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RPi Awesomeness

00:01

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I am trying to learn GTK+3 as per this site: https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html. From the page: 1.1. Dependencies GTK+3 Python 2 (2.6 or later) or Python 3 (3.1 or later) gobject-introspection The easiest way to install PyGObject from s...

Anyone have input?

I thought about putting it on Stack Overflow, but I figured that I should keep it here because of the fact it is installation.

and configuration and all that fiddly-diddly stuff.

Andrew

@Seth IS there a way to have a line of Text "None" can hold a intergeter value like 0? Because I am having trouble with filtering cause of None, and it doesn't make any sence... In HTml, JavaStripe, ... an web lanuage

RPi Awesomeness

@Andrew This might fit better and get a better answer on Stack Overflow, that being a programming SE.

Seth

@Andrew I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, or why you're asking me, but I think C/C++ can do something like that.

However I'm not a C/C++ person.

Andrew

@Seth I know you are a programmer that why I am asking but I don't know what languages you know.

Seth

Ah OK.

What exactly are you trying to do @Andrew?

You're not mixing "None" (from Python) with "null" (from JS) are you?

hbdgaf

00:07

@RPiAwesomeness for that question to be useful, you need to get to a much more complex problem. right now it's just directory does not exist

Seth

Did you read the whole question? He created the directory and chmodded it to 777 and it still didn't work..

Or maybe I'm confused.

hbdgaf

no he didn't reread the errors

Andrew

@Seth ...And not every one in the room since most are not programmers. Can a string hold a Int value. Like None when filter will present as 0 but not visibly. Is that better?

Seth

A little better.

Andrew

@Seth I may need to put 0 in the code, and it present as None, that would make more since of code, right?

Alvar

00:10

yolo, posting a question on SO! :P

hbdgaf

are you wrapping C in something else or what. i don't get where the question you linked to is related to 0 != None

Andrew

NO! html, Javascripe

Seth

@Andrew Ahh. So you have 0 but you want to convert it to "None" when you display it?

Or vice versa?

Andrew

Yea

hbdgaf

crap, my lines crossed. rpi and andrew

Andrew

00:11

But I will refer None in the code. to make it mot understandable to noobs

Seth

I've got to go atm, but I can get back to you later @Andrew. Could you post the particular snippet of code to jsfiddle and link me? I think I understand what you are trying to do, but I might need a but more context.

hbdgaf

just add an accessor method in compiled languages or override the magic method in python.

Seth

@hbdgaf Might wanna ping the person you're talking to :P

Alvar

haters gonna hate.

Gilles

and hatters gonna hat

hbdgaf

00:13

@Andrew this and my last comment are linked to your problem phpied.com/3-ways-to-define-a-javascript-class

Andrew

@Seth I have been working on this page of wikipedia put in like 6 hours or so, It doesn't filter None. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_age

@Seth My wikipedia username is "Mathsquare"

Nathan Osman

Took that one on the way home.

Gilles

scale?

hbdgaf

it was really a very well tended bonsai. it actually looks like this:

Braiam

looks like 5mt

RPi Awesomeness

00:22

@NathanOsman Dang. You are one very tall penguin.

hbdgaf

jkjk

RPi Awesomeness

(not to mention buff)

Nathan Osman

@Gilles That's a tall tree - maybe 50-60 feet?

It's at a nearby park.

Gilles

wow, and you carried that?

Nathan Osman

No :P

Gilles

00:24

oh, you mean took the picture, not the tree

Alvar

damn I'm so new to web programming...

Nathan Osman

@Gilles Oh... sorry. I see how that could be ambiguous.

(It's okay to be ambiguous in English. It matters more when you're programming.)

RPi Awesomeness

@Nathan Lol. Nice

Phrasing.

Mateo

@jrg still testing?

jrg

@Mateo yup

[email protected]

password123

you'll need to set the IP address of the server to 23.253.41.110

since I haven't bothered with DNS yet

join us in the conference room

RPi Awesomeness

00:32

@jrg Que?

jrg

it''s called living

@RPiAwesomeness Come again?

