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Pretty much same - I didn't get into relationship until college. High school was mostly going to classes, arguing with parents, and in the final year - failing whole bunch of classes. Also testing, testing, testing

Kaz Wolfe

i was the first student to use digital notes in the school.

Zacharee1

12:14 AM

@ByteCommander REEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEe

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 wut lmao

Kaz Wolfe

so i was under very careful supervision because it was their little pet experiement (which sorta half-succeeded, even though i didn't care about some of the classes).

Byte Commander

I know the phrase "teacher's pet", but that's probably something different...

Kaz Wolfe

tl;dr: old high school now has about 33% adoption of digital notes after I left.

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 eeeeeeeeeeeer?

Zacharee1

12:16 AM

you guys have never had guinea pigs huh?

Byte Commander

nope

Kaz Wolfe

chickens and real pigs...

Zacharee1

well they pretty much do that when you get near

Byte Commander

o.O

Kaz Wolfe

oh, and the best part about being the digital-note guinea pig. I HAD TO USE ONENOTE AND WINDOWS

Byte Commander

12:17 AM

Yikes

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander it's usually out of excitement, like "OH HEY SOCIAL THING I CAN BE WITH"

@KazWolfe ACKKCKCKCKCKKCKCK

Byte Commander

Btw, now that I'm out of high school, my old one starts using tablets in class.

Kaz Wolfe

tl;dr kaz's high school was a traumatic experience. Not to mention the school itself... Drug trades, prostitution (really), teen pregancies, all in a catholic school.

Which tends to turn you into an athiest (or a Satanist if you're lucky) real fast.

Byte Commander

those are the worst...

(catholics)

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe Sometimes an extreme set of rules will push people to the other extreme

Byte Commander

12:19 AM

I would not let my kids go there if I had any...

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander LOL

Kaz Wolfe

guinea pigs are cute btw

Zacharee1

careful, might get flagged @ByteCommander

edwinksl

@KazWolfe well, sorry to hear that

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe ikr

Byte Commander

12:19 AM

@Zacharee1 what?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander hating on Catholics :p

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl eh, it was good development

Byte Commander

Not hating.

Zacharee1

I quote: those are the worst...

Kaz Wolfe

i think he was talking about the school's principles

Byte Commander

12:20 AM

Just saying that catholic authorities/institutions and kids don't go together well...

Zacharee1

did you mean the schools?

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander YA THINK?!

also...

Guinea pig NOISES!

►

Zacharee1

it wasn't clear, like @edwinksl's thing

Kaz Wolfe

in case you were wondering

Zacharee1

lel

Byte Commander

12:21 AM

Only think about all those child abuses by catholic priests etc that recently came out - just because they are not permitted to fsck women.

Kaz Wolfe

and you know what the worst part of this school is?

like the absolute worst...

All Windows Server. Every last machine.

Zacharee1

lol

Byte Commander

Win SERVER? o.O

edwinksl

@ByteCommander i would be more careful because there are people who are easily offended

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE CLAIM THAT YOU CONSIDER SOME PEOPLE EASILY OFFENDED

CHECK YOUR THICK-SKIN PRIVILEGE!

Byte Commander

12:23 AM

@edwinksl My statement is correct and based on facts. If anybody is offended by facts, that's their problem.

edwinksl

@KazWolfe uh ok

Kaz Wolfe

also...

4

i am non-stop memes :D

Byte Commander

And even if somebody flagged it - so what?

Does one (10k+ users) see chat flags on their own posts btw?

Kaz Wolfe

no.

but i will counterflag

edwinksl

counterflag?

Byte Commander

12:25 AM

invalidate flag

edwinksl

i see, sorry, < 10k noob here

Kaz Wolfe

GET REP

Byte Commander

You have 4747 chat rep points, almost half the way to 10k already

Kaz Wolfe

yeah it's network rep, not site

edwinksl

@ByteCommander nah, it's ok, i am fine where i am

Kaz Wolfe

12:27 AM

so... we should do a chat-wide event.

i think that would be fun

Byte Commander

Those who are satisfied with where they are will not make any progress.

IanC

hello

Byte Commander

what kind of event?

and hi

Kaz Wolfe

@IanC /o/

edwinksl

@ByteCommander eh.

