be really useful for someone wanting to do gpu processing on a brick that attaches to a laptop

o/ @fossfreedom

4:25 PM

@Aditya what was the purpose of your Meta? If you wanted to infer something - ping a mod and we can talk in private. No need to pose such a questionable personal Q

merry xmas @hbdgaf - hope you are having fun!

working... so not so much. still, we'll see. last time i tried to connect work and fun it took the fun out of it not the work out of it. probably better this way anyway.

aww - working :( sorry to hear that. Myself - not back to work until 6th Jan '14 \o/

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@fossfreedom Nice!

@fossfreedom Good show. I'm working retail, so time off this time of year is like pulling honeybadger teeth with eelskin

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Got my aunts old iBook G4 for christmas, using OS X right now whilst I await the download of Lubuntu 12.04. Uggh, screw Apple and their drat-blasted $50 upgrade. I want some software, but it requires at least 10.5. Thank God for Ubuntu!

@hbdgaf :) That must really stink. You got Christmas off, right?

4:31 PM

@hbdgaf - presume you get a good discount ... should get some nice stuff before the hoards descend

@RPiAwesomeness I thought apple was giving away their O/S now? Must have misread that.

i worked 2200 last night to 0700 this morning. walking dead at the moment, but i have to stay up so i sleep to a time that is conducive to me showing up at work on time tomorrow at 0700. and the discount doesn't apply to anything already on clearance...

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@fossfreedom Lol, Mavericks is free, but 10.5 sure ain't. $100+ new on Amazon: amazon.com/Mac-OS-Leopard-10-5-10-51/dp/B0012RAVRC/…

Leopard that is

"walking dead" ... "left 4 dead 2" ... there is a theme here :P

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last OS X version to support PPC, which an iBook G4 is

@RPiAwesomeness that sucks :(

4:34 PM

yes. i was saying i'm a zombie for a bit

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@fossfreedom No kidding. Lubuntu to the rescue PLEASE!

@fossfreedom the releasing l4d2 on steam for free could have been an awesome linux launch goodie. think about people that dual boot and use it both places. hear it gets way better frame-rates on the linux side of the house.

does left 4 dead work with intel graphics? - I thought valve games only worked with nvidia.

we will soon see. the new but less beefy laptop runs intel, but i have an older hp dv7 that has a relatively beefy nvidia integrated card for a lappie.

i believe you're thinking steamOS though...not steam the app

we'll run on anything, but this is the junk we support - type of thing

^-- yeah that - let me have a closer look ... might download now.

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4:39 PM

@fossfreedom Yeah, currently SteamOS only supports Nvidia, that's what the steam boxes have (prototypes are SICK)

@fossfreedom be quick. that offer expires soon. you just have to add it to your library by the deadline though...

requirements say Nvidia or ATI :(

makes me sad... i'm still trying it on the newer lappie. if it doesn't work, i'll install it on the old one just to see.

it's all opengl...so it's probably that intel video is usually pathetic as far as SPUs go.

in The Bridge, 15 hours ago, by Private Pansy

Found a link that should give you L4D2 directly: http://store.steampowered.com/checkout/addfreelicense?subid=36144

@fossfreedom ^ just add it to your library ;)

even if it no workee, it may at some later time after an update...or it may just be marketing... or... or... or.. i got it in my lib just in case.

4:48 PM

BBT

Good Night

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@fossfreedom Dude. Get it, then use it when you get a system that can run it!

@AmithKK if i make any ground on the thunderbolt thing, i'll ping you

incredible, @AmithKK failed to type "Good Night"...

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@Braiam did you ever get whatever that thing was sorted out?

@hbdgaf err... I haven't sorted out anything since the 23... was "thing" before or after? (if you mean the troubleshooter, nah)

4:54 PM

i mean the meta question

fyi - compilation direction for pygi/python-gobject is now on the main gnome wiki wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/…

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Pheew. Back on my usual Ubuntu machine. I am all but hating Apple entirely. Uggh.

@RPiAwesomeness downloading ... lets wait and see

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MUCH larger screen and running Ubuntu. :D

@hbdgaf meh, I will write what I wanted to convey after holidays

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@fossfreedom Nice, hope it works for your sake!

4:59 PM

and why I feel amused

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Okay. That GIF is getting very annoying

SPAMMING CHAT TO MOVE IT OUT!!!

LOL

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SPAM!
SPAM!

so, anyone play L4D2 yet?

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Phew. It be gone :D

5:01 PM

maybe on your screen.

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@jrg Oh. Good point..

@RPiAwesomeness you have a tiny thing...

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@Braiam GASP!! Let's keep it at a max PG here boys!

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there we go

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@jrg Oh, pheew. Thought you were re-posting the GIF... :D

5:03 PM

@RPiAwesomeness that would be trolling... and jrg wouldn't troll... I hope

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@Braiam :D Let's hope

btw, this seems interesting way to distribute docs readthedocs.org

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OMG! Why does OS X/Microsoft Office for Mac have to be such a turd-brain?!? I've clicked on the update button three times now and it keeps coming back to the same. screen.