RPi Awesomeness

@jrg Never mind. I'm being nosy.

jrg

@RPiAwesomeness considering I'm using this as a test group, by all means, be nosy.

RPi Awesomeness

@jrg The server thingy. What is it?

jrg

@RPiAwesomeness it's a XMPP/jabber server

RPi Awesomeness

00:34

Ah.

:D

jrg

basically, i've taken it upon myself to create a new communications/collaboration platform for work over the holidays

(my sanity project)

so i'm tinkering with things, and then i intend to write a nice blog post about how it all fits together

RPi Awesomeness

Cool! Hope you get it working!

Nathan Osman

Sounds interesting.

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman I was looking over the code for StackApplet and noticed that you use API calls. What/where is the API? Is it an official Stack Exchange API? And if so, where can I find it?

Nathan Osman

api.stackexchange.com

jrg

00:51

@Mateo @Gilles ok, thanks for your help guys!

I'm going to implode the server soonish

and all your messages will vanish into the cloud...

like they never existed

Nathan Osman

That kind of cloud?

jrg

sure.

Mateo

@jrg cool, the im user to user worked, but I don't think I could send on to you?

Gilles

@jrg cool, thanks

can you remind me what server software you used?

jrg

@Gilles Openfire.

igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire

Gilles

00:54

any reason for this choice?

jrg

it's free.

it's based on a standard

Gilles

so are 403984 others

jrg

and it's "easy" to use

and LDAP integration as step 2 of the initial setup

mostly the last one.

;p

Gilles

hmm, we could use that too

and I guess there's a windows client?

since it's XMPP

jrg

pidgin

but I'm using spark

from the same folks

which in turn is cross-platform

(well, java based. ;p)

Mateo

00:58

@jrg cool, If you do a write up link us, our church is thinking of setting up a messaging system

jrg

will do

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Q: Do we need a Dansguardian tag?

I was killing off the filter tag. And found this question but don't know what tag should I use. I found 44 something posts with Dansguardian keyword. So, we have people capable of answering dansguardian's questions? Any volunteer?

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JohnMerlino

01:28

arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/…

"Researchers still don't know how attackers are able to compromise those Web servers. "

Mateo

@JohnMerlino wow, that sounds like what you ran into

JohnMerlino

yep, that code is identical to what I had in my crontab

and lone and behold, I am running two ruby on rails sites on that server

jrg

@JohnMerlino ouch.

i've patched all my stuff at this point

i had it all patched within 72 hours

so about 2 hours after the metasploit code made it into the wild, I had finished the last deploy.

hbdgaf

02:14

referring to the monkies with machine guns not you ofc jrg

RPi Awesomeness

:D

Alvar

hmm wireless can't connect to internet, but can connect to the wifi, any ideas?

wired internet works though...

wireless has worked before

just unplugged the cable to check the wifi..

hbdgaf

bad dns setting, bad cable-sense routing table reset, bad cached data, etc in all probability. bounce your wireless interface, restart the networking service, and open a new browser window...

Alvar

reset the wireless setup right now

waiting for the router to reboot

YEAH! it works now!

was scared the wireless network card had died, it's an old 12" laptop from 2010 :P

only use it for coding

hbdgaf

i've suffered from my router hates me recently too. doesn't make a lot of sense, but it does happen.

Alvar

02:25

well it's a quick fix so it's not a big problem

I'm a poor founder of names so went with something classic like pretty fly for a wifi

the usual dlink name was busy :P

RPi Awesomeness

@Alvar Dude. That isn't old. My laptop is from 2007. That's old.

Alvar

@RPiAwesomeness everything from 2010 is old.

RPi Awesomeness

Ha! Mine is still older.

Alvar

a laptop from 2007 would be useless to me anyway..

I bought the fastest eee pc with a full size keyboard that I could find

hbdgaf

my hp dv7 is older...but stronger than my new asus touchscreen lappie. of course it was top O the line when i bought it. the keys are a little falling off now though

Alvar

02:28

and it's kinda awesome.

it came out before the ultrabooks did and it's very close in design.

