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7:01 PM
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Q: What to do when i cant find mon0?

Rajat Guptaroot@ubuntu:~# airodump-ng mon0 Interface mon0: ioctl(SIOCGIFINDEX) failed: No such device

 
Argh.
Apple rejected the update due to the minimum OS X version set.
 
talk to Tim
 
user136984
@NathanOsman: Ah, you are on, don't know if you got my previous ping but I opened that guy's hate mail, can I forward it to you so that you can check for malware as you suggested originally? :)
 
I thought mails are written in plain text ..html
 
user136984
There can be JS in them too and malicious images etc.
 
7:13 PM
by default gmail doesnt download images
 
user136984
@NathanOsman: If for whatever reason you've changed your mind please do let me know. So that I will see what I can do myself. :)
 
user136984
@CodeX: Well, I needed to check what they were so I looked at them in my VM, also I can't tell Gmail to no longer show them and I chose to show them a long time ago when the guy and I had a better relationship.
 
@ParanoidPanda any particular reason for not going for block option ?
 
user136984
Collection of evidence, so that if it continues I can go to the police with them. Though if it gets too bad I will block him.
 
@ParanoidPanda feel free to send them. Maybe stick "panda" in the subject line so I can find them.
 
user136984
7:18 PM
@Nathan: Right, will do!
 
7:29 PM
@Seth just switch to T-Mobile and get the Axon 7 :p. Do you have the Edge plan on VZ or the 2 year contract one?
@ParanoidPanda what's he done now?
@CodeX season?
 
@Zacharee1 2
 
@Zacharee1 TracFone, actually :p
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: Nothing more, I'm just going to send Nathan the hate mail for analysis.
 
user136984
@Seth: As a mod can you move an answer from one question to another and then delete the old question?
 
user136984
Because I may be in need of such an ability soon...
 
7:41 PM
@ParanoidPanda he can merge
@Seth ew
So no contract. Just get T-Mobile then and try it out. You have a 20 day trial with them
If it doesn't work, return the phone and cancel the plan
That way, you can get a G5 and just pay it off over 2 years
 
@ParanoidPanda sorta
@Zacharee1 eh, no one can beat $7 a month.
 
Hello everyone
 
Question: so if the make that ships with Ubuntu has default CC=cc, why isn't cc linked to gcc?
 
user136984
@Seth: Can you please merge these two questions: 1 and 2. So that 1 gets the answer posted on 2 and 2 disappears.
 
Is that a debian question?
 
user136984
7:49 PM
I got desperate and posted the second, but then someone answered the first one in reply to the second! :D
 
done
 
I'll bet it's a debian question.
 
user136984
@Seth: Thanks! It looks kind of strange to have the second one still accessible, is there any chance of getting it deleted too or is that not possible? :)
 
I'm going to leave it to prevent confusion. Otherwise there's little trace and everything looks even weirder.
It will get cleaned up automatically in about the time it will take everyone to forget about it.
 
user136984
Ah, ok! :D
 
user136984
7:52 PM
Right, now onto the emails I've got to forward to Nathan, that is my next priority (just thinking aloud)...
 
watches you forward them to the government by accident
(jk)
 
user136984
@ThomasWard: Well, I might at some point forward them to the police, so you're not that far off. ;)
 
gchq probably already knows what is in it ;)
 
@ThomasWard stop removing
And name change!
 
8:00 PM
:p
 
only a slight change :P
full name now.
 
I didn't notice at first :p
@Seth Is this Verizon? (They have Trac plans?)
 
@Zacharee1 TracFone is a verizon MVNO
 
Oh. I thought it was GSM O_o
 
How long have you guys been on the ubuntu forums?
 
8:04 PM
@Zacharee1 They are also an AT&T MVNO ;)
@Zacharee1 I get more than that.
 
Ah
@ArneN. 0 days
@Seth huh. How do they manage to provide that?
 
@Zacharee1 Yeh sure :p
 
@Zacharee1 because they're a major carrier.
 
@Seth TracFone?
 
yeah
 
8:07 PM
@ArneN. what? I never use them. AskUbuntu is way better since I can actually read the answer right there
@Seth but they're using the two most expensive carriers to operate under
 
Well that's what i meant :p
 
shrug
 
It doesn't add up
@Seth do you get data?
 
