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edwinksl

11:03 AM

lol

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda not even I make walls of text that large in chat

Byte Commander

Jul 19 at 18:31, by Zacharee1

you're a living sitcom

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Zacharee1

yes

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda Can you run getfacl /path/to/file and show the ouput?

user136984

# file: DSCF2365.jpg
# owner: totoro
# group: totoro
user::rw-
group::rw-
other::r--

user136984

11:14 AM

@ByteCommander: ^^

Byte Commander

Hell, everything looks right over there!

I'm starting to wonder whether there's a computer problem at all.

Show a screenshot of that folder opened in Nautilus and an ls of that folder (both on the same pic).

I can't believe this.

user136984

About that... There are quite a few personal pics in there, if I can black out the images that will be fine though...

user136984

Just GIMP it...

user136984

I just need to finish writing to someone quickly... Then I'll do it.

user136984

Why do you need a screenshot anyway? Don't you believe me?

edwinksl

11:33 AM

it sounds rather unusual

Byte Commander

You can censor the thunbnails, but please leave at least enough of the file name so that we can compare which item in Nautilus belongs to which ls entry.

user136984

Ahh!!!!! They are there! They just appeared with a huge bunch of my other files! And now my other files are missing... This is not funny...

user136984

That gave me a real shock, there were much fewer files in there just 5 minutes ago...

Byte Commander

o.OOOOO????

Zacharee1

lol

@ParanoidPanda how many times have you hit F5?

Byte Commander

11:35 AM

> ___ <

user136984

@Zacharee1: None... I just kept restarting the file manager...

user136984

But this really is most strange... Isn't it?

Zacharee1

yes

reboot?

Byte Commander

better rebuy.

That machine seems haunted.

user136984

@Zacharee1: This started yesterday, I have rebooted many times since then...

Zacharee1

11:36 AM

hmm

edwinksl

this is bizarre

Byte Commander

Stab it with a wood stick and shoot it with silver bullets after waving some garlic around it. Then put it in a bonfire.

Zacharee1

what happens if you install another file manager?

@ByteCommander lol

edwinksl

i volunteer to provide said bonfire

Zacharee1

o_O

user136984

11:37 AM

@ByteCommander: I feel like I should file a bug report somewhere just to let someone know of the issue, which package do you think best? Or maybe I should just do it under the Ubuntu GNOME project on LaunchPad...

Byte Commander

I believe I have some spare garlic left...

user136984

@Zacharee1: I already tried Nemo, couldn't find it in there either.

Zacharee1

hmm

try a different DE?

Byte Commander

I'm out. This is getting too mysterious.

edwinksl

be brave, we are all here

Byte Commander

11:40 AM

:P

user136984

This is the strangest thing that's happened to me in a while... I'm starting to even question my own sanity... Seriously...

Byte Commander

...

user136984

I'm asking myself "Were they really there the whole time and you just didn't notice?"... But they can't of been... I checked!

user136984

Unless I'm seeing things or completely bananas, they weren't there...

Byte Commander

If there's something strange
in you neighborhood
Who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters!

If there's something weird
And it don't look good
Who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters!

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user136984

11:42 AM

Well, I'm glad they're back now, whatever happened, but I still think I should log this with someone, but with LaunchPad or my Psychiatrist? :P

edwinksl

ubuntu 2 spooky 4 me, i am switching to windoze

CodeX

damn my windoze got infected ..dont install whatsie for windows

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Questions regarding Kubuntu, Xubuntu and so on

I rarely see any questions regarding Kubuntu, Xubuntu and so on. Does it mean that these operating systems are also rarely used as compared to Ubuntu?

discussion

Zacharee1

12:07 PM

@ParanoidPanda do a SMART test on your hard drive

user136984

Yes, that's probably a good idea...

user136984

Also, do you know if there are any video editors pre-installed on Ubuntu that would allow me to shorten the length of a video?

Zacharee1

uh

no

user136984

Do you know of any I could install?

user136984

I remember using one, but now I don't remember the name...

