Ask Ubuntu General Room

Nathan Osman

7:04 PM

Totally forgot - today is OnePlus 3 day.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman no more styleswap covers

Seth

Marques Brownlee already released a review xD

Zacharee1

whoa

that shouldn't be in caps

6GB RAM, OLED screen

still 1080p though

Hey, it has CDMA!

No SD Card? It's out

@ByteCommander how's this for color?

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 What color?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander bright color

Refresh the page

Byte Commander

7:19 PM

OHA!

That's... er....

Interesting.

Zacharee1

lol

Byte Commander

At first sight it remembered me of an insect's head.

user136984

Oh dear, that question on what to do about serial voting is a hard one...

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda ?

user136984

@Zacharee1: In the questionnaire for the candidates on Meta.

user136984

7:22 PM

Question 8 I think it is.

Zacharee1

oh

Seth

It's not as hard as you think.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to harden SU with dpkg-statoverride?

I am reading an Ubuntu 14 hardening guide and this is one of the suggestions: It generally seems like a sensible idea to make sure that only users in the sudo group are able to run the su command in order to act as (or become) root: dpkg-statoverride --update --add root sudo 4750 /bin/su ...

Byte Commander

@Seth Do you think it would look bad if I answer question #1 - #7 and leave #8 - #10 untouched for now and edit the post later/tomorrow to complete them? Or shall I better not post anything until it's complete?

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne you're going to be getting some emails from PufferPanel. I'm adding you as a sub-user of my servers so you can control them without deleting them.

Bharadwaj Raju

7:28 PM

@ParanoidPanda Did you see? Someone hacked your webcam: i.imgur.com/NgkC0Jq.gif

Byte Commander

I'm losing my motivation to write another page on that this evening... :-/

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne so sorry about the spam

Seth

@ByteCommander no that should be fine

Bharadwaj Raju

@Zacharee1 Changed your colors again?

Seth

@Zacharee1 no you're not

Zacharee1

7:33 PM

@Seth wrong reply?

@BharadwajRaju And again

Thomas W.

@Zacharee1 nope.

Seth

nope, but I guess this chat is all joked out for the day.

Thomas got it.

Zacharee1

what

My brain is not working today

Thomas W.

:P

user136984

@Seth Well, though I think I need to edit it a bit, I was writing an answer to that question which would be rather harsh, though I think fitting for the example crime given. But then I read the answer given by another candidate which was the complete opposite of what I said, and the complete opposite of what everyone else said, and now I'm just needing to weight up the two, but it's left me a little unsure.

Zacharee1

7:35 PM

@Seth ohhhhhhh

user136984

I think I'm still going to go with what I originally thought, but just reading the other answer really added a completely new perspective on the whole thing...

Byte Commander

I can't read properly today... :P

chaskes

@Seth What's with the blue circle marking a room flag? I've seen it twice today but never before.

Zacharee1

huh?

Seth

you've just gotten lucky.

chaskes

7:43 PM

is it a random thing then or a rep thing?

Seth

10k chat rep

Byte Commander

@chaskes Probably because you just reached 10k network reputation. That makes them visible to you.

Seth

oh yeah, or that.

chaskes

Oohhh, 10k net. That makes sense, cause I'm still just under 10k on AU.

Nathan Osman

What on earth do people need microSD card slots for on a phone with 64 GB of internal storage?

It baffles me.

chaskes

7:45 PM

All of my ebooks

Nathan Osman

60 GB of ebooks???

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman if you root and do custom stuff, it's a great place for all your ROMs and file storage that won't get wiped

Nathan Osman

MultiROM takes care of that.

Zacharee1

??

chaskes

@NathanOsman No, just a josh. I've only got about 8gb of ebooks

user136984

7:47 PM

Is anyone else having a problem with the snapd refresh service failing to launch of startup?