I give up... Please just finish downloading Lubuntu already :(

@RPiAwesomeness lol, Office in general is terrible

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@jrg :) Gimme LibreOffice any day! Amen!

5:07 PM

AbiWord's not bad.

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@Fitzroy Hmm. I haven't used that, probably should...

I say this is the CPU dying but I could be wrong

can someone explain this? bash: cd: ./lighttpd/: Permission denied I don't get it..

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and probably will, IF Lubuntu decides to finish downloading (I've had the download fail three times!)

@Alvar you don't have execution access to the directory

5:09 PM

@Braiam im using cd!

@RPiAwesomeness bittorrent FTW?

and sudo cd doesn't work...

dont get this..

@Alvar let me do this more simple, what is the output of ls -l?

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@Braiam Tried that, but like NOBODY is torrenting the PowerPC Lubuntu 12.04 iso, so it is slow as a pig in treacle.

If it fails again, I'm gonna do that :D

@RPiAwesomeness torrent + webseed?

best of both without both ;)

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5:11 PM

@Braiam How would add a web-seed?

dont use torrent then, the download should work..

@Braiam I did sudo -i and now it worked...

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@Alvar Yeah, tried that. It's failed three times already...

@RPiAwesomeness strange...

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hmm... Stack Applet just said that I had -10 rep on Ask Ubuntu, but I looked and don't see anything... Maybe someone reversed a vote or something...

@RPiAwesomeness why stay with 12.04? why not 13.10?

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5:13 PM

@Alvar It's a 2005 iBook G4 w. a Power PC CPU and 512MB of RAM. I'm just being safe :)

Might consider upgrading if 12.04 runs fine.

@RPiAwesomeness being safe is sticking with mac os...

I had a power mac g3 as a server for 3 months...

until the hdd crashed..

@Alvar just gimme ls -l

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@Alvar I really don't like OS X all that much, so I want Ubuntu, but I don't want it crashing all over the place.

/var/log $ ls -1
ConsoleKit
alternatives.log
apt
auth.log
auth.log.1
auth.log.2.gz
bootstrap.log
btmp
daemon.log
daemon.log.1
daemon.log.2.gz
debug
debug.1
debug.2.gz
dmesg
dmesg.0
dmesg.1.gz
dmesg.2.gz
dmesg.3.gz
dmesg.4.gz
dpkg.log
faillog
fontconfig.log
fsck
kern.log
kern.log.1
kern.log.2.gz
lastlog
lighttpd
lpr.log
mail.err
mail.info
mail.log
mail.warn
messages
messages.1
messages.2.gz
mysql
mysql.err
mysql.log
mysql.log.1.gz
mysql.log.2.gz
mysql.log.3.gz
mysql.log.4.gz
mysql.log.5.gz
mysql.log.6.gz

im logged in on debian on my server

wanted to see the lighttpd log files

@Alvar err... where's the -l?

5:16 PM

but got permission denied as a regular user, but works fine as root

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Ah...Found the -10 rep. Deleted a question I answered on... Darn.

@Braiam scroll up?

ls -l
total 48
drwxr-xr-x 11 braiam braiam  4096 nov 19 20:15 etc
drwxr-xr-x  3 braiam braiam  4096 may 15  2013 lib
drwxr-xr-x  4 braiam braiam  4096 jul 23 03:55 usr
-rw-r--r--  1 braiam braiam 18023 dic 25 23:02 xclip
-rw-r--r--  1 braiam braiam 14301 dic 25 23:05 #xclip#

@Alvar like that ^

you mean ls -1 as in ONE the number?

no, is a L

5:18 PM

btw this is debian if that matters

mine too :P

u wrote 1

-_-

$ ls -l
total 6804
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 26 00:07 ConsoleKit
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45618 Dec 15 02:06 alternatives.log
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 25 22:24 apt
-rw-r----- 1 root adm 3250117 Dec 26 18:17 auth.log
-rw-r----- 1 root adm 1843761 Dec 22 06:25 auth.log.1
-rw-r----- 1 root adm 53380 Dec 15 06:25 auth.log.2.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 280488 Sep 25 22:19 bootstrap.log
-rw-rw---- 1 root utmp 0 Sep 25 22:11 btmp

nuked.

drwxr-x--- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Dec 22 06:25 lighttpd says that others (world) can't execute the directory

5:19 PM

wat

@Braiam what do u mean?

if you do sudo o+x /var/log/lighttpd it should work... or just add yourself to the www-data group

adding myself to the www-data group...

@Alvar basically, you don't have permissions to transverse (execute) the directory

you need to re-login to work

@Braiam that's quite strange :P

not at all

5:21 PM

I don't have those problems with apache on my laptop

great get an error on my server but not on my laptop -.-

 cd /var/log/mysql
cd:cd:13: permission denied: /var/log/mysql
➜  ~  ls -l /var/log/mysql
ls: cannot open directory /var/log/mysql: Permission denied
➜  ~  ls -l /var/log/ | grep mysql
drwxr-s---. 2 mysql       adm          4096 mar 27  2013 mysql

@Alvar apache is another beast

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@Braiam Oh good heavens yes...