Zacharee1

12:10 PM

nope

Byte Commander

duckduckgo is your friend

Zacharee1

Google is too :}

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda is.gd/ssY3PA

@Zacharee1 Google is hardly a friend...

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda avconv

hjmm

$ avconv
The program 'avconv' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt install libav-tools

NOT there by default. sorry

grooveplex

I'm really unsure about a title of a question I'm about to post

Zacharee1

12:17 PM

OT meta.askubuntu.com/questions/15846/…

grooveplex

Does "How to make invoking ruby without arguments open a REPL?" make much sense?

Zacharee1

sure

user136984

12:34 PM

Firefox 48 has now been released!

user136984

When do you think we will be able to upgrade to it?

edwinksl

there is a firefox ppa iirc

user136984

Ah! OpenShot is the video editor I am looking for I think!

user136984

@edwinksl: But only for Beta and the other stages, we have to wait for the Stable one to come from the repos, if I recall correctly.

edwinksl

how about snap for firefox? is there one yet?

Zacharee1

12:39 PM

I like how that Megadrol spam led to a dead link

grooveplex

Megadrol? LMAO (that would mean something like 'mega dump' in Dutch)

Zacharee1

and why are we getting to much Megadrol spam?

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda never :=)

Byte Commander

You actually click the links in spam posts? o.O

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander if they're advertising a product, it's probably not malware

user136984

12:40 PM

Or it could be both...

Byte Commander

Erm... Not necessarily.

(agreeing with what Panda said)

user136984

It getting me to a dead end would freak me out even more... I'd think a drive-by-download, because otherwise, what's the point?

user136984

People get ransomware from these sorts of things you know.

Zacharee1

what is it with people and not realizing "probably" means "not definitely, but likely"?

@ParanoidPanda stupid bots that haven't been turned off

user136984

Well, you might have been lucky this time, but I wouldn't test your luck any further, if you do it with too many of them you are bound to get something.

Zacharee1

12:45 PM

I don't do it a lot

user136984

Well, I wouldn't advise really ever doing it... I used to scan the spam links we got here with VirusTotal... Let's just say you wouldn't have wanted to go to any of them... Lots of JavaScript malware and all sorts...

Zacharee1

AdBlock :D

and I've never had a problem

it's weird

user136984

More like you haven't ever checked.

Zacharee1

I never get sick (besides headaches), and I never get viruses, no matter how many shady sites I go to

Anwar Shah

I didn't pass in review test with this askubuntu.com/questions/799492/…

I still think, it is less Ubuntu and more programming and as such Off-Topic

user136984

12:48 PM

@Zacharee1: Really? I could sort that out you know... >:P

Zacharee1

no thx

@AnwarShah it's been decided somewhere somehow that Bash programming is on-topic, since Bash is such an integral part of Ubuntu

it'd probably be better on unix.se, but it's OK here

Anwar Shah

They shouldn't be using that to catch reviewers though imo

grooveplex

I asked a new question :) askubuntu.com/questions/806564/…

Zacharee1

the system is automated

it just chooses stuff

grooveplex

and sometimes the system is wrong

Anwar Shah

12:52 PM

@grooveplex do you think it is on-topic here?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda only threats Malwarebytes found were some things I know about already

grooveplex

@AnwarShah yes, definitely

gansub

@AnwarShah good evening

in theory i can also use data recovery software on my seagate 2 TB disk right ?

Anwar Shah

@grooveplex i am feeling the opposite. sorry

@gansub good evening

brb

gansub

anybody used data recovery software on Seagate external hard disk?

grooveplex

1:03 PM

I hate misinformation askubuntu.com/questions/806496/…

Zacharee1

apt works on 14.04?

grooveplex

Yes

Zacharee1

it shouldn't o_O

it's a 16.04 thing

grooveplex

Why does everyone think that?