Kaz Wolfe

12:28 AM

@ByteCommander i dunno. we can do classic tabletop rpg, a race to install ubuntu, all sorts of tihngs

Byte Commander

Rinzy would win that race with his ultra-high-end-military-grade-whatever SSDs

We could also play cards against humanity.

Serg

@IanC hi there

IanC

what you guys up to? :)

Kaz Wolfe

custom decks or no?

Byte Commander

if you want to make the effort of designing custom ones?

Kaz Wolfe

12:32 AM

okay good.

because whenever i play custom decks, i always end up revealing a lot of negative info

Byte Commander

I'd just use whatever pretendyoure.xyz/zy offers built in

Serg

@IanC the other guys are playing cards against humanity. I'm eating spagetti and watching youtube

Byte Commander

or any other service that provides the game for free

Kaz Wolfe

i'll take it!

Byte Commander

we are not playing yet, just talking

Kaz Wolfe

12:34 AM

never actually done CAH though

Byte Commander

it needs at least 3 players, ideally around 5 I'd say

Kaz Wolfe

or not vanilla

Byte Commander

If you find 2 or so more, we can have a private game.

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg?

Byte Commander

Otherwise joining a public game also works, but is less fun as there are strange strangers.

Serg

12:36 AM

@KazWolfe wut ?

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1

Kaz Wolfe

CAH

Byte Commander

brb

ok

Serg

not me , at least not right now

IanC

@Serg have you been reading that python book?

edwinksl

12:40 AM

@IanC what up

Kaz Wolfe

either way... pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=77

join in whenever, if that link works, and we'll get started when everyone who is interested is in

PW: WindowsSucks

Byte Commander

xD

IanC

@edwinksl hey man! how you're doing?

edwinksl

how are you enjoying post-graduation days

Serg

@IanC not in the last few days :p lazy

IanC

12:46 AM

@edwinksl it's been the same, but without the tests, homework, etc stress :p

I've been using the extra time to study some things

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander lol yeah right

remember how I said STRESS?

Well that STRESS comes from somewhere

Kaz Wolfe

dont go to school then

Byte Commander

phhh...

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe if only

I REALLY wish they'd let us just pursue what we want

instead of forcing us to do everything

Serg

Educational system , especially in middle and high school , could take some freakin' revamping

Byte Commander

12:49 AM

I spent the second half of my high school life on power save mode.

Life is so much easier if you ignore homework tasks...

Zacharee1

@Serg My health teacher last year said high school was literally killing us

and I think he's right

@ByteCommander then I don't graduate. This is a pretty intensive school

Byte Commander

I wonder how your high schools compare to ours here in Germany.

Were you US or UK again?

Zacharee1

US

private school though

Quaker

Serg

I kind of like college , but I don't like the complexity of how it's set up. Also, GPA is forever and ever :(

Byte Commander

I just remember our English teacher in grade 8 or 9 or so...

Seth

12:56 AM

@Zacharee1 move to WA.

Zacharee1

@Seth you're a funny one

I hate boarding school and I live 50 mins away (except when I drive, then it's like 1:20)

Kaz Wolfe

windows me is awesome

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe because it's you?

Kaz Wolfe

because i can blame it for all the problems

Zacharee1

lol

Seth

12:57 AM

@Zacharee1 The state will pay for 2 years of community college from age 16. If you get your parents to declare you homeschooled you can go to the CC, take any 15 credits you want (per quarter), HS can't say anything.

Zacharee1

@Seth but I'm not homeschooled??

Seth

@Zacharee1 it's just a piece of paper ;)

Serg

Dammit, I can't get a hold of anyone . . .and it's 7 pm already. What do I just go show up to work tomorrow ?

Zacharee1

@Seth so I can commit fraud?

@Serg what's happening?

Nathan Osman

What's this?

Seth

12:59 AM

lol - you're over complicating things ;)

Byte Commander

She was totally incompetent, unable to play any instrument properly and singing like a frog (although being a music teacher), slightly obese and she had a slight old-lady mustache which used to be white from chalk dust every now and then...

Zacharee1

@Seth hello, have we met?