@ArneN. we don't need to be on the Ubuntu Forums
many of us on Ask Ubuntu never went to or visited the forums
 
@Zacharee1 yeah, but not much.
I hardly use it tho so it just builds up and then when I do need to I have it.
 
8:12 PM
What do you get? How many minutes, texts, data?
 
You buy it in 90 day increments. 180 minutes, 180 texts, 180MB of data for $19.99. I tend to use a fair amount of text messages so occasionally I pay another $5 for 1,000 texts and that keeps me good for a while.
 
Wow
 
It doesn't scale for anything beyond low-medium usage though.
 
That's cheap
 
Since I am like super low usage it works out well.
@Zacharee1 yeah
 
8:15 PM
It's weird that the T-Mobile prepaid doesn't include data
 
Data is only $10 a GB too.
If I ever needed a lot for some reason.
 
T-Mobile has $10 for 1GB for a week which seems expensive
 
As long as you have service TracFone just rolls over. And over.
and over..
 
No 12 month limit?
 
@Zacharee1 nope.
 
8:20 PM
Yes, Verizon, but it's you
@Seth seems pretty good if you don't need very much.
 
@Zacharee1 well there's a reason I use it ;p
 
OK, Verizon. Why do you all of a sudden have rollover data, but we weren't offered it?
Seriously, these new prices are great. Why don't we get them?
 
8:33 PM
Ah, because it's actually more expensive (16GB shared and only $3 more)
But T-Mobile is cheaper with unlimited data, rollover, free streaming with a 6GB LTE plan, better coverage here, faster LTE and better customer service.
 
user136984
8:48 PM
@Nathan: Ok, I have forwarded them all to you, though I had a slight error with the first one so I sent it to you twice (the latest one without Panda in the title is the full one). Though I think that perhaps the images did not get through properly so I sent you another email with them linked with the subject line of "Panda Hate Mail Images". (Also the Totoros at the end are my standard endings for emails.)
 
user136984
Because of Gmail being stupid, I was not able to alter the subject lines of any but the first and not full one, though I think from this image you will be able to find the correct emails (as it contains the subject lines).
 
user136984
 
user136984
If you have any issues with not full content of the emails or anything like that please let me know and let me know if you would just like me to send you the headers. :)
 
@ParanoidPanda did you ask him to stop sending these emails?
Because if you did, that's harassment
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: While he was sending them he actually entered this chat room, I pinged him to stop, so did several other people.
 
8:54 PM
I guess if you can provide those chat logs, it'll count?
And did you just give us his name? :P
 
user136984
That was the first name he used on this site when he targeted me so it's no secret.
 
what is going on @ParanoidPanda?
that guy is filling up your mail with garbage?
 
@ParanoidPanda did he stop sending them after you asked?
 
user136984
@IanC: Not any more, that's just what he sent me on the day he got unsuspended and then resuspended.
 
lol
 
user136984
8:57 PM
@Zacharee1: No... He sent me the first email, then I pinged him, so he sent me two more emails, several other people pinged him, and then he sent me the rest...
 
you DDoSed him?
 
@IanC chat ping lol
@ParanoidPanda so that's harassment. How old is he?
 
what is the chat ping?
 
@IanC this
 
oooh
 
8:59 PM
So he has a Steam and DeviantArt
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: He's probably about 14 or 15 now.
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: He is also part of some sort of anti-Duck group on Steam and spammed LaunchPad with roboduck stuff.
 
Hmm.
I don't know if he could be brought up on harassment charges then :p
Wait, how old are you?
 
i would apply hanlon's razor here
 
@ParanoidPanda oh o_O. I thought you were a lot older for some reason...
Welp
Then I would say talk to your parent(s) about this
 
user136984
9:05 PM
So far the oldest anyone has thought I was was 26. :D
 
user136984
Do you beat that record?
 