Zacharee1

because it was introduced in 16.04

user136984

1:08 PM

Firefox 48, please hurry up in coming to me!

grooveplex

Do all of you use Firefox?

no @ParanoidPanda

I use Chromium

I use Chrome

Hi there, can I ask someone's opinion on this edit? It doesn't look like an improvement to me, and I am tempted at rollbacking it: askubuntu.com/posts/804363/revisions

Zacharee1

1:18 PM

that's not a good edit

it removes content

grooveplex

and it makes no sense

@AndreaLazzarotto I recommend rollback

Zacharee1

KILL IT

user136984

Wow... My hair's getting really long... I wonder when I should stop growing it... I've got rather long arms, and it's nearly longer than them...

Zacharee1

there

rolled it back

25 Biggest Lies Told On The Internet That People Still Strangely Believe

►

> #16 I have read the terms and conditions

Andrea Lazzarotto

@Zacharee1 @grooveplex thank you :)

user136984

1:28 PM

Why does OpenShot always give me a core dump when I close it?

Andrea Lazzarotto

is it version 1.x or 2.x?

if it is version 1.x it's not a bug, it's intended behavior :D

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Can some approve or reject this?

Thank You! :)

:)

user136984

It's version 1.x... Version 2.x was the same for me though...

user136984

But it was really hard to use, it just didn't work at all as expected... All the buttons randomly didn't do what they did do half of the time...

user136984

But I think I finally got out of it what I wanted... I hope it just didn't destroy the video quality again...

Andrea Lazzarotto

1:34 PM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 already done

@ParanoidPanda I stopped using OpenShot after it became so fond of taking Kdenlive as inspiration that it started to crash every 60 seconds

in the meanwhile, Kdenlive developers removed all the crashing bits and now it is quite stable

basically, the situation in the past (OpenShot super stable, Kdenlive like Peter Griffin's palestinian alarm clock) was totally reversed

Zacharee1

Tablet, come faster

Andrea Lazzarotto

Kdenlive some years ago was like: youtube.com/watch?v=X7_0NoRHOEM Now, OpenShot took its place and Kdenlive works flawlessly :)

user136984

@AndreaLazzarotto: So what would you recommend then as good stable video editor? The most I need is to cut bits out and sometimes join two tracks together. Then it's important for me to have good export video quality. But apart from that I don't need much. OpenShot is a real resource hog and really no good so I would like to find something else...

user136984

So you recommend Kdenlive then?

user136984

Can that be installed from the repositories?

user136984

1:39 PM

Actually OpenShot 2.x worked much better, and actually had the features more or less working as intended, however it did crash a lot for no reason.

Andrea Lazzarotto

@ParanoidPanda yes I recommend Kdenlive from the repos

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Ubuntu 16.04.1: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

I just make a upload to Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04, but sometimes my PC appear this massege and My laptop break it. For I use again, I need to reboot for work. What is necessary for fix it?

ubuntu kernel

user136984

God this is taking ages and really slowing down my machine... I decided to be a good citizen and report the crash, but this dump is just huge... It's slowing down everything!

Andrea Lazzarotto

it takes at least triple time to get used to rather than OpenShot (OpenShot takes 2-5 minutes to be productive, Kdenlive 6-15 minutes) but once you understand, it's very easy and it has more features or the same feature are a bit easier (better snapping, more fine-grained parameters, etcetera)

user136984

Ok, well, my life is full of things that work for everybody else, and what I have is identical, but faulty in some way or hard to use... For no apparent reason... Actually I get worried if everything seems to be running smoothly because it means the problem I will encounter is still unknown... :D

user136984

1:43 PM

Seriously, nothing I have ever used has not given me some grief.

Anwar Shah

@ParanoidPanda Don't use anything :D

user136984

Like my machine for instance, I know somebody with the exact same model and everything, theirs works fine! Mine is completely bonkers! :D

Andrea Lazzarotto

The only way to win is not to play... was it something like that?

user136984

Well, I guess at least my cakes usually turn out fine... :D

user136984

I'm not sure what happened last time... I think a mixture of oversized cake tins and the wrong sugar probably was the combination which made it all flat and burnt... :D

user136984

1:46 PM

Now I'm sort of scared of doing any baking... But it's never happened before so hopefully it will be fine again this time too.