@Braiam well it says I have an error in my php, but there is no actual error.

@RPiAwesomeness mm?

@Alvar TRWTF is PHP ¬_¬

wat?

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5:24 PM

@Braiam I reference to your remark about apache being another beast..

TRWTF?

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*in

> Billy: Look at this website! WTF is going on here?
Bob: Sure, that is an awful website, but TRWTF is you're using IE 7!

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected 'list' (T_LIST) (yes it gives error on correct usage of list. )

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@Braiam OMG! LOL!

XD

5:26 PM

not even line?

trwtf.urbanup.com/3363058

@Braiam yeah it says line 42, and says that list is a reserved word. But I'm using it as it should be used...

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Hmm..working on my blog. I really need to keep updating that thing...

T_T - T_list error

help me close this askubuntu.com/q/395735/10698

dupe of the big rollback question...

@fossfreedom not really... just think of it as a update for thousands of dollars in hardware

5:42 PM

@Alvar actually, his problem is more like the 12.04 image doesn't boot

@Braiam I read it like I'm trying to downgrade, what am I doing wrong?

@Alvar yeah, but he can't even downgrade without the CD booting ;)

@Braiam he can install the 12.04 kernel and then fail to boot it

@Alvar no, he's booting his 12.04 cd and fail at boot it, from what he said, he haven't taken any action yet

@Braiam oh yeah, that's true, but he's still trying to downgrade and not install 12.04. he's still doing it wrong.

6:16 PM

@jrg - i'll check on the mugs tomorrow. they didn't go clearance in today's price changes...

@hbdgaf ok, no rush

if they happen, great. if not, oh well

6:34 PM

Hmm. Can anyone explain this?

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Q: Ubuntu 13.10: Tiny desktop icons without text

I just installed a fresh Ubuntu 13.10 and observed the following behavior: My desktop icons are all very tiny and the corresponding file names are not displayed. The following example shows my desktop containing a few LibreOffice documents and a PDF: Is this behavior expected? And what can I d...

unity 13.10 icons

@Seth please, kill me with that title!! D:

So.. any idea what's causing that?

@Seth did he tried a reboot?

yeah

This menu option is grayed out on my system, and when I select "Resize Icon..." nothing happens. Since the total age of my system was only a few minutes, the "last" restart/update is not really defined (I enabled "download updates during setup"). However I have restarted a few times since then, and the software updater says "this computer is up to date". — bluenote10 9 hours ago

nothing in ~/.xsession-errors?

6:41 PM

I dunno.. Why don't you ask him :P

err:

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A: Ubuntu 12.04 lts won't boot after system crash + corrupt file system

buy windows bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

Hmm. tries to make that offend me so I can flag it as such

Nope. Not offensive. sighs

"inappropriate for respectful discourse" yep.

Oh hey, they changed the definition of offensive!

or at least "spam" because it tells you to buy something and uses

but I think the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb, is an abuse of the system

6:54 PM

@Mateo In a stretch...

@Mateo lol

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Anyone know how to add a web-seed to Transmission Torrent Client? I am trying to download the Power PC Lubuntu 12.04 iso and it is like CRAP for speed...

PowerPC? D:

"It's counter productive download and uncompress and install all at the same time" this is actually very productive, especially when installing large packages with many dependencies or doing a system update. Gentoo Linux has this by default and I have never seen it having problem with this feature. gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/… — denysonique 3 mins ago

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@Seth I know.. It was a gift/joke for christmas, iBook G4 w. 512 MB of RAM. I want to use Ubuntu, but I doubt vanilla would work on 512 MB of RAM, so I went with Lubuntu...

@RPiAwesomeness No, it wouldn't work with 512MB.. much less whatever it has for graphics ;)

@Braiam Just ignore him. He's wrong.

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7:01 PM

@Seth I figured :D Any idea on the seed?

No.. I'm in Windows atm, so can't help either :-/

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:( I pity you :)

Oh gosh. Looks half like I'm programming: :( CODE HERE... :)

@RPiAwesomeness µTorrent?

wait, transmission?

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Okay. I will be playing Samurai Swords w. my dad so I won't be watching the chat (/AFK I guess), but ping me anyways if you have an answer. @Braiam Yeah, the default Ubuntu one.

@Braiam µTorrent? NEVAR!

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7:04 PM

@Seth Ha! :D

BTW, anyone think that this :d smilie looks like someone licking their lips? Random comment before I got /AFK :D

okay. /AFK

@RPiAwesomeness You could ask a question..

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dangit

guess Torrent Properties > options > webseed @RPiAwesomeness

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@Seth You had to answer just before I left... @Braiam Nope. No option like that..

/AFK

resists urge to ping RPi one more time

7:09 PM

wait, transmission supports webseed askubuntu.com/q/313107/169736

@Seth Yo! How was Christmas?

can downvotes be issued to this question so community delete it askubuntu.com/q/77243/169736

7:28 PM

OT: askubuntu.com/q/246038/169736 he's using backtrack

7:55 PM

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