Zacharee1

I don't mean installed ROMs, I mean the flashable ZIPs

Nathan Osman

Lol, that did seem a bit high.

user136984

Just rubbed chocolate into my eyes and now they're hurting and itching...

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 that's what I mean too.

chaskes

but I did have to put a 32gb sd in my kobo to hold them

Zacharee1

7:48 PM

@NathanOsman I have about 20GB worth, since I triple boot and am trying out multiple versions of multiple ROMs

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda some bleach will fix that... though it may create another problem.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Strange things happen when I close my laptop lid

I recently bought a new laptop: HP Spectre x360 And I installed Linux for the first time: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64 bit I have noticed a few small bugs but something very strange happens when I shut the laptop lid. The last time I closed it for example, when I re-opened: The screen resolution ha...

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Zacharee1

SD Cards are also faster than USB 2.0

Nathan Osman

But not internal storage.

user136984

@Nathan: Yeah, I think that's a bad idea... :D

Nathan Osman

7:49 PM

I can get 30 MB/s over wireless AC so there's that.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman now how am I going to transfer stuff straight to my internal storage from my computer?

Serg

@ByteCommander do you know how to use if statement in python with -c flag ? What i mean is python -c “if A : print ‘B’”

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman SD cards are up to 90

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda Is there any place on you or in your house that has not been contaminated with chocolate cake yet? :P

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander the trashcan

Nathan Osman

7:50 PM

@Zacharee1 nobody is going to miss 90 if they're getting 30 unless you're transferring >10 GB.

Byte Commander

@Serg $ python3 -c 'if 2+2==4: print("Phew.")'

Nathan Osman

Which is not often.

Byte Commander

Works.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman well I'm limited to N here, and it's never optimal speed, and at my school, wireless ADB transfer is about 100KB/s

Nathan Osman

With encryption enabled, I doubt you'll get 90 MB/s read anyway.

Byte Commander

7:51 PM

You can not use "else" in a single line though @Serg

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I don't use encryption though ;p

Serg

adminx@L455D:~$ python3 -c "import os; if os.stat('/etc/passwd'): print('YEs')"
  File "<string>", line 1
    import os; if os.stat('/etc/passwd'): print('YEs')
                ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Zacharee1

@Serg I see a semi-colon. Does python have semi-colons?

Serg

@Zacharee1 it ignores them

Zacharee1

ah

Byte Commander

7:52 PM

@Serg Yes, you can not place a block-opening statement after any other statement on the same line.

Serg

It's alright, i'll stick with interactive shell

That was for my answer here askubuntu.com/a/787046/295286

Videonauth

@Serg then you want to change those lines too

(stat /etc/passwd1 &>/dev/null && echo YES)||echo no

chaskes

@Seth So do these flags come from all chat rooms? It's kind of hard to judge them without the context.

Serg

@Videonauth that's correct , OP said "no need to give functionality if file is not exist." ^_^

so that's why i only included YES part

Byte Commander

@Serg The Python one is a bad example.

Serg

7:59 PM

@ByteCommander how so ?

Byte Commander

Interactive shell.

It's not nice.

Serg

Should I turn it into a script ?

Zacharee1

why does this get 4 votes? I spent like 30 seconds on it ;P

@TheBrownOne would you mind if I linked to your website from x-p-w.tk?

Serg

@Zacharee1 because life is unfair and answers that you spend hours on are rarely interesting to people these days , since ain't nobody got time for reading and learning

Videonauth

They are the usual yahoo answers quality of poeple nowadays ;)

Byte Commander

8:03 PM

@Serg python -c 'from os.path import exists; print "Yes" if exists("/etc/fstab") else ""'

Nooo! ;___;

@Tim caught up with me, now we're both on 151.

This becomes depressing.

Videonauth

@ByteCommander well what shall i say then ?

Byte Commander

Huh? I have to do a captcha to post my (at least 7/10 answered) questionnaire?

hates captchas

Videonauth

woot captchas ?

i never had one yet

Byte Commander

And obviously some people are not getting their time zones right.