Andrea Lazzarotto

Maybe you used Microsoft Sugar or Outlook Baking Powder

user136984

Maybe... :D

Andrea Lazzarotto

:P

user136984

The health food shop I went to tried to convince me that I should buy their not raw cane sugar because there apparently is not such thing as raw cane sugar... Of course their version smells strange, is all stuck together, and is very expensive! Maybe that's what ruined my cake! All the other shops are willing to give me raw cane sugar! :D

user136984

So that's probably why it tasted funny. But I suspect the oversized baking trays were the main causes of the issues, otherwise I don't know.

user136984

1:50 PM

Because I found and used the wrong ones, the normal ones I use are smaller.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Permission denied running perl by Andre Carneiro on askubuntu.com …

Andrea Lazzarotto

Gosh, that seems more like a post on a dating site

@ParanoidPanda coincidentally i was talking about this with some friends a few days ago, they explained that most of the nice looking can sugar is just normal sugar that gets re-"covered" to look like can sugar

and the sticky one apparently is the real one

user136984

:D

user136984

2:05 PM

@AndreaLazzarotto: Interesting... Well, I think I will buy the sugar from the normal place this time, whichever of those it turns out to be, it works! :)

user136984

Oh dear... OpenShot completely destroyed the quality yet again... And I don't want to have to do any more work installing things and trying to get them working so I think I will just install Flash so that the YouTube video editor will work for me...

user136984

Well, install it temporarily and very restrictively anyway...

Ask Ubuntu Meta

2:23 PM

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Q: Edit rejected as conflicted with a subsequent edit

As a beginner I usually answer questions very rarely as I think my knowledge not sufficient yet. So I read questions and answers as much as I can and edit questions to correct spelling and formatting to make it easy to read. One of my recent edits rejected by the Community♦ and the reason was, ...

support editing suggested-edits

grooveplex

ugh askubuntu.com/a/806521/530811

Zacharee1

@grooveplex which was there first though?

user136984

@AndreaLazzarotto: Wow... kdenlive sure has a lot of dependencies... Hope it works as you said...

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda so does KDE :p

you're probably installing a lot of KDE's included packages as well

user136984

I guess that is probably it...

Zacharee1

2:30 PM

"we can't help you with EOL releases here" "but it's broken!" "yes, but we can't help you" "but it used to work!" askubuntu.com/questions/806603/…

so the tablet started in Florida

it got to a carrier facility

then it left....

to Kentucky

What o_O

I live in PA

what even is this route?

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 it's an underground waterway

Zacharee1

sigh

Rinzwind

it is blue. that should have been a dead giveaway

Zacharee1

:p

Oli

@Zacharee1 Did you leave the "Avoid North Carolina?" option checked?

Zacharee1

2:41 PM

This is what UPS thought was a good idea

Oli

Probably wasn't direct then.

Zacharee1

two day shipping

user136984

@AndreaLazzarotto: Ok... How exactly do you export the file to .MOV or anything apart from the native format?

Rinzwind

@Oli the month rep seems wrong askubuntu.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=month

3 days in and some are on 3k+ >:-D

who needs to be told about that? :X

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind you're just jealous that you don't know how to cheat the system and get 1k a day :p

Rinzwind

2:47 PM

naah I can keep up with 200 a day just fine ;)

Zacharee1

Spam seed or clueless meta.stackexchange.com/questions/281986/…

Byte Commander

@grooveplex That answer was there a minute earlier than mine, so you can't accuse him of plagiarism. If the downvote was yours, I'd like to ask you to rethink it.