Seth

touché.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander sounds like a lovely lady

Byte Commander

indeed

Luckily we could get rid of her after a year

Serg

1:00 AM

@Zacharee1 So I was waiting for supervisor to send my schedule. They haven't. My friend checked the internal website - I'm on the schedule , but the problem is I don't know if it's official or not

Zacharee1

heh

how far is the drive to work

Serg

Also, I signed up for internship . They're supposed to send me interview invitation, but they haven't yet

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe take that down. It's offensive

@Serg They're probably all high :p

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl askubuntu.com/questions/821341/… <--- is this what you're after?

Serg

Now i don't know what to do, do I wake up at 5 AM tomorrow and go ?

Zacharee1

1:03 AM

@Serg how far is the drive?

edwinksl

@Serg better to show up than not imo

Serg

@Zacharee1 about 15 minutes to drive to light rail station, 35 - 40 minutes on light rail, and then 10 minutes walking through campus

Zacharee1

o-O

OK

Serg

And it's been so 7 years already

Zacharee1

I suggest you take a picture or screenshot, with the time in it, of your lack of schedule and then don't come in

if they ask, you have proof of ignorance

Nathan Osman

1:04 AM

^--- this

Serg

screenshot taken :D

this coffee tastes weird . . . i hope i didn't put salt there

nope . . . doesn't seem like

Zacharee1

@Serg maybe it's poison dun dun DUNNNN

Serg

Nuuuuu, i'm two young two tie

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hello Everybody! :)

My first use of Python charm is not going to well. :(

Still Learning anyway. :)

Serg

1:23 AM

Python has charms ?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Pycharm

Serg

oh, the IDE

I don't use none of that

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Yes I know notepad++ is good to.

text editors vs IDEs?

I know there is a difference between the two items.

Seth

I tend to use text editors. Atom or vim.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I am only using an IDE to be cool and look like a pro. LOL! :D no seriously.

Serg

1:31 AM

vim for me so far. Installed Atom in VM once but never used it. VM has been deleted since then too

@HenryWHHackv2.0 being a pro is really about flexibility. If your company uses IDE, you adapt to that. If they use text editor, you adapt to text editors

chaskes

Some distros have surprisingly bad options. For example, I've been warned to avoid the IDEs of Arch.

Serg

IDE on Arch ? that's a new one. I thought all Arch users live day to day in command-line only

chaskes

That's why it's surprising. But remember Beware the Ides of March? (Yes, I'll be here all week.)

Hmm, I meant to type 'beware' in the original joke.

Severus Tux

Hi all :)

@ByteCommander I got another way (yours is better) :

echo $mac | sed 's/:/:0x/g' | gawk -F":" '{printf "10.%d.%d.%d/8" , strtonum($4),strtonum($5),strtonum($6)}'

@Serg you there ?

Serg

@SeverusTux yes, i am here. What are you trying to do ?

Severus Tux

1:39 AM

I am curious how you would solve this one :

Variable $iface_mac contains mac address, I need to generate an IP as 10.Last 3 portions of mac in Dec
if $iface_mac="ab:cd:ef:ff:ff:ff", IP should be 10.255.255.255
ANy one liner ?

Zacharee1

I FORGET HOW TO FACTOR QUADRATICS

HELP

Adds up to middle, multiplies to third

OK

Serg

@SeverusTux give me 5 minutes , i'll figure something out

Severus Tux

Byte's solution was : python3 -c "print('10.%d.%d.%d'%tuple(int(x,16)for x in\"$iface_mac\".split(':')[3:]))"

:) okay

Serg

1:52 AM

@SeverusTux So, I got this:

python -c 'import sys; print "10." + ".".join([ str(int(i,16))  for n,i in enumerate(sys.argv[1].split(":")) if n > 2  ])' $iface_mac

10.61.83.253

DIR:/xieerqi|19:52|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ python -c 'import sys; print "10." + ".".join([ str(int(i,16))  for n,i in enumerate(sys.argv[1].split(":")) if n > 2 >
10.61.83.253

DIR:/xieerqi|19:52|skolodya@ubuntu:
$ echo $iface_mac
d0:53:49:3d:53:fd

I'll see if I can make it shorter

Severus Tux

Thanks :) Its nice

Serg

@SeverusTux slightly shorter

$ python -c 'import sys; print "10." + ".".join([str(int(i,16)) for i in sys.argv[1].split(":")[-3:]])' $iface_mac
10.61.83.253

Severus Tux

Sorry I was away

Does normal shell commands work inside awk ?