Videonauth

who ?

Byte Commander

8:08 PM

Central Europe is on UTC+1 guys!

user136984

@ByteCommander No.

user136984

:P

Videonauth

actually germany is UTC +0200

Byte Commander

The +2 is only due to daylight saving time.

timeanddate.com/time/zone/germany/berlin

Serg

@ByteCommander

adminx@L455D:~$ python -c 'from os.path import exists; print "Yes" if exists("/etc/fstab") else ""'
Yes
adminx@L455D:~$ python -c 'from os.path import exists; print "Yes" if exists('/etc/fstab') else ""'
  File "<string>", line 1
    from os.path import exists; print "Yes" if exists(/etc/fstab) else ""
                                                      ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Single quotes is what seems to be the issue

Byte Commander

8:11 PM

The Netherlands are also in the Central European Time zone i.e. UTC+1 @JacobVlijm

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander yeah, but currently +2 right?

Zacharee1

@Serg harsh

Byte Commander

@Serg Yes. If you use single quotes around the command, Bash takes them as argument separators and removes them.

Serg

@ByteCommander how about you add that solution ? I

Byte Commander

Use single quotes to enclose the whole script and double quotes inside the script.

Nah. Python is not the tool of choice here, I think.

There are better ways.

@JacobVlijm Yes, because of the annoying Daylight Saving time.

Zacharee1

8:13 PM

yay DST

Jacob Vlijm

...I love it!

Byte Commander

So now you're in the CEST zone.

Jacob Vlijm

Ah, I thought what is it that I feel...

....But it' s the CEST zone :)

Zacharee1

At least it isn't like DST in Arizona. The Native American reservations don't observe it, while Arizona does, so driving through the desert has your internet clocks changing every 10 miles

Byte Commander

(Central European Summer Time - never confuse "in CEST" with "incest" though!)

Zacharee1

8:14 PM

@ByteCommander that's a @Serg joke

Jacob Vlijm

Haha, ok

Zacharee1

@JacobVlijm I think that's normal relations between non-familial humans

@JacobVlijm your edit really confused me for a second

Finally!

Jacob Vlijm

@Zacharee1 what is above you, should be below

Zacharee1

@JacobVlijm exactly, Mr. 2nd place

Serg

@Zacharee1 you seem to be changing colors rapidly . Are you sure you're not turning into a chamelion ?

Zacharee1

8:16 PM

@Serg turning?

:p

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 You're changing your Gravatar faster than your underwear, aren't you?

Jacob Vlijm

No clue where it ends.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander I don't think most people change their underwear every 10 minutes, so yes

Serg

@JacobVlijm it never ends, it's a Neverending Story

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda you need 5 points in the tag

Byte Commander

8:17 PM

You need 5 upvotes on answers with those tags.

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg right, but there is a lot of targeted voting going on there :)

Zacharee1

@Serg ahhhhhhhhhh, Neverending Stor-rryyyyy

Byte Commander

Ask a Mod or propose on Meta instead.

Videonauth

@JacobVlijm I heard that al who have over 200 votest in the primaries will be disqualified automaticlly ;)

Zacharee1

@JacobVlijm that's the whole point of elections, isn't it?

Serg

8:18 PM

Zacharee1

@Serg referral denied

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Did you choke while rolling that R?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander it's a song, and I put syllables in

Serg

@Zacharee1 sudo !!

Byte Commander

Aha.

Zacharee1

8:19 PM

@Serg sudo apt-get purge SERGIY

Jacob Vlijm

Haha, I heard 700 is the minimal score needed

Zacharee1

for what?

Serg

@Zacharee1 package SERGIY was held back

Zacharee1

@Serg so it isn't installed?

Jacob Vlijm

...next round.

Byte Commander

8:20 PM

@Zacharee1 Free ride to the north-pole.