Andrea Lazzarotto

@Zacharee1 check this out storyleak.com/…

Zacharee1

But that's VA not KY

Andrea Lazzarotto

and you might not be a TOR developer ;) In any case my point was: it happens

Zacharee1

2:54 PM

I guess

but this isn't that drastic a detour

probably just Amazon making sure it doesn't come in one day, since I didn't pay for that :p

Andrea Lazzarotto

I mean it happens in the USA, as long as your privacy laws can be always ignored by official agencies

anyway my link was not 100% serious, I was not stating you are being tracked by the NSA... take it as a joke :)

Zacharee1

where's my tinfoil hat?

Andrea Lazzarotto

not available on Ubuntu... but you can use UFW :D

@ParanoidPanda userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Project_Menu/Render I guess this is useful

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Maybe they're simply delivering some other stuff on their route as well? Or do you think they send a nearly empty car just with your little package on such a trip?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander ITS ALL FOR ME

but, yes, that's a good point

Byte Commander

3:07 PM

@Serg Found a bug in powerflowindy!

Or rather a misinterpretation of the upower output.

Andrea Lazzarotto

Conversely, who knows if Amazon uses a single van for all parcels? They might as well have other express couriers covering that area while @Zacharee1's parcel could be sent together with parcels directed to both Carolinas

Byte Commander

If the battery is fully charged to 100% but AC is still plugged in, it shows state: discharging

Zacharee1

@Serg you around?

@ByteCommander I think that's how charging works though

once the battery reaches 100%, it stops charging

redirects power to the rest of the computer

Byte Commander

That means however that powerflowy thinks the battery is discharging now and reads its energy-rate: value.

This has no meaning in this situation while AC is plugged in though and seems to just be an arbitrary constant.

Serg

@Zacharee1 and @ByteCommander moring

Zacharee1

3:11 PM

yes

@ByteCommander I guess

Byte Commander

@Serg You should probably parse the AC adapter's online value instead of the battery's state value.

Zacharee1

but the battery is still technically discharging

Byte Commander

Yeah, well, not really.

~$ upower --dump
Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_ADP1
  native-path:          ADP1
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Mi 03 Aug 2016 13:04:03 CEST (14551 seconds ago)
  has history:          no
  has statistics:       no
  line-power
    warning-level:       none
    online:              yes
    icon-name:          'ac-adapter-symbolic'

Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               SANYO
  model:                AL15A32

Serg

@ByteCommander works alright on my end , it's 100% and plugged in, show it's on ac

Byte Commander

Well, there's a difference between 100% and 100% as it seems...

Serg

3:13 PM

O_o

Byte Commander

However, I'm stunned why my battery capacity seems to have jumped above the design level again!?

Serg

$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1
  native-path:          BAT1
  vendor:               TOSHIBA
  model:                PABAS0241231
  serial:               0000000000000E6A
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              2016年08月03日 星期三 09时13分40秒 (40 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               fully-charged

Byte Commander

^ this is with AC plugged in

Power indicator also shows as not charging / not on AC though.

$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               SANYO
  model:                AL15A32
  serial:               41547
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Mi 03 Aug 2016 17:15:28 CEST (1 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               discharging
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              35,298 Wh

Serg

@ByteCommander I think this is more of a bug in upower daemon. You're plugged in, yet it says discharging

I can change the source code of my indicator of course, but i think you have a bigger problem there

@CodeX good morning, you're still around ?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Merge partitions between logical and extended partition

I'm not sure how to merge that unallocated 5GB space with the ext4 partition (sda5). Is there is a way (without formatting the ext4 filesystem)?

ubuntu gparted

Mateo

3:29 PM

Haha: omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/…

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If you dual boot be careful ^^

Serg

My SSD has been Windoze - free since I bought it

Zacharee1

o_O

@Serg wanna make a script?

Serg

@Zacharee1 for what ? Removing windows ?

Zacharee1

not exactly :p

CodeX

@Serg yes ..Morning .. how are you doing

Zacharee1

3:33 PM

it might already exist too, idk

but I have this folder full of plugins for my MC server

CodeX

bash not working so well in windows

Serg

@CodeX morning. Just a question , how do you slow down imwheel?