I was thinking at least 37
 
user136984
Ok, you definitely beat that record then! :D
 
But this explains a lot :p
Lol
 
user136984
Though those brain age games always used to think I was 80... :D
 
9:06 PM
Does Henry have a brother named Sidney?
And that's all the stalking I'll do for now :p
@ParanoidPanda those things are very accurate. You must just be 80 and not know it.
2
 
@Zacharee1 be careful to not doxx someone
 
user136984
:D
 
@ParanoidPanda huh. The internet reveals a lot, but not that
At least in 15 minutes 🙄
@edwinksl it's gonna be you now
Muarharhar
 
up to you but i would suggest you not to share it here
 
9:09 PM
I don't want a year ban, so I'll keep it to myself :p
You won't even know I know
/s/s/s/s
I found Panda
In geometry, a torus (plural tori) is a surface of revolution generated by revolving a circle in three-dimensional space about an axis coplanar with the circle. If the axis of revolution does not touch the circle, the surface has a ring shape and is called a torus of revolution. Real-world examples of toroidal objects include inner tubes, swim rings, and the surface of a ring doughnut or bagel. A torus should not be confused with a solid torus, which is formed by rotating a disk, rather than a circle, around an axis. A solid torus is a torus plus the volume inside the torus. Real-world approximations...
 
dafuq XD
 
His old name was Toroidal, which is the adjective form of Torus.
 
ok
i see the pun
 
It's easy to find me lol
 
9:12 PM
@ParanoidPanda step 2 of reporting the user: waiting
 
@Cyber_Star weren't you just Arne or something?
 
Yeh i changed my name to what i used on everything
 
@Zacharee1 is that a threat?
 
@edwinksl you'll never know :}
Disclaimer: /s
@Cyber_Star smart :p
 
i want to make sure
because i don't take threats lightly
 
9:15 PM
You take them darkly?
 
@Zacharee1 Yeh :) Cyber_star is like my internet name on everything :p
 
Mine is always either Zacharee or Zacharee1
Can you guess my name?
 
Zack
 
@Zacharee1 Eerahcaz ?
 
Totally
 
user136984
9:16 PM
Oh dear, I have the feeling that instead of this guy calming down over the next year suspension, he's just going to get more and more angry and show it even more so when he comes back... That's seems to be the way of him... But at least I get a years break every time! :D
 
user136984
Though I'm really going to start hating the 19th of July... :P
 
@ParanoidPanda TALK. TO. YOUR. PARENTS
@ParanoidPanda it's like a holiday :p
 
Thahaha
 
But more in the sense of Krampus and not Santa
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: I will get them to contact his parents, but probably tomorrow, it's getting a bit late now...
 
9:18 PM
Yeah
 
@ParanoidPanda if there is malice involved, it is probably a criminal act. otherwise you will just have to talk to him physically and figure a way forward. he's probably getting a kick out of your paranoia by the way.
 
Just do something
@edwinksl neither is 18 so I don't know if it's counted as criminal :/
 
it can be criminal but juveniles do get different sentences from non-juveniles
 
@ParanoidPanda He's probably sending you that things because he's butthurt about how cool you really are.
 
well back in time we had other ways of dealing with nuisances :)
 
9:20 PM
Wealth is evening the score
 
user136984
@Zacharee1: Well, I think at my age in this country I could get charged with something criminal, but I don't think he could...
 
@edwinksl I just don't think it's gone past the point of cyberbullying. If they were over 18, it'd be different.
 
just call the b.a.n.h.a.m.m.e.r
 
@Zacharee1 that's for panda to decide
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD of life?
 
9:21 PM
yes
 
@edwinksl yeah
 
ugh, I did not sleep well last night
I'm just gonna cha......zzzz......
 
user136984
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD: Honestly, reading his emails made me think he was just mad and delusional (if he really believes in what he said), it's like he's talking to someone else in his own world but is just sending me the emails... It's all a bit weird (well, more than a bit).
 
@ParanoidPanda I agree...zzz...
 
@ParanoidPanda what is going on
 
user136984
@arda: Oh, just some nut attacking me here and sending me hate mail...
 
@ParanoidPanda if you have to discuss the actual contents, i would suggest not doing it here
 
is someone trying to contact you through off-stackexchange platforms for threat?
 
cough cough I really need to sleep..
 
Please stop.
 
9:24 PM
no seriously I only got 5 hours of sleep
11:30-8
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD 4 hour 36 minutes here
 
oh
well
 
If you keep discussing this here, I'll have to modflag for doxxing or harrasment.
 
time to drink some P energy drink
 
Please use askubuntu.com/contact and continue this discussion with community moderators.
 
