Ask Ubuntu General Room

Zanna

6:00 PM

@IanC it's been a glorious day in Londres

Android Dev

Now here's an interesting Q:

1

Q: LibreOffice after update from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, Blacked Toolbar Icon Background

With LibreOffice 5.2.0.4 after update from Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, Blacked Toolbar Icon Background When Using Breeze Theme

IanC

goood :D

I just got back from work, was called names by a dutch guy, not my fault but I did almost hit his face with a monkey fist :p

Anwar

@Zanna thanks ...

I was actually trying to know that policyKit thing and answer both of your and E.K's question

IanC

apart from that, the sun is out, and tomorrow is my day off :)

edwinksl

that insult at the end askubuntu.com/questions/822210/administrative-vs-user-password

Anwar

6:05 PM

meh! that merging brought me a Necromancer badge!

Android Dev

@jokerdino - Another possible nuke? askubuntu.com/questions/822210/administrative-vs-user-password

Oh, wait, now it says removed. Never mind :)

jokerdino

yeah, someone woke up the green goblin already.

Anwar

Oli is around here...

time to hide?...

Seth

Oli!

Android Dev

What is it with bad questions today???

0

Q: how to get the name of avahi service published

how to get the name of avahi service published in my C application. i have multiple devices and avahi assings different names automatically. how will i get the device avahi name or identify my device avahi name. ?

services avahi

Anwar

6:07 PM

bbl. hope. see you tomorrow.. night all :)

jokerdino

@Anwar nighters

@AndroidDev what do you mean today?

Kaz Wolfe

YAY Tomas is no longer really paranoid!

Well, as much, i should say.

edwinksl

good, a middle ground between kadin and tomas would be nice

Kaz Wolfe

funny how knowledge makes you less scared

1

Q: ActiveX for Ubuntu

I need to access my DVR over Internet using Firefox using www.instaon.com, but when I try to login it asks for ActiveX plug-in. Is there an alternative of ActiveX for Ubuntu?

active-x

Er... what would be a good way of dealing with this..?

edwinksl

activex in 2016?

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:24 PM

^

Also bad news

School admins blocked SE on their network

So no chat while at school

Kaz Wolfe

gg no re

i mean i could tell you a way around it but i'm lazy and your admins are idiots.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Let's see how long it takes for them to block AU :<

Kaz Wolfe

good practice lol

AU is SE.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Nah

edwinksl

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice you said SE?

Kaz Wolfe

6:26 PM

Yes... it is.

David Cole - Grammar Police

They blocked stackexchange.com

Not AskUbuntu.com

Kaz Wolfe

same servers.

this is your admins being dumb. They should block resolutions of hostnames, not hostnames themselves

David Cole - Grammar Police

Yea I know

but they don't

Kaz Wolfe

Can I get their email? I'd like to educate them on proper practices

David Cole - Grammar Police

Nah

Kaz Wolfe

6:28 PM

We can't have uneducated admins out there.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Also VPN isnt an option for me

ChromeOS, and they blocked VPN Sites

Kaz Wolfe

I wasn't going to suggest that.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Oh

hm

brb getting food

Kaz Wolfe

First off, why ChromeOS, second, why block SE, third, get your own bloody computer!

edwinksl

is it a school-issued chromebook?

Kaz Wolfe

6:30 PM

Fourth, ChromeOS has a lot of really cool tricks/glitches.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe You mean lack thereof?

@edwinksl My thoughts exactly.

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev i mean both.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe No, I was replying to one of your earlier comments.

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev And I replied to the comment that replied to one of my previous comments

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Wait, what?

Kaz Wolfe

6:35 PM

better?

Android Dev

@KazWolfe - I'm asking if you meant lack thereof here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32167682#32167682

Kaz Wolfe

I know.

I mean, it can make you both more and less scared.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe But in this specific the lack of knowledge would make you less scared

RPi Awesomeness

My two cents, Chromebooks suck

4

Android Dev

@RPiAwesomeness Crouton to the rescue!

Kaz Wolfe

6:37 PM

@AndroidDev ssssh don't reveal secrets

RPi Awesomeness

Seriously. Just buy a super low-end device and slap Lubuntu/Xubuntu on it. Same experience in terms of battery life, but with way better value

David Cole - Grammar Police

@KazWolfe This computer was free so :) and I mean either way it isnt a chromebook. They bought dells, then wiped the OS and installed chrome

RPi Awesomeness

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice o_O

Kaz Wolfe

ChromeOS has a lot of good school management tools.

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice That's not even possible!!!

RPi Awesomeness

6:38 PM

I didn't know you could install ChromeOS on a non-Chromebook device

David Cole - Grammar Police

YEp

Android Dev

@RPiAwesomeness HUH???

David Cole - Grammar Police

U can make chrome sticks from Chrome OS

Android Dev

How did they do that??

Kaz Wolfe

@RPiAwesomeness chromium.org/chromium-os

RPi Awesomeness

6:38 PM

@KazWolfe True

@AndroidDev Oh, believe me, if I could I would. Stupid work decided everyone has to use Chromebooks. And they are absolute crap.

edwinksl

gotta love the one-size-fits-all policy

Android Dev

Wait, I found how they did it: neverware.com/#introtext-3

Zanna

@Anwar that question still needs a good answer as far as I'm concerned.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe ^^^

Kaz Wolfe

i still think chromium is better than that

Android Dev

6:40 PM

@RPiAwesomeness And they won't let you put crouton on it?

@RPiAwesomeness - The Chrombook Pixel has an i5 and 8GB of RAM though...

That's pretty powerful...

David Cole - Grammar Police

Kaz

RPi Awesomeness

@AndroidDev Yup, because it's a shared machine >:(

David Cole - Grammar Police

What would you recommend for getting past this stuff? Im new to chromeOS @KazWolfe

Android Dev

@RPiAwesomeness Whhhaaaaaaaaaa?