Serg

Yes, there is system() function , where you give it a string ( which is command)

But it only works with GNU awk

Severus Tux

sth like this ? set ff; echo $((0x$1))

Serg

2:08 AM

@SeverusTux I don't think that will work. System command calls /bin/sh , which is dash. Dash doesn't have $(( . . . )) syntax. That's bashism , I thnk

$ awk 'BEGIN{system("echo $0")}'
sh

What exactly do you want to do ?

Severus Tux

I was writing a script to create/connect to ad-hoc network, While creating, IP should be unique

So generating IP from Last 4 bytes of mac

Kaz Wolfe

er...

Serg

Ah, I see. Problem is that when you connect to that network, it won't necessarily work.

My home network , for example only allows ip addresses 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255

Severus Tux

Mac is unique. Generating this should work.

Kaz Wolfe

if it's DHCP hosting that network, it won't be an issue.

woah woah. Mac is NOT unique.

it's just really unlikely that there will be a collision.

24

Q: What happens when two computers on the same network have the same MAC address?

I was reading an article on WEP cracking, which said that filtering MAC addresses was not enough, since there are tools to change what the computer reports as its MAC address. This made me wonder what would happen if someone uses the same MAC address as another computer on the network? I've loo...

Severus Tux

2:12 AM

10.xxx -> Class A private IP, so its allowed. 192.168. also would do

Kaz Wolfe

well just because it's 10.0.0.0 doesn't mean it's all usable

Severus Tux

@KazWolfe mac is not unique ? I thought it is

Serg

@KazWolfe no he is trying to connect to multiple networks. He probably wants to have one IP on network with one MAC , and different IP on different network

Kaz Wolfe

I only have 10.12.112.0/24 on my network.

@SeverusTux mac is "unique enough" in the same way GUIDs are.

Serg

@SeverusTux it doesn't matter what class it is, subnetting depends on the subnet masｋ

Kaz Wolfe

2:14 AM

@Serg why the weird k lol

yeah, you can have a Class A but only use a Class C within it.

that's kinda why Class A exists lol

Serg

@KazWolfe I have two input methods that come into conflict sometimes

Kaz Wolfe

wait no, thats not what classes are.

Severus Tux

bye guys, I need to go to college . I will get back later :)

Kaz Wolfe

the point is, you can still have a /24 (10.1.2.XXX) inside a /8 (10.XXX.XXX.XXX)

networking is fun!

and then you have to get the different subnets to talk to each other. fun!!! :D

also, @networkadmins, feel free to use 17.0.0.0/8 on private networks. Nothing important there lol

Serg

OK , i think this should help , i've changed chinese/english switch to Ctrl

Kaz Wolfe

2:20 AM

or 30.0.0.0/8 or 11.0.0.0/8 or any DoD IP

because for some reason the DoD needs 20% of all IPv4 addreses for public routing. No wonder there's no IPv4 left

wait no, private routing. my mistake

edwinksl

interesting

Kaz Wolfe

note. 17.0.0.0/8 may cause the nutcases using mac to be sad.

but who cares about them? linux is better

or... if you want everyone to hate you, use 127.0.0.0/8 as your address space

Zacharee1

we may need to set a limit for how far we can go into WSL before it's OT askubuntu.com/questions/821486/…

Kaz Wolfe

2:36 AM

WHY DO I HAVE TO TAG EVERYTHING ;-;

Nathan Osman

I've got SSH access to my NAS which is running Debian 5.0... apparently.

Kaz Wolfe

@Braiam was right. We shouldn't let anyone tag.

Nathan Osman

Seeing as a mistake here could permanently brick the device... I am cautious.

Kaz Wolfe

er... wut

Nathan Osman

It's one of these: wdc.com/en/products/products2.aspx?id=1140.

It's connected via ethernet.

If I mess up the network settings, I have no way to fix it.

Kaz Wolfe

2:39 AM

hey, is respin ubuntu?

0

Q: 16.04 and OpenText Exceed TurboX - redraw issues

Exceed TurboX is a browser-based product for remote-desktop access by OpenText. One can run their tool directly within firefox (using java); or with their "native" client. But in any case; I hit "redraw" issues that render the product unusable. Meaning: I do see login in pages from my remote sy...