9:25 PM
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD if you need to sleep, then sleep. We don't need a status update every five seconds
 
sorry.
 
user136984
@arda What do you mean?
 
user136984
And what exactly is "doxxing"?
 
anyways
in this question :
 
Doxing (from dox, abbreviation of documents), or doxxing, is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting personally identifiable information about an individual. The methods employed to acquire this information include searching publicly available databases and social media websites (like Facebook), hacking, and social engineering. It is closely related to internet vigilantism and hacktivism. Doxing may be carried out for various reasons, including to aid law enforcement, business analysis, extortion, coercion, harassment, online shaming, and vigilante justice. == Etymology == ...
 
9:26 PM
woops wrong thing
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Q: some corrupty graphics in 14.04 LTS

ƎpᴉʇʎXDI got 14.04 LTS (because Xenial WHY NO AMD?!?) and it worked flawlessly (process going fine and stuff) and when I boot it.... some stripes of glitcheyness happens and then normal boot.. If anyone can tell me some suggestions or answers, that will be appreciated. (I'm using ATI graphics BTW) Bu...

 
@ParanoidPanda he might be threatening you, but you can't post his name etc in this chatroom.
 
user136984
@arda: I haven't released anything personal about him which he hasn't already released here.
 
I havent got answers
 
@arda and neither flag would be appropriate tho, but you're eligible to your opinion.
 
@arda his username used to be his name
 
9:27 PM
So I can't get into ubuntu, fearing that Ubuntu will fry my GPU
 
all we do is showing support for panda
 
I already got a Gpu Lockup once
 
@Zacharee1 he changed it = he doesn't want that name to be used anymore.
 
@ParanoidPanda i would say posting email subjects is cutting it close, don't do that
 
Lets respect his decisions, shall we?
@edwinksl I pretty much meant that
 
9:29 PM
remember we are not law enforcement and also that everything said here is logged
 
@edwinksl isn't it your right to share your emails though?
 
user136984
@arda: His name is still in the transcript. Plus if someone is attacking me so much here and then comes in here watching me and starts sending me horrible hate mail, I see no problem in posting it here. Plus the mods which were in here at the time did not seem to mind.
 
@Zacharee1 i have no idea how far that right goes; i would like a reference if possible
 
@ParanoidPanda I had that happen earlier last month.
 
9:30 PM
I'll look it up
 
Best steps to take is contacting both community moderators using contact form and reporting him to gmail for harrasment
 
user136984
I think it is my right to share my emails, there's nothing preventing me from doing that.
 
I never had a e-mail threat
Guess I'm a good pencil
 
user136984
Once it's sent to me it's my stuff unless it's copyrighted.
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD You're a new pencil
 
9:31 PM
(unless all that bans and kicks, jeez!)
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Gimme your email and you can have one lol kidding
 
just kidding, dont mind me
 
I'm scared.
 
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Q: Is it legal to publish email that someone sent to me?

Michal StefanowI'm not asking whether it is ethical - that would be a totally different question. I'm asking whether it is legal? In my book - in my way how I interpret consensual reality - once I press SEND button it is transmitted via email client, via email server, via internet, to a destination email serv...

 
9:31 PM
would be a waste of time on my side :) life is to short for such crap
 
Second answer seems to indicate that what Panda did should be fine.
 
i'm scared.
D:
 
understandable
 
@Zacharee1 i am not sure if order of answers is same for all users. which one are you talking about?
 
> Generally speaking, if a person sends you an email you can publish it. Like if they call you a bunch of nasty names, or threaten you in some way, that information is yours and you can publish it.
 
9:33 PM
>:D
 
@edwinksl the one with that text in it at the beginning.
 
Time to watch Pencil Busters
 
@Zacharee1 in germany the sender would have to agree into the publishing to make it stand in front of court
 
user136984
Unless they have one of those company things at the bottom telling you you can't do it, it should be fine, and anyway, I'm not sure if those things really have any legal binding anyway.
 
even if the data is in your domain, he has his personal rights on the mail as well
 
9:34 PM
@Videonauth not for wherever that answer is applicable.
If the harassment is generally known (which I think it is), the emails are shareable
 
user136984
Anyway, I think I've done nothing wrong. I wish people would just stop having a go at me over this. I'm not feeling great receiving all this hate mail you know and stuff here, I don't need people then coming here and telling me I'm doing bad things.
 
If I understand his correctly
 
OMG my youtube recommended is filled and filled with Pokemon GO !
 