I built my desktop this February so that's top of the line right now

but it's a gaming computer not a coding machine :P

Journeyman Geek

@Alvar: I had a router that did that, and didn't work till I did a 30 30 30.

Alvar

@JourneymanGeek 30 30 30?

hbdgaf

@Alvar on "before ultrabooks were a thing:"

Journeyman Geek

mine's upper mind-range as far as ivy bridge went.

Alvar

@hbdgaf hahahaha

jrg

02:31

8 pages and 1.5K words written about software

Journeyman Geek

@Alvar: hold the reset button for 30 seconds while the router is switched on, unplug for 30 seconds while holding the reset button, plug back in while still holding the rest button

Alvar

my desktop is high end ivy with low end graphics. but it works for games. my laptop is an Asus 1201n

jrg

written in just over 2 hours.

Journeyman Geek

it resets the nvram.

jrg

i'm braindead. :P

Journeyman Geek

02:31

@Alvar: my graphics card is a gforce 660

Alvar

@JourneymanGeek ha! I just did the wireless setup again and that worked ! :)

Journeyman Geek

OEM overclocked

hbdgaf

@jrg what?

Alvar

@JourneymanGeek Asus gtx 650 ti ;)

intel 3570k cpu, fractal design define R4 chassi...

jrg

@hbdgaf so i'm the self-appointed "We're growing insanely fast, about frackin' time we stopped using weird tools" guy.

soooo.... i wrote a report with suggestions

Alvar

02:33

why am I still up.. I should sleep.

cya.

ConfusedStack

wait. where am I and why am I wearing a hat? 1)can I post questions here or is it just general discussion 2) why are there hats on the avatars?

jrg

and I'm going to implement whatever my boss picks between now and new years, when everyone joins.

@ConfusedStack So, 1, this is general discussion. 2, you are wearing a hat because Stack Exchange is having fun! winterbash2013.stackexchange.com

hbdgaf

ah. i'm doing a wrap libnl bits to use iw like functionality from python without scraping the command-line and soft-ap like functionality that only requires monitor and injection with scapy running from userland instead of requiring a ap-mode capable radio and loads of other crap type of thing for funsies. think replace everything but the cracking from aircrack so it just works without all of that hardware inconsistency.

do you have monitor mode: YES
do you have injection: YES
Great. All the things should work on linux and BSD without problem
/story

jrg

sweet!

hbdgaf

downside: wrapping libnl. so a python ctypes auto-wrapper is the project that is a dependency of the goal that i have to write. so, it's project within a project inception

that's what all this doxygen versus gccxml (that should be named g++xml), etc, blah, python3.4 beta woes (for the built-in enum type), virtualenv doesn't work with 3.4 ootb, etc is about

sort of makes your head hurt when you realize how many projects you start just to not do things a crappy way.

ConfusedStack

02:44

@jrg ok thanks. How long has SE chat been around?

RPi Awesomeness

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Q: Errors with VPS.ME Free

I need your help. I'm a total noob about Linux, thats why I need you to help me by telling me what to do, step by step. My problem is that I have only IPv6 from vps.me hosting and I want to connect via remote desktop. I found tutorial link but I have some errors.

vnc remote ipv6

This has been down-voted because of lack of info, though I think we can help him. Anyone have any input?

He gave the error in the comments. I'm editing to include it in question.

hbdgaf

i think he needs to read the manuals: google.com/…

realvnc does support ipv6

or tunnel it over ssh, or ...

jrg

@ConfusedStack it's been... oh, years.

longer than i've been around

and I just celebrated 3 years last month

ConfusedStack

never noticed

jrg

dang

RPi Awesomeness

02:48

hrm..link isn't loading. Bother and confusicate it

hbdgaf

google results for vnc ipv6 tutorial

ConfusedStack

Question: do I provide enough information here:? askubuntu.com/questions/393737/…

jrg

i've been here since i was 14...?

