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kalina

20:04

I GOT AN ANSWER RIGHT \o/

victory dance

Seth

20:21

@kalina This person isn't IRL ;)

kalina

oh okk

blade19899

31

Q: What to do when I found a spyware that my spouse has installed?

Today I was trying to uninstall some application and I was very surprised to see this entry in my applications list Then I try to find what is this and I finally found it in "Program Files". After I opened the application and explored it a little bit I found this window The email address yo...

Its...HILARIOUS! specially the Answers !

kalina

lol

Rinzwind

@kalina have an upvote >:)

kalina

It's about time somebody did!

ahem, I mean, thanks!

That Brazilian Guy

20:29

How do I do keybindings?

Seth

28

Q: How can I change what keys on my keyboard do? (How can I create custom keyboard commands/shortcuts?)

I want to change the key bindings on some of the keys on my keyboard. I want some to run commands and others to activate different keys. What applications can I use to do this? Index: Xbindkeys Default keyboard and shortcut settings (from within System Settings) Xmodmap NOTE: ...

shortcut-keys keyboard keyboard-layout shortcuts

That Brazilian Guy

Thanks!

Seth

np :)

Oh hey, that question has almost 10k views :D

That will be my 3rd famous question badge \o/

Braiam

> I'm still looking for answers using xkb, dconf and any other method.

really?

Seth

Yes.

Braiam

20:37

you mean gui keybindings right?

Seth

Well... If you could do tty keybindings that would be awesome!

That Brazilian Guy

That awkward moment you (AKA me) realize you're running windows while on the AU chatroom.

blade19899

This made my eyes hurt:

0

Q: Keeping Files when converting

Lovers, I want to add one more to our millions of brothers and sisters who use Ubuntu. My mother is constantly complaining about how her laptop is horrendously slow. (It is, it shouldn't be, it is a good laptop, but windows ate it from the inside out). I am going to install Lubuntu over windows ...

lubuntu files convert online-storage

Braiam

"Lovers"?

That Brazilian Guy

@Braiam I'm inclined to believe his primary language isn't English.

Maybe not even an Western language

Or maybe he's just... a bit weird.

kalina

20:41

@Braiam I HAS ANSWERED YOU /discuss

That Brazilian Guy

@blade19899 I am tempted to edit it to one sentence: "I have a ton of files and no external storage, how do I install Ubuntu without losing them"

blade19899

@ThatBrazilianGuy, go for it. I started editing it but then my eyes started hurting

Braiam

@ThatBrazilianGuy too late!

HUMAMAMAMAMMAMA

err... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...?

blade19899

aaaaah

i commented and edited first... MWUAHAU....ha

@Braiam, fantastic job!

its actually readable now

the only (safe/reliable)could storage i can think of is mega.co.nz

And that can hold large data(50GB)

Ow yeah its also free

That Brazilian Guy

I made the question even smaller! Oh, the power of synthesis! LESS IS MORE! MWAHAHAHAHA

...now I just need someone to accept the edit. .______.

blade19899

20:52

@ThatBrazilianGuy

i will

just improve this typo "e). I wnat t"

didt wanto edit it cause then i would get credit...

aawh

Braiam

err... can really anyone explain to me why is not about "ubuntu"?

I mean, I know is "Lubuntu" but you can use ubuntu to solve the issue...

blade19899

@Braiam, already accepted and improved it

That Brazilian Guy

@Braiam Well, it is. But it is not. Clear for you now?

blade19899

... Good enough for me....

Seth

@ThatBrazilianGuy Even worse when someone asks "What is the output of [this] command" or some such question and you're like "Lets find out Ctrl+Alt+T. Ctrl+Alt+T. TERMINAL Y U APPEAR!" Oh.

kalina

20:56

@ThatBrazilianGuy I too am running Windows in the AU chat room

YOU ARE NOT ALONE

Braiam

I nevers understand what ... Y U .... means.... specially the "Y"...

kalina

@Braiam "why"

phonetically identical

Braiam

ohhhh

That Brazilian Guy

@kalina So that's why @Dash_plus_Java is giving you weird looks!

kalina

facepalm moment?

Seth

20:57

@Braiam Its... weirdo talk. Y=WHY U=YOU

kalina

I hope that was a facepalm moment

That Brazilian Guy

Braiam

O_O

kalina

@ThatBrazilianGuy I could come here on a machine using Ubuntu

I'd be 99% less active though

Seth

blade19899

20:58

ahahaha

kalina

@ThatBrazilianGuy no that's because I'm licking the screen

AND WHAT

THERE ARE TWO RAINBOW DASHES IN AU CHAT?

leaves

That Brazilian Guy

@kalina I hope it is tasty. Or at least clean by now.

kalina

tastes like cake

Braiam

O_O

Seth

silence

Braiam

21:00

..........

kalina

I am lurking on your meta, answering all of your questions

the other 'dash left

That Brazilian Guy

How do you install Windows on a cake? I know it must be possible! They did install Android on a kitkat!

kalina

I hope I didn't scare her/him/other

blade19899

Mine tastes like chicken....

kalina

that's what she said

Braiam

21:02

.......... (again)

Seth

I was about to say that.

kalina

blade19899

""Tastes like chicken" is a common declaration used when trying to describe the flavor of an unusual food."

kalina

-thread+chat

That Brazilian Guy

blade19899

21:03

i guesss she wasnt liying when she said...