Zacharee1

You have no brain? @Serg

Byte Commander

One-way, of course.

Zacharee1

I have no idea what @JacobVlijm is talking about

@ByteCommander you, I'm just ignoring

Serg

@Zacharee1 I have enough brain to rm -rf /home/Zacharee1

Byte Commander

Me? Why that?

Zacharee1

8:21 PM

@Serg not without sudo, you're not

@ByteCommander you're purposely not making sense

Byte Commander

Did I become like Serg now?

Serg

plot twist , i am root

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander yes

Serg

@ByteCommander nah, just slightly

Byte Commander

Aha.

Zacharee1

8:21 PM

@Serg oh yeah, well I have an invulnerability flag set.

Serg

it takes a long way to become Chinese-speaking-Ukrainian-living-in-the-US

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 In Soviet Russia, sense makes you!

3

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander no it doesn't :p

Byte Commander

@Serg Am I getting better?

Serg

@ByteCommander now you're getting closer :) +1

Byte Commander

8:22 PM

;-)

Zacharee1

lol

Serg

Leveling Out Lazily

Zacharee1

@Videonauth you're 8th :/. But you'll still get in if you keep going like this :D

Serg

Loosing One's License

Byte Commander

I would be in the right mood for a game of Cards against Humanity now. Anyone else?

Serg

8:23 PM

o/ I'm in

Zacharee1

sure

Serg

Give me 10 mins to get setup tho

Byte Commander

@Serg Leaking Odorous Liquids

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander o_OO_oo_OO_oo_OO_o

Serg

Licking Ominous Lizards

Videonauth

8:25 PM

@Zacharee1 yes i think ill make it into the finals but i guess then theres the point reached where I'm counted out

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 You don't have to think about what I think you're thinking! Dirty minded, twelve-eyed alien...

Zacharee1

@Videonauth we'll see what happens

@ByteCommander well now I am...

geez

Serg

^_^ I like you more and more @ByteCommander

Zacharee1

oh no

They're becoming one!

Serg

<.< you shed join us @Zacharee1 itz fun

Zacharee1

8:26 PM

nu pls

user136984

What on earth are you guys talking about? :D

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda no idea

user136984

As far as I can see from the conversation, you are all turning into alien lizards and Serg is liking you... Am I close? :P

user136984

Probably not, I only read a small amount... :D

Zacharee1

lololololololol

Serg

8:28 PM

Close enough

Zacharee1

I'm acting like I'm 10, but @Serg's gotta be 5

Serg

Didn't i tell you that i have multiple personalities ?

Zacharee1

@Serg do you actually have multiple personality disorder?

Serg

One is 5, the other is 25

No

Zacharee1

kk good

Serg

8:31 PM

I do have some form of mental issues probably, but I've never checked

Byte Commander

Game Link for Cards against Humanity is this and password is the name of this chat room.

Zacharee1

everyone does @Serg

no one is average

@ByteCommander Ask Ubuntu General Room?

Byte Commander

Yep.

What else...

Zacharee1

Spaces?

Byte Commander

As it is. Of course.

Zacharee1

8:32 PM

spaces

Byte Commander

Just copy that name.

Zacharee1

@Serg join

Serg

Im smoking, wait a bit

Or start without me

Byte Commander

@Serg Those 10 minutes are over. Ready to join?

:p

Zacharee1

We can't start without you

2 player games don't work very well

Byte Commander

8:34 PM

It would be an easy choice for the Czar, at least.

Zacharee1

for what I hope are obvious reasons

Serg

Use your multiple tor nodes

Zacharee1

lol

Maybe we could get @ParanoidPanda or @Videonauth?

Byte Commander

I fear @Videonauth might get a heart attack from that kind of humour...

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander you're both German

you shouldn't get humor at all >:D

Serg

8:36 PM

not all Germans are cynical and offensive like we are

Zacharee1

@Serg "we" as in former-USSR?