Thomas W.

@RPiAwesomeness Your edit was only half OK, see the revision data to see why (it was helpful, but ultimately needed tweaking)

ConfusedStack

And how can I keep formating for terminal output when I post?

RPi Awesomeness

02:50

@ConfusedStack Well done question. At a quick glance looks like good!

Thomas W.

@ConfusedStack select it all after you paste it in, then hit the button that looks like "<$>" on the formatting bar just above the entry box

ConfusedStack

ok. thanks

hbdgaf

@ConfusedStack the question was good until the paragraph at the end that deviated from your issue and went in to unrelated bits.

ConfusedStack

I posted since I wasn't sure if it was related

*posted it also since

hbdgaf

^^ i have a sound question. also i don't have brightness working and i just got this other... silence here. the sound question was awesome. and @Takkat is our resident sound subsystem awesomesauce in human form guy

ConfusedStack

02:52

I figure it is a driver issue, so I listed the driver issues, but I can remove it if you think it doesn't help.

hbdgaf

let Takkat take a look. I'm confident it's not related, but he's the sound answerman

Lucio

for a couple of minutes I lost the control over my mail

it was crazy!

ConfusedStack

ok, I listed the extra bit as possibly unrelated, as a heading.

hbdgaf

cool. if he answers it with something reasonable that works or idenifies the issue and it's not related, i'ld be prepared to snip out the "i'm using opencl instead of cuda because support blows among other things" paragraph though.

it makes the question sound like "all this crap doesn't work, but can you fix my sound" - which isn't a good tone to have when you have a good question with a good answer.

Lucio

03:15

This is the ugliest face on AU:

hbdgaf

we're waiting...anxiously...and wondering...

Lucio

TADA

hbdgaf

that makes e almost as sad as the handle wilf.

Lucio

@hbdgaf you're paranoid!

I mean, your hat!

haha, that hat is funny

hbdgaf

i always switch to the latest earned hat for at least a couple of hours.

Lucio

03:23

@hbdgaf like the 99% of the users

hbdgaf

i don't complain about amazon and lenses or anything... it's just a <hat>got it</hat> statement

Lucio

@hbdgaf ?

hbdgaf

there are some people that cry about lack of privacy on the amazon ad optimizatiion through data harvested from lenses. i'm not one of those tinfoil people.

Lucio

oh yeah, now I get it

I wasn't expecting to change of issue so quickly

We were talking about hats dude!

hbdgaf

heh yeah. i'm a little all over the place.

Journeyman Geek

03:28

I just run KDE ;p

hbdgaf

xfce here, but kde is my number 2

Lucio

Does lfce exist or is just my fantasy?

No, it's definitively my fantasy..

Journeyman Geek

nope

you're confusing it with lmde ?

Lucio

lkde

That was!

Jeremy

@Lucio hello

Lucio

03:32

Hey, Jeremy! Who are u?

hbdgaf

lxde doesn't have not abysmal compositing. that's why i don't use it.

Lucio

I just use Unity :P

RPi Awesomeness

Grr. Dont you hate it when you get outbid on Ebay?

Journeyman Geek

@Alvar 3770, 16 gb ram, 250gb SSD, 3tb storage drive, 40gb drive for linux, and a 'dead' 250 gb drive I use for trainsient files

hm

I suspect I need to switch torrent clients

hbdgaf

@Lucio Unity is like trying to bench-press a dump truck. it just doesn't work on my hardware.

Journeyman Geek

03:33

I'm using qbitorrent but the current build seems to freeze every time I download a big torrent

Lucio

@hbdgaf for sure, neither I do on laptops

RPi Awesomeness

@JourneymanGeek That could be a problem :D

Journeyman Geek

yeah

wierd thing is I had it running reliably on a raspi for ages

hbdgaf

does it bork on allocation, slow down on writes, or what? pre-allocations is a great idea, it just leads to pain in pre-start issues.