Kaz Wolfe

I would recommend not doing anything because it's your school's computer.

And it's their internet.

RPi Awesomeness

6:42 PM

@AndroidDev Yup :P

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Tether to your phone.

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev will you stahp with the secrets?!

David Cole - Grammar Police

Mmmm

Android Dev

@RPiAwesomeness Wow. Just wow.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Might work

Kaz Wolfe

6:42 PM

they obviously have a reason to keep you where they want you.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Not sure if I can safely DC from the schools network

Kaz Wolfe

And, if this is the case, i'd recommend not trying to get around it.

Just... talk to your admins and ask them why. Explain why it's useful.

I've gotten many sites unblocked that way.

David Cole - Grammar Police

XD

hahahah

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Hadn't though of that.

Kaz Wolfe

I am not joking.

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:43 PM

My admins are aids

Kaz Wolfe

still better to ask for permission than beg for forgiveness

David Cole - Grammar Police

If I'm lucky they won't block AskUbuntu

IF

Android Dev

@KazWolfe True...

Kaz Wolfe

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice I've been suspended in high school a few times for bypassing network blocks/restrictions.

They finally got the message and just gave me admin power though.

David Cole - Grammar Police

RLY

WUT

Android Dev

6:45 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice I think HTTPS encrypts the URL... so maybe only use askubuntu.com ?

David Cole - Grammar Police

nah

Its got blockas

ive tried

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev this works only for idiot firewalls

David Cole - Grammar Police

^

Kaz Wolfe

Unless they've MITM'd the connetion.

Which i don't doubt, honestly.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe That sounds like what his admins are :)

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:46 PM

Kaz it also might not be possible for them to setup exceptions, considering this is a server system IDK what kind of control they have

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice - Bottom line, just pull it up on only your phone, and you'll be fine.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Maybe not

They imbedded lightspeed into chrome via an extension

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice They can't MITM your 4G connection.

David Cole - Grammar Police

They can

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice They own your phone?

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:47 PM

No however this computer is setup under the school

so no matter the wifi

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice - I'm not talking about tethering. Just pulling it up on your phone.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Oh

XDDDDDDD

Also it seems like they didn't account for other wifi networks

Kaz Wolfe

Ive worked in school IT.

They usually have that control, but they don't use it.

David Cole - Grammar Police

M

Interesting

WAIT

Kaz Wolfe

But like I said... THEY HAVE A REASON

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:49 PM

Im an awkward teenager! I can't TALK to someone

Email time

Kaz Wolfe

You're a teen.

You don't have rights.

David Cole - Grammar Police

XD

Kaz Wolfe

They can do this and you have no recourse. Just accept it or bring your own computer

David Cole - Grammar Police

Cant really bring my own

Kaz Wolfe

wait, lightspeed? yeah everything's MITM'd lol

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:50 PM

Yep :(

Kaz Wolfe

rip your accounts

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Then just don't mess with it.

@KazWolfe HTTPS?

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev Used lightspeed. Yep.

Any traffic thru chrome is captured

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Ummmm...

That's just wrong.

Kaz Wolfe

Lightspeed in this case is browser-side.

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:51 PM

^

Kaz Wolfe

Meaning they don't even need to cert.

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Yeah, okay, then don't mess with it :)

David Cole - Grammar Police

Impossible to get past pretty much

My school is actually stupid though

They didnt disable hard wiping the laptop

So last year

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice O_O

David Cole - Grammar Police

We all installed Cruton

:>

Android Dev

6:53 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice And then...

Kaz Wolfe

sigh

David Cole - Grammar Police

SOMEHOW they didn't realize

Kaz Wolfe

tl;dr stop messing with school infra

David Cole - Grammar Police

We got off clean, new laptops this year, so no traces

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice I see.

Kaz Wolfe

6:54 PM

if you need SE, ask admins to unblock it because it's useful

David Cole - Grammar Police

Ill email them

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Especially if he's doing a programming course...

Stack Overflow...

David Cole - Grammar Police

YO

THATS TRUE

Kaz Wolfe

SO is not under SE

David Cole - Grammar Police

My programming teacher could probably convince the admins to unblock it

Kaz Wolfe

6:55 PM

well not under the subdomain

David Cole - Grammar Police

He's like the dad I wished I had

Kaz Wolfe

protip: teachers get no blocks

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice - Doing any crypto in your programming? Crypto SE is a subdomain: crypto.stackexchange.com

Kaz Wolfe

Programmers

Zanna

Hehe I know nothing without the internet, and SE above all

David Cole - Grammar Police

6:56 PM

Nah, we be doing Java

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice - Code review? codereview.stackexchange.com

David Cole - Grammar Police

Last year shudders we used... VB

Zanna

:(

Kaz Wolfe

they're going to selectively whitelist sites

David Cole - Grammar Police

^

Maybe not actually

They're kinda lazy

Kaz Wolfe

6:57 PM

no, they will.

unless you have a reason to convince them to unblock all of SE

Zacharee1

I'm definitely not here

Android Dev

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice - Well, all I can say is, if they have lightspeed installed, don't touch anything.

@Zacharee1 lol

Kaz Wolfe

yeah. just don't mess with anything

Zacharee1

Wait, I have 10.4k chat rep?

Someone look

I'm on mobile

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 Yep

Zacharee1

6:59 PM

Cooool

I can accept flags against @edwinksl now >:}

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 Because rep > 10k?

Kaz Wolfe

Chat Rep is total across the entire network

Zacharee1

Yurp

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 i am totes in awe of your powers

Zacharee1

And now I can do some special chat stuff

Transcript for