Serg

We as in Me, @ByteCommander , and @Zacharee1

Zacharee1

hwell then

Byte Commander

Who says that Germans have no sense of humour?

@Serg Start smoking so that we can play!

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander modern comedy

We just don't want the competition, so we kick Germany out ;p

Serg

8:38 PM

@ByteCommander I am already smoking form the amount of spaces in that password

Zacharee1

@Serg xD

Byte Commander

Duh! >.<

Just copy that title!

Hmm... 18% battery left. I should look for a cable.

Serg

are you kidding me . . . I just joined !

@ByteCommander there , i found cable for you

Videonauth

"Meet Achmed the Dead Terrorist" | Jeff Dunham: Spark of Insanity

►

Byte Commander

@Videonauth Hah, that one is great!

Videonauth

8:46 PM

i love this one

Serg

WANTED: another person to play Cards Against Humanity

Byte Commander

It's an emergency.

Serg

Apply: via link above posted by Bytecommander

Byte Commander

15 mins ago, by Byte Commander

Game Link for Cards against Humanity is this and password is the name of this chat room.

Serg

Ask Ubuntu General Room

Byte Commander

8:47 PM

Password includes all the spaces and capitalization, just copy and paste.

Nathan Osman

Hmmm... the OnePlus 3 may not be compatible with my network...

Serg

I see great interest in our advertisement there

Byte Commander

Good opportunity to search for a cable again.

Problem is that it has to be long enough to reach from the power socket to a spot in my room where the WiFi signal is strong enough.

Serg

@ParanoidPanda doeth though have time , oh noble fluffy creature ?

user136984

@Serg: Too paranoid to go to the site. :P

Byte Commander

8:50 PM

Nah, come on.

Nathan Osman

Fluffy? Furry, maybe...

Serg

I'm not into anime . . . ( referencing furries )

Byte Commander

And sometimes a fury.

Not all animes contain fur.

Serg

well . . . maybe i should go for another smoke

will take enough time for 3rd player to show up

edwinksl

@Serg you smoking a joint? what a colorado thing to do ;)

Serg

8:57 PM

@edwinksl nah, i am a traditionalist . . .

although i am not happy with the US cigarettes, chinese are much better

edwinksl

that was what i heard, but i don't smoke, so i can't really verify

Serg

well, can you verify our game of cards against humanity ?

edwinksl

lol i don't have time now to play it ;)

Byte Commander

le sigh.

Serg

@ByteCommander +1

Byte Commander

9:01 PM

feels lonely

Serg

should i post another image of cable ?

Byte Commander

No, I found it.

I even found a socket.

Serg

we found everything, even Waldo, and yet we can't find a 3rd player

Byte Commander

Now the transformer part is hanging in the air in front of my wardrobe, but at least it provides power.

Serg

Well , I'll go sign up for the training courses in the meantime , keep me pinged

user136984

9:08 PM

@Serg: Did you get any further by the way with my CLI PDF viewer question? :)

Serg

@ParanoidPanda I basically abandoned it because i had other priorities , but if you want I can resume working on it.

I'll have plently of time this summer , i hope

user136984

If you have the time to, that would be nice. :)

Serg

@ParanoidPanda about your Etherape question : netstat shows the connections

you can run it periodically with watch command , if you want to see updated output

There's also nethogs

user136984

Do they both only display the information in tables?

Serg

yes

nethogs is prettier tho

Byte Commander

9:22 PM

@Serg I think our game got killed.

I can't get to it any more.

edwinksl

rip game :(

Byte Commander

Yep.

Serg

@ByteCommander i got somewhere . . .

edwinksl

probably my fault :(

Serg

pyx-1.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=94

Byte Commander

9:23 PM

I think we should try it again tomorrow...

Serg

game # 94

Byte Commander

Hmmm. I used the same URL but could not get in. Now it works. Strange.

Yet we miss a 3rd player.

user139252

@Zacharee1 That's fine. I didn't get any emails.