Braiam

.......... (is all I can do right now...)

blade19899

you keep doing that...

yes.. ponnies... she never had.... poniesss..... yes....

That Brazilian Guy

@Seth I SAW THAT!

blade19899

crap i didnt

That Brazilian Guy

@blade19899 Now no one did as well!

kalina

21:06

WHAT PERVERTED NONSENSE HAPPENED WHILE I WAS IN ANOTHER TAB?

Seth

I was trying to make a joke off the pony png, the chicken taste and making the conversation more awkward.. And believe it or not, it worked (that last part anyway).

blade19899

@Braiam, started it..

That Brazilian Guy

@kalina translation: @Seth said ponies taste like chicken. ~~Specially the blue ones~~.

Seth

where's the wheel of blame when 'ya need it

kalina

:O

Seth

21:07

I said nothing about blue. Nothing.

kalina

I don't taste like chicken

4

wait, I'm not having this discussion

Seth

nvm.

kalina

nope

no awkward at all

nothing can be awkward when cake is involved

That Brazilian Guy

Seth

How come all the jokes I try to make around here are total fails >.<

kalina

21:08

blade19899

..or pie...

kalina

pinky pie

is the best kind of pie

Seth

BACON BACON BACON!!!

Dec 24 '12 at 2:01, 11 minutes total – 69 messages, 6 users, 21 stars

Bookmarked Dec 24 '12 at 2:13 by Nathan Osman

That Brazilian Guy

RAPADURA!

Seth

I have 7 active flags since 20 hours ago.. Where are the moderators? D:

@ThatBrazilianGuy Is that... cheese?

Braiam

21:12

if I had to say something, seems more like chocolate... or some bitter/sweet thingy...

That Brazilian Guy

PAÇOCA!

Braiam

@ThatBrazilianGuy ¬_¬

blade19899

CHICKEN:

Braiam

I love answering "off-topic" questions....

dunno why....

Seth

It gets you lots of repz lol.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

21:15

1

Q: Bug, utf8 char trimmed away from user profile webpage url

Discovered that utf8 chars are trimmed away from users StackExchange profiles webpage url. Eg for my case, the æ from my last name is getting trimmed, rendering the google+ url unusable (404). I assume utf8 to be accepted as of Name allow utf8, and when putting utf8 into the url field is the feed...

bug

Braiam

@blade19899 WHY THE HECK THAT IMAGE WEIGHTS 10 MB!!

That Brazilian Guy

CUSCUZ!!!

blade19899

Cause of the clazzing

kalina

@Seth don't blame the moderators, blame your 20k+ users

Braiam

@ThatBrazilianGuy coconuts and condensed milk

kalina

21:16

it's their fault, and then it's the moderator's fault

Seth

Okay, tell you what, I'll be back in, say 5/10 minutes.

That Brazilian Guy

@Braiam FF won't display it. Just refuses.

@Braiam Coconuts just as the topping.

It is mostly made of tapioca.

Tapioca pudding

Seth

@kalina We have 9 moderators and over 20 10k users and my flags take FOREVER.

kalina

@Braiam you misread that meta question

That Brazilian Guy

TAPIOCA PANCAKES

kalina

21:17

@Seth 20k users, not 10k

10k users don't get delete votes

Seth

They can still handle flags:

askubuntu.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools

kalina

"handling flags" doesn't do what you think it does

Seth

Perhaps.

kalina

they're not able to directly "approve" a flag, only invalidate them

whilst 20k users can "approve" a flag by voting to delete the content that is flagged

That Brazilian Guy

BISCOITO GLOBO

Wait, why am I spamming brazilian food again?

kalina

21:19

because you're that Brazilian Guy

Braiam

@kalina wait a darn moment...

Seth

@kalina OK then. 10k users do get some delete privileges for questions.

kalina

@Braiam waits

Seth

And can someone unstar my last message?

kalina

@Seth no, I can star it for you though

Seth

21:20

I would prefer it wasn't starred.

Thank you.

That Brazilian Guy

@Seth Why?