Zacharee1

I symlink to those plugins from my server directories to save disk space and have easier organization

CodeX

mpg123 doesn't work ... notify-send doesn't send notification to windows

Zacharee1

but I have a lot of servers and a lot of plugins which I'm not sure I'm using

CodeX

3:34 PM

by decreasing those values at the right end ..one sec

Zacharee1

@Serg would you be able to make something that compares the files in that Plugins folder to a bunch of other folders and then tells me which files in the Plugins folder aren't being linked to at all?

Serg

@Zacharee1 I think it's possible, yes , we could check something like if serverA/pluginA is symlink or not to

something else

Zacharee1

yeah

but it needs to check multiple locations to compare

Serg

ok, can we have an example ?

Zacharee1

Well I have a plugin called Farm Protect

it exists on all my normal servers, except, I think, my Multiverse server

So if the script checked the MV server, it would see that the plugin wasn't symlinked and recommend it for deletion

but

it's still on all the other servers

CodeX

3:39 PM

contains of .imwheelrc

".*"
None, Up, Button4, 4 < this is to decrease scrolling up speed
None, Down, Button5, 5 < this is to decrease scrolling down speed
Control_L, Up, Control_L|Button4
Control_L, Down, Control_L|Button5
Shift_L, Up, Shift_L|Button4
Shift_L, Down, Shift_L|Button5

Zacharee1

So the script would have to pick a file in the plugins folder, then check BungeeCord, Main, Minigames, Multiverse, Schematics, SkyWars, Survival, and Whatever (actual name)

Serg

@CodeX so smallest speed is 1 ? i tried negative vals, doesn't work

Zacharee1

to see if that file exists anywhere in those locations

CodeX

@Serg I guess so

Zacharee1

The locations are exactly the same, except for the name of the server, so it's always /home/Servers/SERVERNAME/public/plugins/PLUGINNAME.jar

Serg

3:40 PM

@Zacharee1 ok, let me sketch up something , brb

Zacharee1

kk

Serg

@Zacharee1 what's the plugins folder is called ? That one is for server, right ?

CodeX

there is also -k switch which should kill previous imwheel process as per document .. not sure if it works

Zacharee1

@Serg yeah. The plugins folder is /home/Servers/PLUGINS/

and the server names I put above aren't all the folder names

Anwar Shah

The problem has been resolved. askubuntu.com/a/806518/61218 needs 3 more close votes

CodeX

3:45 PM

it is asking for reason for closing

Zacharee1

went away on its own

Anwar Shah

the problem went away.

CodeX

okay

the options I see are these ..

duplicate of...
This question has been asked before and already has an answer.
off-topic because...
This question does not appear to be about Ubuntu within the scope defined in the help center.
unclear what you're asking
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question.
too broad
There are either too many possible answers, or good answers would be too long for this format. Please a…

nothing that fits

Zacharee1

Off-Topic is a menu

you need to select it

Anwar Shah

^ This

CodeX

3:48 PM

oh so maybe my points are not enough for that

Zacharee1

click it

just click it

Serg

for plugin in /home/Servers/PLUGINS/*  ;
do
    plugin_name=$( basename "$plugin" )

    for server in /home/Servers/* ;
    do

         plugin_dir=$( printf "%s/public/plugins" "$server"  )

         if [ -L  "$plugin_dir"/"$plugin_name" ];
         then
              echo "$plugin_dir"/"$plugin_name" is a symplink
         else
              echo "$plugin_dir"/"$plugin_name" not a symlink
         fi
    done
done

@Zacharee1

CodeX

xD I don't know what to click

Zacharee1

Click the Off-Topic choice

Byte Commander

@Serg Filed a bug report, let's see if anybody will care about it... :) bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1609469

Zacharee1

3:50 PM

@Serg lemme try

Anwar Shah

he might not have enough rep point to vote to close a question