Serg

em . . .i don't see you there

i guess it's a new game

Byte Commander

Hey @TheBrownOne, do you want to save us from death through boredom and join a quick game of CaH?

user139252

9:25 PM

Password?

Serg

yaaaay !!! ( that's not the password )

Ask Ubuntu General Room ( this is thepassword ）

@ByteCommander link ?

user139252

I already joined :P

user139252

Done with homework until September!

Byte Commander

@Serg Same link, #94

user139252

Now my daughter is waking up from her nap.

user139252

9:27 PM

Sorry.

user139252

Definitely tomorrow, though D=

Byte Commander

;____;

The world is not fair today.

Serg

@SQuirel do you have time ?

Byte Commander

I'm starting to think that asking @SmokeDetector to join our game has the highest chance of success. :-/

Squirrel just left the room.

Serg

@SmokeDetecto would you like to join cards against humanity game ?

( removed r, ofcourse , don't wanna be yelled at by mods )

Nathan Osman

9:31 PM

I am really confused about whether the OnePlus 3 will work on my network or not. And nobody is reaching out on Twitter. Don't they want a customer?

Byte Commander

That is irrelevant. 1) Nobody cares if you ping Smokey 2) The first 3 letters are already enough to ping somebody @Ser

Serg

O.o oh . . . well i done goofed

edwinksl

@Se test

@Ser test

Serg

last one did the trick

@edw hi

edwinksl

works

wow neat

thanks @byt for tip

Byte Commander

9:35 PM

The secrets of Stack Exchange...

Serg

And the only person who doesn't care about none of it is Oli . . .his name is already 3 letters long . . .

Byte Commander

Now think of how great this is if your name is e.g. Oli and there are people called Oliver, Olivia, Olive, Olio, whatver in the same room...

Serg

yeah . . .pinging might become difficult

Byte Commander

I left the CaH game, giving up for today.

Serg

better luck next time i suppose . . .

Byte Commander

9:40 PM

I go to bed and fall asleep boredly.

Night all!

Serg

sleep well , bro !

Shog9

← 1 message moved from 2016 Ask Ubuntu Moderator Election

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne OK good

@Serg @edwinksl also, if you ping three or more letters that match more than one person, it either pings all matching users or the one who chatted most recently

@TheBrownOne so can I add a link to your site from mine so it looks more populated? :p

Serg

@Zac well that simplifies a lot of things

edwinksl

@Zac cool tip

Zacharee1

9:53 PM

you two are going to be doing this forever now, aren't you?

edwinksl

@Zacha you bet

Zacharee1

great

tysm @ByteCommander

Serg

Funny thing: SUSE has internship position in China , Beijing 。 I could sorta qualify up to 75% probably , but im just currious if they want a local intern or they can fly me there

edwinksl

@Serg how easy is it to get a work visa?

Serg

Required Skills:
* Major in IT or relevant specialty. ( I'm EE major )
* Programming skills in script languages (e.g. perl, python, shell). ( I think i am decent at bash , n00b in python but can learn )
* Knowledge of C or other programming languages. ( C and Java , baby )
* Good knowledge of Unix and Linux operating systems. ( Uh . . . is 23k rep a good indicator of my knowledge ? )
* Fluent in verbal and written English. ( Um . . .Yo puedo hablar unpoco ? )
* Eager to learn new stuff. ( Sure !!! )

@edwinksl em . . .no clue . . .

Tim

9:57 PM

I would say that no, reputation is not a good representation of knowledge,

Serg

Optional requirements:
* Open Source Community engagement is a plus. ( I am enganged to open source, about to be married )
* A good understanding of open source software is a plus. ( which one of the softwares ? )
* Experience with SUSE product is a plus. ( had OpenSuse once , does that count ? )
* Experience with debugging of systems and applications is an excellent plus. (haven't that)
* A popular personal github repo address is an excellent plus. ( have that )

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