14.04 turbox

VTC as Not-Ubuntu?

Seth

how is it not ubuntu?

Kaz Wolfe

TurboX

also @Seth, should I retag as ubuntu-on-windows or wsl?

Serg

I'm starting to question my university's IT departments' sanity. The instructions on the site for setting up outlook for Android are both outdated AND wrong

We also have no service for checking schedule and hours worked outside of university's network.

Seth

@KazWolfe um, why? There's not evidence of that.

@KazWolfe "browser based"...

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth exactly

@Seth I mean for posts covering that topic. Is WSL or Ubuntu on Windows preferred?

Hatshepsut

2:47 AM

@oli is there a book you'd recommend for getting more advanced with the os?

Kaz Wolfe

not that one in particular.

Seth

@KazWolfe oh. hm. wasn't there a meta on that?

recently anyway?

Kaz Wolfe

i made it and got no answer

Seth

@KazWolfe so browser based on ubuntu?

I mean, it doesn't necessarily seem like something we can answer, but it's grey enough I'm willing to leave it.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth alrighty, fine. just didn't know if it's actually an ubuntu issue

i'm just using wsl for now until we get an answer because it's easier to type

you good with that?

Seth

2:48 AM

if you didn't know why are you closing it like you knew? ;p

@KazWolfe sure

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth i didn't cast any vote.

Seth

I know

Kaz Wolfe

that's why i asked

either way... lots of tag edits just got thrown

so... yay i guess?

@Seth what about re-tagging that to remote-desktop instead of turbox?

Seth

makes more sense

Kaz Wolfe

yay no new tags in 7 days

i just have a vendetta against tags lol

edwinksl

2:56 AM

my feed is all kaz

Kaz Wolfe

i do that

@Seth Comment migration: askubuntu.com/questions/814350/cuda-7-5-installation-problem/…

Thanks <3

Seth

wat

Kaz Wolfe

they wanted to post a comment but had no rep

Seth

... he can't comment so he posts an answer with a link to what appears to be his own full answer on gist?

Kaz Wolfe

I know mods can turn an answer into a comment.

Seth

3:01 AM

s/gist/github.io

yeah

Serg

@Seth what's github.io anyway ?

Seth

@Serg website hosting

Serg

I can haz websitez built ?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Tag Synonym Request: [respin] -> [remastersys]

We have a lot of remastersys questions. We have very few respin questions, but they sometimes pop up. As Respin is a fork (and is pretty similar to) of RemasterSys, it would make sense to have a synonym for the two, especially because the official site calls it a fork of the more widely-applicab...

discussion tag-synonyms

Kaz Wolfe

NUKING ZENBOOK FEELS SO GOOD :D

Seth

3:07 AM

@Serg huh?

@Serg more info: pages.github.com

Serg

yeah, i am already reading that

Kaz Wolfe

WOO

Serg

So basically , you create website repository on github and they host it

:D pretty cool

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

3:30 AM

@KazWolfe zenbook got bombed?!?

Serg

3:47 AM

Does anyone here know anything about health insurance in the US ?

chaskes

maybe. what's your questio?

Serg

chaskes

k

Serg

So, this is supposed to be popular . . . is this good ? is this crap ?

chaskes

well, it depends on what your options are. at least this has a low monthly rate, but you'll never meet the 5k deductible. in short, for normal dr things for a young person it's like not having insurance...unless something serious happens. but under the ACA, it may be the best you can do without a fulltime job.

but you're not likely to find one with a low deductible...unless the monthly rate goes way up in turn

Serg

3:56 AM

Makes sense . . . So college insurance would be better ? That one has no deductible and has "100% covered " on pretty much a lot of things

Premium for Fall 2016 , which is what I'm supposed to pay AFAIU is $ 1,153

<rage>sigh . . . We were talking about high school earlier. BLOODY THIS !!! This is what I should have learned in high school. Also, taxes </rage>

chaskes

probably yes. many colleges have stopped student insurance and pushed people onto ACA plans. but if it is available to you college plan is prolly better. that's $96/mo or do you have to pay up front? depends on what you can afford

Serg

I think it's up front, because they dump that price right into my tuition statement ( but I still have to pay it separately )

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