Journeyman Geek

it just freezes

hbdgaf

03:35

if that is what it looks like, it's probably borking on preallocation. the same way vbox makes the whole computer go non-responsive when it allocates a large disk

which they should fix tw

Journeyman Geek

I don't preallocate

I don't see the point ;p

it might also be it error checking.

hbdgaf

i want a responsive vm, not a "please hold while i make the file longer and check to see if this is past the end of the disk" thing

Lucio

lolllll

@hbdgaf You will need a ~~Quad~~ Octo core my friend

hbdgaf

i need my old desktop back, but it's not going to happen.

Lucio

This is my lesson of the day:

lose control over email -> lose control over everything

Journeyman Geek

03:39

tho

I also added a proxy server

and it runs fine without the proxy

hmmm

hbdgaf

HW list:
quad core 3.2, 16,2TB internal, 2TB external, three 21 inch monitors with no mirroring, and this vid http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129141 dual booting windows 7 for gaming.

makes me significantly sad that i don't have it any more...like more than not having any of my ex's. ;P

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Seth

@Lucio I'd remove that. There was a whole meta post on smileys in posts..

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf Whoa. Nice setup :D

what's the RAM and CPU?

hbdgaf

it was...

Seth

Although you'll probably invoke wilf's wrath.

bleh.

hbdgaf

03:42

@RPiAwesomeness did you read the message?

Lucio

@hbdgaf haha

@hbdgaf no one did, but me :D

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf ermm. ner.

Seth

@Andrew Okay, I'm afraid I have no idea what you are talking about now :-/

hbdgaf

@RPiAwesomeness then read it before asking processor ram or HD configuration...

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf Which one :P embarrased I came in late.

Seth

03:44

I couldn't find a question about how to mount exfat devices... so I think I'll ask and answer one.

hbdgaf

@RPiAwesomeness the one that has a star

Seth

(in case you didn't know, Ubuntu throws a mount error)

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf The HW list? I read that. Just now seeing the 16 as RAM. facepalm

@hbdgaf really nice system

hbdgaf

it was my godbox.

Thomas W.

(in response to a starred message)

RPi Awesomeness

03:46

lol. Wish I had the cash to make that nice of a PC :)

Seth

btw, Verizon released Android 4.3 for the GSIII recently.

RPi Awesomeness

Kit Kat?

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness Jelly Bean the third.

Thomas W.

:12772615 it was returning "ERROR!"

Seth

Kit Kat is 4.4

hbdgaf

03:46

@ThomasW. it's not a dead link. check the link in chat history

Seth

I still wish they had gone with Key Lime Pie...

hbdgaf

it works

Thomas W.

16 secs ago, by Thomas W.

:12772615 it was returning "ERROR!"

it's working now

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Ah. Course. Duh,

@Seth Nice

Tasty stuff that :D

Lucio

:O For a moment Thomas broke the internet.

hbdgaf

03:47

@ThomasW. like i said. it's not a dead link.

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio : O No wayz!

Lucio

Times like this reminds me ... downforeveryoneorjustme.com

pretty descriptive domain

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio No kidding!

Lucio

nop

hbdgaf

times like this remind me of mydnsisfailingwhatdoido.com/index.html?complaininform=True

RPi Awesomeness

03:50

isup.com also works

Nope. www.isup.*me* is the short

www.isup.me

dangit

isup.me

finally. :P

Lucio

*,com <-- something should be wrong but I don't know where...

Those are the more complicated issues in a programmer life

He is so blind that will never ever see any difference between , and .

It is just impossible!

And after 1.5 hours debugging, a friends come and says "Why is there a , ?"

O_O

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio nice :D O_O

waiting on ebay item. Hoping on ebay item. For pete's sake I'm praying over an ebay item.

hbdgaf

makes me smile a little. still moving on.

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf Erm, that link is bad...

mydns failing

hbdgaf

yes. did you read it out loud?

Thomas W.

03:54

i lol'd

hbdgaf

it was a joke

@ThomasW. thanks

Lucio

@RPiAwesomeness No, this is nice :D

There is a star in C o.O

changing hat

Seth

There.

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