>
Subscriber represents, warrants and agrees that it will not contribute any Subscriber Content that (a) infringes, violates or otherwise interferes with any copyright or trademark of another party, (b) reveals any trade secret, unless Subscriber owns the trade secret or has the owner’s permission to post it, (c) infringes any intellectual property right of another or the privacy or publicity rights of another, (d) is libelous, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harassing, hateful, offensive or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, (e) contains a virus, trojan horse, worm,
 
It's annoying :p
 
9:35 PM
IKR!
i'm so happy Pokemon GO is going to be DDOS'ed!
 
user136984
@arda: "Subscriber"?
 
GO POODLECORP!
 
@ParanoidPanda Stack Exchange TOS
 
@arda I don't think anything was violated. It that Gmail?
 
user136984
Ah...
 
9:36 PM
I'm not hating on the game but what is accually fun about it you just swipe over your screen every 5 min and for the rest you can't do shit
 
@Cyber_Star I think you actually play the normal game too.
 
user136984
I don't think I have broken any of that...
 
Shut you catch and battle them IRL
 
@Cyber_Star Woah! Profanity!
 
@Zacharee1 " the privacy or publicity rights of another," or "is libelous, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harassing, hateful, offensive" may be considered broken.
Why risk it? chat people can not help you, go to where you can get help: Contact form, google, your lawyer
 
9:38 PM
the dude knows you in real life? I mean, are you worried about those threats?
 
@arda but the subscriber isn't considered hateful here. The subscriber is sharing the indication of hateful emails towards him
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Fight me XD
 
And I don't think it violates the privacy, since his name is online and you can see it by going back a year in transcript.
 
@Zacharee1 does he go by that name anymore? no? then don't post it.
 
user136984
@arda: He used to and it's still in the chat history for god sake.
 
user136984
9:40 PM
It can be so easily found here, he used it and still connects to it.
 
@Cyber_Star Never!
 
@Zacharee1 yes, another subscriber is doing hateful stuff to paranoid panda, but paranoid is the one who is posting them here
 
user136984
And everyone can see that he used to go by that name.
 
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD <3 XD
 
user136984
I just think this is excessive.
 
9:41 PM
:P
 
@ParanoidPanda it isn't helping you.
 
user136984
Fine, bug off all you.
 
@arda But he did, and it isn't hard to find. meta.stackexchange.com/q/53323/293727
 
@ParanoidPanda look mate, I'm trying to help you
 
@arda to be fair, you are a somewhat random Arqader who joined the room and voiced what (to me) looks like opinion as (what looks to me like) fact.
But that's my opinion, and I'm no mod
We should just be glad Oil isn't here, or we'd all be banned :p
 
9:45 PM
 
What
 
had that happen, and mods' recommendation was to stop communicating and report to github and /contact
@Zacharee1 some guy spams arqade after getting banned, I comment telling him to stop, he ends up spamming my github repos.
What happened after I took these steps? His github account got permanently banned.
 
Ah
The problem is I don't think you can give someone under 18 a restraining order.
 
what I'm saying is posting random stuff even when you are the victim is potentially risking ban of both of you.
 
Did you get banned too or something?
 
9:49 PM
No, because I didn't post his details randomly, even though I knew his name and stuff
 
I don't see how that suggests what Panda is doing is wrong though
You're saying because you didn't do it and didn't get a ban, doing it will result in a ban, which doesn't follow logically
Unless I'm missing something.
 
@Zacharee1 he is posting his personal information online.
Including his mails.
 
I thought that post I linked suggested he was in the right
 
I guess people of askubuntu are going to sleep :p no activity in 25min :p
 
What I'm saying is that he might have the right to but trying to get help from chat will not be helpful.
Stop discussing here and go to contact form and google. /leaves room
 
9:54 PM
@arda one more thing. He was showing that to @NathanOsman (who is a mod, but that's beside the point) because he was seeking help outside chat. We just decided to get involved.
 
@Zacharee1 He already left
 
He can still get the pings
As long as he's been in the room recently
 
thing is going into rooms randomly and telling people to ban wolfboyft BEFORE his ban is lifted is not cool either, cc @ƎpᴉʇʎXD
 
What
 
9:57 PM
yawn Who woke me up ?!?
 
in The Bridge, Jul 18 at 20:35, by ƎpᴉʇʎXD
wolfboyft returns 22 hours from here. dont leave to see the juicy details.
 
We already had a convo about this I think
 

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