Braiam

> Users with this reputation level can delete closed questions with a score of -3 or lower.

blade19899

Am waiting for 0 A.D. Alpha 15

kalina

@Seth nope, 10k users don't get deletion privs afaik

Seth

@ThatBrazilianGuy I don't want to offend anyone.

kalina

21:21

@Braiam -3? Requires voters

Seth

And starring it makes it 10x more likely to offend someone.

kalina

I can delete stuff that's got a positive score on Arqade

:p~

That Brazilian Guy

@Seth If someone feels offended by that, they don't deserve the powers they have. (And if they feel 10x more offended by a yellow star, they are childish.)

kalina

@ThatBrazilianGuy this very much

Seth

@ThatBrazilianGuy Perhaps, but that's not my problem.

kalina

21:21

I don't want to get into moderator bashing against mods I don't know in a channel for a site I'm not all that active on

Seth

@kalina You're a 20k user. It's either: Closed or score of -3.

kalina

but the whole "I'm a volunteer" thing doesn't fly

Seth

Our mods are great, they just aren't around much right now apparently

kalina

if you don't have time to do it, you should stand down and let somebody who does have time do it, do it

do it, do it, do it, do it

that sentence doesn't read right

Seth

@ThatBrazilianGuy The star just makes the message more obvious.

That Brazilian Guy

21:23

@blade19899 It is nice, me and coworkers tried it today. Reminds me of old warcraft 2 times (I never played civilization)

kalina

@ThatBrazilianGuy it's a black star to everybody else

Braiam

lol, someone downvotes the "off-topic" answer... (I bet there will be a NAA flag)

kalina

@Seth nope, can delete vote positively voted stuff as well

via the queues

@Braiam which off topic answer?

Seth

@kalina Odd.

Braiam

0

Q: How do I install Ubuntu without losing personal data?

I have a Windows computer with a lot of personal data (about 50 GB or more). I want to install Lubuntu, but I don't want to lose all my files when installing. I don't want to dual boot, either. I don't have physical external storage available (flash drives, discs, etc). I do have 15 GB on Googl...

installation backup

kalina

21:24

@Seth I believe stuff with a certain threshold of positive votes requires far more votes to delete it though

Braiam

I mean answer to "off-topic" questions...

That Brazilian Guy

@kalina Ooops, guess I just denunced myself.

Seth

@kalina Yes it does. Just like close votes.

That Brazilian Guy

Funny, someone downvoted me and @Braiam: askubuntu.com/questions/383922/…

kalina

@Braiam fixed

Braiam

21:26

@kalina where is that G+ link?

kalina

@Braiam bring up his profile, look under "website"

he has a link to his G+ profile which has had the utf chars stripped out of it

Braiam

ohh.... I see

is that character even allowed in URLs?

kalina

well I would suspect it is according to the rfc since it exists in G+'s url

Braiam

seems that yes...

Seth

Doubt it. It's unicode good grief.

Braiam

21:28

https://plus.google.com/+AndersFredrikUlvigKi%C3%A6r/posts

I think he should put it like that...

you know encoded.

kalina

plus.google.com/+AndersFredrikUlvigKi%C3%A6r/posts

that encoding happens in chat

not in the actual url

I think?

pastes to notepad

Braiam

nope, I copied from FF address bar

firefox just "interprets" the char

kalina

oh, I was about to say maybe it's my browser

but I don't use FF

Braiam

just saying... if you use IE...

kalina

google chrome has the correct characters in it

eww

only hospitals and governments use IE

2

blade19899

21:31

nope they dont. they have it installed, but dont really use.

Braiam

(fears for his, already in bad state, goverment and hospitals)

kalina

1

Q: UTF-8 characters in URLs

I just stumbled upon the following article: http://www.josscrowcroft.com/2011/code/utf-8-multibyte-characters-in-url-parameters-%E2%9C%93/ The article talks about using UTF-8 characters in URL's. I would like to know whether it is safe to use it. I have basically the same setup (browser + OS)...

html url utf-8

blade19899

Working in a hospital hereeeee

kalina

oh and korea

@blade19899 UK government and NHS use IE6

because... lol UK

Braiam

probably SE doesn't accept utf-8....

blade19899

21:32

IE6?!??!?!?!

Alright then. America, nuk them!

kalina

hey, I live here, I don't want to be nuked

besides, at least the UK government doesn't run out of money, throw a tantrum over budgeting, and shut down half of the government

blade19899

Ow. Let @kalina life

Lets not talk politics...

kalina

:D

polyticks

blade19899

Poly moly crickets...

kalina

poly = many, ticks = blood sucking leaches

Seth

21:35

in Let's get philosophical on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Oct 1 at 4:50, by Reno

American, did you try turning your government on and off again

blade19899

mwuahahaha funny @Seth

Braiam

Seth

@Braiam lol

Braiam

@kalina there, polyticks ^

blade19899

lol on-topic

0

Q: Ubuntu telling me I need more Space

Ok, I downloaded Ubuntu 13.10, for a eMachines G640 with 64-bit AMD-processor, making it dual-boot with Windows 7 with a USB not CD. Didn't had problem installing it, booted nicely into Ubuntu but when I transferred some files from my External-HDD, to my PC, I got the error message saying there ...

dual-boot 13.10 windows-7 64-bit hard-drive

Seth

22:00

What does ls > /dev/null in a script do?

blade19899

null is if i remember correctly, put it in a carbage file.

Braiam

@Seth redirects the output to null...

blade19899

useless information that you want to destroy after output

or something like that

Yeah @Braiam, that was it.

Mateo

@Seth so that it can do something else afterwards?

blade19899

Really need to go sleep

Seth

22:02

Yeah, I understand it's directing to /null, but what is it directing to /null?

Mateo

the output of ls?

Braiam

type ls...

Seth

Well that's what I would think.. but it doesn't make sense in the middle of a script.

Braiam

that is what is going to null... just the text that ls prints

show meh deh codez!

Mateo

yeah what is before and after

Seth

22:05

Here is the scrap:

# Begin main updater function code
	if ! [ -z "$2" ] && [ "$2" != "--force" ] && [ "$2" == "--force" ]; then
		# TODO
		ls > /dev/null # Delete this

So I understand it's checking the second argument for --force, but why the ls redirect?

Braiam

err... in that case it just doing ls to some directory...

blade19899

"An infinite data source and data sink. Data written to /dev/null shall be discarded. Reads from /dev/null shall always return end-of-file (EOF)."

Seth

As in?

Braiam

I don't know what he expects ls to do....

Seth

Okay, I'll ask him later.

Mateo

22:06

hm, it isn't even executing, it is a note

Seth

@Mateo Yeah, wasn't meant to execute yet ;)

hbdgaf

> /dev/null won't eat error messages. in that context it doesn't make sense, but you could use it instead of if -e or if -d to check existence. that would explain delete this.

Seth

@hbdgaf Ah. That makes some sense.

hbdgaf

like:
ls /opt/somethingthatshouldexistalready and I don't want a conditional check, but I should get an error message while I sort out why it's not created yet

Seth

Okay. That helps :)

Opinion based: askubuntu.com/questions/383951/…

Braiam

22:11

isn't there a M-question about "shopping recomendations"?

Mateo

@hbdgaf oh cool, delete the output but keep the error message

hbdgaf

@Mateo exactly so

@Braiam yes, opinion based. and there probably is a shopping recommendation section in the faq and possibly a master question. i haven't rerun my find master questions script against recent dumps, but it's still on au meta and stackapps i think

Seth

hbdgaf

@Seth to clarify, the redirector doesn't redirect error without 2>&1 or something. devnull would happily eat it if it were sent there.

Braiam

seem like we need to remember the folks... lately I've seen couple of them

Seth

22:14

@hbdgaf Ah, that makes a little more sense. Thank you :)

Braiam

in Unix and Linux, Sep 27 at 22:16, by Gilles

Why on earth do people redirect error messages to /dev/null when they're investigating what's going wrong?

^ good boys don't do that!

hbdgaf

I wonder if setting $DEBUG to 2>&1 > for True and > for false would work. It would look a little silly, but it would be a neat script addition for increasing o.O

TheX

22:28

And so it begins...

hbdgaf

@TheX - ?

TheX

I donnu... you tell me...

Seth

22:57

The return of TheX begins I presume.

Nathan Osman

23:14

iTunes is slow and bloated.

Braiam

you telling me??

hbdgaf

using itunes is just another way to say i won't fix gtkpod myself

Nathan Osman

No, this is on Windows.

hbdgaf

fair enough.

Nathan Osman

I have Windows on a netbook with iTunes and Windows on my desktop without iTunes.

I don't want to "poison" my main desktop with iTunes, so I just use it on the netbook.

3

But as you can imagine, it's slow. Deathly slow.

Braiam

23:34

iTunes get bloated with the "music database" couple megs..

hbdgaf

itunes gets bloated with all the settings and files from the iphone. just sync your device once. all your app data backup goes in too inside a one-time key file on your desktop everytime you sync it after that. you sync way more than your audio db

but that's not where the bloat happens.

Mateo

23:53

ITunes on windows?! I can't count how many problems that has caused

Too much messing around with kernel drivers for a music software...

hbdgaf

must do encryption in kernelspace so you can't middle for music ripping without a kernel driver of your own or kernel level debugging to build the tool... at least that's my theory.

itunes is just plain abysmal

Mateo

Broke my friends CD drive once, it worked once iTunes was un-installed (completely, it leaves behind stuff...)

hbdgaf

reminds me of the sony/bmg rootkit fail.

BACON BACON BACON!!!

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